News24

Sexwale suffers humiliating defeat

2012-06-26 15:42

Johannesburg - Human Settlements Minister and presidential hopeful Tokyo Sexwale suffered a humiliating defeat when delegates at the ANC policy conference rejected him.

In the opening session of the conference on Tuesday Sexwale intervened in a discussion on conference rules led by ANC chairperson Baleka Mbete.

While Sexwale was talking delegates started getting rowdy and drowned him out.

Eventually a delegate from Limpopo told him the rules were adopted by the ANC's NEC of which Sexwale is a member.

Mbete agreed with the delegate and an embarrassed Sexwale had to sit down.

The issue that Sexwale raised related to the singing of songs at the conference.

Sexwale wanted to point out that songs about specific leaders are prohibited but delegates continued songs about President Jacob Zuma.

“The rules here say the singing of derogatory songs are not allowed, but what about songs that are in my favour?” Sexwale told the plenary.

A Sexwale sympathiser said he was trying to point out the double standards in the application of the rules.

“You can't violate conference rules in front of your own eyes. If you don’t speak out now, we might as well go back to the death cells.”

City Press understands the ruling will be discussed at a post-conference NEC meeting.

Detractors of Sexwale said he was trying to be a "big man".

Said another: "This is not The Apprentice. This is not a reality TV show. Tokyo is out of touch with reality."

Even some of Sexwale's sympathisers said it was a stupid move, because Sexwale had little support on the floor.

Sexwale's move follows Zuma’s opening speech, in which he emphasised party unity.

When he took to the podium, Sexwale deferentially said: "I feel small speaking after the president."

The incident can be seen as a barometer for Sexwale's support at the conference. If the reaction of delegates is anything to go by, he will have an uphill battle to secure the presidency.

Comments
  • nsilongo - 2012-06-26 15:07

    City press is very sensationalist. shame. No wonder we continue being played by politicians, journalists analysis is so weak and dumb. You make a small issue sound like a collosal thing.

      tony.lapson - 2012-06-26 16:03

      Doesn't change the fact that our politicians are like children.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-06-26 16:22

      Where is champagne Motlanthe?

      gieljam.gomtor - 2012-06-26 16:47

      I had a high regard for Tokyo but must have confused him with the Japanese ability to conduct things professionally .He somehow bangs on a drum that is upside down ,it still makes a noise but the sound does not travel far and is out of tune and not clear.

      shakes.tshabala - 2012-06-26 17:44

      Tokyo is a real opportunist. Have no respect for him any longer. He also has the same mentality as Malema, because he knows what he can make if Malema becomes President (his wishful thinking). Probably another billion within 10 years.

      liana.loots - 2012-06-26 18:13

      Relax daai boude nsilongo, it's about time Tokyo wakes up and smell the roses. He is not the chosen one either. At least we can rely on City Press to tell it like it is

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-26 18:45

      Sexwale is in Malema's pocket. Or the other way around. Take your pick! Vote DA. Get rid of these jokers.

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-26 18:46

      @news24 - In the article titled "State must ensure people have land: Zuma" there is NO FACILITY TO COMMENT!! This is just not on! News24 is obviously pro-Zuma.

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-26 18:47

      @Tony Lapson - Don't insult our children!

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-26 18:59

      My ancestors ( yes, I also have ancestors!) were Welsh. Viva Wales! All Welsh are supposed to have great voices but alas, I cannot sing! Does that mean that I cannot be president some day?

      DraganTrenk - 2012-06-26 21:52

      You are absolutely right,nsilongo. Instead to tell the story,they "CREATE" the story,as almost all SA "journalist".They are manipulating public opinion,instead of creating one based on facts and expert analysis.I am not sure is it luck of professional etics or personal integrity,or just plain lack of intellect.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-06-27 06:22

      A hair has a brain? Come now Leonard ...

      nrgx.nrg - 2012-06-27 11:24

      "leaders" with the same IQ levels of the mentally handicapped trying be diplomats.

      oneant.kasinski - 2012-06-27 11:45

      amazing how you neanderthals ridicule the most intelligent and innovative members of your party yet praise the most ignorant. No wonder you are doomed to be a banana republic.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-27 12:05

      Nsilongo It is strange how the children here always blame the press. Are they also keeping you unemployed?.

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-06-27 14:06

      These delegates are just jealous because Tokyo has made his money and doesn't have to sell his soul like they do.. I really hope he becomes president eventually. SA will do much better if its run by someone who doesn't have to turn a blind eye to all the corruption. He makes Zuma and Malema look like fools without even trying very hard.

  • nhlapop - 2012-06-26 15:59

    Like as if we care. I agree with you Nsilongo.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-27 12:08

      Nhalpop, you don't care but you agree. Make sense to some I suppose.

  • Khaya - 2012-06-26 16:00

    For crying out loud, what could be wrong when members of an organization sing about their President? The wanna be presidents should wait their turn to contest in Mangaung, if at all they will even make the thresh-hold.

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-26 18:54

      In the modern world (east or west, north or south) singing like a bunch of rabid budgies is just out of place. It is not respected behavior. And this behavior is standard in the anc.

      aphiwe.mayola - 2012-06-27 10:06

      at glyn.morgan.96 go to the mordern world (east, west, north or south) hey, T.I.A (This is Africa) my brother, infact, T.I.S.A (This is South Africa) so we can do best should we wish. Just thought I'd remind you.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-27 12:09

      Khaya, I'll prefer less singing and more governing.

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-06-26 16:00

    oh dear, they are supposed to be solving our huge social, political & economic problems, but guess what, they are arguing about singing songs....its no wonder schools don't have text books.

      brandon.mccutcheon.56 - 2012-06-27 05:17

      @Blackyoungandstupid. Read Nigel's comment again, think, re-think and then say something that makes sense. If I recall, the last exclusive voting regarding the nats was the referendum which I am sure you know nothing of. Look it up you twit!

      fanie.dutoit2 - 2012-06-27 07:43

      Clearly Blackyoungandangry is a result of the current education system

      aphiwe.mayola - 2012-06-27 10:08

      My thoughts exactly nigel, but then again could be News24 ignoring the news worthy stuff and hitting us this stupid stuff. sharp.

  • terence.pattison - 2012-06-26 16:05

    How can we take this Party seriously when the strength of the Leadership is judged by who gets the most songs!! It sounds like "Idols for Politicians".

      fritz.schoon - 2012-06-26 22:07

      Terrence, you've got it all wrong. The strength of the leadership is determined by dances the best.

      mnathisto - 2012-06-26 23:27

      lol lol...i realy cnt take u seriously as wel...ey u r funny man

      balan.morgen - 2012-06-27 12:50

      Yeah the african national clowns are singing and doing a devil dance as well.

      napolita.kio - 2012-06-27 13:14

      Hahaa...Oh really now!! Have you ever or would ever, honestly, want to take the ANC seriously?

  • Gavin - 2012-06-26 16:06

    a politician is someone too lazy to get a real job and contribute towards the economy, they prefer to stand hands outstretched for bribes and as their lips move out come the lies about all the changes they will make for the good of the people. gone are the days when a leader is a respected member of the community, by night he leads, and by day he grows potatoes.

  • dulcie.theron - 2012-06-26 16:11

    ....THE CHALLENGE BEING?....cmon news 24......\humiliating defeat....\

  • khanyi.khanyisile.92 - 2012-06-26 16:16

    What were you thinking Sexwale capitalist wolf wearing a sheep skin.

      Provence - 2012-06-26 17:51

      So what's wrong with capitalism. Probably because each person needs to work for their money, and not sit on the fat beer @sses waiting for handouts.

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-06-27 14:02

      We need a whole lot more of our politicians thinking like capitalists if we would like to uplift the poor majority in this country. Socialism has failed all over the world. Only those connected to senior party members get wealthy.

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-06-26 16:18

    God help us all. We have uneducated kids running this country and crying about little songs. Seriously this gathering of the ANC is just another waste of tax payers money and for them to have a big party. Stuff the poor ppl, stuff education and stuff building homes. To all of you who voted for this party, sorry to say but your not gonna get anything this year besides more broken promises.

      brandon.mccutcheon.56 - 2012-06-27 05:29

      @dino. If your spelling is anything to go by, I assume you are one of the kids in limpopo who the ANC refused to give text books to 6 MONTHS INTO THE YEAR! Good luck, keep voting for them.

  • lephans.lufuno - 2012-06-26 16:21

    Clueless bunch of idiots,is dat wat dey call policy conference? Discussing about who should get de song of praise. My advice to de poor citizen of SA is think twice b4 u cast ur vote.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-06-26 16:25

    sexwale, you were put in your place by the zuma supporters, now you know your fate. He has the majority support there. Did you not notice the KFC van parked outside. He promised them all chicken if they would just keep quiet and clap their hands and nod their heads when called on.

  • Steve - 2012-06-26 16:30

    Beware of flying chairs.

  • ramosa61 - 2012-06-26 16:44

    It may be the beginning of the end of Sexwalle's policital career - remember how the same fate befell Lekota shortly before he was removed as chairperson? Now he is a voice calling in the political desert. Pity, though: Sexwalle has the expertise to drive a process to generate new wealth in the SA economy, which could have been utilised to uplift masses of people who desperately need it. It's really sad that there are those to whom personal access to power seems to be more important than socio-economic prosperity.

      Jabulani - 2012-06-26 17:43

      Wow tokyo brought this to himself he underestimated president jz by showing his hand early and this is not the apprentice as the other comrade said

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-06-26 16:45

    And JZ makes a mental note: 1 down, 2 to go

  • gavin.lott.9 - 2012-06-26 16:45

    There have been many times I would have liked to be a fly on the wall...this isn't one of them!! what a pathetic bunch..LOL!

  • netswera.livhuwani - 2012-06-26 16:50

    South Africa has a rough path ahead, we still have to work very hard to make sure our people understand what governance is all about. those people are busy supporting Zuma without ant valid reason to why he has to go for the second term.this man has fail the country in many ways,he shows no commitment at all.his actions shows his true colours,i dont see which direction this country will be taking if this men is in power for the next five years.i wonder what realy happened to ANC?HOW do we go from good to very bad so fast?how do we forget so fast?This country is a shame,an insult to those who believe in black leadership. vote Jacob lets continue with the circus.

      magomarele - 2012-06-26 17:04

      Call them befeficiaries of corruption. They support him because they benefit as individuals. They don't care about the general good of the country.

  • pmmaboya - 2012-06-26 16:52

    if the anc is going to lead the country in ths way,South Africa is going nowhere surely.i was expecting a different aproach from our president but realy disapointed,it seems even those delegates are all his supporters benefiting frm our taxes,i doubt if i l take my time going to vote for self inrichment party again,i rather seat at home with my poor family.

      magomarele - 2012-06-26 17:01

      agree with you. I won't sit and watch, I'd vote for someone else. No time for morons who glorify praise-singing and ignore service delivery.

      ramosa61 - 2012-06-26 17:16

      I share your sentiments, but sitting at home passively is not going to drive any message home. After 18 years (half a generation!), we must insist on the visionary leadership we campaigned for when we first put them in power. Sadly, the only way to do this appears to be by casting opposing votes at the ballot box. And this is where the real crisis comes in: How do we know which party is the least hopeless of them all? The problem, as I see it, is the proportional representation granted by our votes: You see, we vote for an emblem on the ballot paper, not for the name of a candidate. The names are listed by the elite under that emblem. Therefore, none of "our MPs" is accountable to us as voters - they are only accountable to the elite who wrote their names on the list! It's high time we do away with the loser-keeps-all dispensation the now-defunct NP squeezed into the transitional Constitution so many years ago. It serves no voter, and instead relieves our so-called representatives from any real accountability.

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-06-26 17:18

    Zuma sense of unity is that the entire ANC must dance with him under the same shower head or get out.

  • richard.russmann - 2012-06-26 17:25

    Ag no surprise, nothing democratic about anything ANC/ Cosatu and cadres do. He would be better served as an independant , or better join another party such as the DA.

  • Johnson - 2012-06-26 17:47

    He wants it so bad - he will sell anything and everything hoping that the ANCYL will back him by paying their accounts.

  • Mkhululi Yekani - 2012-06-26 17:47

    Let them fyt alone.

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-06-26 17:47

    the rot has set in tik tok tik tok

  • tmufuma - 2012-06-26 18:01

    It does clearly indicate the intension of the Zuma faction, free to do anything at anytime, though anti Zuma's are 4ever shutdown i.e. ANCYL

  • Richard - 2012-06-26 18:04

    when you dont have anything intelligent to say you must sing and dance, you get votes for dancing nicely in this country.

  • tmufuma - 2012-06-26 18:06

    That was the point where people like Mantashe & mthembu should call for descipline in the ANC stepping on example that took-place during the singing on the opening.....

  • mthokozisi.mdluli.58 - 2012-06-26 18:31

    ag da anc dd a gud thng...sexwhale flies jst cos he has lots of money he shud 4get being loved n focus on his businesses

  • nonhlanhla.jama - 2012-06-26 18:31

    Apprentice, apprentice mhhhhh sorry u fired Tokyo.

      musa.p.nzimande - 2012-06-26 22:03

      Let them continue to support Zuma he will suspend them all

  • glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-26 18:58

    My ancestors ( yes, I also have ancestors!) were Welsh. Viva Wales! All Welsh are supposed to have great voices but alas, I cannot sing! Does that mean that I cannot be president some day?

      ramosa61 - 2012-06-26 19:11

      Being Welsh probably means you're white. Whites can't dance. Or sing. But they can swim. It's a sorry consolation, but it's all I can offer at this time...

      ted.muusha - 2012-06-26 19:42

      You stand a better chance in Wales.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-27 12:21

      Glyn, does that mean you can't play rugby either?.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-27 12:21

      Ramosa you call jumping on one leg dancing?.

  • Andre - 2012-06-26 19:41

    Tokyo made a big mistake when he backed the wrong horse a while ago. he backed Malema and he lost!

  • mzondistanley - 2012-06-26 19:54

    Tokyo, Is not ashamed of campaining against the Chairman of the party and he deliberately gets confused while he know that a Party President symbolises an Identity icon for the Party!! Up untill People of South Africa elects another ANC/Ruling Party Leader He is supposed to toe the Line of the Ruling Party as defined by the Leadership and Currently Headed by President Jacob Zuma!!!!!! He is there to contribute and listen attentively to Policy Guide Lines as put forward by Common Members of ANC/Deligates !!! If He is Big Headed Deligates have the right to put him to size!! After all he has a Platform in NEC and in Cabinet!!!

  • Synomore - 2012-06-26 20:20

    Saves you right you power hungry and grand stander, what do you actually want ? Go and spent your bee millions you'll never be a president you capitalist

  • ditoare.gypsy - 2012-06-26 20:24

    Sexwale trying to be a (PO-ho) a Bull-Goat lol

  • john.bollie - 2012-06-26 21:55

    Viva City Press. You have the balls to show the weaknesses of the ANC. Keep up the GOOD WORK!!!

  • kevin.pitzer - 2012-06-26 22:13

    Most of you all speak rubbish .....Tokyo is a leader and maybe he may use the youth to a cause he is a far better leader to lead this nation out of the misery that currently or will happen.That is my sixpence.

      ramosa61 - 2012-06-26 22:24

      Kevin, your spelling is commendable. Your grammar, though, is unintelligible. Try, at least, some punctuation. Then some concord. Better still, rather just delete your comment. That would be the least painful. Love, Daniel.

  • Chumscrubber1 - 2012-06-27 06:23

    ANC joke continues.

  • roodbol - 2012-06-27 07:15

    Same promises from Zuma than a few years back. Did the poor improve? No, poorer. Just an ANC tactic to gain votes [from the poor themselves, who is dumb to believe empty promises once again]. If someone dropped me ONCE with promises, I'll go somewhere else - enough competition who might just do what they promise. Sexwale is the best for the job and the ANC is scared by this and how they will financially 'suffer'.

  • Archie - 2012-06-27 07:54

    The people will never own land under a socialist/marxist regime like the ANC.Even as we speak the land bought for reform is rented to african farmers not given to them.ie you cant borrow on the land value or buy machinery using the land as collateral.The farmers become reliant on a useless government which knows buggerall about farming issues.The farms die and the farmers become disillusioned and move on back to the cities and we start all over again.farming is not for the faint hearted,it is really hard work and commitment,so who wants to do it if they dont own the land?.Communist states own all land in their countries,thats why they all collapsed.Wake up the ANC is run by the Communistbloc,virtually every minister is also a communist party member.The old ANC is gone!If we want to survive, vote DA, they are the real way to economic freedom in our time.No cadres ,no criminals in parliament only people working very hard for the people.

  • segomotso.joshua - 2012-06-27 08:24

    sexwale is a comedian.

  • Honest - 2012-06-27 09:07

    Tokyo got it all wrong , it is and has been ANC tradition to sing about incumbent presidents and not just the president but leadership as a whole. The next song after the one about JZ could have been about Tokyo himself as a leader but he jumped the gun . Derogatory songs about leaders are the ones being dicouraged.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-27 12:02

    The ANC is a party of double standards. It didn't matter to Sexwale in the past, so now he shouldn't moan.

  • Sannie - 2012-06-27 13:29

    Tokyo has a point, this conference is not about an individual but the ANC; and electioneering is total not allowed.

  • alu.ntsandeni - 2012-06-27 14:15

    This is not The Apprentice. This is not a reality TV show

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