School drop-out rate a worry for Gauteng

2011-09-27 22:30

Johannesburg - Around 7 000 Grade 1 pupils in Gauteng do not complete their first year at school, the Democratic Alliance said on Tuesday.

This was almost four percent of the total number of grade one pupils, said DA spokesperson Khume Ramulifho.

He said this was revealed in the Gauteng education department's annual report, which was tabled in the Gauteng provincial legislature last week.

On average, the Gauteng primary school dropout rate increased by three percent in the 2009/10 school year, with the Grade 1 dropout rate at 3.8% and Grade Seven at 2.7%.

"There is no explanation as to what happens to these children after they drop out of school at such a young age," he said.

"These figures paint a very worrying picture of the Gauteng education system."

Gauteng education spokesperson Charles Phahlane said the 4% decline was due to families taking their children to other provinces to complete their primary education.

By contrast, high school pupils from other provinces were often moved to Gauteng to study, he said.

  • Wouter - 2011-09-27 22:41

    The more things change, the more they stay the same...

      Hux - 2011-09-28 06:28

      Even these kids and the older ones listen to Malema. He has promised them all that they will get everything for free when he nationalises the mines, banks, all the white land etc. so they see no need to study. What is the point of study and hard work if it is coming your way in any case. Similarly, many white kids also do not see the point of study as whatever they create will be taken away via AA EE etc, that is if they are lucky enough to get a job in the first place due to AA EE etc. All this nonsence kills motivation to study.

      York Hunt - 2011-09-28 07:05

      @Wouter. Well said. Oxymoron of note!

      Razor - 2011-09-28 07:34

      All of you who thumbs down to Coconut clearly lack some education since you fail to recognise sarcasm

      Shivaskar - 2011-09-28 08:06

      @Coconut. Education is free but I see black kids 6-12 yrs just playing no the side of the roads, aimless, directionless, clearly bunking school to play with the trees. What contribution will these kids make to our country? Without education, you are near worthless. And there's no apartheid now, so what's preventing them from going to school this time? Free education, living less than a few 100m away, job market scarce already. I suppose you can only talk so much. Their choice to stay away from school, their disadvantage, their doom. It's just like AIDS, a disease of choice, once again the incorrect choice is being made.

      Mebob - 2011-09-28 08:08

      @Hux, there is no excuse not to study.Don't blame AA EE etc, because it was very difficult for non-whites in the past and that did not stop us from studying.As an Indian child growing up in apartheid South Africa, our parents and teachers alike, always reiterated that education will be the best way to get out of poverty, and any discrimination that may follow us.Personally, it has worked wonders for me and my family and friends.Why won't it work for everyone else?Can you imagine South Africa today,if we gave up?The problem is that far too many Black kids entering school have no parents or simply can't afford to send kids to school.Uneducation is the reason they don't know about family planning etc.This is serious stuff and the government is not doing much to help either.The burning question is, what do we do about it, because the Black elite are simply not interested?

      Shivaskar - 2011-09-28 08:10

      @Coconut - Indians and Coloureds were oppressed during apartheid just as much as Blacks were. How come the Indians and Coloured are not asking for the White people's jobs and money? Because we get educated, find a job (even after we have to face BEE, AA, being the minority) and make a life of it!

      Ron-ny - 2011-09-28 08:50

      @ COCONUT- am I the only one that gets your humor? very sharp indeed....

      Coconut - 2011-09-28 11:41

      Thanks Razor and Ron-ny, I wish there was a smiley face thingy for sarcasm.

  • mabsie - 2011-09-27 22:51

    If they are moving elsewhere and continue schooling surely there are records to indicate this? They cannot disappear into thin air. Who is following them up?

      Mandla - 2011-09-28 02:10

      Maybe they are kids of foreign nationals.

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-09-28 03:42

      Howcome these kids are ALLOWED TO DROP OUT? Who 'signs them off'????? Sad state of affairs, I'd say! A countries wealth, is measured by the strength of it's EDUCATION SYSTEM! Gauteng, HUB OF South Africa, seems to be the WORST OFF!!! Really SAD statistics! What future will ANY OF THESE KIDS HAVE??????????

      Dave50 - 2011-09-28 05:36

      This is very serious as these kids are SA's future, but they now have no skills or education and will therefore be unemployed. Candidates for the ANCYL and Juju. So then they can march and burn and deystry what others have worked hard to build, and Juju will encourage this, maybe he should use his influence to encourge them to stay in school but then as educated people they may question too closely what is going on and people like Juju would loose their following and on a greater scale the ANC could have some embarassing questions to answer.

      Ingie - 2011-09-28 08:54

      well if they are, then they should not be here if illegal

  • Houston - 2011-09-27 23:48

    Not so sure all 7000 went to other provinces, but the schools would have a record of why the kid left (you would htink). Grade 1 kids dropping out is not so much a department of education problem as it is a parental problem. Kids this young can't just drop out of school without their family knowing about it and therefore supporting the decision

      pewpewpew - 2011-09-28 07:27

      its not so bad, i see it as 7000 potential presidents

      aps - 2011-09-28 08:16

      I am a school secretary, and I can tell you it is a nightmare trying to follow up on kids who don't come to school. If you are lucky enough to get hold of a parent, they just say oh sorry, he isn't coming back. It seems as if a lot of schools don't bother asking for a transfer letter, because few parents of kids who leave in this way come to get one.

  • Nasdaq7 - 2011-09-28 00:24

    They end up on the streets selling sweets, fruit, cigarettes and newspapers.

      Neil - 2011-09-28 01:15

      I hate having to give your comment the thumbs up but you are unfortunately spot on.

      AirAction - 2011-09-28 05:59

      or turn to crime?

      Obelix - 2011-09-28 06:16

      I think they go to toy-toy school to learn how to blame apartheid for the rest of your life. Theyr parents also support this toy-toy school as it give them something to complain about instead of having to go to work.

      Scarlett82 - 2011-09-28 07:22

      As they get older they are also the ones that want everythng given to them by the goverment.

      jen - 2011-09-28 08:11

      And become a Malema supporter

  • Trevor - 2011-09-28 05:45

    Just another reason to push for BIRTH CONTROL...ANC is in power, they will always be in power so the excuse to breed which is "the revolutionary way" as Julius stated, is for once Government, do it right, fix the problem at the source & end these welfare handouts!

      AirAction - 2011-09-28 06:02

      The ANC encourages woman to have children, rather than work, with their child grants .

  • Bosvark69 - 2011-09-28 06:12

    Aah shame, is the school standard still too high for the oppressed and previously disadvantaged.....strange, as they keep on telling us how cleva they are!

  • haroldrvjansen - 2011-09-28 06:41

    Regardless of politics, this is serious matter. Two thirds of our population is younger than 35, with the vast majority of them not having sufficient skills to be employed. Kids are allowed to drop out of school for no reason at all, thereby destroying their future A country with poor education, mostly no family structures, unemployable masses, lack of respect for fellow countrymen, poor self esteem.... this is a country that has lost it's soul and that is heading for disaster. Stop throwing politics into the mix, we have seen and it has been proven that politicians can not solve these problems due to a lack of vision and leadership. They only care for their own pockets and power - black and white! It is time that our fellow citizens start changing the status quo, without unproductive rallying or protests, these are tools of the hopeless and uneducated. We need to make a difference before we also become hopeless,... and useless.

      haroldrvjansen - 2011-09-28 07:06

      All the comments made which is based on the 'racial devide' in our country is time and effort wasted. Get over the past, start making a difference now so that we have a future. We are here NOW, deal with the problems.

      Cire - 2011-09-28 11:00

      I agree that the collapse of the education system has nothing to do with race. Malawi, Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Kenya - and a host of other African countries - far outperform SA. The real reasons ies are the utter incompetence of the ANC, the introduction of OBE and the SADTU goon squads. If poor SA parents want a good education for their children they have only one option - flee the country and hope some other African country will provide them with schooling. Sad but true!

  • ShakaN - 2011-09-28 07:01

    Eish we then break in by the house and steal, and then go by the house and make the bebe.

  • letsee - 2011-09-28 07:05

    Drop out is not only about schools, it's about how school teachers communicate with parents and help them to guide their children in school matters. Unfortunatelly too many teachers are not qualified to manage their own lives let alone assist parents and students.

      ZoeSaldahna - 2011-09-28 07:50

      I strongly disagree. Parents are not interested on what is happening with their childrens schooling. They leave parenting to the teachers and show no concern on their child's progress at school. There's only so much that teachers can do and they need parents support, which they struggle to get. And that is if they r lucky to get it.

  • Lofty - 2011-09-28 07:06

    What percentage of these kids are emigrating. Possibly these are young families that see no future for their young children in this country

  • Pickle - 2011-09-28 07:12

    Maybe they have gone missing? Died in terrible accidents? It's sad but it's true...

      fussed - 2011-09-28 07:30

      Whinnie the poo has taken them to replace stompie

  • DW - 2011-09-28 08:06

    I really thought this would be an article of how pupils in Grade 9 - 12 were dropping out. But Grade 1!!! How does this happen? Why does this happen? This needs to be addressed urgently. Without an education, these children have no future whatsoever.

  • Koukus - 2011-09-28 08:09

    It's mos easy peasy. In Rustenburg Municipality are streetworkers with a salary of R30 000 pm. So, why study if your family and friends give you a job with a nice cozy salary.

  • Ingie - 2011-09-28 08:46


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      Scarlett82 - 2011-09-28 09:03

      You Are so Right Ingie.....

      Ginty - 2011-09-28 10:02

      I wonder who would be blamed if there were no Whites around! It's all about choices.There are so many Black people that have made the choice to educate and better themselves despite the hardships they have endured. Basically, it boils down to those who want to learn and better themselves and those who want to just sit back and expect everything for nothing. I had to go to school and I also worked damn hard all my life - it didn't come easy for me. I never started at the top of the ladder like what is happening today. I did it the hard way from the bottom up and was eventually rewarded. No wonder there is so much mess in our country when some want to run before they can crawl and some just want to sit and not even attempt to crawl let alone run!

  • mSholozi - 2011-09-28 08:54

    we must get president JM to help us on this matter, he must speak to the children and give gydence

      Ginty - 2011-09-28 10:22

      Mr President can speak until he is blue in the face but it will not have an impact on the children. It all boils down to choices and if they choose not to learn then all the wild horses won't get them to do so. It seems like Mr President and the Govt are expected to sort out every mess but much of it starts with one's self. If our leaders set good examples (incl. teachers)and were people that children could look up to then just may be the children would have a different attitude. After all, the children are following the example set by many of our leaders and have become rebellious just like them.

  • Darwinian - 2011-09-28 09:04

    With 99% of the cANCer leaders without matric, this comes as no surprise....

      gcr - 2011-09-28 09:24

      If you are going to state percentages - at least be accurate with them go check Who's Who and see how many have qualifications. A little bit of research helps

  • Kevin - 2011-09-28 09:35

    Even Zimbabwe can get their Primary and High School education system right. With our highly-paid Education department, it should be even easier to achieve decent standards. Oh wait! I am forgetting about the 'legacy of Apartheid'! It's not the Education department's fault! This problem can't be sorted out in less than 50 years, also there has to be highly excessive funding that can be skimmed. Let's rather leave that idea alone and just let the whole education standard start dropping till some of our Grade 8's can't read or add figures. No wait! That's happening already.....!! Time for our Electorate to start voting with their brains.

  • H2O - 2011-09-28 09:39

    It all comes from the parents side. If the parents are negative, live in poverty and do not have hope, it will be carried down to their children. And the fact is that more and more people are becoming poorer, the new SA has not made any difference in many people's lifes. As a matter of fact they are worse of.Soif they have no hope and motivation at home, and there is no selfdisiplin, how difficult will it be for the kid to remain positive and look at the bigger picture by staying in school?? Life in SA keeps on moving around into a visious cycle, things will not get better from here for most of the people in SA I am afraid.

  • Badballie - 2011-09-28 10:17

    The ANC hasn't done anything right since they came to power, why expect anything else but total failure? as for the drop out rate, these are the same people who stand around waiting for handouts from the tax payer, here of course one need to remember that the ANC doesn't give handouts, they have no income and do not produce anything they just give away other peoples money.

  • Verbatim - 2011-09-28 10:32

    Funny that they find this surprising. Look at what these kids have as role models. Malema, mcbride, boesak, zuma, mbeki, selebi....why learn things when you can dumb down and rape and steal as you please?

      Cire - 2011-09-28 11:03

      You forgot Madame Matchsticks

  • Cire - 2011-09-28 10:55

    Frankly, these days kids lose nothing by dropping out - the education system is a complete disaster and they learn nothing of any value. Our innumeracy and illiteracy levels are amongst the worst in the world and are getting worse year by year. Without access to private schools, the children of the poor have no hope!

      DW - 2011-09-28 12:31

      Wrong Cire. Not only private schools give a good education. There are government schools (even in the townships) which give a good education, although sadly many, many township schools are simply shocking. However the article refers to Grade 1 pupils dropping out. That points more to parent intervention than children's doing. It may be possible that many are from child headed homes where transport and uniform costs are prohibitive and there is a lack of adult supervision. But this really does need to be urgently investigated and sorted out or you are right, there is no hope for them

      Cindy2810 - 2011-09-28 13:17

      not true Cire, not at all! I moved my daughter from a "well-respected" (and VERY expensive!) private school to a normal government school after her first term in Gr 1 (which was SHOCKING! I've never seen such incompetence and disinterest), and she has improved beyond belief! not all private schools are good, just as not all government schools are bad. i'd say it's a 50/50 between parent involvement and educators that care about the little ones in their classes.

  • Dylan Swanepoel - 2011-09-28 10:57

    @ Shivaskar yes that is true, i saw a documentary on youtube on how things have changed since apartheid, the one guy they interviewed said that under apartheid they were oppressed, and now with the new goverment its the same story. It shows the ANC's real agenda.

  • letsdance - 2011-09-28 13:28

    I can see them blaming the whites again for this........

  • Pfumelani Faith Mashimbye - 2014-10-14 20:15

    i think there are many other reasons to why these children drop out of school either than parents moving their kids to other provinces, factors like poverty,children are forced to leave school, children are not motivated to go to school, many children do not have parents, and some live in abusive households.

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