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Race-based superiority still a reality

2012-07-04 15:35

Johannesburg - Some people still feel superior to others on the grounds of race, Home Affairs Minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma said on Wednesday.

Dlamini-Zuma told delegates at government’s two-day social cohesion summit in Kliptown that “there can’t be social cohesion if some people still feel superior to other people”.

The minister said further: “There cannot be social cohesion if we do not come together as we have done in the past and talk.

"But from the way we talk and act it is clear that most of the people that should accept being Africans – and in this phase they are entitled to be here, but race still plays a crucial role – some people still feel superior because they belong to a certain race.”

Without mentioning the name of FF Plus chief whip Corne Mulder, who earlier asked for a ministry for minorities to be established, amid jeers by delegates, Dlamini-Zuma said minorities should integrate with majorities.

“I find it a problem when the minority wants to be apart from the majority. The minority must integrate with all of us and not be treated separately or differently.”

Comments
  • jody.beggs - 2012-07-04 15:40

    What is she talking about BEE and AA ? Damn the man.

      henrileriche - 2012-07-04 15:47

      Must be the reason. To be superior or racist, you have power to make racist laws like AA and BEE. ...and so the ANC keeps race alive, because without it they are nothing.

      grootrot.vanzyl - 2012-07-04 15:54

      I think it is also a case that some people should not feel inferior to others. Then Ministah, I call myself AFrican, but then black people say I am not. Am I who is according to our constitution a citizen of South Africa, an African?

      Revelgen - 2012-07-04 15:55

      Dlamini-Zuma - may I just say that in today's world, one's status is determined by RESULTS and ACHIEVEMENTS. If you work hard, achieve well and rise up in one's calling/job/profession, you are well regarded. If you sit on your backside and expect everything to be handed to you on a plate, well then, you hardly earn respect, do you? Same applies if you steal, lie and always blame other people or circumstances for your situation, you can hardly expect to be well-regarded, can you? Go figure it out; that's how it works. Fact.

      downwiththeANC - 2012-07-04 16:04

      here we go again...it is the white mans fault...oh shame. What do you want us to do? Just another lame excuse to blame everything on us whites. The country is in such a mess because of ANC's %^*-up and who else to blame but the white man, the oppressor, the imperialist. Apartheid is stuck in your heads. In a hundred years time it will still be the white mans fault. ooohhhh, the white man.

      Vicker - 2012-07-04 16:05

      So in other words, she is admitting that it is easier to pull the successful down, than build the unsuccessful up......

      JaredVN - 2012-07-04 16:05

      AA and BEE are, in effect, an acknowledgement of superiority. After all, if all people were really equal, why would a huge majority need the handicap offered to them by racist practices such as AA to protect them against a minority? If they weren't, in fact, inferior, such a handicap would not be necessary at all.

      Nicholas - 2012-07-04 16:18

      @peter.ndamase - judging by your language I would suggest that you carry a deep seated inferiority complex. Maybe that is the problem as opposed to whites "feeling superior" Yet another red herring thrown into the mix by the minister to detract attention away from the real catastrophic problems facing this country caused by ANC misrule.

      downwiththeANC - 2012-07-04 16:21

      I really am not a proud South African ( or African ) anymore. The future looks bleak as the ANC government tries to squeeze every drop of blood, not just from white people, but from blacks, coloureds and indians. This country has falled into a state of moral decay where the only law is the law of the jungle. Government can't afford to protect the citizen's of this country anymore. Crime is like a wild fire, rapes and murders every day, corruption and fraud is the norm. Hundreds of inefficient government officials that get suspended and still receive a huge pay ...not that they did much work anyways. I want a better SA than this.

      kevin.day.7370 - 2012-07-04 16:38

      Peter Ndamase, 'stinking white superiority'? That's a racist comment in itself. It's about time that those of our country who insist on using race as an excuse for underperformance are left to carry on wandering around mumbling the same old excuse. If the ANC can't carry out it's electoral promises 18 years after coming into power, they are clearly inferior and this has nothing to do with colour. It has to do with performance of their delegated duties to our Country. Get over blaming this giant sham as the legacy of apartheid - start doing something about getting the job done and stop complaining.

      rob.baggaley - 2012-07-04 16:42

      Look, lets face it. She IS referring to Whites, Indians & possibly Coloureds feeling superior to Blacks. Why on earth would we feel superior, I mean, after years of black rule, one is able to see that most blacks are enlightened, educated people, capable of great thought & vision. Has the ANC & its followers not proven this to be so ? Superior. No, no way !

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 16:42

      Dead right I feel superior - how else do you expect me to feel in the face of rampant ANC corruption and mismanagement. Nothing to do with race but everything to do with intellect .........

      Richard - 2012-07-04 16:45

      Alicia, all black people have to do is read the drivel from you on various threads daily to realise that superiority based on race is a ridiculous idea... ditto to Jacobus, who can't spell or form a sentence...

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-07-04 17:04

      They open their mouths and put both feet in it every time. Superior yes. Based on race - no. Based on education, achievement, honesty, integrity, endurance, creating employment, bringing wealth to the country, paying taxes, working for everything and every penny I have with no free hand outs not even from my parents ............. yes, I am superior.

      clivegoss - 2012-07-04 17:05

      Jody it is the minister that has feelings of whatever. She has never been clear on anything. Maybe she must take a Ponado/Disprin and feel superior. Who gives what she thinks. It doesn't work any which way

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-07-04 17:07

      So much for Zuma's effort on national unity. This gadget destroys what he was saying in one sentence.

      leaproach.thekeeper - 2012-07-04 17:09

      Please Twala!....Let's start with Gordhan. He thinks it was OK for Zuma and his clan to have R2 billion's worth of planes. Idiotic!......For the rest...let's not even bother

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-04 17:16

      leproach, Gordham is not the only person that constitutes the ruling party. Come up with a better excuse to cover everyone

      emile.vanrayner.7 - 2012-07-04 18:41

      im speaking in generalizations so if this does not apply to you then stfu. black people still claim to be "oppressed" whenever they are not entitled to, or otherwise denied something by a white person. white people ARE in fact being oppressed, not by black people specifically, more by the various institutions we now have in place (BEE, employment equity, affirmative action etc) these things are not even really needed in our country if you think about it. way back when they first started looking at ways to integrate sa fully the one thing that came up was the lack of education for black south africans... why are we not just getting educated? im a colored person, we dont get much attention from the govt but you wont hear us complain about it. we work, its not that hard to do. if we were given the chance to learn we would. if govt wants to "Fix" this country they need to educate its people

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-07-04 19:31

      Let somebody please tell me is it intelligence that our government cannot provide simple pipe-borne water for the people? Our public school system has virtually collapsed. Is that a sign of intelligence? Our roads are impassable. In spite of the numerous sources that nature has made available to us to tap for energy to run our industries and homes, we have no steady supply of electricity. Yet electricity is the bedrock of industrialisation. All these failures are a result of poor leadership. Why must it be African countries who must always suffer poor leadership? Is that not a manifestation of unintelligence? If our political leaders are the reason for our country's backwardness, we should resolve to get the kind of leaders who will be instrument for our rapid progress. I may not know how intelligence is measured but my limited knowledge of intelligence is that it can also be measured by the kind of leaders a people decide to have.

      jmlongwe - 2012-07-04 20:58

      All you poor people, mineons, the working class, you fight after each other like cat and dog. The rich, black and white, rejoice in their plunder and laugh at you talking as if you call the shots. You are all slaves of the rich, you are the real sheeple. So go on, and i know you will, because your broader vision is clouded. Wake up in the morning tomorrow again and work for your rich masters, the guys who actually rule the world.

      jmlongwe - 2012-07-04 21:35

      Dont think you are more superior than others behind your desktop. We are a society that has produced idiots, incompetetent fools black and white. I used to work in a call centre while in varsity and boy did i hear stupid people. If you ever called a call centre for technical assistance, probability is that you are an idiot. Probability in that there are some exceptions of those that actually needed help after trying it out themselves. Maths is an important subject at school, it gives you analytical thinking skills, if you dropped Maths in school, probability is that you an idiot. Point is some people commenting here are the same that call into these places and cant even reboot a computer themselves and act as if they are superior on the outside world. I say superiority is determined by your intelligence, and idiots are nothing close to it.

      eduardhomes - 2012-07-05 06:19

      people are dieing of hiv/aids, cancer, crime and SA is still about race...how childish....

      Rob.Trianglem - 2012-07-05 07:24

      Practice what you preach and invite a couple of squatters to your mansuon for the weekend.

      martin.britchford.5 - 2012-07-05 10:12

      i am nothing but myself, if you feel inferior, go to hell, your feelings are not my problem and i will not nurse your little booboo's, insecurities and short falls, you have the same education as i do, the same opportunities if not more in this day and age, so if you cant cut it, move aside for those who can, their are lots of africans that i work with, older than i who are phemomenal highly ranked engineers and business folks, they are cutting it, they can joke openly about race, they give as good as they get, and they grew up in soweto, cry me a river, grow up or p1ss off

      Vicker - 2012-07-05 16:02

      Superior is as superior does, which leads one to conclude that inferior is as inferior does...

      phuti.hlabane - 2012-07-05 18:20

      She is correct most whites think they clever or intelligent because they r which,this is witnessed by the comment on this very news24 forum.i only hear troll,stupid & other words without addressing the subject @ hand,for me tht is stupid.it is high time tht whites shud just accept a fact tht SA shall Neva Eva b ruled by a white person even if that person is a memba of ANC.

      liana.loots - 2012-07-05 20:15

      Race based superiority...of course, they call themselves BLACK DIAMONDS. how pathetic

      boeretroos.redakteur - 2012-07-05 22:46

      Just bring me my machine gun ou gabba. Volkstaat.

      merven.halo - 2012-07-06 07:37

      @phuti.hlabane - with your spelling,how can anyone take you seriously?

      merven.halo - 2012-07-06 07:45

      Let's look at the facts: A successful farm is given to blacks fully equipped. A year later noting is left, just barren ground, all the stock slaugthered, even the farm house is demolished. A peace of jungle is given to white farmers in the Congo, three months later it is successful farms. Superior? You decide.

      simon.davies.12382 - 2012-07-06 10:34

      @ALICIA: You talk about "NOT WORKING". Do you think it is ok to be on news24 the whole day when you are meant to be productive at whatever work place. I heard about you at the Discovery soccer park after a game with some colleagues and they meantioned your name as one of the trolls on news24. Its been a week and surely i have not been disappointed. It does not help that none of the things you say actually add value, very destuctive to say the least

      mark.richardson.3914207 - 2012-07-06 14:16

      BEE , AA and all the 20 staff you have working in your state sponsored home Mrs Zuma no: 5 . or soon to be relegated to 6 if rumours are true. Wonder how you treat your estate staff ???? You should be directing these comments at the new middle / upper thieving emerging credit scamming class that has emerged from the woods . and if i sound superior well tough , i have worked/ studied hard for what i have and achieved not expected it and without any chips on my shoulder. try not asking for freebees all the time and you will see how differant the world really is.

      Keith - 2012-07-06 14:46

      Democracy is not about majority rule but minority rights, and as the rights of minorities in this country are being violated, we are just another racist dictatorship. So nothing has changed, only the color of the racists.

      jaba.kov - 2012-07-06 15:30

      Thomas Jefferson said “Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not”. The number of people now getting free stuff in SA outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves!

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-07-06 16:50

      Well Zuma it would help if you didn't insult your race with your intelligence...

  • Michael - 2012-07-04 15:41

    bla bla bla.

      john.halfpenny.395 - 2012-07-04 17:08

      Race superiority is a reality? duh. I consider myself better than all Blacks and most of the whites in South Africa. Well It's actually a fact, but since you asked for my opinion... Oh wait you didn't... Consider this freedom of expression then. Thanks for reading

      mark.schulz.796 - 2012-07-04 17:09

      You can't punish people for feelings, you moronic woman. I am free to feel however I want - it only becomes a problem when feelings become actions that hurt other people. For example, I feel like toppling your stupid, corrupt, inefficient, racist ANC government, but you can't do anything to me until I try... until you can prove that I have tried. Back to the USSR with you, socialist hag! Next you will be punishing people for not feeling enough grief when Mandela dies... that reminds me of another place....

      john.halfpenny.395 - 2012-07-04 17:11

      Let me rephrase. I'm better than most Blacks and Whites in this country, because most of them are morons. Whites only give comments from fellow whites a thumbs up and the same goes for Blacks commenting on this site. In all honesty I AM THE ONE surrounded by idiots. I would suggest an article written about me. It's me against a country filled with morons. Thanks chaps

      wesleywt - 2012-07-04 17:20

      @John +10000 likes from me.

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 17:48

      Halfpence, Does you non de plume imply half a brain as well as half a life?

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-07-04 20:15

      The ANC is so filled with hatred that they see love of ones own as hatred towards others. To them, if you love your own, you must hate others. To keep the ANC in power, they have to fuel the hatred of blacks towards whites, but this policy is already backfiring on them. In the eternal struggle between Good and Evil, Love and Hate… Love is the stronger emotion and will always win. Love of ones own also means that one should be willing to protect one’s own…even if it leads to death and self sacrifice. Love, Self-love is the strongest personal emotion. It is therefore no surprise that the Communist wants us to hate ourselves.

  • leaproach.thekeeper - 2012-07-04 15:46

    Aaaaaarrrgggghh........get your front teeth fixed. You earn more than enough.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-07-04 16:35

      Bwaahahahahaahaha

      pisciotta - 2012-07-05 00:20

      LOL in America she would be called a "Double Nickle" A place to keep your Toll Change.

      henrileriche - 2012-07-06 12:12

      I am confident and maybe even snobbish. My guess is if you got a low self-esteem you would read that is "superiority". Get a life lady and the gym will do you good too...Helps with self-esteem....

  • Ian - 2012-07-04 15:46

    Dlamini-Zuma said minorities should integrate with majorities. Thanks but no thanks, blonde, blue eyed babes are more my type, cheers

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-07-04 16:52

      More women for the rest of us :P

      Nicolaas - 2012-07-05 09:20

      @POLIODONKEY, What, your blow up doll not good enough anymore? Rather stick to plastic babes, because that is nthe closest you will ever get to the opposite sex and I am 100% sure that no right thinking woman will let you degrade her family with your stupid gene pool!

      Vicker - 2012-07-05 15:58

      @nicolaas - you forget that poloyamonki has a whole goat and donkey harem behind his shack....

      nav.chan.5 - 2012-07-06 15:27

      Interesting that inbreeding and delusions of grandeur are still on the market. I mean really ... you're a tragic joke! And please don't mistake your willingness to subscribe to whinging and whining as being "superior".

  • mikenortje - 2012-07-04 15:47

    and so what if they don't want to intergrate or think they superior, as long as they obey the law and pay their taxes who gives a dam. Also she said "treated separately or differently" - WOW!!! what is AA and BEEE - is that not treating one race differently and seperately - the hypocrasy.

      Michael - 2012-07-04 17:13

      spot on Mick - Here's a bit of superior reality - an employer is paying off a less than stellar employee. The employee rages that he is being given the boot because he is black. "Absolutely not" says the employer, "I hired you because you're black, I'm firing you because you're crap!"

  • Tony-Lapson - 2012-07-04 15:47

    For someone in her position to be generalizing and labeling. Does this statement motivate kindness and co-operation, or hatred and division?

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-04 16:37

      this is so true. i thought about when i read the article. some things are better left unsaid by the people in prominent positions. especially if they are not bringing anything to change it.

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-07-04 16:55

      Fully agree Tony. Creating an enemy is a political tactic. Nobody will read this and feel motivated to unite. Blame and offense will result

  • Sharon - 2012-07-04 15:48

    i have tried,really tried,but i can not go backwards in my life.rather educate the majority and with this i mean the voting fodder,lets bring them up in the world then perhaps we can sit down and talk and understand each other - hell have you ever tried to have a conversation with someone who is comatose

  • anita.grant.526 - 2012-07-04 15:48

    How are you going to change this? More BEE? JUst realize that whites can be good allies to have. Some blacks lack common sense and you can't blame whites for that.

  • Atomicduzt - 2012-07-04 15:48

    Its not about race, it is just about stupidity.

      fascisti.liberata - 2012-07-04 17:16

      @wesley. I know 3 families who have settled well in canada. Thus, your point is invalid and is nothing more than the whining of a dumb liberal

      ryan.a.smith.3958 - 2012-07-04 17:57

      wesley you're a muppet. slave labour ? I think your brain is stuck in a time warp.

      marcel.pretorius.56 - 2012-07-04 19:19

      @wesleywt I know of more than 200 000+ familys that have emigrated since democracy kicked in, you my good sir can suck on that!

      fascisti.liberata - 2012-07-04 19:29

      Yes, but little wesley, you specifically mentioned canada. So, I win :)

  • rory.audie - 2012-07-04 15:55

    In other countries they call it class. Here we call it race. Haters gonna hate, but it's nice being white

  • richard.zanner - 2012-07-04 15:55

    I assume she is referring to the whites feeling superior. In the first instance I can only wonder how the hell she knows what the majority of the people think. Secondly, with BEE and AA in place, what more is required from the whites to help people achieve in the economy short of doing it ourselves and then giving away the money.

  • Heinrich - 2012-07-04 15:55

    Stop worrying about social cohesion. All will become more equal in the future with better and cheaper education for all. In what ways are minorities treated differently? Your statements needs more facts and less racism!

  • Eye's Cue - 2012-07-04 15:55

    Oh really? What about when we all lined up in our thousands, the minority, to vote for a free and fair democracy for all and boy, have we paid for it ever since. Just look at the crime, the corruption, the dishonesty, the lies and affirmative action! Have we been included? No!!! We have been reminded every minute of every day that we are white and were ALL responsible for apartheid, even if we had nothing to do with it and our mothers chained themselves to the Union Buildings and marched with the Black Sash to put an end to it all . We can't win, in spite of the fact that the rest of Africa is in trouble too and they didn't have apartheid, is beside the point, any excuse to blame others will always be the order of the day in South Africa. How sad, when we could have had the greatest Country in the World, it is tatters all around us!!!

      Eye's Cue - 2012-07-04 16:36

      @henriLerich. Excuse me for mentioning it BUT I never once said that there were not a lot of bright black people! Mrs Dalmini-Zuma has said that we should be intergrating with the majority, read the article you dumb f***! And I am stating the fact that it's not possible the way it's all turned out, contrary to what we ALL expected, for blacks and whites, anf coloureds and Indians, whatever.................!

      ThinkingChick - 2012-07-04 17:07

      Actually an interesting point. The rest of Africa didn't have apartheid and not one country has been a shining example of marvelousness.

      henrileriche - 2012-07-04 17:14

      @Eye's Cue - I wasn't talking to you. Did you see the guy below you what he said?? Then read my reply which was aimed at him! Then think again who you call a dumb f** is. Geez. Did you have bantu education too that you can't read?? This is a very good example. Though I agree with what you say (Eye's Cue) one of the biggest part of the problem in South Africa is most people cannot effing read, then just assume something, and attack people for no reason. You get it why it's kind of embarrassing??

      ilse.liebenberg - 2012-07-05 12:00

      Nope the rest of Africa blames it on colonialism, but despite the fact that the colonials have been gone for many many years, they have still not got it together. Still poor, still have governments that exploit them and the country's resources, enriching themselves and eventually civil war to try and get rid of the dictator in charge! Pretty much the story of Africa! Terribly sad, for such a beautiful continent, with actually so much to offer!

  • sidney.gilroy - 2012-07-04 15:59

    If it wasn`t for your Black skin...Mrs. Zuma....you would have NEVER reached that place of power from which you preach now. Stop calling the kettle black. Your time is running out ANC...tik tok tik tok.

      jeffrey.jones.357 - 2012-07-04 16:32

      @azande.futi, "those" criteria, not "that" criteria. So you are admitting that those are the only criteria to be a cabinet minister in this regime. The necessary skills, experience and qualifications are not required criteria. Basically all you need are "struggle credentials" and preferably a black skin?

      kevin.day.7370 - 2012-07-04 16:52

      Azande, her 'selfless fight' has somehow turned into her making lots of money and not doing her job properly. I think every one of your sentences contains a racial comment and you need to know that I think using race as an excuse for non-performance is now an 18 year old practice that has become tiresome. Whoever can do the job properly (not whoever fought in the 'struggle')should be doing the job. That's how the real world works.

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-07-04 15:59

    Dlamini-Zuma needs to familiarise herself with the UN Gebneral Assembly Resolution (1992) A/RES/47/135 concerning the protection of minority rights. To be found at http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/47/a47r135.htm An extract: 1. States shall protect the existence and the national or ethnic, cultural, religious and linguistic identity of minorities within their respective territories and shall encourage conditions for the promotion of that identity. The final paragraph in this report, in qoutation marks, is surely diametrically opposed to the UN declaration?

      rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-07-04 16:15

      jerry....please! Just read it!

      Heinrich - 2012-07-04 16:34

      nah ,there is a different solution for nazi's: http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4617346_460s.jpg

      Nicolaas - 2012-07-04 16:52

      @DOMJERRY, Please read carefully before you come and display your eastern cape refugee education here on a platform for intellectual people. By displaying your stupidity to openly, we, the clever people reserve our right to feel superior to an idiot like you!

      iceberg.standard - 2012-07-05 10:18

      You are right Criticallyhonest. We have a Cooperate Governance and TRADITIONAL AFFAIRS ministry. The traditional leaders in KZN fall in this category and they surely are a minority with a huge amount of rights pertaining to their traditions. Dlamini-Zuma and her ex should move on the ground more often. In Joburg you don't see Black people with inferiority complexes. I don't frequent a single shop or business where I don't encounter or are served by Black men and women. They are "normal" everyday people with NO inferiority complexes. They drive smart shiny cars, live in security complexes. They have arrived Mrs Minister. They don't lack confidence.

  • elkita.robbertse - 2012-07-04 16:01

    Well well well.One look at you and,think for yourself.Look in the mirror.The whole world is getting sick of the ANC.

  • GregGow1234 - 2012-07-04 16:01

    It is because they are superior in a lot of areas i.e. The ANC making laws that affect everyone and then blaming the past which was 18 years ago when things go wrong.

  • Andre Lombard - 2012-07-04 16:04

    And so be swallowed up by the majority and lose my identity. No thank you

      martin.britchford.5 - 2012-07-05 12:30

      im a proud neanderthal decendant.

  • athol.pearson - 2012-07-04 16:04

    considering the comment "The minority must integrate with all of us and not be treated separately or differently”, does this mean the end of affirmative action. I mean is this not treating the minoroty differnt to the majority?

  • patrick.buckley.712 - 2012-07-04 16:06

    GIVE THIS WOMAN A.........BOX OF POLYFILLA Time to fill in the chip on her shoulder!

      jeffrey.jones.357 - 2012-07-04 16:34

      Not to mention the gap in her teeth.

      Michael - 2012-07-04 16:56

      careful there Jeffrey, that's the sheath of the nation you're talking about...

      Nicolaas - 2012-07-04 16:57

      @Jeffrey, you forgot the whole in her head where her brain is supposed to be located!

  • jerry.medina.756 - 2012-07-04 16:11

    Why don't the minister have their social cohesion in Orania instead of Kliptown? Because same people you want to ram cohesion into their throats don't want to.

      Nicolaas - 2012-07-04 17:00

      @Jerry, they want us to coheed with them into stealing, corrupting and robbing the poor! I mean, why now after 18 years they call for cohesion? Is it because their voters has waken and realise that all those in govament should not have been there in the first place and that they are actually on their way off the gravy train!

  • Gavin - 2012-07-04 16:11

    give that man, I mean, lady a hand grenade...

      phillys.winterbottom - 2012-07-04 16:49

      70 of them were actually stolen from our glorious and efficient SANDF today actually!!!!

      june.april.148 - 2012-07-04 17:40

      Hahahahaha - Brilliant

  • Angela - 2012-07-04 16:12

    "Some people still feel superior to others on the grounds of race" I am one of them, and if you ask me why that is, I'm afraid I'll have to answer you ! Not something you want !

      jeffrey.jones.357 - 2012-07-04 16:36

      Well Zuma would be an expert in that behavour ne!

      Nicolaas - 2012-07-04 17:02

      @Mzakes & Azande, how about having a brain and thinking for yourself instead of believing all the rubbish your govament tells you?

  • ben.louw.5 - 2012-07-04 16:14

    I think it's the other way around. Some still feel inferior..

  • Tracy Frantz-Morgan - 2012-07-04 16:14

    Im sick and tired of listening to this kind of nonsense. We need to start moving with the times not reverse it.

  • alice.pretorius - 2012-07-04 16:16

    Is that how she sees us? Superior? Let that chip on your shoulder fall off Madam

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-07-04 16:16

    We are all Africans why divide us in groups?

      fascisti.liberata - 2012-07-04 17:18

      I prefer not to be lumped with "africans".

      johan.maree.5036 - 2012-07-04 17:35

      @Jerry... read you own racist comment above (you called whites "human trash") before you claim to be anything other than a racist!

      cirrus11 - 2012-07-04 17:38

      ANC policy !.

  • jeffrey.jones.357 - 2012-07-04 16:16

    "...some people still feel superior because they belong to a certain race.” Who on earth could she be talking about?

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-07-04 16:20

    Like you, in your fancy car and house, don't feel superior to all the poor disadvantaged people in our country. Get a grip woman. Clearly being married to Zumba has affected your cognitive thinking. Did you interview every citizen of this country to come to your conclusion? Or did you suck it out of your ass?

  • Vlad - 2012-07-04 16:21

    Color of the skin means nothing....Color is just an indicator!Your cultural background+everything else attached to it-this what makes you superior....!!!!

  • chris.cunning.14 - 2012-07-04 16:22

    Thanks Nkosazana, I see you've got a few people on this forum calling for a Magube way. I know plenty people who think they better than others. It's not really a race thing, more of a money and status thing. "I drive a BMW, if you don't you a loser" attitude.

  • vmeiring1 - 2012-07-04 16:23

    It's not raced based, it's intellegency based. This government wants me to accept idiots as superiors??? Get real, start blaming stupidity and not race, as there are very intellegent, well educated, well experienced black employees who deserved their position, unlike the most bee's in the ruling government

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-07-04 16:25

    Mrs Zuma, you have got this all wrong. When a person grows up, gets a good education and improves his life he earns respect. The drunk man that stands outside begging outside the bottlestore does not earn the same respect. Take a look at your government, the ministers and those people who have been given some form of importance in the workplace. These people are merely government employees there to serve the people yet just look how arrogant they are. Lets face it, arrogance is covering for their incompetance. Yes, in every race you will find people who deserve more respect than others. Its called first self respect and hardwork. After 18 years a lot of blacks and indians have worked hard and they are respected for that. Everybody had the same chance after apartheid. Some people can never earn respect and thats the way they are, its their own doing. Why do you think we are going ballistic about the text book saga. People need a good education and thats what all races are complaining about, seems your government does'nt feel the same way, looking at all reasons not to do the right thing and get rid of that education minister. Mrs. Zuma, you must have travelled abroad alot, you must have witnessed the same in other western countries. Dont keep blaming the same people over and over again. The minority is being targeted, we are made to feel unwanted, we fear for our lives, we have doubts about the future and that of our children, so stop the blame game.

      Twolips - 2012-07-04 16:34

      @ winifred.watson.9 I think this is the best comment so far. *high five* BTW The minister should drop the Zuma part from her name, she is after all divorced from Jacob.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-07-04 16:47

      Well said.

      Arp Liebenberg - 2012-07-04 17:05

      brilliant comment Amen!

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-04 19:45

      Well~stated Watson!

  • dave.prinsloo - 2012-07-04 16:27

    dlamini-zuma feels inferior, and as usual, is compelled to ask the question Is it because I'm black? White superiority has all but vanished. It is black inferiority that is still rife.

      kevin.kramer111 - 2012-07-04 17:25

      Its' the white man's fault that she feels inferior..its' the white man's fault that she is inferior...its' the white man's fault period! Nothing will change...

  • markblack10 - 2012-07-04 16:29

    The minority must not be treated differently? Does this mean the end to BEE ? :D

  • wesleywt - 2012-07-04 16:30

    News24 commenters not afraid to let their racist opinions fly anymore. No shame.

  • vincent.debeer.7 - 2012-07-04 16:32

    “I find it a problem when the minority wants to be apart from the majority. The minority must integrate with all of us and not be treated separately or differently.” At the least! But being treated equally would mean that all South African minorities would now be on an equal socio-economic level (BEE, university admission bias, general affirmative action) as "the majority." “there can’t be social cohesion if some people still feel superior to other people”. I think what she means to say is: That there are some people, in some cultures, in some subculture, born out of some specific environment that would inevitably feel superior to another culture. But from lack of education it is the only culture they know- totally justifiable and nothing wrong with it. In fact the competitive nature between cultures should be a positive driving force in any ideal country. For millennia the hosts in power have kept knowledge from the people that serve them and hold them in power. So why would it be the ANC's top priority to educate the masses? ITS SERIOUS TIME FOR CHANGE!

      Arp Liebenberg - 2012-07-04 16:51

      well said! no BEE or AA, we are 18 years into this democracy, if we are not equal now we newer will be. Fact minority gives work to majority, majority proofed they cannot create their own wealth, they just want and want!

  • scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 16:36

    Damn right I feel superior - how else do you expect me to feel in the face of your government's incompetence and corrupt manner Mr Zuma?

  • scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 16:39

    Damn right I feel superior - how else do you expect me to feel in the face of ANC corruption and mismanagement???

  • fairness.iseverything - 2012-07-04 16:44

    I didn't even read the article and I can tell you that she/they forgot to mention that racism is now being applied both ways. In ny opionion a situation caused by lack of insight and greed

  • gary.dalton.75286 - 2012-07-04 16:45

    It is like saying, Americans should stop THINKING that they are more superior and act more like the Arabs!

  • elmarie.viljoen.7 - 2012-07-04 16:47

    Go cry me a river!! I have people who are superior to me, I am o.k. with that, it does not bother me and I am superior to other people too, its like that all over the world.. How do you want us to move forward when you, our government continue with race issues!!! Get over yourselves!

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-07-04 17:19

      Well said.

      merven.halo - 2012-07-06 08:51

      Yes, it got nothing to do with race. If you vote ANC you're inferior, simple.

  • grace.andtruth.77 - 2012-07-04 16:47

    And ONE person buying himself a R2billion plane while millions are homeless, hungry and cold is not an act of superiority? PLEASE!!

  • chris.preez.5 - 2012-07-04 16:47

    the race card, the only ammo the ANC have, its like the corner stone of their existence!! they are loosing the plot. Someone needs to teach the ANC what racism actualy is!! SA is the only country in the world where the majority has affirmative action against the minority.... Wonder who are the real racists. The spots that were taken through affirmative action, are the very reason why this country connot keep head above water!!

  • Pablo - 2012-07-04 16:49

    Yes minister, it's true, you and all the ANC and affiliated parties are not only racist, but you think you blacks in charge are superior to everyone else in the world.

  • Shirley Van Heerden - 2012-07-04 16:51

    One again politic dribble. Confuse the issues with the joker card - Race!! Get over it already!! We are all Africans - like it or not - we are born here, Let us worry about the real issues: Clinics with no meds, Hospitals with no food, Schools with no books, poor service delivery, No water, sanitation or electricity, corruption, fraud, crime. Need I continue. Geez, Get those chips of your shoulders man

  • kobus.oosthuizen.58 - 2012-07-04 16:52

    spot-on! some people of certain races DO think they are better than others, but this time it is not the white people of yesteryear, no, this time they drive around in black merc', bmw's, audi's, hummers, and lets not forget the black range rovers. these people also occupy high level positions throughout the private sector and government, and go through life with an extremely misplaced sense of entitlement. the pendulum has swung to the opposite end of where it used to be during apartheid.

  • chikunga - 2012-07-04 16:52

    you dont need go far to experience prejudice and descrimination based on skin color, you just need to read news24, you cant even trust the moderators on these commentaries or forums/blogs or whatever you call them.and for my own interest can someone tell me is BEE or AA wrong or maybe the implementation of it is the one wrong. So is it wrong to try to at least put every citizen on the same platform by trying to rectify past colonial injustices which made a few minority individual extremely wealthy compared to the poor majority.so nothing(implying BEE or AA ) was supposed to be implemented to correct those inhuman practices that inflicted too much psychological,physical and emotional damage on the majority based on their skin color. so you mean nothing was supposed to be implemented along those lines.nothing wrong with BEE policies except their implementation

      sbarnard2 - 2012-07-04 18:53

      So what u are saying is that is now our turn to starve and be jobless...u'r a twat

      chikunga - 2012-07-04 19:42

      sory @sbarnard2 if you read that from my statement but I am sure I am not implying you must starve but those who are starving due to colonial injustices need ways to be given a chance in the indipendant SA

      rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-07-04 22:56

      Chikunga: How many years do you reckon that it will take to redress the so-called injustices of colonialism in South Africa? How many generations will need to be born in the independant country of SA? Today it is 78 years since independance, probably four or five generations already! OK, let's try a different approach.....how many years of selective discriminatory practices such as BEE/AA do you reckon it will take to ensure that the average white persons education and capabilities will be reduced and the average black person's will be increased until they are similar. What is more to the point on what criteria will this ever be decided? I cannot help but feel that the accumulated resentment, plus the continued incremental resentment, piled onto to everyone by inflationary politically ignorant statments is going to make it impossible to develop a truly merit based society. One where individual differences and abilities are treated with respect as apposed to being subjugation in the morass of the collective..

  • nick.hill.52493 - 2012-07-04 16:52

    What she should have said was "Some people still feel INFERIOR to others on the grounds of race" !! Therein lies the solution !

  • fairness.iseverything - 2012-07-04 16:53

    I didn't even read the article and I can tell you that she/they forgot to mention that racism is now being applied both ways. In ny opionion a situation caused by lack of insight and greed

      fairness.iseverything - 2012-07-04 21:57

      Ok, so I read it based on your advice. Yes, playing with words leaves gaps for debate. However, why does it seem the finger is pointing in 1 particular direction? Swap those 2 words around and it means something diffrent. People will act diffrently for as long as they are treated diffrently. You have a long way to go