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SACP concerned about Zuma attacks

2011-12-19 20:41

Durban - The KwaZulu-Natal SA Communist Party (SACP) is concerned about sustained attacks on President Jacob Zuma.

"We would like to engage with the ANC - something needs to be done to stop such behaviour. We can no longer tolerate and sit on the sidelines while our president is being ridiculed," provincial secretary Themba Mthembu said on Monday.

The Sunday Times reported that suspended ANC Youth League president Julius Malema joined in songs that ridiculed Zuma at the ANC's Limpopo conference -labelling him the "shower man".

Supporters of Malema ally, Limpopo premier Cassel Mathale, sang "showara wa re sokodisa" - meaning 'the shower man is giving us a hard time'.

Malema sat on stage and "fervently joined in the singing, holding his hand over his head to symbolise a shower head" the newspaper reported.

Condemned

The song was in reference to Zuma's 2006 rape trial in which he told the Johannesburg High Court that he had a shower after having unprotected sex with his HIV-positive accuser. Zuma was acquitted.

"The behaviour at Limpopo must make us to be very afraid. I have never seen such ill discipline, particularly directed at the president of the country," Mthembu said.

He said Zuma was the president of the country and he deserved to be respected by everyone.

"We want to remind the ANC that the president of the ruling party is the president of the country so when insults are hurled against him it brings down his dignity."

Provincial treasurer Mbuyiseni Mathonsi said the SACP was concerned that the insults against Zuma were not condemned by the leadership of the ruling party.

"Our concern is that this behaviour has never been condemned by those that got elected into the leadership of the ANC. They would have done the party a favour by at least standing up and condemning that kind of behaviour," Mathonsi said.

Comments
  • Grant - 2011-12-19 20:55

    Respect has to be earned, it is not an automatic right. Showerhead has yet to do anything in either his professional or personal capacity worthy of any form of respect.

      Ben - 2011-12-19 21:07

      What anybody thinks of him personally is, of course, his own opinion. You are referring to his professional capacity and that is what irks me. Remember in the army you had to salute the rank, not the man. This is the president of the country I am proud of and whether its him or the next man he has to be respected. Malema is the last man who should be making a fool of him.

      Ronald - 2011-12-19 21:38

      A public office position does not automatically demand respect, in fact the Christian bible actively discourages it in favour of the person until that person proves otherwise, as Zuma has done on numerous occasions. As a public person the president earns our respect if and when he acts in defence of and actively works at improving the lives of the inhabitants of the country with which he has been entrusted. He has done the exact opposite. He has caused our political policies to be ridiculed, his word to be taken with no seriousness at all, proven that the government's loyalty and morality is given to the highest bidder and forced the impression that the only mission he and his friends have is to enrich themselves.

      Grant - 2011-12-19 21:41

      @Ben..Sorry mate, gonna have to disagree. This man is not a democratically elected president. He is an appointed cadre, appointed by a relatively small group to meet their needs, not the needs of the country (including Malema who once swore to die for Zuma). As such he is possibly the greatest cadre appointee failure yet and deserving of nothing more than derision, a perception that he reinforces every time he opens his yap. It is he who has brought shame to this lofty position, History is not going to be kind.

      Godfrey - 2011-12-19 22:51

      @Ben will you respect Malema should he become the president...did not think so.

  • Ben - 2011-12-19 20:55

    Any organisation without proper discipline is bound to collapse. The fact that the Communist party from outside the A.N.C. is the first to respond proves the fact that that the senior people in the A.N.C. is afraid of Malema. This is the president of all the people of S.A. The man who ridicules him is within his own party. Shame.

      Godfrey - 2011-12-19 22:54

      What goes around, comes around. Zuma enjoyed every moment when Malema disrespect Mbeki

  • Max - 2011-12-19 20:55

    In Afrikaans there is a saying that explains this beautifully: "As jy jouself vir 'n toffie uitgee gaan jy gekou word"m

  • pzangerle - 2011-12-19 21:02

    A white businessman gets a heavy fine for spelling a drink over him - accidentially or not. If you are black you can ridicule him in public

      Ian - 2011-12-20 07:23

      hear hear!!

      jody.beggs - 2011-12-20 09:22

      I wish I were more equal , like the rest of the cANCer. Damn the man , save the rainbow nation.

  • Yurak - 2011-12-19 21:05

    The snowball is gaining momentum...

  • Lynn - 2011-12-19 21:08

    You reap what you sow. Was Mbeki not Ridiculed and Disrespected by Zuma and his Malema. Now why were they not disciplined then. The ANC as a whole is busy losing credibility every day. They need to sort out the discipline issues themselves.

      Ronald - 2011-12-19 21:40

      The wheel turns, even faster when the rats inside start running.

  • Swapie - 2011-12-19 21:08

    Dont you just love politics!

  • George - 2011-12-19 21:10

    Truth hurts

  • Nhlantla - 2011-12-19 21:18

    What goes around comes around!

  • smathabe - 2011-12-19 21:34

    This is no longer the case of the ANC members alone but it infringes on our rights as citizens of this country. How can we be proud of our country when its President is publicly mocked, let alone disregard for judiciary, by a member of this society and yet nothing can be done. Malema and Cassel, being a premier serving the same government, deserve harsh action. South Africa cannot be dictated upon by Limpompo hooliganism and foolery. Zuma and his cabinet must act swiftly.

      Ben - 2011-12-19 21:40

      Thank you. I could not have said it any better but this is exactly what I mean.

  • Johann - 2011-12-19 21:37

    JZ is being put to the test once again. Backbone will be required to establish authority. But , money remains the issue ... JM and cronies are feeling the pressure as national government is moving in to turn off the taps. I just so wish the prez continues his hard line approach.

  • Moss Mphahlele - 2011-12-19 21:39

    So it's right to ridicule Mbeki, but Zuma? They were happy when Mbeki was at the receiveng end, they should also be happy now!!

  • Norman Shimbyana Big-dawg - 2011-12-19 21:42

    OMG, KZN again! Where were you when the very same individuals (JuJu) was disrespecting Mbeki in favor of ur only nitwit son/brother Zuma? Shut up or start by mentioning from that era...

  • Paul - 2011-12-19 21:59

    Aaaahhhh! Diddums. Did someone hurt his feeling. Poor baba.

  • Nkosinathi - 2011-12-19 22:04

    All that started when Mbeki was attacked publicly and nothing was done to stop. This is a bitter pill for Zuma because he allowed Malema disrepectfully draging Mbeki in the mud. If you teach your children to disrepect others one day they will disrepect you. The ANC politics flies across as an insult to all of us who are voting cows. There is a need for drastic changes in our politics. Politicians are a disgrace in this dark continent. I will never ever vote any party that is associated with Malema. If people burn our flag what does that mean?????????All our loud leaders are poverty preachers during the day but business boardroom at night. All are millioners with vast tenders allocated to their spouses and family relatives. Poor Black you are on your own as Biko once said.

      Andrew - 2011-12-20 07:07

      Well said. The problem arises because no action was taken to stop the Mbeki fiasco and the same applies to Malema, who has been suspended but the progress of finalizing the process has taken so long and no one knows when this will be done. Get rid of the basic rot and lets move on to improve the outlook for all SA citizens.

  • gmanyamalali - 2011-12-19 22:18

    what goes around,comes around.

  • Christognus - 2011-12-19 22:22

    I fully agree with SACP this ill discipline is going to far people are failing to distingiush between respect and provoking ANC as mother body must act we voted it to rule not Julius, media and DA to dictate us enough is enough Wenzeni uZuma?

  • Rankgwatha - 2011-12-19 22:29

    i found it very politically startling that you have a deputy president of the anc, who also happens to be the dep president of our country seating in a meeting where his leader is ridiculed in that manner and does absolutely nothing or says nothing except to discourage delegates not to vote in slates, i think the leadership of the anc must have the guts and audacity to challenge these foreign tendencies, lest they themselves are silent partners to these conducts,this is irrespective of who says what, if wrong then it must be told as such. silence on these matters is helping this organisation a bit. truth be told Malema is a complete project went wrong for the anc Ayanda

  • Rankgwatha - 2011-12-19 22:35

    it is really disappointing to note that some of our leaders remain silent in the face of all kinds of attacks on the president of the anc, this dispite the fact most of these comments and conducts happen in their presence,a classical example is the conduct of delegates during the recent polokoane conference of the anc where the deputy president was present when insult where directed towards the seating president of the organisation. is it perhaps that the dep pres does not have the guts and audacity to challenge his supposedly supporters for mangaung, a stern warning to the anc leadership that spare the rod an spoil the child, we are silently and indirectly contributing to the demise of the anc wittingly or otherwise. history is definitely going to judge us.

  • Prisie - 2011-12-19 22:35

    our president must never stoop to these dirty flies level

      dave.j.colquhoun - 2011-12-20 07:30

      A bit late here aren't we. Remember the Mbeki fiasco

  • Azande - 2011-12-19 22:39

    much as i respect zuma as the president, the silence has to be broken. what goes around comes around. zuma gave malema a lot of room to humiliate and disrespect elders. zuma is given a taste of his own medicine. mbeki got humiliated and insulted by malema and others while anc leadership led by zuma were eating humble pie. i feel no pity for him. in actual fact, his time is finished, he should just resign. we really cannot afford a "not so bright" and despised national president anymore which at same time keep on making blunders day in and day out. How many decisions made by zuma got overturned by the court? how many appointments did this guy make that were either unlawful or questionable? Heath is the last straw. Even the dumbest can see that zuma is being sabotaged by his advisors and he acts smart on press conferences trying to justify his blunders putting on a very stupid smile. That’s on politics. On his social life, he is practising unprotected sex and making babies like nobody’s business. he sleeps with a lot of woman including his friend’s daughters. what is his teaching to the nation. i'm yet to see the "zuma thought leadership institute", hopefully he will be smarter in his next life.

  • Joseph - 2011-12-19 22:40

    The attack on Zuma by Limpopo ANC is a sign that they are frustrated and can not force the people within the ANC to change their leadership prefarance come next year.Julius Malema is not the force behind the ANC anymore,the ANCYL is no longer the decision maker on who heads the ANC next year and the ANC will decide.Julius Malema and his cronnies are getting frustrated day by day,Half of Limpopo voted for Mathale and half went to Phala this shows that Malema is loosing grip within the ANC and the ANCYL bit by bit.Before December next year he will be finished.

      Moss Mphahlele - 2011-12-19 22:48

      Choose a side, JZ or JM?

      Joseph - 2011-12-20 00:15

      Do the some.Moss

      Eric Schollar - 2011-12-20 00:39

      @Moss. Neither - both of them are bad news!

  • Mboneni - 2011-12-19 23:22

    The sacp is dividing the anc let Blade Nzumade packs and concentrate his energy to the non existing sacp,after all he is not adding any value in govt,but contribute to lower the standard of education

  • Jacques - 2011-12-19 23:59

    Just a side note here: why are the Commies as vocal as they are? If it isn't ''Judicial Dictatorship'' (aka ''healthy democracy'') then it's the president being ridiculed that's bugging them. Now, tripartite or not, I get a little uneasy when every scrap of news or even published opinion of the Presidency has that Soviet flavour to it.

  • Tiyani Will Nghonyama - 2011-12-20 06:08

    Am sure the idiots were not saying the same when Mbeki was being attacked... *showara wa re sokodisa*

  • Ian - 2011-12-20 07:12

    Well firstly, one earns respect, you don't just magically get it from holding office. And let's be honest, JZ has not earned respect, at least not mine. As far as i'm concerned he should be laughing stock of the country, but unfortunately we have Malema who trumps even JZ's "silly" actions. Secondly, why is there still a Communist party? <--- didn't they see what's happened to the USSR? Come now guys, get with the times.

  • dave.j.colquhoun - 2011-12-20 07:27

    For once in my life, I actually agree with something that the SACP has said. Am I getting old and soft here or has the SACP finally said something intelligent?

      Ian - 2011-12-20 07:30

      Old and soft Dave, old and soft :p :p

  • Daft - 2011-12-20 07:43

    It appears that the shower song must be a "freedom fighter" song...It started way back during the Rivonia trial..

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-20 08:47

    We are referring to a man who was defended for all his misdeeds. This is the man that was supported to avoid courts on his corruption and rape trials respectively. He was further defended on his personal lifestyle. The support he was offered made him to take advantage thinking he is the darling of ANC executives. He married and re-married, he continue to impregnate out of his polygamous wedlock and he continued to be mum on his son andniece's multi billion rands deals. All these opened the floodgates for corruption, they were looting knowing that the man they let off the noose wouldn't have the power to stop them any how. These ANC elites have just realised that Zuma's quest recently to be a responsible state man and a desciplinarian will leave them without power and influence and they are looking for another prey in Motlanthe. They have just realised that the leadership boots that Mandela and Mbeki left behind seem to be growing bigger in succession. The leadership vacuum is just getting from bad to worse. The hanging dark clouds over Zuma's shower head may cause flood that may sweep him away politically. Zuma's reliance on people who backed to him power may cause him the most humiliating political exit ever in South Africa's political history in a manner he would regret the day his charges were withdrawn.

      jody.beggs - 2011-12-20 09:34

      Dude if there is more than one post delete the others

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-20 08:50

    We are referring to a man who was defended for all his misdeeds. This is the man that was supported to avoid courts on his corruption and rape trials respectively. He was further defended on his personal lifestyle. The support he was offered made him to take advantage thinking he is the darling of ANC executives. He married and re-married, he continue to impregnate out of his polygamous wedlock and he continued to be mum on his son andniece's multi billion rands deals. By doing all these he was building himself a glass house from which he cannot through stones. All these opened the floodgates to corruption, they were looting knowing that the man they let off the noose wouldn't have the power to stop them any how. These ANC elites have just realised that Zuma's quest recently to be a responsible state man and a desciplinarian will leave them without power and influence and they are looking for another prey in Motlanthe. They have just realised that the leadership boots that Mandela and Mbeki left behind seem to be growing bigger in succession. The leadership vacuum is just getting from bad to worse. The hanging dark clouds over Zuma's shower head may cause flood that may sweep him away politically. Zuma's reliance on people who backed to him power may cause him the most humiliating political exit ever in South Africa's political history in a manner he would regret the day his charges were withdrawn.

      jody.beggs - 2011-12-20 09:35

      Dude if there is more than one post delete the others

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-20 08:50

    We are referring to a man who was defended for all his misdeeds. This is the man that was supported to avoid courts on his corruption and rape trials respectively. He was further defended on his personal lifestyle. The support he was offered made him to take advantage thinking he is the darling of ANC executives. He married and re-married, he continue to impregnate out of his polygamous wedlock and he continued to be mum on his son andniece's multi billion rands deals. By doing all these he was building himself a glass house from which he cannot through stones. All these opened the floodgates to corruption, they were looting knowing that the man they let off the noose wouldn't have the power to stop them any how. These ANC elites have just realised that Zuma's quest recently to be a responsible state man and a desciplinarian will leave them without power and influence and they are looking for another prey in Motlanthe. They have just realised that the leadership boots that Mandela and Mbeki left behind seem to be growing bigger in succession. The leadership vacuum is just getting from bad to worse. The hanging dark clouds over Zuma's shower head may cause flood that may sweep him away politically. Zuma's reliance on people who backed to him power may cause him the most humiliating political exit ever in South Africa's political history in a manner he would regret the day his charges were withdrawn.

      jody.beggs - 2011-12-20 09:35

      Dude if there is more than one post delete the others

  • TheWatcher - 2011-12-20 10:17

    Sad thing is that the ANC voters won't hear a word of this fiasco. They'll be fed the usual propaganda of 'we freed you from apartheid' and will carry one voting based on that misleading statement.

      TheWatcher - 2011-12-20 10:23

      before the pro-ANC crowd come bashing: the ANC were not the only organisation involved in dismantling apartheid but they act like they were. Even the so called right-wing DA in its previous incarnation played a large role. In fact google the link between Helen Zille and Steve Biko, I think you'll find it quite educational, although I think this was well before she got involved in politics.

  • allan.ndlovu - 2011-12-20 18:28

    Its a shame and disgrace to witness such action against our presidnt , leadership need to come out in difence of the the truth. becide that! we can only say cry the beloved ANC.

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