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SA won't take stance on Libya

2011-02-23 13:35

Cape Town - The South African government has called for a peaceful resolution to the crisis in Libya but on Wednesday stopped short of telling Muammar Gaddafi to step down.

Hundreds of people have been killed in a brutal crackdown as Gaddafi’s government sought to crush a massive protest against his regime.

Opposition groups in the country have put the death toll at 560 while the defiant president of 40 years on Tuesday night threatened to purge Libya "house by house" and "inch by inch" to quell dissent.

In the live speech, the 68-year-old former army colonel said: "Muammar Gaddafi is the leader of a revolution; Muammar Gaddafi has no official position in order for him to resign. He is the leader of the revolution forever."

The department of international relations and co-operation’s Clayson Monyela said that “it is the policy [of the] South African government not to dictate policy to a sovereign country”.

‘Authors of their own destiny’


When asked what the government’s stance was on the Libyan regime’s vicious suppression of its people, Monyela would only say: “The South African government condemns violence [and] calls for restraint.”

When asked if the government, like EU nations, was considering sanctions against the north African country, Monyela simply said that “people should be the authors of their own destiny” and repeated his statement that “South Africa does not dictate policy to sovereign countries”.

Meanwhile, it said that it was trying to secure the safe return of South African citizens to its shores. It said its main concern was two women who were stuck in transit from Dubai. Their passports had been taken away by their airline and the hotel they were at wanted to “kick out all the guests”, Monyela said.

Luckily, authorities managed to negotiate with staff to keep the hotel open.

He said that while the department is trying to bring citizens home, the safest place for them to be now is at the South African embassy. Officials there will advise them on what to do.

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Comments
  • stephen.cole1 - 2011-02-23 13:49

    Well you would not expect that from the ANC government now would you ? Gaddafi's their big mate ! They all sing from the same hymn book !

      b.mackenzie - 2011-02-23 13:52

      Probably not the same hymn book, but I understand what you are saying.

      qaqamba - 2011-02-23 14:56

      What pisses me off is that Gaddafi has trade deals with EU states the US and so on, just like the ANC and yet they have ALL condemned Gaddafi! One would think that the ANC would take a clear stand after what South Africa has been through in the past under the apartheid gov. The fact is, Gaddafi's ministers have all resigned to support the protesters. SA will have no mates in Libya because Gaddafi will be gone. What do they REALLY have to lose if they condemn Gaddafi?

  • Chops - 2011-02-23 13:49

    SA always the fence sitter. First Zim, then Ivory Coast, now Libya. Our govermnent has no guts to speak out against these despots and for the common people

      Sho Fukamachi - 2011-02-23 15:51

      That is because our government is just as guilty as they are, and if any other government would tell the ANC to f* off and step down, they'll simply wipe their arses on it. Get rid of the ANC, get rid of the CANCER, get rid of CORRUPTION, get rid of RACISM, get rid of the WHITE GENOCIDE. Get rid of everything synonymous with ANC!!!! VIVA prosperity, VIVA life!!!

      640201 - 2011-02-23 17:44

      Don't forget China. ANC government didn't have the chance to sit on the fence with the '89 Tienanmen massacre, but am pretty sure if ANC was in power then, they would have sat on the fence. Denying Dala Lama and the human right abuses in China runs contracditory to ANC's struggle.

      Jaimo - 2011-02-24 07:28

      Ya! Because tey've all got their hands deep in the cookie jar! (But there is a God in Heaven . .)

  • Leonard - 2011-02-23 13:50

    wtf?

  • Grant - 2011-02-23 13:50

    The gov. won't commit!! Will it be left to the ANCYL to claim the credit, that, as in Egypt, this is again a 'result' for their youth fest?

      Smaal - 2011-02-23 13:53

      Bwaaaa-ha-ha-ha...

  • stephen.cole1 - 2011-02-23 13:51

    The ANC have more than likely got a nice big house ready for him in Houton Johannesburg !

      Snoopy88 - 2011-02-24 14:30

      And we're going to pay for it again!

  • VM1 - 2011-02-23 13:51

    Lybians must solve their problems - SA cannot be called in as big brother to these issues. What happend to USA in Somalia serves a a sore reminder to these conflicts. USA went in to keep the peace and fight Farrah Aideed then the Somalians united against their "Liberators" we all know what happend afterwards. ... very hasty retreat and great embarrasment.

      Fanie - 2011-02-23 13:57

      They don't have to intervene - but just take a stance for crying out loud -

      lldoidge - 2011-02-23 14:00

      Then they should have kept their mouths shut on Egypt!

      stephen.cole1 - 2011-02-23 14:02

      If they 1oz of human rights in them they would condone the State of Gaddafi !

      WillF - 2011-02-23 14:06

      Why do people think that condemning something is trying to solve their problem? If their is murder you condemn it - ewven if your brother commited the murder. They are absolute poodles and have just wet the floor and now do not know what to do. Especially after wining and dining with this tyrant dictator.

      Bryan - 2011-02-23 16:12

      Yes, but the USA lost 19 soldiers who effected a kill ratio of 52.63 Somalis to 1 - that's still reasonable odds and a damn good job considering US troops were carrying second-rate ammo at the time! US Forces were also sent in at a time that they did not designate, and this was not their choice. So don't be so quick to think it was that great an "@ss kicking".

      Andy49 - 2011-02-23 19:14

      @ stephen.cole1 - I think you meant condemn & not condone, right?

  • Brandon96end - 2011-02-23 13:53

    Bunch of hooligans, the Libyan government too.

  • Fanie - 2011-02-23 13:54

    They better wake up - all their buddies are circling the drain

      Snoopy88 - 2011-02-24 14:33

      LMAO!! So succinctly put...

  • AJ - 2011-02-23 13:56

    "“it is the policy [of the] South African government not to dictate policy to a sovereign country”. Unless it is Israel, the US or various Western countries, then they can be very vocal. Morons.

      aaron - 2011-02-23 14:00

      yes, that because Isreal is racist state like aparthied south Africa

      waynet59 - 2011-02-23 14:25

      aaron south africa is right now a racist state.Decisions are made based on color.That is racist!

      Wolff - 2011-02-23 17:01

      @Aaron ......South Africa is more racially divided than they were under the previous government. If I look at the way you spell you were probably one of those guys who believed that "liberation comes before education"

      Andy49 - 2011-02-23 19:16

      @aaron - Israel is only racist to those who want to believe it is.

      Great White - 2011-02-23 19:17

      Aaron, the goats need herding.

      Snoopy88 - 2011-02-24 14:46

      Didn't all the disputed areas come into Israel's hands fair and square after a war that the Arabs started? Just saying... no point crying 'racist' if you get punched in the mouth during a fight of your own making.

  • sbouttell - 2011-02-23 13:58

    Yep. Because that's what we do best. Watch people get slaughtered in the streets, and do nothing. Ironic, considering that we are now a "free" country because of international pressure. Had the rest of the world sat idley by during apartheid, we could possibly still be living with a regime controling our voices and actions.

  • lldoidge - 2011-02-23 13:59

    HYPOCRATES!!!!!! What is good for Egypt is good for Libyia!

      Shistirrer - 2011-02-23 14:12

      Uhhhh... what? You want us to send doctors there, or swear an oath, or say "First do no harm"?

      Will2.0 - 2011-02-23 14:52

      And what exactly did we do for Egypt? (Except of course the youth festival that apparently started it all;))

      lldoidge - 2011-02-23 15:07

      SA urged Mabark to step down and respect the will of the people. I'm waiting to hear to same said about gadaffi!

  • Gandalf - 2011-02-23 14:00

    Yeah, no surprise. Our government lacks the balls to speak out against any of their old cronies. Our time on the security council was a complete embarrassment, and we keep treading the same old cowardly path. What a pity Zuma didn't get chased out of the Ivory Coast - yet another example of us supporting a thug who lost the elections and should have been tossed out.

  • WillF - 2011-02-23 14:03

    It's not a case of trying to solve their problems - it's a case of stating for the world, for your own people exactly where you stand in dealing with dictatorships and unfair regimes. Imagine if the world told those fighting the racist regime in SA that they must go and fighttheir own battle? I must say Iam really confused and bewildered how they requested interference where it suits them. They are clearly little poodles in world politics and simply wee on the spot if someone makes a noise.

  • orakle123 - 2011-02-23 14:05

    Typical "liberation" movement talk. Never interfere with fellow dictators business. The ANC are next!!!!! Watch out you scum, the day is coming for our revolution!

  • spindoctor - 2011-02-23 14:06

    What do you expect from the ANC.They are misguided in foreign policy and always run with the dogs and get fleas.

  • ArVee - 2011-02-23 14:06

    Of course they won't take a stand on Libya, then they'd have to take a stand on Zimbabwe and the Ivory Coast, instead of just collecting air miles on pointless "diplomatic missions". Spineless. Have they forgotten about all those who took a stand when SA suffered under apartheid?

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-02-23 14:09

    Murder is murder, & if you condemn that then you condemn murderers like Gaddafi. Thanx 4 Another Nonsensical Comment.

  • Eric West - 2011-02-23 14:11

    Birds (terrorists) of a feather, flock together?

  • ArVee - 2011-02-23 14:21

    Of course they won't take a stand on Libya, then they'd have to take a stand on Zimbabwe and the Ivory Coast, instead of just collecting air miles on pointless "diplomatic missions". Spineless. Have they forgotten about all those who took a stand when SA suffered under apartheid?

  • waynet59 - 2011-02-23 14:30

    This just highlights the spineless ,gutless leaders we have.They do not have accountability to the people ,only the party, hence they do nothing to ever get a problem sorted out.Zim,Ivory Coast,Egypt,Congo ,you name a place where they have actually been effective.

  • Ben - 2011-02-23 14:32

    Pity this isn't Israel. Then they would be sure to open their big stupid mouths

  • Stinkhout - 2011-02-23 14:38

    If I was the ANC I would not abandon my trusted comrade. No, I would offer him refuge on Robyn Island, for him and his family. Let him use one of our many submarines to go on clandestine shopping trips at the waterfront and make the island a tax free haven. We can also accommodate, Bob, Mubarak, and the other dictator comrades currently living in Waterkloof Riff. We can rename Robyn Island to Robyn Australia based on the original idea of storage place for convicts. It can become a major tourist and guided missile attraction. And we can watch the population explosion from the waterfront every time a new comrade is welcomed. Why can’t the ANC figure these brilliant solutions out for themselves? Why do we have to spoon-feed them?

      Melly30 - 2011-02-23 14:51

      LOL

      Andy49 - 2011-02-23 19:19

      we can rename it Robbers Island.

  • Allin - 2011-02-23 14:43

    Gutless ANC

      Melly30 - 2011-02-23 14:50

      They are all the same, I bet they are big buddies... Going to run this country and all neighbouring countries into the ground!!!!

  • callan - 2011-02-23 14:52

    "....people should be the authors of their own destiny...."??? Is this what the ANC asked of the International Community during the struggle against apartheid??? I think not!! Hypocrites!!!

  • Ian - 2011-02-23 14:55

    Because their gutless!

  • marco - 2011-02-23 15:13

    So many idiots on News24 that have all the ****ing answers to Libya and the wider Middle East nations.The go ANC this ANC that,South Africa this South Africa that with all kinds of K@K comments.Bring your solution to the table then if you so rightly criticizes South Africa's stance on the matter,spit it out what you would boldly do in the Arab World you useless wankers so South Africa or the ANC can follow your "wiseass" suggestions.Come on then do it.None of the 5 nation security councel of the UN or the 27 member states European Union have even said anything yet on how to go about dealing with Libya or any other troubled region and here you ****ers on News24 are slamming your democratic government of fence sitting K@K.For ****sake what the hell is the matter with you idiots South Africans.Most if not all these North African and Arab regimes of the Middle East are autocratic and authoritarian governments not democracies.The closest you'll get to a western style democracy in the Middle East is The State of Kuwait which has a parliamentary system of government,but still autocratic in many respects and America,Britain and France sees it as a major non-NATO ally that has OIL.It has the world's fifth largest oil reserves and petroleum products.Nobody including your government is condoning these pro-Gadhafi murderous Libyan thugs security forces use of lethal force against peaceful demonstrators.Everybody is waiting for the EU and the UN to impose an emergency 'no-fly zone' over Libya in order to prevent the brutal regime from launching any further aerial attacks against his own people.Gaddafi has always been a ruthless,totalitarian,and brutal ruler and his reaction to the protests shows he has not mellowed with age.

      BlackPrince - 2011-02-23 15:20

      Right Marco, you are absolutely right

      Susan Miller - 2011-02-23 15:41

      At least other countries look after their own and try to evacuate them. What has SA done? Why are they not evacuating SA citizens?

      marco - 2011-02-23 16:33

      @Susan Miller do you work in your country,South Africa's,foreign office hey tell me that you paddavoete wanna be wiseass idiot.How the **** do you know they not doing something about that allready in this "massive evacuation scramble"in Libya as REUTERS News Agency calls it.There is very poor communication and growing violence everywhere you look amid fears of a full-scale civil war in Libya,so cut you government some slack in doing what it can amid all the K@K you talk and what's actually going on in LIBYA as regards to South Afrian nationals living there.Have you even for once stop to consider the logistical challenges posed by this as tens of thousands of migrants are trapped in Libya.Even some European planes have not yet received the necessary permission to land in Tripoli so where does that leave South Africa.Grow up you moron and don't just blurt out any old K@K from the comforts of your home or office.

      marco - 2011-02-23 18:21

      @Stinkhout I'll say the same thing to you,you strong smelly "Ocotea bullata" as I did to the other idiot Bryan and that you a you dim-witted,moronic,feebleminded,cornfed,humdrum,dull as dishwater,unimaginative,unoriginal,platitudinous,insipid "white" trash-can-talking South African.All you people have in common writing in on News24 is your abject bitterness towards the existing system of government in South Africa you can't change.You can change the ruling party,the ANC,which I very much doubt will ever happen,but you can't change your country from being a Democracy to what it was before 1994 or to anything else as democracy rule is the only government recognized as the best by the West.Your country's democracy is not America's,not Britain's,not France or the rest of the EU hell not even India's or Australia's.So you got to live with it or change which party rules it or move out from living under it,if you can't take it.Not bitch about it on a news forum with other readers on here with your of the wall post.As the great Winston Churchill once said on 11 November 1947 in a speech in the House of Commons:" No one pretends that democracy(SOUTH AFRICA'S included)is perfect or all-wise.Indeed,it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.South Africa's democracy is not a perfect system,but it is the best form of government in your country when compared to others and is the most effective among all different types of government in Africa.

      marco - 2011-02-23 19:13

      @Bryan I do love it when I get under the skin of people like you.Temper temper mate you about to explode.There is a Psychiatric Facility for Bipolar Symptoms of and Neurobehavioral for Bad Tempers just down the road from you so go and have yourself checked over please you poep***. Watch out mate you boiling over one can even see the fire and Apartheid Era brimstone from yesteryear pre 1994 coming out of your ears and a**e.Cool down son you behaving very badly you terrorist.Speaking of Terrorist you c**t haven't you ever watched the movie "The Sum Of All Fears" a movie about the machinations of war and the way panic can escalate through misinformation.In it was a shady "White" South African arms dealer played by Colm Feore that was the terrorist not the ANC.Here from the movie:"A question...What's a South African doing in the Ukraine with three Russian scientists and a crate from Israel?It sounds just like a Christmas cracker riddle,only the answer isn't very funny they're building a nuclear bomb".I'm sure you know all about the Vela Incident on Sept,22,1979 a nuclear weapons incident in which by popular public opinion South Africa is the most likely candidate for responsibility.It was on your ancestors that this prohibition took place "The United Nations Security Council Resolution 418 of 4 November 1977 introduced a mandatory arms embargo against South Africa,which also required all states to refrain from "any co-operation with South Africa in the manufacture and development of nuclear weapons".If anything it seems you the ****ing terrorist not the ANC you c**t.

      Andy49 - 2011-02-23 19:23

      marco - Polo, marco - Polo, marco - Polo, marco - Polo.

      marco - 2011-02-23 22:25

      @Izak Kruger you and your niece Susan has got issues with your government to sort out that's got nothing to do with me or with my comments I've posted.She said something in reply to what I posted like most white people from your country instinctively does and that's to crucify your government by pulling the stiff one-eye on the "ANC don't give a **** attitude towards white Honkies" everytime something goes horribly wrong and your government takes the plunge for it.I'm a white American ruled by a black dude and have no real issues with him except with our economy,healthcare reforms,can't find jobs for local people and his failed,ultra-right wing "free market" ideology to name but a few.I don't turn up though like you folks do and go and say see that's what happens when black person runs the country or something to that effect.Race is not a problem for the majority of Americans that's why the guy is in office where we of the 310,232,863million, 79.96% of that population are white people and only 39,864,922.9million or 12.85% are black and that's what's so great about our Democracy.You guys I don't know Apartheid didn't work for your country and you can't go back to it either to make things any better for your race.I mean how much worse can it get living the way you do now under this government?Seriously.As for Gaddafi US President Ronald Reagan was right when he called the bastard “the mad dog of the Middle East” and I agree fully with that.

      marco - 2011-02-23 23:19

      @Bryan You a sick **** that's all I'm gonna say to you sir.I don't know what your parents ever did to you whilst you was growing up or what the environment was like where you grew up,but sir seriously honestly you sick.You an ugly embarrassment to your own people the way you talk,reason and presenting yourself on this forum.

      141mat - 2011-03-01 16:30

      Wow marko seems like you really know so much about this country of ours. Hmmmmm, come try and stay here for a while and see what happens and how you feel then. And please dude, do not compare the USA with RSA, its like comparing a BMW M3 to a Mazda 323, not going to work. Your logic is flawed because of the social dynamics of both our countries. And please also do not talk about past sins, we both know that both our countries have done our fare share. And another thing i do not know one white person in this place that wants what used to be. We realized that it will not work, we just want someone that cares for the people and does less for himself and his friends... But anyways, something i wanted to ask, how do you know the word K@K???

  • BlackPrince - 2011-02-23 15:17

    At long last, i was wondering where is the SA Government regarding this issue, of course Gaddafi has to step down and stop killing innocent people like what Hiltler did to the Jews or what Tzar Nicholas II of Russia once did during the Russian Revolution

      Norman - 2011-02-23 16:32

      And what about the 20 million people that were killed under communist rule in Russia?

  • Joann - 2011-02-23 15:22

    I wonder how many people have to die in order for someone to help them? Sounds like another Zim. Evil never dies it seems...

  • Barry M - 2011-02-23 15:27

    Typical ANC - spineless to the last ANC jellyfish - have'nt got the balls to go against their old mates - the raving mad gadaffi and mugabe (note the use of lowercase letters - a sign of personal contempt) - same goes for zuma and mal-enema!

      lldoidge - 2011-02-23 16:42

      Who would fill the ANC coffers if gadaffi left?

  • Susan Miller - 2011-02-23 15:33

    "Meanwhile, it said that it was trying to secure the safe return of South African citizens to its shores."...what a load of BS. My mom and some other South Africans work as medical professionals in Libya. We applied a lot of pressure on SA to evacuate it citizens like all the other countries. One comment received from the SA Embassy was “there is no problem in Tripoli”. Later on the SA Embassy called my mother in Tripoli and said all they can do for her is to have her stay at the SA Embassy in Libya as they should be save there. My mom got angry and asked why are they not being evacuated and the reply was; “Mam, to be honest, the SA government has not given us any orders to evacuate its people”. In the meantime they could hear the bombings in Tripoli by the Libyan Air Force. So, just how hard were they trying to secure the safe return of South African citizens? I want to thank the French Embassy and Denos Health Management (in France) for evacuating my mom and a handful of other South Africans in the very early hours of this morning.

      Bryan - 2011-02-23 16:26

      It takes foreign nations to rescue South Africans, because the ANC is too busy spending the money that it would to charter an aircraft or to rescue its Citizens on the orgy party they are planning for the weekend, for when Gaddafi arrives here secretly to celebrate his success in killing his own people, as the ANC have been doing here for almost 2-decades. Glad to hear that your mom is safe, that is good news!

  • Susan Miller - 2011-02-23 15:42

    "Meanwhile, it said that it was trying to secure the safe return of South African citizens to its shores."...what a load of BS. My mom and some other South Africans work as medical professionals in Libya. We applied a lot of pressure on SA to evacuate it citizens like all the other countries. One comment received from the SA Embassy was “there is no problem in Tripoli”. Later on the SA Embassy called my mother in Tripoli and said all they can do for her is to have her stay at the SA Embassy in Libya as they should be save there. My mom got angry and asked why are they not being evacuated and the reply was; “Mam, to be honest, the SA government has not given us any orders to evacuate its people”. In the meantime they could hear the bombings in Tripoli by the Libyan Air Force. So, just how hard were they trying to secure the safe return of South African citizens? I want to thank the French Embassy and Denos Health Management (in France) for evacuating my mom and a handful of other South Africans in the very early hours of this morning.

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-02-23 15:44

    Maybe they are waiting for a power sharing agreement ????

  • The Patriot - 2011-02-23 15:49

    Monyela, the ANC are two bit cowards! It was fine for you to get the world to condemn a SA White regime to suit your agenda but now you fail to condemn a tyrant? What sovereign country are you idiot lying idiots talking about? A 41 year dictator now bent on killing his opposition? your day is coming and I cannot wait.

  • walla - 2011-02-23 15:50

    PLEASE SPREAD THIS Here is an idea.... Get South Africa to change its policy by getting the Libyan Ambassador to resign, and thus leaving South Africa with even Libya's diplomatic mission to South Africa rejecting Gaddafi. South Africa would thus be pushed to possibly engage in dialogue with the Libyan ambassador that has resigned, as other countries are doing. Gaddafis stay in power and violent repression, is in part still being aided by his good standing in the international community, and his many friends (like South Africa). International opinion is swiftly changing in favour of the Libyan people over Ghadafi, many Libyan diplomats (around ten already including Ambassadors to the UN, Arab League and the US) have resigned from the regime, renounced Ghadafi and the violence. If we can persuade the Libyan Ambassador to South Africa to resign, this may help to affect a change in SOuth Africa's reaction to the situation. We as South Africans can help by calling on the Libyan Ambassador, His Excellency Dr. A Alzubedi to renounce the violence, renounce Gadafi and declares he no longer represents Gadafi but rather, the Libyan people. You can do this by faxing, emailing or phoning the embassy of Libya in South Africa I have attached a sample letter below, which you can cut and paste and use. The contact details are below: Embassy of the People's Bureau of the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya Ambassador H E Dr A A Alzubedi Tel: 012 342 3902 Fax: 012 342 3904 libyasa@telkomsa.net Please bear in mind. You should be polite to the Ambassador as we want to sway his opinion. Address him as Your Excellency, or His Excellency in the third person. If you phone, you will not be put through t o the ambassador, but rather his PA, who was very polite to me. Try your best to speak to the ambassador and to relay messages to him, but if this fails, please also try convince the PA of the terrible situation in Libya and his obligation to convince the ambassador. I hope you can all help, its just a simple call, email or fax. Please also forward these instructions (pastehtml.com/view/1dcgas0.rtxt) to others if you can, copy it forward it, post it on other posts and share it on facebook abnd twitter. Kind regards, Alex Comninos Your Excellency Ambassador Al Zubedi I am writing in my personal capacity as a fellow and concerned African to ask that you try to do all you can to end the current death and suffering of your great and brave people. Gaddafi's forces and his hired mercenaries have killed between 233 and 500 peaceful protestors. They are being fired upon with heavy weapons and being bombed from aeroplanes. I kindly ask that you do the right think and follow what many of your fellow diplomats have done by renouncing Gaddafi, calling for an immediate end to the violence, and declaring that you no longer represent him, but rather the Libyan people. The Libyan people need you to do this now. And History, Allah, your people and the world are watching. Please, in addition to renouncing the violence and calling for Ghadaffi to step down, contact the UN, African Union, South African and Egyptian governments and ask for help in achieving these objectives by asking them to renounce the violence and call on Gaddafi to step down. I sincerely hope that you are a good man, and will follow in suit of your brave people, as well as many other brave diplomats who have also followed this course of action. Sincere regards,

  • Mogotsi98 - 2011-02-23 15:55

    SA is officially a Rogue State. At the right price, the ANC will allow Gaddafi to see out his days hiding in SA...and the tax man will pay for it! Money talks...and at the right price, they would sell your soul if they could.

  • Mogotsi98 - 2011-02-23 15:59

    SA is officially a Rogue State. At the right price, the ANC will allow Gaddafi to see out his days hiding in SA...and the tax man will pay for it! Money talks...and at the right price, they would sell your soul if they could.

      Bryan - 2011-02-23 16:30

      You are correct in most respect, however it is not the Tax man but the taxpayer who will pay to harbour this terrorist, where he will safe amongst his comrades!

  • donavon.frost - 2011-02-23 16:00

    Eh, wi da peipel of ANC heven gowt a stants!

  • chileaan - 2011-02-23 16:27

    I feel Truly blessed South Africa is such a beautiful country in Africa, And I agree with the Government a peaceful resolution is best.

      lldoidge - 2011-02-23 16:45

      Don't tell us that, tell it to gadaffi!

  • Hardtalk - 2011-02-23 16:38

    The South African government “people should be the authors of their own destiny” what else would you expect from a corrupt ANC. Birds of a feather flock together - take a good look ANC you are next

  • GhengisKhan - 2011-02-23 16:39

    They will never in 1000 years condem Gadaffi - Gadaffi rewards friendship with cash............and that is easier than stealing from the SA taxpayer

  • Wolff - 2011-02-23 16:57

    No they don't dictate policy unless it's concerning Israel.

  • HolyMan - 2011-02-23 18:06

    Why should this governmant, Gaddafi's like a god to them.

      Snoopy88 - 2011-02-24 14:51

      wassn't he head of the AU not too long ago?

  • dracqlore - 2011-02-24 07:36

    @Marco, Your arguements would have been sound if it was not for your blatant name calling and degrading of people. I will be the first to say that South Africans have never had the freedoms they have now as the old apartheid goverment was as repressive as any other Africa dicatorship that has ever exsisted. You can not compare America with South Africa in any way and here is why. In the US the Majority sup[ports the minority with taxes. You are a fool if you're not seeing the plight of the black man in the US they carry the same labels as any other black person in the world. In South Africa the reverse is true the minorty pays taxes through their teeth to keep the majority going. This is unfortuantly the a massive failure on the current goverment's behalf and truth be told its on purpose because if every South African was middle class who would work in the mines? You are aware that it is the key economic driver of South Africa. Please don't compare us to the US in any shape or form and in addition we are still the only country on the planet that willingly dismantled our nuclear weapons program what have you guys done about yours? Still pointing to the USSR? North Korea? How long will you still oppress the Afghani's and the Iraq's? There is a very old biblical saying that I urge you to take to heart. "Remove the beam from your own eye before you remove the splinter from your brother's" With all its faults South Africa will be just fine and I agree with you on that.

  • Ash.187 - 2011-02-24 10:21

    They can take a stance against western countries but cant do so against thsi dude? cumon fellas, oppression was oppreession, murder was murder, genocide was genicide, no matter who commits em! ANC gov, are u impartial or ass-kissers?

  • Snoopy88 - 2011-02-24 14:29

    Useless! like waving your hanky at a charging elephant bull. But then they couldn't do the honourable thing with Mugabe either. Nobody is suppose to rule for life... That is not democracy! The so-called liberators always become the opressors.

      Snoopy88 - 2011-02-24 14:50

      And just watch, they fence sitting now but when Gadaffi gets toppled old Showerhead is going to announce 'Good job' to the world and pat them on the back... pathetic!

  • avocadoproducts - 2011-03-01 15:45

    well it's clear If THE SA GOVERNMENT IS NOT AGAINST THE LIBIAN REGIME THEY ARE SURELY FOR THEM!!!!

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