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Corruption is SA's biggest threat: Cosatu

2011-12-08 14:31

Johannesburg - Corruption is the elite's way to steal from the poor, Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said in Johannesburg on Thursday.

"It has become a matter of life and death. Corruption is the biggest threat to the realisation of our dreams," he told an anti-corruption summit.

"Self-enrichment will unravel the fabric of society."

Vavi said up to 20% of government procurement was lost to corruption as officials exploited gaps in the system to procure government tenders.

"We are facing a nightmare future in South Africa... people are systematically using their power to secure... parts of society."

He said if the current economic system of capitalism continued with the "me first" mentality, it would be difficult to root out corruption.

"The culture of me first accumulates and accumulates that one person in this country earns R627m per year... while workers earn less than R1 500 per month," said Vavi.

Comments
  • rynhardt.ferreira - 2011-12-08 14:37

    No ways... Really? You don't say...

      methedex - 2011-12-08 15:02

      We've been facing a corruption nightmare since the ANC gained there two thirds majority...

      Penny-wise - 2011-12-08 15:05

      Finally, someone from the tripartite alliance who is prepared to lay the blame squarely at the feet of the ANC corruption, and not blame minority groups anymore .... About time someone WOKE UP !!!

      tbooze - 2011-12-08 15:34

      BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH we've heard that before ,now what you gona do about it ?

      Hallo - 2011-12-08 15:37

      methedex - the ANC do not have a two thirds majority, get with the program.

      methedex - 2011-12-08 15:45

      Then how did they get that damn information bill across?

      Ibhubesi - 2011-12-08 16:12

      @Poloyatonki. There have been times that I seriously doubted your comments coming from someone serious about the future of this country. You posted the most stupid stuff which made me think you only post to get people annoyed. But of late there is an intelligence coming through and that puzzles me even more. How can someone with a brain like yours be voting for a government run by fools? I would love to sit down with you and meet the real man behind these comments.

      Spyker - 2011-12-08 17:40

      No Vavi.., Capitalism is NOT the cause of Corruption - it is in fact the antonym for corruption. Laissez-faire capitalism requires absolute competition, - viz you simply will NOT be competitive if you are corrupt. Corruption is the consequence of SOCIALISM (and all its derivatives), because there is no COMPETITION and no natural mechanism to de-incentivise corruption. Trade Unions are the hallmark of Socialism, in fact it is the shining lighthouse on the hill for Socialism - so, Vavi - YOU and your kind are indeed the PRIMARY cause of corruption. There is no greater validation than the fact that ALL (bar none) of the Social States are- and were (and/or remain) rotten to the core with corruption. 'Corruption' is the 'Currency of Africa' - it defines Africa and is its most recognisable feature - a universally accepted verity. The ANC has taken SA to levels of corruption that was not imaginable in our worst nightmares. But most Africans are corrupt by nature and hence the reason the ANC remains the popular choice - as such then, it was a self-fulfilling prophecy...

      Mike - 2011-12-08 20:13

      @TypeRSA: I also would NEVER have guessed it!!!! Is he sure???????

      Eduard - 2012-01-26 13:59

      COSATU...you are also the same group that voted them in...duh!!! I see the ANC as republican party in USA and the DA as the democrats. Time for change is now!!!!

  • Grant - 2011-12-08 14:37

    Vavi, we all know this! what are you, as a member of this corrupt alliance doing apart from just talking about it. The corrupt elite have cloth ears and expensive bodyguards, they do not give a damn.

  • Waheed - 2011-12-08 14:38

    You would expect those that come from little to be more appreciative and sensitive to those in similar positions. Yes, corruption is evident all over the world, but it is entrenched moreso here in Africa. The only difference is that elsewhere service delivery is not as regressive!

  • Andres - 2011-12-08 14:40

    I agree that corruption could destroy this nation. Vavi, you're going to have to get tough on your allies and till thus far, the "addressing the rot from within" is not working. in the previous year there was R30billion in wasteful and irregular government expenditure as uncovered by the Auditor General. Maybe you should consider withdrawing your alliance to the ruling party in protest, or consider giving COSATU a real voice by starting a Labour Party? Politicians, regardless of political party, only respond to the threat of losing an election. Give the power of the "X" back to the people of South Africa.

      Ibhubesi - 2011-12-08 15:47

      Andres, this is the most practical and the most brilliant comment I have ever read on here. Andres for President please!

      Wendy - 2011-12-08 16:04

      I'll vote for that!!

      Hunter - 2011-12-08 16:52

      Andres, you have a good point there. Of late Cosatu has been more and more critical of the ANC led grovernment and elsewhere in the world the labour moevements have been able to swing the balance of votes (even in Zim's utterly rigged elections. Their anti-capitalism stance is the only bother and mean that they might link up with SACP rather if a split should occur.

      Philip - 2012-01-04 15:47

      I'm in!

  • Mike_or_Mpho - 2011-12-08 14:44

    Make note of this wonderful speech at the next general elections, when we will see you buddying up with your corrupt ANC colleagues once again.

      PB - 2011-12-08 15:19

      That is something I can't understand - once you know your partner is a corrupt criminal, most of us would break up the marriage. It is like a battered woman returning to her abusive husband again and again - eish it makes no sense.

      Ibhubesi - 2011-12-08 15:49

      Gentlemen be patient. At least someone within that rotten alliance is starting to say something!

  • George - 2011-12-08 14:47

    So what are YOU Vavi going to do about it. You can mobilise your following or just sit there and talk

  • NrGx - 2011-12-08 14:49

    ...said the pot to the kettle

  • Stephen - 2011-12-08 14:50

    Ok Vavi, so what next? we all know this, have you got the balls and the brains to do something about it. how about changing your vote?

      Iceberg - 2011-12-08 20:26

      Or breaking away and forming your own party?

  • Brendan - 2011-12-08 14:56

    Why don't you blame Apartheid - as usual??

      Stephen - 2011-12-08 15:08

      Or, "it's because the whites still have all the money"

  • Phumezo - 2011-12-08 15:03

    adding more injury to the workers is the exploitation by the Union bosses on whatever little they have. Those who are poor and marginalised should not pay a cent towards the union contributions instead the rich and togethor with government should subsidise them! But then again this is just a pipe dream because those who are entrusted to be vangaurd of the workers are dining with the kings behind closed doors! On a lighter note: Congradulation with your new executive post at IDC comrade secretary general we hope that you are not going to be drunk with the perks that comes with the new job!

  • Shirley - 2011-12-08 15:13

    Cosatu is as guilty as the stealers! They keep voting these corrupt ARSH@LES into power then whinging about the corruption. How many years of the same repetitive behaviour do they need??

  • Stephen - 2011-12-08 15:17

    Wrong! Corruption is now a thing of the past; it's the civil gravy war that we now face.

  • braamc - 2011-12-08 15:19

    So what you gonna do about it, tell us something we don't know your idiot

  • Simon - 2011-12-08 15:20

    So how does one get a government full of corrupt officials to stamp out corruption? Catch 22

  • alan.erwin1 - 2011-12-08 15:22

    And your point Zwelinzima ?????????? Let me tell you a good point from many in SA. You support the corrupt ANC and your members vote for them – WELL NOW YOU CAN TAKE THE MEDICINE THEY DISH OUT – The corruption in this government, the police force and local councils makes the so call past rulers of SA look like a tea party.

  • Lynn - 2011-12-08 15:27

    Yet you keep helping to keep the corrupt in power.

  • nicosmit - 2011-12-08 15:28

    maybe next time confront government for funds before organising strike actions which costs this country and affects it's people even more than corruption

  • denise.wilshire - 2011-12-08 15:33

    Pot calling the kettle black. Your fees, your rolling mass action. The corruption within the ANC. None of you care about the people of this country. You are both destroying what used to be a promising land.

  • Hallo - 2011-12-08 15:36

    Captain Obvious strikes again.

  • StarStruck - 2011-12-08 15:36

    Vavi is just making noise. Me thinks he wants a piece of the pie. 20% of procurement does not sound correct. SA's GDP must be in the R100Billions, they can't create jobs fast enough or build enough houses. The ANC's productiveness sounds like it can be firmly placed at 20%

  • martin.vandermerwe - 2011-12-08 15:36

    And what do you think is going to happen if they start to nationalise the mines and bank......all in the DNA.

  • Phil.Kleynhans - 2011-12-08 15:43

    In the apartheid era the poor black people lived much better than now. 90 % of the goverment is corupt. They dont give a damn about the poor. The more they take the more they want and f**k the poor

      ptmogala - 2011-12-08 16:00

      They build shoddy houses for their own people,they rob their own, they steal from their own, they lie to their own, they laugh at their own people. Until Vavi does an honourable thing I will not take him seriuosly.

      Ibhubesi - 2011-12-08 16:01

      The Nationalists had an Information Act that prevented their corruption from being as blatant as the ANC's corruption. There was a document leaked this week that showed Barend Du Plessis's raid on public assets. It will soon be public knowledge. Hold back back on your comparison between the two evils Phil. I agree, this one could be worse, but the Nats were no angels either.

      Liz - 2011-12-08 20:51

      I agree Ibhubesi - the Nationalists were also a very self serving and often corrupt government. It puzzles me when I read statements like Phil.Kleynhans that in the apartheid era - "poor black people live much better than now" I worked in a bantustan hospital and administration between the 1960's and the at the height of forced resettlement, very limited resources and poor facilities and it was a huge daily struggle responding to malnutrition and poverty. It is exactly that legacy of widespread underdevelopment and neglect particularly of the rural areas that has created huge backlogs in the provision of services today. The corruption within the ANC appals me but so did the corruption of the Nationalist Party and I don't remember endless letters to the paper or outpourings of indignation then. But of course if you did you were soon under investigation by the security police and branded a communist. At least that does not happen now..

  • Simon - 2011-12-08 15:54

    The big problem here, which causes this continuous downward spiral, is that the majority of the voting public do not trust white people. They will continue to vote for the ANC because they believe, wrongly, that the ANC is working on their behalf. Those of us who realize that the only people the ANC are working for are themselves are, unfortunately, a minority.

      ptmogala - 2011-12-08 16:01

      Sad but true.

  • Sharon - 2011-12-08 15:56

    Guess what, it is going to continue until.......

  • Msholozi - 2011-12-08 15:58

    why is they threatening our leaders? corruption is happening in santon in the corporate structures of the economy and the mines not our leaders healing our economic struggle

      jon.poole2 - 2011-12-08 17:18

      And as long as there are people like you who don't know who is busy raping their future and blindly chant "it's because of the whites" - the pillage will continue and "your leaders" will laugh all the way to the bank, pausing only to piss on your dreams and your "economic struggle".

  • Brad - 2011-12-08 16:01

    I dont know why the majority complain about the ANC and their lack of service delivery, after all they did vote for them.

  • Sterling - 2011-12-08 16:03

    This guy Vavi is a big phoney because he nevers call for setting up a special prosecutor to fight crime and corrutpion in SA.

  • Barry - 2011-12-08 16:09

    You who are corrupt. Do something.

  • SirFGrumpy - 2011-12-08 16:10

    Give that man a Bells! At last you wankers have woken up to the fact that its not: - the whites - apartheid - the weather - gods will Its your greedy comrades! Tax payers revolt now!

      The-Azanian - 2011-12-08 17:01

      Duhhh...wtf. get a lyf dude.

      Johan - 2011-12-09 09:51

      Its "Life", not "Lyf". He already has a lyf.

      Johann - 2012-01-26 14:33

      lol !

  • Pieter - 2011-12-08 16:17

    Corruption occur in the African parts of government, and as such Africans holding power, is the biggest enemy of the country as a whole. It will be the majority of these corrupt Africans, that destroy the small remaining segment of a white civilization that remains in South Africa as well. Use the language properly, without perversions, and educate Africans to better educate their present generation of children, so that by tomorrow, we will have created a responsible black society.

      The-Azanian - 2011-12-08 17:06

      Whites doin wat dey r gud @...underminin otherz, europe is gettin corrupt nw wit the dept crunch u nw.

      The-Azanian - 2011-12-08 17:07

      Whites doin wat dey r gud @...underminin otherz, europe is gettin corrupt nw wit the dept crunch u nw.

      Blade - 2011-12-08 17:15

      By tommorrow? We have been trying to get them right for about 400 years and havent gotten very far...

      Piet - 2011-12-15 22:03

      @The-Azanian. The problem is that clueless idiots like you are allowed to vote, and drive cars.

  • cyanideandhappiness - 2011-12-08 16:30

    SO run for president and take some action Vavi!!!

  • Bob - 2011-12-08 16:42

    So..! Distance yourself totally from the ANC to start with! Publicly state that you give Zuma a no confidence vote. Then come back and talk!

  • Henning - 2011-12-08 16:45

    Wow, Cosatu has a firm grasp of the obvious!!

  • Blade - 2011-12-08 16:48

    And trade unions are SA's 2nd biggest threat.

  • OSBMOVEMENT - 2011-12-08 17:36

    You get people that piss in their own gene pool. Some of the people commenting here, pool's have dried up. When the level of stupidity crashes so low, its actually funny to see how stupid the wise sound, trying to stoop to a level of reasoning that borders on the absurd. Stop trying to convince an animal that's missed out on 50 000 years of evolution. Its like teaching a pig to play guitar. You only wasting your time and pissing the pig off.

      Piet - 2011-12-15 22:08

      I'm really concerned that you consider a pig to be equal to these idiots. It's not fair - to the pig.

  • Faith - 2011-12-08 19:02

    NEXT ELECTION EVERY RACE GROUP, SOCIAL CLASS ETC MUST VOTE FOR ANYTHING& EVERYTHING BUT NOT ANC... THIS ELITE MUST BE BOYCOTTED OUT OF POWER SOON!

  • TheWatcher - 2011-12-08 19:45

    I'd personally say that incompetence is the single biggest threat to South Africa, but still a step in the right direction since there's quite a bit of overlap of the people involved. Now what is going to be done about it?

  • Elsie - 2011-12-09 06:47

    This has been an ongoing song for long, the question is - what has been done to root corruption - nothing? tenders dun go outside doors anymore, it is won be4 one can bid, advert/procedure is only for paperwork purposes,its so crazy out there, the culture of me 1st is not going anywhere

  • Johan - 2011-12-09 08:07

    Ja issit? Pretty rich coming from him, seeing his own wife is doing exactly what he is preaching against. Did you all forget about it? http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/scandal-hits-vavi-s-wife-1.479179

  • Gavin - 2011-12-09 09:44

    Wow - what gave it away - give this moron a bells.

  • Tanie - 2011-12-13 20:04

    VAVI SAYS "Corruption is the elite's way to steal from the poor" WHY THE HELL DO THE ARSHOLES CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR THE ANC AND JUMA AND WANT TO KEEP THE ANC IN POWER. THEY ARE DAMN IDIOTS JUST LIKE MOST OF THE BAD POLITICAINS IN SA

  • Piet - 2011-12-15 22:21

    What exactly is the difference between Vavi and Zuma making the same anti-corruption speeches. Well nothing really, except that Zuma is the second partner in a Generally Corrupt Relationship with Scaaik and should be in jail if the correct due process was followed, and is therefore himself by definition corrupt. And Vavi is corrupt by criticising the corruption and then partaking in them as part of the TriPartyt structure.

  • Ryan - 2012-01-26 13:55

    I'd put COSATU higher on the list of threats to SA than corruption.

  • Johann - 2012-01-26 14:21

    Vavi, I salute you for being so honest in your thinking, but forget now about socialism and communism, capitalism and thus privatization, is the way to go: a school that teaches individuals, and communities, to look after their possessions, care for it, and build today, for tomorrow.

  • Johnson - 2012-01-26 20:42

    The problem with corruption, even if and when its reported - there is no leadership or political will to do something about it - Political connected, even when found guilty, do not serve any jail terms, THE loop hole is lets play sick. Yngeni in terms of the law is never allowed to work for the state or even get a state tender - yet he is now the chief adviser to government in terms future of the SANDF. Limpopo is under administration, what people do is to remove files or evidence which ends up as expenditure un-accounted for - everybody goes home and stays employed even if you cant proof what happen to the money un-accounted for ANC can not and will not eradicate corruption - it's how political alliances and positions within the ANC are secured. It's a Nobel cause where is the top brass in government - support behind this, media and whistle blower will be shutdown by the public information act - THERE IN NIL POLITICAL WILL FROM THE ANC TO STOP CORRUPTION - THAT IS A FACT - Unless the tax payer says enough is enough - we can stand united and refuse to pay any further taxes they will pull this or that move and never get caught or go to jail. Sorry we can complain as much as we like - without action you can report corruption and it will be swept under the carpet

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