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SANDF to train 20 000 youths

2012-05-17 19:08

Cape Town - About 20 000 young people will be trained in various skills by the SA National Defence Force as part of the national youth service (NYS), Defence Minister Lindiwe Sisulu said on Thursday.

Speaking in the National Assembly during debate on her budget vote, she said the proposed NYS was intended to play a role in dealing with the consequences of youth unemployment and contribute to the national goal of poverty eradication.

She said the service would not offer training for military engagement, but would draw on the potential of military training to promote discipline, self esteem, and a sense of belonging to the national community.

"We have currently embarked on the identification, upgrading, and refurbishment of some of our training facilities and at the beginning of next year we will have completed our preparations.

"We will take 20 000 unemployed youth and turn them into disciplined, empowered young people," Sisulu said.

Comments
  • Bokfan - 2012-05-17 19:19

    Who will monitor this breeding ground for state terrorists? Clearly the SANDF and Sisulu are not competent, equipped or inclined to promote democratic values therefore they will be promoting something else. Something extremely sinister.

  • litshanim - 2012-05-17 19:19

    Another process 2 waste time.msds failed now they have changed name to nys 45% of pple trained during program of msds they r unemployed some of them they are serving at reserve force which thy r nt treated well 2me this ting will never work

  • IcemanGP - 2012-05-17 19:26

    Is this for BEE people only?

      Wizeman - 2012-05-17 20:13

      Good question Iceman. For some reason think that it is just another job creation scam. But then again it would be worth it a potential murderer might become a patriot.

  • Cedric - 2012-05-17 19:31

    The NYS currently consists mainly of black youth, why must the race groups yout suffer and all attempts to assist them goes to thw black youth only

      Barefoot - 2012-05-17 20:04

      have you been to where they sign up and noted how many white youth actually sign up? have you? know the story 'the boy who cried wolf'?

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-17 20:29

      Maybe it's time someone else became canon fodder. I have lost 3 generations of men in my immediate family to the wars that were fought to keep this country safe. It might sound harsh, but the sacrifice made by our men (white and black) is not even acknowledged by the current government or youth league - they just want whites out. Well sorry chaps, we're here to stay. Been here 330 years - probably longer that a lot of the current majority.

  • bill.vanzyl - 2012-05-17 19:39

    To be sure there are better ways to train youngsters and help alleviate poverty rather than training them to march, carry a gun, and shoot at stuff? Whatever skills the military might impart on the youth it will serve them no good in the real world of the workplace. There is no need for "fields of fire" and "fire and movement" on a factory floor or in an office. We need electricians, we need plumbers, we need fitters and turners, we need engineers and builders, not people trained in the art of destruction.

      Zenzile Tshanda - 2012-05-17 20:06

      Petrosa in mosselbay is doing a great job in grooming youngsters in the fields you mentioned. my only problem with the youth is alcoholism and engagement in unprotected sex. one wonders if there's a future for them.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-17 20:22

      Actually Bill, if they can do it properly, a la SADF days, they'll turn out young men who are disciplined, self controlled and who can be proud of themselves. I saw my young brothers in law who were arrogant and cocky turned into worthwhile individuals - who also then went on to find meaningful jobs. Maybe it's not such a bad idea. 20 000 is just a drop in the ocean. What do the rest do with themselves? Perhaps conscription should be reimplemented. It would certainly be a good way of preparing the youth for the workplace because they will have learned respect and discipline.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-05-17 21:44

      Totally agree with you, Bless. I have been bleating around that bush for some time now. It will also help integration in SA - everyone will be on a level playing field. There is more to the Army than guns.

  • phindileethel - 2012-05-17 19:43

    There goes the states money to waste again...they started MSDS n it failed due 2 negligence.the ex-MSDS r jobless,i wonder if it has ever rang a bell 2 the min.she was supposed 2 take that money,re-recruit the ex-MSDS n gave them proper civialian skills.now all they knw is R4 n the min expects them 2 find jobs outside.what is that.\r\n\r\nReserve force is flooding with unemployed soldiers n corruption.if they dont knw u ,u end up not getting a call-up 4 over 3yrs yet ppl know ur a soldier.minister stop waisting money n finish what u guys started MSDS.\r\n\r\nIt hurts a lot seeing what is happenning in the defence,some of us loved n took pride in wearing that uniform.now i dnt even wanna c it.m so sad.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-05-17 21:47

      I am so sorry that happened to you Phindile. Never be sad for doing your best, even if others were too stupid or self-serving to see your value. Your time will come.

  • Michael VAn Der Schyff - 2012-05-17 19:51

    where do i sign up?

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-17 20:14

      Sorry but you are too pale :p

  • mikeangell61 - 2012-05-17 20:14

    About time our lazy SANDF did some work!!!

  • Andre - 2012-05-17 20:15

    The function of the Defence Force is to guard and protect the country's citizens against foreign threats and conflict. It is not a feeding scheme. There is no money available to fly the aircraft, sail the ships and to maintain army vehicles and bases. But let them carry on with these stupid actions because it will only weaken the "SANDF" even more than what is is now!

  • LeoEight888 - 2012-05-17 20:23

    A grand gesture indeed! - What is the true intention? I must be honest and say I question why this is being done and announced now? What is the significance of the "angle" this blessing has originated from - It is an honourable yet sinister gesture - tax money goes to MANY parts of government. Why THIS part of government? – surely decisions of this magnitude are discussed at the highest levels of government before such announcement? Is this type of action MEANT to affect the population in a particular way? We must proceed with caution...the actions taken by our government eventually cost US, the man in the street, more in one way or the other. “SANRAL” ring a bell?? These things take many forms and guises. Nevertheless, - an honourable gesture. Now to see if the proof will be in the pudding. Our dream of a New South Africa Utopia CANNOT have NOT been achieved in 18 years! What is wrong with US? I re-iterate – a truly honourable and ground breaking announcement, but it gives birth to too many questions which engulf the enthusiasm of the positive side of the message.

      LeoEight888 - 2012-05-17 20:26

      PS! And if race is a factor....well then.So much for our Non-Racial South African Utopia!

      thandazab - 2012-05-17 23:03

      Elections 2014! 20 000 votes guaranteed!! Just my opinion!

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-05-17 20:24

    How Sisulu stays true to her word...I'm all for getting youth off the streets.....as long as it doesn't turn out to be just words.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-05-17 20:28

      I meant...."HOPE SISULU STAYS TRUE TO HER WORD"......one in your hast or sleepiness can make mistakes....we all do

  • pamela.v.ngomane - 2012-05-17 20:27

    i wish to be one of those how do i apply..

  • thandazab - 2012-05-17 20:44

    As someone who has been part of this I can personaly say it is a useless initiative. It only helps the youth earn a stipend for that time only. What happens after the training is done! We still stewing with our certificates! I wud rather they created permanent jobs for 10 000 youths then training ppl who r still going to come back n b unemployed again. Or better yet jus pay da lucky 20 000 watever u gona b paying them and cut da training costs which costs millions!! Some of us have such good business ideas but we can't start them coz we can't finance them. We don't even have start up capital stashed anywhere coz our Sisulus r busy coming up with useless ideas while we are loosing hope! JUS MY 2 CENTS! Dr r so many things that cud create job for us with dat money! If u don't wana employ us help us create jobs for ourselves!

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-05-17 21:35

      Maybe they should do the fitness, discipline and self respect training. Skip the warfare/weaponry training and replace it with business orientated ones while they also learn these kids a trade, but not military style rather the same than they would have receive outside, but with some military discipline and respect.(half asleep and struggling to express myself.lol) If an opening in job EVER occur for these kids they are at least trained or partly trained for it. In two years one can learn some skills. I cant even imagine how hopeful they get out after two years and realized that their are no jobs and neither are they even partly equip for one when an opening appears. I think a bigger effort needs to be made and one can use the military camp concept, to cut down on cost and rather spend more on quality training. I feel for you youngsters.

      thandazab - 2012-05-17 21:48

      Ya it truly is a sad sad situation! Wats even worse is dat I went there while studyin towards my second university qualification! So u can jus imagine dat if we can't get jobs wif dat, how useful is that going to be. Oh n ya now dr r doz skills qualifications now. Since we came bk I have applied for a countless number of posts bt no luck! We did dis training without the intense military stuff we did it like how u suggesting it bt still UNEMPLOYED! It really is frustrating. To make things worse now to get a job u have to know ppl who know ppl or sleep with someone n dats just eeeeuuw!! Bt oh well! Gota have faith gota have hope!!

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-05-17 21:57

      On the money, Thanda. That is where the problem lies. The problem is: how do the banks and the state identify the ones that will work to make their business work? Also, the government is the biggest contractor, but it is very hard to obtain their business unless you know someone. I am afraid that is one of the greatest sorrows of South Africa.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-05-17 22:22

      Girl business is mostly about knowing some-one or building up a good friendship as fast as you can. I see it everyday and I could have done a lot more business,if I was not so stubborn by thinking my excellent services is mostly what is needed. I am afraid all the training is not going to help us if we not starting massive projects to build a country into a manufacturing/export machine. Nigeria is a good example of a nation with a high level of education(comparing against other African countries), but I do not have to tell you how it turned out. I am afraid we, South Africans, will have to stop our side shows of cultures and race and first fix this and than that...etc and start with our real problem. Our future. When doing that we will realize after a few years we are all striving for the same and will not even notice the differences we believed in. We have bigger problems. No progress. No development, No future and it grows day by day. Government is already overloaded vs population and we need taxpayers thus people and industries that creates goods to export. Through that we gain fresh money. Currently we circulate too much of the same money between us and only the rich and cleverer knows how to benefit. We do not need more traders. They currently just import. We need goods to export at a low cost. Ai! I can go on and on, but it is bed time. Good luck girl. I really just wish you the best. Keep that chin up!

      thandazab - 2012-05-17 22:34

      Thank u DuToit! Goodnight! @Sandra ya I bet dat our government wud use dat money to finance their own businesses anyway! These ppl r so corrupt its disheartening! There r so many opportunities in small towns like mine n in rural areas. SA is not so developed that dz no room for expanding! Wish I cud apply again atlist dat means I wud have something coming in for a guaranteed 2 yrs or so.

  • Lesiba Klaas - 2014-02-21 22:17

    I wish to be in the army is my dream

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