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Respect, don't insult our leaders - ANC

2012-01-16 12:41

Johannesburg - ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe has urged party members to stop insulting its leaders ahead of the ANC's elective conference in December, according to reports on Monday.

In a veiled attack on the ANC Youth League, Mantashe said it had become a trend for ill-disciplined members to use vulgar language about leaders while claiming to be militant, the Sowetan reported.

"Militants should always be guided by the values of the ANC - selflessness, humility, discipline, honesty and respect," he said at the party's centenary celebrations in Port Shepstone, KwaZulu-Natal, on Sunday.

"We cannot have members who want people to kneel down when they come."

Mocking Jacob Zuma

Youth loyal to ANCYL president Julius Malema sang a song in which they mocked President Jacob Zuma as the "shower man" two weeks ago at a rally on the sidelines of the ANC centenary celebrations.

They accompanied the song with a gesture over their heads symbolising a shower in a reference to Zuma's rape trial in 2006, during which he said he took a shower after having unprotected sex with an HIV-positive woman.

The same song was sung by a group supporting Malema's close ally and ANC Limpopo chairperson Cassel Mathale at the party's provincial conference in Polokwane in December.

At the conference, Malema was elected as member of the provincial executive committee.

Business Day reported Mantashe as saying that ANC leaders had to be respected and not insulted.

Anarchy

"If you are ill-disciplined, even if you pretend to be militant, you must know that militancy without discipline is anarchy. And if we allow anarchy to take control we will have no organisation."

The ANCYL is pushing for a change of leadership at the ANC's elective conference in Mangaung later this year.

Malema is reportedly leading a campaign to unseat Zuma in favour of Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe.

Malema's predecessor Fikile Mbalula, who is now sports minister, was the preferred candidate to take over from Mantashe as ANC secretary general.

Mantashe said there was no throne in the movement.

The Business Day quoted Mantashe as saying the leadership debate should not be a nightmare in which some people threatened: "We'll remove you, and you will be elected".

He reportedly said those who accepted money in exchange for votes to bring about a leadership change as taking "blood money".

He also questioned why branches were subjected to lists developed by the "well-resourced and moneyed".

Comments
  • Kobus - 2012-01-16 12:43

    Sorry to say but respect is something that must be earned.

      Shipingana - 2012-01-16 12:53

      Fully agreed, respect must be earned vice versa, how will you earn respect if you insult (character assasination) rather than debate meaningfully.

      TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-01-16 12:57

      why sorry to say? it's more like something to feel frustrated about rather than sorry. people need to wake up and learn.

      procold2 - 2012-01-16 13:07

      spot on, just wish they would stop giving the youth league air time

      GrootWitHaai - 2012-01-16 13:20

      Respect the ANC or the ancestors will punish you.

      Fritz - 2012-01-16 13:42

      Agreed. Additionally respect needs to me 'learned' and fostered. The ANC have been all too happy to let the ANCYL mob do their disrespecting and dirty work. Now that they are uncontrolable the ANc wants cry: respect us!

      Eduard - 2012-01-16 14:01

      Yes, you cannot buy respect....period

      Kirsten - 2012-01-16 14:10

      "Militants should always be guided by the values of the ANC - selflessness, humility, discipline, honesty and respect,"... oh please, what ANC member abides to any of these values. As Kobus says, Respect is earned.

      Shipingana - 2012-01-16 15:57

      @Leonard Bloch. I supposed that the issue was a bit little expanded in the forum. Unless if you may ellaborate more little in order to participate, or try to comment on what your eyes missed.

      mike.bester1 - 2012-01-16 16:42

      You need at least 4 Fathers to be respected .LOL Respect is earned !

      Bruce - 2012-01-17 10:45

      You said it! I do not approve of bad and insulting language, but something they all seem to be unable to take is criticism. They seem to regard that as an insult.

      Bob - 2012-01-18 08:38

      RESPECT ? it will be a dark day in hell before I can ever respect this bunch of criminals.

      Newsreader - 2012-01-18 09:45

      Bob, yes I agree...call a turd a turd!

      Leon - 2012-01-19 18:29

      Get leaders less worthy of insult.

  • Mike - 2012-01-16 12:52

    Is THAT what we call them now? "LEADERS"?????? What a joke!!

      Willie - 2012-01-16 14:22

      Mantashe should be charge by the anc for supporting zanu

  • TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-01-16 12:56

    the mere word/term/status 'leader' doesn't automatically earn respect. It is the action of someone deemed a leader that earns the respect. the anc sucks. they are allowing our society to rot in some cases!

  • CarlS - 2012-01-16 13:02

    "Values of the ANC - selflessness, humility, discipline, honesty and respect". Corruption isn't in the values list?

      Thabiso - 2012-01-16 14:20

      There should not be any values listed since the meaning has eluded them. Corruption too... It would go punished if they knew what corruption means!

      Ben - 2012-01-17 10:53

      These are Christian values with which the President should have a problem according to a recent speech. Does he also belong to the A.N.C.?

  • colin.chester1 - 2012-01-16 13:02

    Funny how life turns out...These are the very same people that were supporting Zuma during the course of his trial.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-01-16 15:30

      Impossible to take anything they say as sincere. They chop and change their views according to whom appears to be on their side. What a shallow bunch, how can anyone have respect for any of them?

  • Myvision - 2012-01-16 13:06

    Cde Gwede was addressing an ANC gatherin and this was a call to ANC members to act in line with ANC tradition and people are acting as if this was a National call from government.

      Positiewe - 2012-01-16 13:23

      If the ANC can't even respect the person(s) they voted into power, how can the rest of the country/world?

      Myvision - 2012-01-16 13:46

      If your neighbour hails insults at his family that is by no means a sign that you should do the same.

      Garth - 2012-01-16 14:25

      The anc is the current government, hence we are at liberty to criticize, or praise, each and every thing that they say or do. Only when their utterings do not affect the well-being of this country, then shall we not listen to their `hailed insults'. That is the problem with the ignorant anc supporter - none of you know that the useless anc is also the government of this country.

  • EyesEars - 2012-01-16 13:10

    ANC you have created your own baby. Deal with him!

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-01-16 13:11

    They should just carry on and destroy from the inside... just like cANCer does.

  • Brent - 2012-01-16 13:12

    okay, point taken and agreed. now you respect the country, it's citizens, the constitution, the position you're occupying and the respomsibility and integrity that comes with that.

  • Charmaine - 2012-01-16 13:12

    What Respect? they do not display respect to the people of this Country and the world as we know it today? Why should the people respect the leaders that are corrupt?

  • Elkieta - 2012-01-16 13:16

    Mantashe,the ANC don't deserve respect and not even the breat they take......

  • shauncro - 2012-01-16 13:20

    Respect is earned! Get off your lazy @ss3s, do what you promise, stop stealing and maybe then you will be worthy of my respect! And it's my constitutional right to not respect people that I don't feel deserve it!

  • TahirSema - 2012-01-16 13:21

    Insults and name calling is the lowest anyone could stoop to.

  • ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-01-16 13:22

    Militants should always be guided by the values of the ANC - selflessness, humility, discipline, honesty and respect," These are not the values of the ANC, if anything its the exact opposite values that make you a leader in the ANC

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-01-16 13:23

    Eff you ANC... i will respect someone who deserves it and who earns it. Not just because they are supposed "leaders" Not everyone in this country has your backward traditional way of think, where the whole tribe blindly follows and "respects" the chief. If you want to live in a modern society with all its benefits, you cannot hang on to tradition. So... do something (like Mandela did) to earn the people's respect.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-01-16 14:01

      *typo: backward thinking... lol

  • Vuyo - 2012-01-16 13:28

    Jacob Zuma used to smile when Malema was insulting president Mbeki. It seems the tables have now turned . The chickens have now come to roost.

  • Jabulani - 2012-01-16 13:28

    you (ANC) taught him not to respect from the begining why cry for respect now , it's too late

  • Kobus - 2012-01-16 13:38

    Mr Mantashe, I feel for you. However, you should not complain to much as it was ANC policy started by your leader in 1984 to make SA ungovernable. Perhaps the ANC did not bargain on having an ungovernable SA under ANC rule?

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-01-16 13:40

    THAN DEAR SIR GROW SOME HAIR ON YOUR CHEST AND ACT LIKE A LEADER AND THAN MAYBE WE WILL SE THAT YOU ARE OR AT LEAST TRY TO ACT LIKE A LEADER, UP TO AND UNTIL THAN YOU OR WHOEVER WANTS TO BE RESPECTED MUST ACCEPT IT AS A FACT THAT NOBODY WILL RESPECT YOU OR THEM SAYONARA PEACE

  • Newsreader - 2012-01-16 13:41

    It's like inmates telling each other who is who and who is in charge and who must not do what. At the end of the day they are all criminals. The ANC are no better than a gang of inmates.

  • Michiel - 2012-01-16 13:46

    "Militants should always be guided by the values of the ANC - selflessness, humility, discipline, honesty and respect," Seems to me that the youth is just following the leaders that have none of the above.....

  • Archie - 2012-01-16 13:47

    Respect is earned over a long period and is lost in a blink.ANC/communist party has to learn these things.Cant buy everything.Cuba enforces their ideology over the cubanos. one party state no worries no elections no respect

  • djmain1 - 2012-01-16 13:49

    It's dog eat dog!!! Phansi cANCer, phansi!!

  • Phumi - 2012-01-16 13:57

    We will only respect those leaders who are going to take the agenda of the economic freedom fighters forward! We will never respect those who go to England to promise the Queen that her ill-gotten wealth will forever be preserved in this country!

      Henk - 2012-01-16 14:15

      Explain to us what is an "economic freedom fighter" please. I hear & see that phrase thrown about by just about every imbicile who gets on a platform, but I fail to fulle grasp the meaning of the term. You want to achieve what by doing what? I'm serious. Explain. And explain why you mention the queen. If you cannot do so to our satisfaction, please go away.

      Saffa - 2012-01-16 14:22

      ROTFLMAO @ "economic freedom fighters".....Is that a term one could use to describe those amongst us who want things for free?

      PaasHaas - 2012-01-16 14:29

      Is an economic freedom fighter one of those with a 30% matric pass average who confidently tenders for and wins a R50 million contract to build bridges?

      Deon - 2012-01-16 15:27

      This "economic freedom" that you and Malema is talking about is nothing else but theft. We don't need this Zim type politics here in SA.

      MarkH - 2012-01-16 19:03

      Are you sure you're reading the same article buddy?

      Bob - 2012-01-18 08:43

      henk63, you still don't know what "economic freedom fighters" are ?, they are a bunch of people that want to take from those that have earned something and have it for nothing, simple.

  • survival.tektix - 2012-01-16 14:08

    Gwede Mantrax and Showerman are hipocrites, come mangaung they will be dethroned. They tread ANC like its some maskandi band, and they are the lead singers. MBEKI is back to make them feel the exact pain they cost em in polokwane.

  • Garth - 2012-01-16 14:14

    "Militants should always be guided by the values of the ANC - selflessness, humility, discipline, honesty and respect," okay, hang on, hang on, is this a test to see how many contradictions one can fit in a single sentence? Values - if it has value steal it or nationalise it. Selflessness - let's show how selfless we are and use 400 million of the tax payers' money for a pi$$ up. Humility - hah, aha ha, aha ha, hah, aha, aha, aharrrgh, puke. Honesty - let's not start on this okay. Respect - there is an old adage that had relevance in better days: `Respect begets respect.' The useless anc politicians' delusions of grandeur and their supporters' ignorant reverence for their stolen trappings of wealth do not beget respect. When the politicians of this country become the servants of the people and eliminate the corruption that they wallow in, then, maybe, they shall beget respect. And it is because you are a two-faced liar mantashe, that we do not respect you.

  • Gavin - 2012-01-16 14:23

    R E S P E C T find out what it means to me, definitely not A N C.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-01-16 14:32

      Lol the DA should play that to them... your version i mean.

  • Julie - 2012-01-16 14:26

    LOL Values of ANC - HONESTY AND RESPECT...... Still laughing

  • braamc - 2012-01-16 14:29

    You earn respect and don't have the right to steal, squander and waste tax payers money. So ANC go f%$ck yourself, be real leaders then we'll talk

  • Deon - 2012-01-16 14:37

    "If you are ill-disciplined, even if you pretend to be militant, you must know that militancy without discipline is anarchy. And if we allow anarchy to take control we will have no organisation." WOW!!!! In 1994 we had 85000 food producing commercial farms compared to 11000 this year according to SA tax records. In addition to the loss of commercial farmers, more than 1 million black farm workers have become unemployed. Under its European founders South Africa had a 5 percent unemployment rate for whites and blacks, now it has unemployment exceeding 50 percent. SA is heading toward the murderous and oppressive conditions of Zimbabwe and Mugabe. Farm attacks in South Africa are 700% higher than attacks on farms in any other country on Earth. The murder rate of South African commercial farmers is the highest for any specific group in the world 313 per 100,000. The known death toll of 4000+ farmers have been murdered. Compare these with the death-rates during the apartheid era from 1948 to 1994, when a total 900 political murders were recorded, according to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. If the world could boycott South Africa for having separate racial development, should it not boycott the South African Government for the genocide going on against white people in the country today?

  • sdgareth - 2012-01-16 14:40

    respect is a two way street Sir!

  • Johnny - 2012-01-16 14:46

    "Leaders" my ass !!!

  • Carlien - 2012-01-16 15:08

    I agree totally with Mantashe. Malema is retaliating because of he's bruised ego. Zuma is doing his best to keep this country democratic. I just wish people would see past Malema's bs and realize he's only after power and money.

      Garth - 2012-01-16 15:19

      `Zuma is doing his best to keep this country democratic.' Say what? What country, nay continent, nay planet are you from girlie?

  • Sibongile - 2012-01-16 15:13

    The Business Day quoted Mantashe as saying the leadership debate should not be a nightmare in which some people threatened: "We'll remove you, and you will be elected".

  • Irene - 2012-01-16 15:28

    The day I respect the ANC, it's leaders or it's supporters is the day that hell freezes over.

  • Chumscrubber1 - 2012-01-16 15:35

    I must admit there are few human beings I have less respect for than these self serving comrades. What a hopeless bunch we have ruling this country. May the self serving infighting continue until they implode, I congratulate the right wing on funding Malema to help this cause. Nobel.

  • Thabo - 2012-01-16 15:44

    Is very shame for Mantashe,He must not try to lobby his position of secretary again.He must not try to be honest and principled,while we know that he is weak with everything.He is always contraticting his statements.This is the ANC,is the organisation is not his property or his society,he must learn that.He must not feel threats,when we say Mbalula is becoming secretary,he must start to lobby and support Mbalula for this position.He must stop attacking ANCYL,HE did not even serve in the ANCYL during his times.Nothing that we can learn from Mantashe.

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2012-01-16 15:51

    You don't demand respect , you earn it. Showerman is in fact , the showerman. Everyone knows that. You earned it mr Zuma , live with it.

  • Hilary - 2012-01-16 16:17

    Did the adults forget to "train the child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not turn from it"? Are the children (youth) walking in the footsteps of their fathers?

  • ian.bosch - 2012-01-16 16:18

    shjow me one.. JUST ONE who deserves or has earned even the tiniest bit of respect.. hahhaha knew u woudnt be able to find one.. they are all scumsuckers right from the top down to the most grass roots scumbag

  • Patrick - 2012-01-16 16:37

    Why Now! all along they did not notice that Malema had no respect when they removed Mbeki, now that the wheel has turned, they say he has no respect, what goes around comes around “Mtye ntoyakhe”.

  • mike.bester1 - 2012-01-16 16:43

    heHeHeHeHeHeHe

  • Shirley - 2012-01-16 17:20

    Disrespectful"CHILDREN" are due to bad parenting,lack of discipline andno structure in the "home" Too late to try and chastise them now-you created these monsters!

  • peter.norma - 2012-01-16 17:30

    The office should be respected, yes, but not necessarily the individual holding it. Personally I cannot have any respect for a holder of the office of president who has been embroiled in unresolved corruption allegations, whether that office is here or anywhere else.

  • Power - 2012-01-16 18:19

    Respect is EARNED !!!!!!

  • Gerry - 2012-01-16 18:31

    The ANC has just been audited and found to have wasted R25 Billion Rand of SA taxpayers hard earned money! No respect for these clowns. We should all respect the hardworking taxpayers of South Africa by withholding our taxes so that this corrupt government cannot waste any more of our hard labour and time. No respect for these rodents. Who the hell do thy think they are? Pontificating political morons who steal from their citizens and destroy all our hard work. History will show no respect to these idiots. Eventually the truth will out and no amount of editing of history books will cover their failure and the shame it the will bring on all Africa. The whole world will laugh at these buffoons and will wonder why they ever put any hope in the the "New South Africa."

  • MarkH - 2012-01-16 19:01

    Excuse me Mr Mantashe but would you care to repeat those values, "selflessness, humility, discipline, honesty and respect" and kindly inform us when they were last adhered to. As far as I can see the only values I see being practiced are greed, dishonesty, avarice and nepotism. Perhaps I'm biased but who was the last member of the ANC who was selfless, who could even spell humility, who was disciplined, honest and respectful? Madiba I believe but I could be wrong.

  • Gail - 2012-01-16 20:22

    Sadly respect is only accorded to those who have earned it through leading an exemplary life and setting an example. It doesn't come with the position automatically and neither should it be used as a way to enrich yourself at the expense of your illiterate voters. If you take on the responsibility of being the President and a member of the ruling party you need to realise that that comes with being held up to scrutiny by people who both did and didn't vote for you. If you can't stand the heat then stay out of the kitchen. All politicians globally are setting themselves up to be a target of armchair critics just as anyone who is in the public eye.

  • Mariano - 2012-01-16 20:59

    You do not deserve the respect of the people. You cannot force the people to respect you. You have to earn our respect Mr. Matanshe. And when you lack self-respect, how can anybody respect you, Sir!.

  • Mariano - 2012-01-16 21:00

    You do not deserve the respect of the people. You cannot force the people to respect you. You have to earn our respect Mr. Matanshe. And when you lack self-respect, how can anybody respect you, Sir!.