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SA woman's execution - Zuma must help

2011-12-11 15:33

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma should make a last-minute attempt to save the life of a South African woman condemned to death in China for drug smuggling, the Democratic Alliance (DA) said on Sunday.

Janice Bronwyn Linden, 35, from KwaZulu-Natal is due to be executed on Monday by the Chinese government after she was caught carrying three kilograms of crystal methamphetamine at an airport in that country in November 2008.

She will be executed by lethal injection.

"We call on President Zuma to make a last-ditch attempt to have her sentence commuted. Our government cannot stand idly by while one of our citizens is executed on foreign shores," said DA MP Stevens Mokgalapa.

He said that although South African authorities had tried to intervene it was "clear that whatever our diplomats have done, it has not been enough to save Ms Linden's life".

"Our President must do the right thing and speak out before it's too late," he said.

Linden, who has exhausted all possible appeal processes, is not aware of her impending execution, as is the practice of the Chinese government.

The condemned are only told on the morning of the execution.

"Drug mules should be punished for what they do. But this is clearly a case of a punishment not fitting the crime," said Mokgalapa.

Mokgalapa said he would submit parliamentary questions to find out what steps the department of international relations and co-operation had taken to have her sentence commuted.

Two of Linden's sisters are in China and will be allowed an hour with her before she is put to death.

Comments
  • Ben - 2011-12-11 15:39

    If this is the law in China, althuogh i feel sorry for her, our president should stay out of it. This then would be a law applicable to any such Chinese citizens as well.

      GARBADGEDAY - 2011-12-11 15:42

      actually i would prefer death over life in a chinese prison... And as harsh as the penalty is, this is no exception. The laws on drug trafficking in many Asian countries are extremely tough and it's a well known fact.

      Dean Kenad - 2011-12-11 15:52

      @maggie We are fast taking over from the nigerians in drug peddling

      Lyndatjie - 2011-12-11 16:31

      I agree- its the law in China - there should be a VERY strong message to everybody selling DRUGS to enrich themselves. Just remember while we all feel very sorry for her - she is instrumental in creating drug addicts, which enhances crime tenfold while making people play russian roulette with their lives. So to people like her money is more important than life... well then - take hers because she clearly doesn't value life as much as money.

      Kenny - 2011-12-11 17:08

      She knew what would happen if she got caught, so its her own stupidity. I wonder how many life's her drug trafficking has destroyed?

      James - 2011-12-11 17:15

      Hey SA is testing the export market to China. Problem they are smart and usually not corrupt and will fry you. She is lucky,the usual method is on your knees and a bullet.

      proafrikaans - 2011-12-11 17:29

      In case anybody was wondering what Ms Linden looks like. Not quite the appearance that the Western-sounding name may have led one to expect, eh? http://www.galloimages.co.za/image/all-we-can-do-is-pray/739324/1

      Grant - 2011-12-11 17:38

      @proafrikaans...what has this to do with anything? She has committed a crime in a foreign country and she is subject to the laws of that country. Finish and klaar. I would be in support of the death sentence for all drug peddlers, rapists and murderers in our own country - irrespective of race, colour or creed.

      JoaoFlickr - 2011-12-11 19:42

      I am sorry, but she has already lived longer than the people who used the drugs she distributed. As I see it, she will be dying of natural causes - her death will be natural to her way of life. Being executed comes with the territory she wandered into.

      bernpm - 2011-12-11 21:31

      Why so much fuzz about one dead SA woman?? Our taxi drivers do a better job in killing SA people and on an almost daily basis. And...most of them did not even smuggle drugs!!

      John - 2011-12-11 23:25

      Charity Starts At Home! Zuma Must Help in South Africa! The Blue Light Brigade Strikes Again! Friday, 09 of December, cars on the highway from Durban gave way to a political convoy with blue lights. Remembering 1 man killed by the Blue Light Brigade in Durban, and another in Jo'burg, I protested those murders and raised my finger as they drove past. They proceeded to block me and lunge their cars at me, as I swerved, slowed and pulled away. I held strong and steadfast in my protest! My family, however, were badly shaken. It is time that the ANC realizes that they are not above criticism and rejection, and also NOT ABOVE THE LAW! I expected them to zap me back, or even lay misdemeanor charges against me. But the public harassment and bullying shows that these mental's are in a mindset of their own. They need to be banished to Antarctica!

      Pierre - 2011-12-12 07:11

      Vanessa Goosen springs to mind. Fortunately she was released after 16 years. I do believe in clemency to allow people to have a second chance. If the date mentioned is Monday today, it might be too late already. (@John: Seems you had a bad experience. You should be able to take legal action; maybe opposition political parties might want to take your case up.)

      Kevin - 2011-12-12 14:35

      stuff these chinese f%#kers how many of these rats are in our country illegally? they live like pigs and live at the casino? where do they get the money? they dont know how to speak english! we should kill them also illegal money and stealing is the same thing as drugs!

  • Comrade - 2011-12-11 15:42

    This should be interesting. Dalai Lama and now this! ... China's bitch Zuma !!!!

  • Dean Kenad - 2011-12-11 15:44

    South African drug peddlers in jails in brazil, china, malaysia, mozambique.... South african flight crews caught with drugs on SAA. South africans caught growing huge hectres of drugs... Well the nigerians are fast losing the top spot to south africans. At least we have already overtaken them to 2nd spot in economic crimes and corruption.

      bernpm - 2011-12-11 16:04

      .....you forgot the one in Switzerland

      Jacqueline - 2011-12-11 18:38

      At least we're starting to win at something. Meant as a joke everyone so please don't hop onto your soap boxes to mount your high horses.

  • bernpm - 2011-12-11 15:45

    Why intervene?? So many people in SA are calling for the death penalty anyway. The Chinese will only be able to ask for some unrelated "exchange" issue, tying SA's hands in other negotiations.

  • Kate - 2011-12-11 15:48

    Zuma needs to sort his own country out before he intervenes in others. This women has committed a crime and will face the countries justice system, Sorry to say.

  • Yar - 2011-12-11 15:49

    I predict he will keep his mouth shut.

      bernpm - 2011-12-11 16:06

      no...just applying his mind a little longer, not unusual

  • christo.stone - 2011-12-11 15:53

    Well then...death penalty to Chinese rhino poachers and syndicates...

      Kate - 2011-12-11 16:14

      Well said Christo

      Ian - 2011-12-11 16:32

      hell yeah, cut there horns off

      Cracker - 2011-12-11 17:14

      Now you're talking! Swift - very swift - and without complications. No interference at all. As someone remarked a while ago on one of the forums, chain ball the horn thieves and put them between the mother rhinos and their babies. Let the cameras roll. For info of all.

      Hugh - 2011-12-11 17:49

      In SA she would have likely been given a job training government employees on the finer art of smuggling.The problem Christo is that a government that wishes to conserve its animals would in fact introduce such high penalty laws. Till today what changes has this government made to the animal proptection act, Zero. Anyway at least in China you suffer everyday in jail. In SA it would be inhumane. There are mnore laws protecting the criminal and workers than animals. o the guy that said that she was lucky to get the injection. Did you know that the Chinese consider non Chineses as filth? That is why her orgins will not be harvested as they would with a head shot.

      Device - 2011-12-11 21:51

      @Christo i don't think the execution of a chinese national in SA would have the same impact as this SA womens imminant execution in China. The Chinese would execute those rhino poachers if they could. their human rights record speaks for itself and with over 1 billion people the execution of one of them just would not resonante that much

      jeremy002 - 2011-12-12 06:57

      The Chinese will happliy agree to it.

      Monique - 2011-12-12 07:58

      Who's the freaking idiot giving thumbs down on this??

      christo.stone - 2011-12-12 12:23

      @Johnson well that might be true, the horns are sold to Chinese and Vietnamese syndicates...they are the main cause for the poaching.

  • Atholl - 2011-12-11 15:58

    Send Agliotti to China

  • mamoshianem1 - 2011-12-11 16:01

    Let China law take it' s place.I feel sorry for her.She was at the wrong place time,at the wrong time.Hard luck.

      Comrade - 2011-12-11 17:12

      wrong place - wrong time...let me guess, you vote ANC ???

  • d4zza - 2011-12-11 16:03

    Clearly Mokgalapa has no grasp of Chinese law. Drug smuggling is punishable by death in China and quite a few other countries in the world as well. And 3kg's of meth? That is pure smuggling, you don't just carry that much around on you. She knew the risks.

  • Penny - 2011-12-11 16:10

    while I dont condone drug smuggling, i need to ask whether this is'nt just another trumped up charge on a foreigner as it is a known fact that countries that have strict anti drug smuggling policies in place, have a quota system of offenders that they make examples of! Secondly why should Zuma plead this case when many(innocent) South African citizens abroad are kidnapped and our government fails them and their families by not negotiating their release. Currently there are three South Africans(poss more) held hostage in different parts of Africa and no intervention from government

      d4zza - 2011-12-11 16:16

      China's death penalty applies to amounts over 50g. She was WELL over that. It's not a trumped up charges, it's very much standard.

      sas.kloppers - 2011-12-11 19:57

      Oh come on! Wake up and SMELL pal!

  • jerry.pres - 2011-12-11 16:13

    I am sorry for that woman, but I am also sure, she knew what is law about drugs in China. She took risk with that in mind, so she must take full responsibility. Presidend shouldn't intervene.

  • Jonathon - 2011-12-11 16:16

    She shouldn't have been doing that sort of thing so its good because it sends a strong message but if we catch one of their vessels pouching in our ocean territory, our SA navy strike craft should have the right to destoy it, crew included.

  • Omnivore - 2011-12-11 16:20

    I hope the don't kill her but I wonder how many people would have ultimately died from the 3 kilo's of tik she was smuggling.

  • Nodali - 2011-12-11 16:28

    Doc-December Ithink SA should learn from countires like china, coz there a thousands of Nigerians smuggling drugs into our country but nothing is done about them they might even pay R2000 bribe or fine of R10-000.

      Tulani - 2011-12-11 20:38

      Men you are pure racist that i can see ,tell me if the chief police is a nigerian....why dont you think those plants in south america will be destroyed so that all this story will stop finally, dont be specific to certain tribe my boy!

  • Roy - 2011-12-11 16:40

    Why should anyone help any drug mule? She went over there smuggling drugs and should pay the penalty. These people know that if they are caught they will be punished but still they do it. Let the law take its course.

  • Errol - 2011-12-11 16:47

    Zuma will "sort something"!After all the ANC and Chinese government are big pals??Or are they??Having said that,I feel sorry for this woman,but,she should have known better!Pity SA dont have the death penalty........

      Alva - 2011-12-11 22:22

      People peddling drugs are scumbags. No excuse. One less drug peddler to worry about! Look and learn for anyone else thinking about peddling!

  • munyaradzi.ncube - 2011-12-11 16:54

    I dont agree with capital punishment. I believe punishment must be corrective and not to kill. Maybe only on extreme circumstances like murder.....

      JoaoFlickr - 2011-12-11 19:49

      @munyaradzi.ncube But the punishment in this instance is corrective. There is no doubt, her execution will have a strong corrective result on her never smuggling drugs again.

      Kevin - 2011-12-12 05:52

      Any violent or drug related crime or if the criminal has a weapon of any sorts on him should see him hanging . This way the scum who hurt and bully the good will fast disappear.

  • mxova2luv - 2011-12-11 16:55

    whatever they do to her, should be done to all the chinese rhino pouchers that are here in RSA.. nx..they must also face the same fate.

  • Elsie - 2011-12-11 16:59

    My plea is for President to try clean the street of South Africa of drugs, as one 1st become a user before being turned into a mule. As said as it is, not sure if the intervention will assist as a Phillipine National has just been executed despite his President's intervention. We need to stop being used by other nationals to carry their packages abroad, each and every individual is responsible for transporting that package to its last destination. Very sad story indeed, but i guess our country need to respect other countries rules as much as they do respect ours.

      sas.kloppers - 2011-12-11 19:58

      I'm with you 100% Elsie!

  • d4zza - 2011-12-11 17:01

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China#Execution_of_foreigners "The Chinese criminal code automatically stipulates a mandatory death sentence for smuggling heroin[14] in quantities more than 50 grams" Which also applies to other drugs. "a foreign ministry spokeswoman, Jiang Yu, said "we grant equal treatment for both domestic and foreign drug traffickers".[17]" As much as everyone feels for her and wants her to escape the death penalty, the law is the law.

  • jjmostert - 2011-12-11 17:10

    Just my 2cents worth.... Why must Mr Zuma jump in and save her butt? Think of how many people could have died on overdoses, that was part of that 3kg she smuggled? In my books, nobody smuggling or selling drugs are worth saving! She deserves what she is getting!

  • fargone - 2011-12-11 17:18

    Indeed there is some compassion and pity, BUT China has strict laws, she must have been aware of that. Had she been successful her payoff great. Perhaps to put this into perspective we need to ask ourselves what penalty we would want if a foreigner came into SA with 3kg of drugs that were going to be "pushed" to our kids. Part of the problem is we don't take into consideration the destroyed lives that drug abuse causes.

  • Clyde - 2011-12-11 17:32

    People involved in drug dealing cause so much heartbreak and pain,and are responsible for destroying so many young lives, and families.I wish we still had the death penalty in SA, so that the people caught here could be punished in the same way.

  • spookoctopus - 2011-12-11 17:34

    Second time around I commented on this. Ask yourself a question. If a referendum was held now right across the colour spectrum we would bring back the death penalty for wilful murder. Difference is the Chinese will not put up with it. I might add, that not so long ago the Mauritian government had a sign in the airport which read 'Smuggling drugs carries the death sentence on conviction,' That's a country where everything is 'No poblem' but its no to drugs. South Africans who think along the lines of anything goes, are soft. Every young child in this country is a mark for the drug barons now and in the future. This woman is not bringing the drugs into this country, but destined to pollute another, brought no doubt from drug barons here. A good guess would be Nigerian or Chinese. RIP

  • zahir786 - 2011-12-11 17:38

    Drugs Bring riches and Wealth to the Greedy, It brings DEATH , Poverty and Broken homes to the USER. She as a Mule knew Exactly what she was doing, SHe Broke Chinas law, SHE did it To make a Quick Buck! Why Should we feel sympathy for her or any one of those who is involved in such activity?? Oh im sorry, You had a good run you made thousands in your previous runs, Dont worry about the familys you have destroyed thay will get over it when their loved ones die from the product You were transporting,Its their fault for using it rite? So sorry lets try and get you out so you could ruin more lives. Bull^&** ! Thay are directly related to those Destroying OUR country as well as other country's for the Enrichment of themselves ! Kill her and show the world of Potential South Africa Drug mules a Lesson!

      sas.kloppers - 2011-12-11 19:59

      Thanks Zahir. Common sense speaks.....

      Pulverturm - 2011-12-12 09:50

      Actually, if you do a little investigating. She's been insistant on her innocence. She says the drugs were planted in her suitcase. If she had pleaded guilty, she would have got a life sentence, not the death penalty.

  • Hugh - 2011-12-11 17:40

    Sorry bad luck bloddy luck. You do the crime you do the time in this case death. Death to all drunk drivers and purveyors of hard drugs.

  • cecilhstephens - 2011-12-11 17:42

    How many lives has she already destroyed with her drug pushing.She knew the penalty before she went there, but chose to take a chance

  • Michael - 2011-12-11 17:45

    She should be shot in public, and this shouls apply to any other South African who gets involved in drugs

  • Milton Chinogwenya - 2011-12-11 17:54

    As an educator who once thought at a school where drugs make up half of their lunch, i think Ms.Linden got what she deserved. Drugs have made too many excellent educators leave the profession. Such chinese marshal laws must be passed here in S.A. Execution of Ms.Linden would save thousand lives out there.

      Vegi - 2011-12-11 18:36

      How callous of you!

      Jacqueline - 2011-12-11 19:04

      @Vegi: How is that callous? Have you seen the amount of children in SA addicted to Crystal Meth and Tik? Do you know what these children do to "score" some more drugs? Most girls turn to prostitution when they are barely teenagers, young boys become criminals, willing to murder someone for a few rand to buy some more drugs. You say Milton is callous, I say the drug dealers are callous and so is our government for not being more strict and harsh with drug related crimes. Having seen first hand what drugs do to a family, Ms Linden brought this on herself and there is no excuse or justification.

  • Col - 2011-12-11 18:11

    Unfortunately, in our wonderful country, crimes are a way of life. Our legal system is not up to the challenge of preventing or reducing crime. For this reason, criminals from other countries enter our borders to get a piece of the pie. South African criminals, who probably tend to "get away with murder" within our borders, tend to think that they can continue their crimes in other countries. Many of these other countries, do not take crime as lightly as SA. Some countries have legal systems that dish out overly harsh sentences and other countries have legal systems that dish out extremely light sentences (SA is one of the latter). Perhaps one day, a balance will be found.

      tshepang.sesinye - 2011-12-12 12:56

      true to that, maybe one day they"ll wake up and do something, but I dont see that coming soon, it will be after a very big damage.

  • Shoe - 2011-12-11 18:12

    Stevens should just stop wasting his breath. Also, to say Zuma is standing by idly is a lie. Zuma has 5 women, 22 children, and 50 million people on any given time of day to think about. The dude's busy.

  • Ricky - 2011-12-11 18:32

    The usual gang of idiots on News24 - foaming at the mouth for the death penalty. The more vicious and inhumanely executed - the better! Do you for one moment believe that a woman like this goes to China out of her own free will and hides kilograms of narcotics in her luggage. People with other options don't do this kind of thing. People who behave badly aren't always bad people - and addiction is a disease that some people are predisposed to (just like alcoholism). Do we execute and imprison alcoholics? It's not a choice as many of the "swart skoentjie" conservatives on here would argue. China rapes the world and it's resources and gets away scott free, yet wants to execute everyone that might infringe on it's monopolies and profits. We're living in a crazy world, and the users commenting that she should be executed should take a moment to reflect on the fact that their own daughters have most likely experimented with narcotics at some stage in their lives. Punish her and get her the medical help she needs to overcome her dependency, but would you still be so righteous and judgmental if it was your daughter sitting in a Chinese jail cell and told she'll be executed later today?

      JoaoFlickr - 2011-12-11 20:16

      @Ricky You are of course 100% right. It's just that the economy, which is trying to run the planet earth, is not strong enough to fund one person twice, so to speak. Earth can only spend a certain amount of money on one specific person once (from cradle to adulthood), and then a very small sum of money anyway. Then that person has to fund him/herself. And taking drugs makes you dependent on other people and the government. I suppose this is where most of the people who support the death penalty come from.

      Alva - 2011-12-11 22:19

      Oh Please! Do the crime, pay the penalty!

      Ricky - 2011-12-11 23:50

      @Joao: So it all comes down to figures? If so...Let's abort the second babies and execute the tens of millions of women who refuse to abstain and produce children who rely on state welfare then as well, shall we? I don't see a pattern emerging where they're even trying to start funding themselves. Not all addicts become burdens on the government, and those who do can be successfully rehabilitated to become productive members of society again.

      jeremy002 - 2011-12-12 07:07

      Total tripe Ricky. Unadulterated nonsense. Her only dependance is most likely the money.

  • Vegi - 2011-12-11 18:33

    Drug peddling is actually the mother/father of most evils. Any government worth the ballot paper on which it was elected should act drastically on anyone selling drugs. Most horrendous crimes are committed under the influence of these evil substances. Having said the above, I am violently opposed to the death penalty for two reasons: Firstly it is not a punishment. People shoot, hang, poison or even lethally inject themselves almost every minute world wide. Secondly, it is most barbaric and stupid and irreversible to accommodate the possibility of errors. Only vindictive idiotic governments believe in this mediaval form of supposed punishment. If this girl is really guilty, taking into account the shoddy Chinese justice system, she should suffer for life in labour camps which are found in abundance in china.

  • Henri James Christie - 2011-12-11 18:42

    If you don't respect a country's law, you pay the price. We don't have a law abiding culture but don't try and enforce that on other countries

  • cobusrsms - 2011-12-11 18:45

    Well done China! For all the lives of children that are destroyed willingly by selling drugs!!

  • francisenrudi - 2011-12-11 19:01

    well if you smuggle with drugs take what come to you

  • francisenrudi - 2011-12-11 19:02

    i just dont feel sorry for her

  • carolyn.dewrance - 2011-12-11 19:02

    Do the crime then dont complain if you have to do the time, even the death sentence, Stupid woman who does she think she is, Even if she was my daughter and got caught doing what she did I would have no sympathy for her.

      Ricky - 2011-12-11 19:25

      What an embittered. jaded comment. I feel sorry for you. And your kids, if you have any.

      Paulus Gerber - 2011-12-11 22:05

      @Carolyn I don't think u know what u r talkin about. R u a piece of rock yikes I'm glad I'm no family of u

      tshepang.sesinye - 2011-12-12 13:07

      @ Carolyn, is jy maal of wat, het jy kinders? Ek dink nie soo nie. Jy praat net twaak.

      Vuyiseka - 2011-12-12 14:40

      you know what my sister the bible says we must feel the pain for each other we all know that what she did is wrong ,but now lets just focus and pray for that not happen again only god that must come to the minds of the other smugglers no to do it.

  • jacoct - 2011-12-11 19:07

    I know what she did was wrong, but really. To act the same way, we should execute people from China caught slaughtering RHINO’S

  • Victor - 2011-12-11 19:12

    Why. That is a good sentence for drug smugglers.

  • Donald - 2011-12-11 19:18

    Most of our comments here would be very different if Janice was your mother, sister, wife, friend, etc. You would be hoping for a last minute attempt to save her life. We are quick to condemn and slow to forgive. Yes she transgressed the law, but let's also get off our high horses

      sas.kloppers - 2011-12-11 20:00

      ..........oh bollox Donald!

      Alva - 2011-12-11 22:28

      Thank goodness I am not related to this drug peddler and if I were, I would still find the sentence appropriate!

      Ricky - 2011-12-11 23:32

      Life with your outlook would be a slow and painful death sentence anyways.

  • Manie - 2011-12-11 19:24

    I really get what most of you are saying. But I cannot believe that this is the right thing to do! Yes she did something wrong and if she did not get caught it could have had bad implications for people in South Africa. But she is still a human being and she does not deserve to die especially not by the hands of those communists. She should be sent back to South Africa and face the consequences here. I know that a lot of you will now say that our country is to lenient on drug crimes but I say executing her is to harsh!

      tshepang.sesinye - 2011-12-12 13:11

      What happened in China, let it END in China, why must she come to SA?

  • lynette.hugo - 2011-12-11 19:25

    Why she new what she was doing.

  • sas.kloppers - 2011-12-11 19:52

    Nope. She should be executed. The world is better place without drug dealers and traffickers.

  • edna.boonzaaier - 2011-12-11 20:01

    I wish our government will be that strict. Another thing; maybe she's used by greater group and they come out scot-free.

      tshepang.sesinye - 2011-12-12 13:12

      Is true Edna, maybe there are big cats behind this, we wont know.

  • Juan - 2011-12-11 20:03

    Zuma is an international laughing stock, especially for the Chinese. I doubt they would take him seriously

  • Louwellen - 2011-12-11 20:09

    Ek hoop rerig hulle martel haar eers voor hulle haar baie stadig vrek maak! Sy verdien om te vrek! ons president moet miskien die voorbeeld volg dan sal hy baie minder proebleme in die land he...

  • Navin - 2011-12-11 20:15

    I N.R.B. one that has fought for this country, for Mandela, If this woman will die and our GOVERNMENT, YES Jacob Zuma cannot help, how will he ever help us. By the way she is from your place. I don't know her but she is my sister. Are you really our PROTECTOR? This is your chance to prove yourself as A MAN AND as A PRESIDENT. SHUP

      tshepang.sesinye - 2011-12-12 13:22

      So Navin you want our president to protect drug pushers, you are your own protector, if you dis-obey the law more especially other countries, this is what you will get, JUST TRY IT, you will see. China is China not SA where criminals goes free after commiting serious offences. President JZ is not CHUCK NORRIS he has no power over CHINA niks.Yes she is our sister, but the stuff she was found with, was or it kills her fellow brothers and siters or the entire nation, Mhmmm, How about that one, did you give yourself enough time to think of what exactly this stuff does to our brothers and sisters, including her, hahahaha, Im not laughing, Let our President do his duties as a PRESIDENT, he has too mush in his plate, realting to our country and not to have sleepless nights trying to save DRUG PUSHERS.

  • Jim - 2011-12-11 20:36

    Anyone who believes that JZ has any influence in the real world is dislusional, countries like China will etc will plunder Africa's natural resources as the european colionialists did, .....why....because Africans connot be bothered to get off their backsides and develop their economies, it's always, always, always, someone elses fault. End result is they spend their lives playing the victim and sponging off the so called persecutors. Right so lets nationilise everything!!!