Solidarity: Afrikaners distrust ANC

2011-04-20 12:54

Johannesburg - The ANC's support for its Youth League president Julius Malema's hate speech has led to a deep sense of distrust for the ruling party in the Afrikaans community, the general secretary of the Solidarity trade union Flip Buys said on Wednesday.

Buys said in a speech at the union's national congress outside Johannesburg that Afrikaners could not talk to "people" who had outlawed them as a cultural group.

"The ANC's support for Malema's hate speech has led to a deep sense of distrust being experienced within the Afrikaans community," Buys said.

"I want to make it very clear that we will go out of our way to rebuild confidence, but we are not prepared to crawl on our knees.

"We cannot talk to people who have outlawed us as a cultural group as if there is nothing wrong with it."

AfriForum and TAU SA have taken Malema to the Equality Court to interdict him from singing or chanting the lyrics "shoot the boer".

ANC leaders, including secretary general Gwede Mantashe and NEC member Derek Hanekom, have testified for Malema in the case, which is being heard in the High Court in Johannesburg, sitting as the Equality Court.

Buys said the union was tired of talking about problems such as unfair affirmative action, violent crime, Afrikaans schools and universities, the "criminalisation" of the Afrikaner history.

"It would see as if there is a total inability within the ANC to look beyond its own narrow ideological and racial boundaries to consider the interests of all in the country."

Buys said the union wanted to extend a "hand of friendship" to President Jacob Zuma and the ANC and its alliance partners.

"It is an open hand, not a clenched fist, but it is definitely not a pleading and begging hand either.

"We have respect for authority, but we also have our self respect.

"We realise the minorities must fight for that which majorities take for granted."

  • kolobe - 2011-04-20 12:59

    do you remember afrikaners trusting the anc? nothing new there

      The Spear - 2011-04-20 13:07

      it is kind of hard to trust someone when he sings songs about killing you and your family.

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-20 13:12

      yep, I do, when FW released Mandela!!!!

      Marcell - 2011-04-20 13:15

      Kolobe, are you happy with the levels of corruption in government?

      TmanTT - 2011-04-20 13:26

      If Afrikaners were not sitting with stolen goods( land & economy at large). They wouldn't have to distrust ANC.

      Badger - 2011-04-20 13:27

      There was a time when white afrikaners gained respect for the anc goverment under Mr Mandela. He at least promote mutual respect amongst cultures. At that stage I had the feeling that all racial groups were part of south africa. How can one possibly feel part of the country with the songs that malema is singing? Mr Mandela never sung such songs after he became president. He knew it would upset certain cultures. What caused malema to do so. The anc certainly changed for the bad. I am not saying all anc members are bad but that certain senior elements in the anc are nothing but gangsters. I do not think it will be necassary to quote issues where ministers and a president is involved in corruption. Whether it is cope of da we should not let this happen.

      Black Sense - 2011-04-20 13:27

      They trusted the ANC enough to unban it. They trusted the ANC enough to sit with it at the Negotiation table. They trusted the ANC enough to serve under it in SANDF, they trusted the ANC to recognise it as a legitimately elected Government. They trusted the ANC enough to embrace its greatest son when winning the Rugby world Cup. Even today, they trust the ANC enough to consider it a legitimate participant in the politics of SA today. What joy is there in smacking away a hand stretched out in friendship Kolobe? Unless I dont get the spirit in which you post. I read the Article and it sounded like a frustrated person doing much to give proper guidance to the maelstrom of emotions inside him said "I will go out of my way to rebuild confidence". Take his hand!!

      Siya - 2011-04-20 13:30

      After killing how many liberation fighters, do you think the release of Mandela made everyone forget, I don’t think so.

      Kristi10 - 2011-04-20 13:32

      @TmanTT - The Afrikaners have worked very hard to build this country go have a look what happened to farms that have been "given back". The ANC have been stealing from their own people since the first day they got into to goverment. Not one goverment department is not run down with the ANC's theft. The thieves my dear man is the ANC not the Afrikaners.

      whiteass - 2011-04-20 13:33

      I think that any intelligent person has treason to doubt the ANC, if they get their way you would not have this medium to air your opinions.

      SlapTjip - 2011-04-20 13:34

      Marcell: Kolobejaan won't answer your question becuase he is most likely cashing in himself.

      Dougiwe - 2011-04-20 13:34

      Hey Kolobe! Please check out this clip and let me know what you think, Please, please ya'll need to hear it

      Otello - 2011-04-20 13:36

      Be grateful that Afrikaners have grown to distrust the ruling party and government as a whole. They slavishly followed the previous regime which lead them down the garden path for more than forty years. It is not strange but utterly normal to distrust any government. Members of society must police government at all times.

      SeanJ - 2011-04-20 13:37

      TmanTT there was no economy before we came here so we didnt steal it.. stop being ignorant..

      kolobe - 2011-04-20 13:39

      Black Sense i think you confuse trust with lack of options.war was inevitable and the west disinvested.thats how the anc got into power. you cant have mandela in jail for 27yrs then come around and claim you trust him.wouldnt make sense.maybe you developed the trust as he governed and some blacks feel he sold them out

      Badger - 2011-04-20 13:59

      Kolobe. I read your last comment and I can now see why no one can reason with you. Despite your blinding hatred, you must also be a very shallow person. I can imagine that you do not have many friends at work (if you work at all)black and white. We all have issues but we need to move on sometimes.

      Spear The Almighty - 2011-04-20 14:01

      Kolobe - You forget something, a referendum was held where the majority of white people voted to continue to dismantle the apartheid regime. Know your history. If they voted "no" there would have been 10 years more of apartheid and probably huge bloodshed.

      Sam - 2011-04-20 14:03

      @Kolobe, they never did. They even think we gonna eat them once Mandela dies... mxm..

      PikeLee - 2011-04-20 14:04

      you forget kolobe abd TmanTT. If not for boers, or farmers, we would all be starving. You have seen what happens when you give a farm to a person who has no idea how to farm. It becomes his personnel toilet. Mind boggling how you guys want to bite the hand that feeds you, and then you will be the first to run to your previous "colonialist invaders" and beg them for handouts.

      Steen - 2011-04-20 14:07

      Flip Buys has benefitted a lot from Apartheid government where black people was never given a chance in work environment, now he cries about Affirmative Action? What a load of crap. Reality is Black people don’t trust white and we don’t expect whites to trust us. Now deal with it or immigrate to OZ

      MWF - 2011-04-20 14:54

      We all know that this trial is a joke and meant only to stir up racial hatred to ensure that the uneducated blacks forget about the fact that 90% of them have yet to receive ANY of the things promised to them 17 years ago by the ANC. The ANC are aware that these blacks are only now starting to question this, so how do they ensure votes now? Simple. Stir up the race card once more. Make these fools believe that their only choice in life is to vote BLACK (ANC) or WHITE (any other party). Naturally given their IQ, they lap this up like children given free sweeties. Since we all know this trial is only designed to achieve the above, and there is nothing we, as whites, can do about it (after all Malema himself has already publicly stated he will NOT lose because the judges all work for the ANC and he IS the ANC), I see no option other than, lets play 'fight fire with fire'. So on that note, a new 'struggle' song for the whites: Their version: Ayasab' amagwala (the cowards are scared) dubula dubula (shoot shoot) aw dubul'ibhunu (shoot the Boer) Ziyarapa lezinja (these dogs are raping) dubula dubula (shoot shoot) aw dubul'ibhunu (shoot the Boer) Ours version: the morons are retarded shoot shoot shoot the Maid these dogs are raping shoot shoot shoot the Gardener the ANC is useless shoot shoot shoot shoot

      Black Sense - 2011-04-20 15:42

      Kolobe,you are in danger of becoming what you most despise if you havent already. Braam Fischer trusted the ANC, Beyers Naude did to the point of harbouring cadres on the run from the Special Branch. A special branch many blacks were members of like Joe Mamasela. In the 90's the Nats were definitely in a bind but they could have fought on, they didnt. Constand Viljoen could have joined the AWB in raiding Bophouthatswana, but didnt. Those who voted in the referendum could have voted no, but they voted yes. General George Meiring could have refused to serve in the SANDF under Mandela. He served. An Afrikaner says to you lets get along and you metaphorically spit in his face. Shame on you.

      chris van rensburg - 2011-04-20 16:54

      @steen.Please know your history.The Koisan people were in Southern Africa long before the black people coming down from the North and the white people who came in 1652.The Koisan,cloured and White people were in the Western and Southern Cape for more than 200 years before they encounter the first blacks the Xhosa people at the Fish River in +/- 1837 in the Eastern Cape.So you go back to North Africa or try OZ youself

      River_side - 2011-04-24 21:35

      Afrikaaners was never trusting of anything Black particularly if is mobile and on two legs. @MWF: have u been to school maid.

      Ntokozo - 2012-05-06 21:25

      @Chris van Rensberg, you come here in 1652 and all of a sudden you know our history more than us...How is it that you know about my origin whereas you just met me for the first time recently in 1652? You whitties are just trying to make yourselves feel better about your being foreigner in this land... This is Africa for Africans...There is no doubt that your kind is in OVERSEAS, EUROPE! You have no claim on the African land... You are only adopted here. So, don't push too much to want to make us the same with you.... The day you guys become dark sinned like me then you can claim I'm like you with regard to this land.

  • Stephen - 2011-04-20 13:03

    Not just Afrikaners, White South Africans as a whole! - 2011-04-20 13:15

      I'm White and i trust Zuma

      BigD - 2011-04-20 13:30

      Be careful when saying "White South Africans as a whole". Please don't speak for me. - 2011-04-20 13:39

      No I am a white as I said. What is wrong with supporting ANC? Last I checked it was a free world! - 2011-04-20 14:13

      Loodpil - grow up. You are a shinning example of a naive fool. What to be a ANC supporter you have to be black or a wannabe black?! I AM A WHITE PERSON I DO NOT WISH TO BE ANY OTHER RACE. I AM A PROUD ANC SUPPORTER. THAT IS MY CHOICE! - 2011-04-20 14:14

      Travie - I am a girl so do not have a wife. But I trust Zuma and know for a fact (before your next pathetic shot at him) he has never tried to hurt me and never would.

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:18

      @MJ84 - So you are ok with killing white people. Just remember when the black robber puts a gun to your head you voted for him to do that by voting ANC. @BigD - Are you also the same a MJ84? - 2011-04-20 14:26

      Psychotron - why would supporting the ANC be me accepting whites been killed? And no offence that is a stupid question to ask a white! Ofcourse I am not okay with fellow whites been murdered. You have to remember if some arb black guy goes and kills a white in the name of the anc, it is not the ANC behind it! Now with the youth anc it is a whole different story, I do not support malema and his circus. He is a mugabe in the making. - 2011-04-20 14:40

      Means a perfect example

  • Sammy - 2011-04-20 13:03

    hmm I think anyone who does not support this "current" band of thieves "called the ANC" distrusts them AND for good reason!

  • Rustman - 2011-04-20 13:04

    He couldn't have said it better.

  • gizzy - 2011-04-20 13:05

    Well put! Time now, for the ANC to show what they are made up. How I yearn for another Nelson Mandela!

      paulf - 2011-04-20 13:10

      Spot on there Gizzy, I agree with you. The Zuma governemnt is no show case at all.

      kolobe - 2011-04-20 13:27

      so mandela is no longer a terrorist?make your mind boy

      Bones - 2011-04-20 14:04

      Kolobe, you are the booi, not Gizzy.

  • Homo-Sapien - 2011-04-20 13:06

    One Malema, One Bullet! That should make a nice song!

      Marcell - 2011-04-20 13:14

      You don't shoot a pig. You hit it with a hammer between the eyes.

      Chewbacca - 2011-04-20 13:29

      So if they can sing "kill the boer" can we sing "cull the k@%fir"?

      Steen - 2011-04-20 14:10

      @Chewbacca sure you can, but will it make any impact?

      Sam - 2011-04-20 14:16

      @Chewbacca go back to Uerope and be as anti african as possible, we won't care. At like to racist guy at European soccer matches. This is a country of revolution... jou spy

      Mgayi - 2011-04-20 14:46

      @Chewbacca Maybe "kill the darkie" , because Ka**ir is derogatory whilst boer isn't. But then again two wrongs don't make a right , or do they ?

  • prev-ABUSED - 2011-04-20 13:09

    Since when did you have confidence in ANC?

      gizzy - 2011-04-20 13:20

      Only when Mandela was president. Since then it's all about how much you can steal and how fast. Stuff everybody else!

      DeonL - 2011-04-20 13:28

      I agree with gizzy, during Mandela's time and after the boks won in 1995 we had high hopes, it was dashed.

      Sam - 2011-04-20 14:18

      @Gizzy don't lie. He was head on with the national party during elections. Not like whites were voting for him

  • wide awake - 2011-04-20 13:10

    Not just the Afrikaans community that don't trust the ANC. Would be naive and foolish to trust an organisation that has proven itself to be corrupt and racist with no integrity or morals. The only people who could trust the cANCer are the severely brainwashed or those that benefit from the corruption.

      gizzy - 2011-04-20 13:21

      Tseleng you forgot the "D" in died!

      Protest - 2011-04-20 13:22

      @ Tseleng. You can apply for the job of ANC slogan writer.

      mphozania - 2011-04-20 13:30

      @Wide awake. You talking crap.

      Homo-Sapien - 2011-04-20 14:00

      African National Cancer

      Bluemas - 2011-04-20 14:11

      @Aelf Darkies Aside Disaster Alliance Dumb Association Dumb Assholes

      Sam - 2011-04-20 14:19

      They never did, plz tell us something new..

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:22

      Wow so clever from bluebustud. You astound me with your intellect. Apartheids New Commanders (Sounds better than the dumb four you made up)

  • MK007 - 2011-04-20 13:10

    There is good reason for this, the anc is fighting a struggle they have already won, they are stuck in the past and refuses the look forward. Hatred will eventually consume and destroy them.

      Sjamies - 2011-04-20 15:38

      MK007 - I agree with what you say, but just to correct you on one point in your post: 'the anc is fighting a struggle they have already won'. The ANC never won anything. We, collectively, as a nation, came together and dismantled Apartheid.

  • whiteass - 2011-04-20 13:12

    The ANC is only interested in serving their own agenda, and it is time that we realize that we as white South Africans have no part in it; you are dammed if you do and you are dammed if you don’t.

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:23

      Exactly, they only put up a front and be friends with the whites but behind our backs they want ethnic cleansing.

  • Tc - 2011-04-20 13:13

    Yes, we have or self-resepct and will NOT beg! We will also find it difficult to truss liars. We also will not trust any sell-out agents of the ANC.

  • Daniel Jones - 2011-04-20 13:14

    Yep us English guys distrust (actually quite dislike) the African National Criminals too!! My Indian friends also generally agree, and the WC proves the majority of coloreds too. And by the look of things right thinking blacks more and more also.

  • wide awake - 2011-04-20 13:14

    Given the cANCers track record of a useless corrupt racist organization, they are not worthy of being trusted by anyone, the leaders don't even trust each other, why would any minority ever trust such incompetence.

  • DerpyHooves - 2011-04-20 13:14

    Mindblowing revelation! World ending paradox I say!

  • Lufuno - 2011-04-20 13:15

    I think Mr Unionist is trying to influence afrikaners to distrust black people. He should with his racist comments.

      Lufuno - 2011-04-20 13:16

      Sorry, i meant he should stop with his racist comments. They are constantly referring to Malema's comments as racist, but he is doing exactly what Malema does.

      gizzy - 2011-04-20 13:28

      Lufano, you have it wrong there. We have brains and make informed choices on what we see and not what we are told. Only sheep and ANC cadres are influenced!

      enslinac - 2011-04-20 13:44

      you are obviously a confused individual look up the word racist in the dictionary and then try and explain which part of his comments where racist. are you not tired of always the same excuse there are less than 4 million white people in south africa and more than 45million people of colour yet everything is always racist seriously move on it is quite pathetic that by now you have no other excuse other than rasism, we do not control this country so if something goes wrong it is your ANC government and trust me the whites are in a vast minority in that government.

      Totman - 2011-04-20 14:16

      He is talking the truth. Does not mean if someone does not like it, it is not the truth. Remember Lufuno he did not say the white people do not trust the black people. He said they do not trust the ANC. There are plenty other parties that also having mostly black voters, but he mentioned the ANC. This is not racism, but realism. There are even people[lets make them black] in the ANC that is likable, but he mentioned the ANC based on there action/deeds.

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:23

      We distrust you already.

  • c1 - 2011-04-20 13:15

    Give that man a BELLS!

  • JOHNNYBRAVO - 2011-04-20 13:15

    i fear the only thing that has been accomplished is the free publicity for malema and the anc. if anything, they hate the whites even more after this.

      gizzy - 2011-04-20 13:29

      Fortunately they are bringing more blacks and whites together. Many blacks find the ANC of Zuma and Malema a disgrace!

      nick - 2011-04-20 14:00

      Free or not..... it's still bad publicity !

      s.vnolo - 2011-04-20 17:18

      @ Gizzy, most black people know whats happening and dont hate Zuma or Malema, white people hate malema because he calls it as it is, he's not diplomatic in stating the demands of the majority. The truth is the government of Mandela and Mbeki went on as if nothing happened and thought that people would be satisfied with sub-standard houses and welfare which only created more poverty and lack of ambition from the people. Malema and Zuma want economic participation and anyone inside the Party know what we are fighting for, not this BS of us been able to take a piss in the same toilet but economic wealth for as many black people by any means. The Anc MK veterans for the first time after been forgotten by Mbeki and Mandela finally have a little recognition and say in the ANC, all these people trying to sabotage the movement will not prevail, Trust me on that one. So you may call our leaders uneducated but we as the people know that when your people where been offered the best education and opportunities our leaders and youth were either in prison or exile for fighting for justice, freedom and equality. U, ur media, the da cannot mislead us not now not ever

  • onetickie - 2011-04-20 13:16

    With jARSE on the stand he is becoming militant/arrogant under cross-examination. He certainly won't go down without a fight and is a very cunning, individual whom I've said time and again, must be taken seriously as he is a dangerous man. He has bragged that age 9 he was taught to use a firearm. He bragged that with the killing of Chris Hani "HE" was the leader and that they went into the white areas all armed and waiting to be given the order to shoot. He attempted to back-pedal on this at one stage but when pressed admitted that yes, they would have started shooting the whites in the white suburbs where they rallied after, fully armed after the Hani murder. AND HERE IS JUST MY OWN OBSERVATION: HOW COME THE FREEDOM FRONT DID NOT ARM THEMSELVES AND BLAZE INTO THE BLACK AREAS WHEN TERRE BLANCHE WAS MURDERED? jARSE also insists that he/his supporters are still fighting the "system".When asked what system, he said the apartheid system which is still in the here and now (not his exact words obviously). And he made a strong statement that the MEDIA was part of this system. When he was being questioned by his own legal representative he was calm, polite and co-operative but now that he is under cross-examination (during the past hour only) he is already becoming arrogant and openly belligerent.....

      SaintBruce - 2011-04-20 16:14

      We can only hope he is pushed to say something so stupid or to piss off the judge that he breaks the case of "against the system vs against actual persons" - who makes up a political system anyway but actual persons... so no dice on that score. Every Boer and Boer supporter of the definition that a Boer is a real person and / or group of persons; needs to stand up and SAY SO , openly, loudly and publicly on every forum available.

  • - 2011-04-20 13:20

    To my thinking it is a matter of respecting each others cultures and accepting what is good for all people of South Africa. Unfortunately, it is apparent J Malema does not respect anything or anybody but his own image, he believes his ranting is good and all must listen to his rhetoric and believe it as gospel. Therefore the distrust for the ANC and ANCYL by whites in general and I suspect many others of our Rainbow nation.

      whiteass - 2011-04-20 13:28

      You can see when he testifies the arrogance and disrespect

  • Marcell - 2011-04-20 13:23

    Retief trusted Dingaan. Look what happened. When are we going to realise that these 'people' can not be trusted? They only know destruction and chaos.

  • willieman - 2011-04-20 13:24

    Many people said it before that this kind of thing will polirise south africans seems we lack the ability to that some politicians will go as far as dividing our nation.They say Roma was not build in one day.Sixteen years so far we have achieved a lot.LET US FIND A SOLUTION TO THIS ONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

  • marco - 2011-04-20 13:28

    The ANC has become The Biggest Galvanized Monstrosity in the whole of Africa the way they govern South Africa.Like all African countries and African politics,the ANC are retarded in their development,unbridled in their lust for power,steeped in official corruption,chaotic in their political engineering and are sprinting toward total collapse.Their expansion of corporate dominance has accentuated the steady descent into their near economic strangulation and political chaos.They've one and all acted as economic predators in South Africa,gobbling up national resources,distortlng national economic policies,exploiting and changing labor relations,committing environmental despoliation,violating sovereignties,and manipulating governments departments into anachronistic form of management in offering services,houses and yellow T-shirts in return for votes. What would it take for the ANC elite to learn that they cannot exist in a parallel universe where the only truth that matters is the truth decreed by the ANC?To ask these questions is to ask what it would take to humble the ANC elite,to make them realise they cannot continue helping themselves to SA's national kitty without any sense of shame.It is to say that the ANC elite cannot continue to govern as if their political mandate comes directly from God. The ANC will become,like many former liberation movements,a sadder caricature of its former self.Do members of the ANC elite know this?One must suspect they do.Otherwise,why would they be so grubby in their approach to the spoils of office?Would they be so arrogant if they did not have a zero-sum approach to power?

  • Natovr7 - 2011-04-20 13:29

    Afrikaners distrusted the ANC a long time before this.

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-04-20 15:14

      Not new

  • Otello - 2011-04-20 13:29

    Maak uitsprake namens jouself en jul lede Buys. Jy het geen mandaat om namens Afrikaners te praat nie. Net so min soos die Afrikanerbond, ATKV, FAK, Afriforum, Vryheidsfront, NGK, Doppers, AGS, Steve Hofmeyr, FW de Klerk, Max du Preez ens, namens die Afrikaner kan praat. Die dae dat Afrikaners in n laer gejaag kan word is lankal verby. Fie Faai Fou Fam, ek ruik die bloed van n Engelsman.

      Protest - 2011-04-20 13:39

      Wie gaan jy voorstel om namens die Afrikaner the praat? Jouself?

      Steveribs - 2011-04-20 15:55

      Hoe dom moet iemand wees. Malema wil julle opfok en doodmaak maar jy ruik die bloed van 'n engelsman. Dit is geen wonder dat malema blankes wil doodmaak want hy sien hulle as 'n sagte teiken en 'n groep wat nie kan saamstaan en saam terugbakklei nie. Die engelsman is nie jou vyaand nie - word wakker.

      Kristi10 - 2011-04-20 19:35

      Otello asseblief wat het die hele storie met die Engelsman te doen? Gaan terug na jou laer.

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-04-20 13:31

    MISTAKE ----- Include all us people of this so called rainbow nation who are not black and part of this racist power drunk party.

  • Adrian - 2011-04-20 13:31

    What would Mandela say? He would say "Never, never and never again shall it be that this beautiful land will again experience the oppression of one by another and suffer the indignity of being the skunk of the world." Too bad that the values, morals and principles on which a free and democratic South Africa was founded, now are locked up in government books and records...Never to be seen again.

      Zakhele - 2011-04-20 13:36

      Have faith in me. I will clean all this mess. Malema and the bunch will be history before you know it. Just be patient!

  • hookahkid - 2011-04-20 13:35

    i sure as hell don't trust the ANC.. gonna prove it 18 may

  • noctus - 2011-04-20 13:38

    Amen, I will join solidarity as soon as I can.

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-04-20 13:40

    Derek Hanekom

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:25

      Yes he is a wigger, he betrayed his own race by voting for white genocide.

  • Badger - 2011-04-20 13:40

    @ Siya. True. But what about the liberation fighters that killed many innocent women and children. We put that behind us. I cannot keep on blaming you for something some one else did. If every one argue like that then there will be a civil war in this country soon.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-04-20 14:56

      It's like the saying goes: Only the strong find the capability to forgive others, the weak can never forgive anyone.

  • Kristi10 - 2011-04-20 13:40

    @TmanTT - My comment were erased ... possibly because it made the likes of you feel guilty lets go again. Go have a look at the farms that has been "given Back" to "the people". None of them is as productive as they were before and a lot of people has lost their jobs. As to Afrikaners being thieves ... What do you call the way the ANC is governing the country? They are stealing from every single goverment department. The ANC is stealing houses, medical treatment, education etc. from their own people.

  • sibongile.khumalo - 2011-04-20 13:42

    I don't trust the ANC...that's no news!

      Totman - 2011-04-20 14:23

      ......and you do not based your mistrust on race, but on action and deeds. I do understood. It is your right and you most probably will have your reasons for that. If the people can only understand that if you do not agree with the ANC it does not mean your are selling fellow black people out or being a racist.

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:25

      Who do you trust then?

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      Raygunwatson - 2011-04-20 13:45

      Well said!

      Black Sense - 2011-04-20 14:46


  • Psalm - 2011-04-20 13:43

    That's OK. Africans do not trust Solidarity and Afriforum (which, as was raised in court during the Malema trial, finds its roots in the anti-Black Afrikaner group that supported job reservation for whites and objected to Blacks obtain similar rights. Now, like their forefathers, they object to the upliftment of Black people through AA and BEE). Yes, there's nothing new under the sun... We, as Africans, also have self-respect, dear Solidarity. We will not crawl before those who undermine our African dignity and make excuses for past crimes under Apartheid or downplay the economic inequalities brought about by Apartheid.

      VuyosWors - 2011-04-20 13:48

      How can you have dignity when you insist on AA and BEE? SA is the only country in the world where the majority race group enjoys AA priviledges. Thats how useless they are.

      Psalm - 2011-04-20 13:56

      @ VuyosWors How can whites claim to have any decency, self-respect or an iota of morality when many of them get out of their houses built on stolen land, to go to church and pretendd to be "righteous" and come back to their houses built on stolen land? Yet they think they are morally superior to Africans. How can any white person who is the child of a white person who made money from employment positions obtained under the job reservation scheme for whites dare to hypocritically criticise AA and BEE? Clearly there is no self-respect, decency or an iota or morality there.

      WiseOwl2 - 2011-04-20 13:58

      Pity the ANC leaders dont have,pride,self respect,dignity or integrity.

      1GoodGirl - 2011-04-20 13:58

      @ Psalm: You come across as racist! We owe you nothing! You owe yourselves . . . Uplift yourselves instead of demanding things from white people! Its been 17 years! Where's your self-respect man?

      Psalm - 2011-04-20 14:09

      @ 1GoodGirl Return the stolen land and then you can claim to owe nothing. Furthermore, here is my comment on Black upliftment, which I have previously posted on News24: "I think that upliftment of blacks should be planned from a "black-only" perspective. Essentially, as blacks we must start from the presumption that whites in SA are not interested in transformation or in partnering with us. This simply means that, like the S. Koreans, our approach should be to build OUR OWN corporations to claim market dominance in SA. Bantu education killed the entrepreneurial & ambitious spirit in blacks- we must regain this. Our government should look at partnering with Japan, S. Korea- as blacks we can learn much from their business approaches. We also share similar values of community, respect, loyalty & discipline with them. Blacks have forgotten that it is NOT African to beg or to expect someone else to build you a house. Our forefathers would be APPALLED that African MEN are expecting others to give them houses! It is UNAFRICAN! What has happened to our dignity? We must build OUR OWN corporations, list OUR OWN corporations, employ OUR OWN people, invest in OUR communities, etc. We are FULLY capable of taking over the economy. The Japanese & S.Koreans don't look to whites. Besides, the West is losing its economic dominance to emerging markets. The sky is the limit for blacks in SA - if we rely on OURSELVES and do it for ourselves." Are you happy now?!

      Psalm - 2011-04-20 14:13

      @ 1GoodGirl Oh, BTW, I am a chick... And I really don't give a hoot how you perceive me as you clearly wish to downplay the economic inequalities from Apartheid. Call me racist a thousand times if you like - that's neither here nor there.

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:26

      Solidarity and Afriforum are also not singing songs about killing blacks are they. Who is more civilised now?

      Sam - 2011-04-20 14:34

      @Psalm... may I paste this on my facebook. I like that part

      Sam - 2011-04-20 14:41

      @1GoodGirl our mistake was to not take whats our forcefully and immediately. Thinking the mature way will work. Don't talk about self respect, yr the last person to talk about it. We refuse to take advice from thieves.

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-20 14:44

      @ Psalm, well I know you made sure my last post got erased, the truth hurts!! What I said was, You say the Europeans stole YOUR country, but in that same way, the Blacks stole the country from the Khoi and San people, no difference... except we moved on, and you are still fighting for the past!!! So what stolen land are you reffering too?? the land YOU stole, that the Europeans later took from you???

      1GoodGirl - 2011-04-20 14:47

      Economic inequalities of apartheid? What a load of SH!T! What we had in apartheid years, WE worked for. You came and took it! . . . And Give back the land that I stole?? Go to your nearest police station and report me then!! I am not even a land owner, and havent stollen anything from anyone! Can you say the same?? You have a typical beggar mentality . . . no actually worse! You, the people DEMAND! You haven't EARNED a damn thing!!! Your attitude reveales your character. Quite sad actually! But, hey, what do I know . . . Just do my work, and pay my taxes so that people like you can have a better life!

      Psalm - 2011-04-20 14:53

      @ chrismtb007 Clearly you suffer from grand delusions. I do not even know what post/comment you're talk about. Yawn, the Khoi and San were in the uttermost Southern part of SA. Ofcourse when the murderous colonialists arrived they essentially undertook a genocide against them. Tribal wars between the Khoi, San and, for example, the Xhosa's were never on a genocidal scale. That dubious priviledge is reserved for your ancestors.

      jds - 2011-04-20 14:53

      @Psalm-I like that you realise that blacks need to build their own corporations etc. This is 100% the opposite of BEE/AA!!your statement basically goes against the crap you said about stolen land and businesses that you want back! How is corporations built, when you receive it for free?

      Psalm - 2011-04-20 14:53

      @ Sam Feel free to :-)

      Psalm - 2011-04-20 14:55

      @ Psychotron Civilised is not a word that any decent person would use to describe those who downplay a crime against humanity- Apartheid.

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-20 15:03

      Psalm, yes, the southern most tip of Africa, nowadays called South Africa... and it extended throughout the northern areas we know as Zim today, Botswana etc..... You my dear need to go a bit more thoroughly through history, and then we can talk again!!!

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-20 15:11

      @ Psalm, quoted from wikipedia: "Around AD 1,000 Bantu tribes began to expand into bushman occupied areas and pushed the bushmen into more inhospitable areas such as the Kalahari desert." 1000 AD, there were no whites in this country!!!!!! so who is to blame??? THE BANTU!!!! go study!!!

      enslinac - 2011-04-20 15:23

      @psalm, you are such a victim when the ANC came into power they took over a fully functioning, prosperous country after 17years of "Democracy" your own brothers and sisters are demonstrating against the lack of service delivery. it is your country, but yet you blame the white "apartheid" government for your woes a government that ended 17 years ago. what have you done with this once beautiful country? you stuffed it up and continue to do so. these leaders of yours that you so defend are nothing but thieves the worts part is that they are stealing from you and your children. yet you do nothing. it is so easy to blame white south Africans for every thing that is going wrong in your lives. do yourself a favor and calculate in the past 17 years how much money has been stolen from the government through tender fraud / plain theft / over paying for basic contracts etc. and then calculate how many houses could have been build with that money how many hospitals and schools could have been build with that money......... and when you are honest with yourself you will realize that your government is destroying your south Africa. but yet no matter what i or anybody else says you are still going to vote for them come may the 18th and then you are still going to blame "white " south Africans for everything. ignorance must be bliss

      Psalm - 2011-04-20 15:32

      @ chrismtb007 The quote says "pushed". There is no mention of genocide. That still remains the dubious priviledge of your ancestors. There is no mention of mass slaughter. That, as usual, is the colonialists' dubious honour. African tribes had been "pushing" each other into various parts of the continent. Have you no knowledge of this continent? And yet you'll probably wish to claim to be "African". Clearly you know nothing about this continent and its history.

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-20 15:39

      @ Psalm, justt as your own leader Julius Malema, love to twist things around, yes, "push" was used, now what is ment by push is actually forced, if they didnt leave, then they would have been killed, do you think they moved voluntaraly into the Kalahari?? and, the point was that the BANTU took the land from the Bushmen, you didnt agree, so I showed you, now you are changing the whole concept.... The truth Hurts... you are a racist, and there are NO place for you in this country... Good bye!!

      Psalm - 2011-04-20 15:41

      @ enslinac I am not an ANC, so if you wish to raise your issues regarding the party go find them at Luthuli House. No white South African has given me anything. So, please get off your loonie planet.

      enslinac - 2011-04-20 15:45

      @Psalm. thank you for proving my point such an intelligent come back you must be proud of yourself.

      Psalm - 2011-04-20 15:45

      @ jds We want the stolen land - not your corporations. Read my comment again and try to grasp it. I am pointing out the hypocrisy of your Afriforum and Solidarity.

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-20 15:46

      and to put this into context, the Bantu didnt know of money or richess, there was nothing in this country when the europeans arrived, the economy that you are reffering too was created by the european, the ANC took it over, and now made it yours, now in my books that is stealing!! now you fight to get more, but you dont have a clue on how to make an economy your eyes Psalm, corruption is good, the Billions of rands stolen from the people of this country, day in and day out we hear about more corruption, but yet, you see nothing wrong with this... you still vote, and even worse, you stand up for this... are you just being ignorant, or are you really this stupid??? Show me one good thing that this government has established in teh last 17 years that doesnt involve a white person......

      Psalm - 2011-04-20 15:54

      @ 1GoodGirl And yet the world calls you criminals against humanity. You see, GoodGirl, the Holocaust was genocide (a crime against humanity). The Holocaust ended in 1945- YET THE JEWS CONTINUE TO RECLAIM THEIR STOLEN PROPERTY FROM THE CHILDREN & HEIRS OF THE CRIMINAL NAZIS. Get that? Apartheid is defined as a crime against humanity under international law and the thieves must give back their ill-gotten gains. Don't worry- we will get back what was stolen from Africans. And by the way, foolish ignorant girl, I hold FOUR degrees (one of them a post graduate from abroad). I have worked and studied abroad - no white South African gave me jack. So, take your ignoramus mentality to your Neo-Nazi gatherings. It sure has nothing intelligent or of value to add here.

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-20 16:01

      and again I will say it |Psalm, you stole the land from teh bushmen, so if we should give back the land, then so should you!!! then the only persons allowed here are the bushmen!!! STOP BEING SUCH A RACIST. The white man gave you that computer, the car you drive, the clothes you wear... Thats what teh white man gave you... or are you still wearing goat skins??

      whiteass - 2011-04-20 16:17

      @Psalm A Trade union is not supposed to influence or affect your political views, they serve to improve you employment environment, and the same can not be said about Cosato and similar ANC unions. Furthermore as we whites you were not the first occupants of SA

      Point Blank - 2011-04-20 16:33

      Pslam, this is not your land. We can't give it back when it was never yours. The land I own is mine, I bought it from a bank. 99% of farmers bought the farms they did not steal it. You my friend live in a delusional world... far removeed from reality. Your brain turned to mash from too much propaganda and one sided stories...

      Psalm - 2011-04-20 17:11

      @ Point Blank Don't worry Point Blank, the Africans will get their land back from the thieves. Trying to deflect issues is not going to change the fact that whites stole land from Africans. Africans will get it back. You can rage, you can threaten, you can disparage Africans as much as you all enjoy doing on this forum; but I place it on record here and now, the Africans will ultimately prevail. You see, you and your kind come here to rant and rage against us - feel free. Rant, rage. We have a saying in Sotho when someone throws crying theatrics: "Motlogele. Olla meetse, alle madi" my spelling is probably BAD (meaning: Leave him/her. S/he is crying tears, not blood). Insult us, call us names, mock us, lie about us, despise us, revile us, try to discredit us, shout about the "swart gevaar", make snide remarks that we are "uneducated", "stupid" and "savage"- but we are not retreating. We will also get control of the economy. We are not retreating. And we make no apology to you and your like.

      Red Rose - 2011-04-20 21:10

      Whites brought education, fridges, washing machines, brick homes, civilization etc to South Africa. When Whites arrived in the Cape 1652 the wheel had not even been invented yet in South Africa. Biblically and DNA wise Blacks came from North Africa, Ehtiopia, (see the descendants of Ham), the area given to them by God, NOT THE SOUTH. The Whites made a Covenant with God, at the Battle of Blood River 1838 where 400 boer trusted God to win this battle against 10.000 blacks warriors and that they would serve God if He saved them. They won the battle. The reason Whites lost their status as leaders because they were not fair to the black man, and so if sowing and reaping is on it's way around again, the blacks are due to reap with their unjust policies (including abortion). Whites are the one's bringing balance to Africa. The South Africa is still reasonably stable, until the last white man leaves. Acts 17:26-27 (CEV) 26 From one person (Adam) God made all nations who live on earth, and he decided when and where every nation would be. 27 God has done all this, so that we will look for him and reach out and find him. He isn't far from any of us, Proverbs 18:21 (MSG) Words kill, words give life; they're either poison or fruit—you choose. Whites do not want to fight, they want to live without fear and in safety, peace and have the same opportunities as the Black man has but with Malema, even my stomach turns. I can relate to how the Afrikaner feels.

      Red Rose - 2011-04-20 21:12

      Whites brought education, fridges, washing machines, brick homes, civilization etc to South Africa. When Whites arrived in the Cape 1652 the wheel had not even been invented yet in South Africa. Biblically and DNA wise Blacks came from North Africa, Ehtiopia, (see the descendants of Ham), the area given to them by God, NOT THE SOUTH. The Whites made a Covenant with God, at the Battle of Blood River 1838 where 400 boer trusted God to win this battle against 10.000 blacks warriors and that they would serve God if He saved them. They won the battle. The reason Whites lost their status as leaders because they were not fair to the black man, and so if sowing and reaping is on it's way around again, the blacks are due to reap with their unjust policies (including abortion). Whites are the one's bringing balance to Africa. South Africa is still reasonably stable, until the last white man leaves. Acts 17:26-27 (CEV) 26 From one person (Adam) God made all nations who live on earth, and he decided when and where every nation would be. 27 God has done all this, so that we will look for him and reach out and find him. He isn't far from any of us, Proverbs 18:21 (MSG) Words kill, words give life; they're either poison or fruit—you choose. Whites do not want to fight, they want to live without fear and in safety, peace and have the same opportunities as the Black man has but with Malema, even my stomach turns. I can relate to how the Afrikaner feels.

      Psalm - 2011-04-21 09:25

      @ Red Rose Contrary to your white supremacist views, we do speak of an African Civilization- you seem to think that Africans had or have no civilization. Furthermore the whites, as a whole, are not chosen of God and they have no Biblical Covenant with the Elohim of Avraham, Yitzak and Yaacov. They hold no special place before God and your claim to a Covenant is rather bizarre. Afterall, there is a Biblical figure who undoutedly also claimed a vile "covenant" with God. He asked God to bring him victory and vowed to sacrifice the first thing that came out to meet him after his victory. Well, his daughter was the first to come out to meet him. Remember that? So, I must put the whites on trial today. HOW did they serve God after this so-called vow of theirs? They did not serve God, they served greed and their murderous intentions. Stealing land, oppressing the natives of the land, using torture against those who wanted their freedom, murdering the natives, etc. THOSE are offenses against the Most High God. The Bible is clear- the thief must repay what he stole (that includes land). He who murders must die- that is Torah. So, please do not come here and misuse the Holy Bible to support crimes against humanity (i.e. apartheid). Feel free to leave SA, if you wish. It is not you maintaining peace. It is the Almighty. While you whites sang Die Stem to praise yourselves, the Africans cried to YHWH saying "Morena boloka sechaba sa rona". Who do you think God heard?

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-21 09:47

      hahahaha, Psalm, thats right, ignore my statements, i see now you are preaching, and your name even suggest that you read the bible.. Well missy, I have news for you, crying racism and telling whites that you will kill them, seriously would not stand in yoru religion... you are a joke.... You think you are intelegent, yet you always try to twist the facts, you have proven this over and over on this forum.... Just admit it, You are a racist, you have a huge chip on your shoulder, come on, we are all waiting.. I have asked you a lot of questions, and you cannot answer them.... I mean really, are you this ignorant or are you just craving the attention??

      Psalm - 2011-04-21 13:15

      @ chrismtb007 The contribution that white South Africans are known worldwide for is in committing crimes against humanity - apartheid. You boast of being white and imply being superior due to your European roots. Europe is nothing without Jews who have brought much to humanity. Ofcourse the Europeans despise them for this. Hence, the holocaust, European progroms, severe discrimination against them. I note this because the very basis of so-called "European Christian Civilization" you owe to the Jews. Christianity (i.e. salvation) is of the Jews. But for the religion of the Jews (which your forefathers resisted with a savagery that only Europeans can think up) what would you have? But for the civilising influence of the Jews, you would have nothing to boast about. Committing crimes against humanity is clear evidence of not being "civilized". I saw nothing intelligent in your comments - that's all. Go do some reading on great Africans and learn a thing or two. Honestly your sense of "superiority" is rather silly.

  • Neil - 2011-04-20 13:45

    The ANC needs to take a leaf out of Mandela's book - in fact what should happen at the current trial is that Afriforum approach Mandela to ask him to testify why - under his administration - the NEC prohibited this totally unecessary chant. No doubt Afrikaaners sung 'Kill the Brits' at one stage in their history and the Brits 'kill the Germans' etc etc. Well in a peacetime context such chants - historical or not - are complete lunacy. And that is where Malema is: a dangerous lunatic who - like Mugabe - ultimately belongs in the dustbin of history.

      Sam - 2011-04-20 14:41

      I agree with you. The man got us a raw deal

      Dilika - 2011-04-20 16:09

      Neil you are confused. The ANC only stopped the chanting of "Kill the boer, kill the farmer" and not the singing of "Ayesaba amagwala". These two are different chief. Remember if you ban something people will defy you and sing it. After the chant was "banned" the composer (late Peter Mokaba) attended a youth rally at Orlando Stadium and the whole stadium errupted in unision chanting that slogan.

  • Dal68 - 2011-04-20 13:45

    I as a white Afrikaner distrust the anc absolutely, they have shown that they are not interested in us as a part of South Africa to the utmost in this court case. How ignorant must a white Afrikaner be to trust this corrupt political party. No I am not a racist, I am a realist and I have my eyes wide open to what is happening in this beuatiful country of ours.

      Sam - 2011-04-20 14:43

      U never did so...? I am not surprised

  • DrGräfenberg - 2011-04-20 13:47

    so "Skiet die K@ffir" Hoe voel julle nou?????

      Kristi10 - 2011-04-20 13:54

      Dit was regtig nie nodig nie. Two wrongs don't make a right...

      DrGräfenberg - 2011-04-20 14:12

      @Kristi10 So plaas moorde en verkragting is ok met jou???

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-20 14:47

      @DrGrafenberg... Sy het nerens gese plaasmoorde is reg nie... mense soos jy is die rede vir al hierdie onrus, julle maak asof alle swart mense sleg is.... Jy mnr, moet ook geskiedenis agter jouself sit, en voorentoe beweeg, jy klink net soos Malema, jy redeneer deur jou agter ent!!!

      Kristi10 - 2011-04-20 19:40

      @DrG - Ek het nooit eers gese dat plaasmoorde reg is met my nie. my neef is verlede jaar vermoor op sy plaas en my oom en tannie geskiet drie weke terug op hulle plaas. Ek het self op 'n plaas groot geword en is elke dag bekommerd oor baie van my familie wat not op plase bly. Wat ek wel gese het is dat om mense name te noem is nie reg dit laat ons daal tot op Malema se vlak en al die Afikanders wat ek ken is baie bo hom verhewe so asseblief laat ons die tot daai klonkie se vlak daal nie dit is onnodig.

      Black Sense - 2011-04-20 23:10

      My Afrikaans is poor but thank you Kristi10. I'm sorry about your losses and seriously impressed with your level headedness. I hope "Kolobe" is listening and "Sam" too.

  • Wayne - 2011-04-20 13:49

    The IFP distrusts the ANC,the Afrikaners distrust the ANC, the ANC distrusts the ANC...

  • chris.heyde1 - 2011-04-20 13:53

    Flip Buys, neither you or Afriforum speaks on behalf of me, although I am a proud Afrikaner! Who the hell do you think you are? Bloody agent!

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:29

      Who does speak on behalf of you then?

  • cheekyroman - 2011-04-20 13:59

    Shame poor AFRKAANER... Look at this statement made "It would see as if there is a total inability within the ANC to look beyond its own narrow ideological and racial boundaries to consider the interests of all in the country". Who put the racial fear into the ANC??????

  • PikeLee - 2011-04-20 14:07

    These people forget.If not for boers, or farmers, we would all be starving. You have seen what happens when you give a farm to a person who has no idea how to farm. It becomes his personnel toilet. Mind boggling how you guys want to bite the hand that feeds you, and then you will be the first to run to your previous "colonialist invaders" and beg them for handouts.

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:41

      Think of it like this over 1000 - 2000 years ago mighty civilisations were in existence in Europe. Architecture was booming, science and maths were booming. Laws were setup to govern countries (even though they were primitive then). But here in darkest Africa, mud huts is all that could be accomplished. If it wasn't for colonialism, Africa would still be 1000 years behind the times.

  • Bill - 2011-04-20 14:08

    No, the ANC distrust the ANC

  • GreatSA - 2011-04-20 14:09

    Why are we still singing songs from the past when the struggle is over? We should be looking forward and creating NEW songs that unite ALL South Africans. Songs that make all South Africans want to stand up and sing together. Songs that ALL of us feel part of. Songs that will make us stand together and say “we are proudly South African” and we are happy to sing these songs together. South Africa united as one – not sing songs that demoralize one section of society, etc. All we are doing by singing struggle songs, is creating a rift between South Africans and it is now time to close that rift and regard ALL South Africans with the respect they deserve. We pay our tax and we should be thanked for that and we should be respected for that. We vote at the elections and we should be thanked and respected for that. Without the tax payers and voters, government would not have a job. So create songs that thank South Africans for doing their part to BUILD South Africa. Let’s stand together and stop fighting over struggle songs of the past and let’s create new songs about the future and unite all South Africans and let the world look at us a nation that stands together and a nation that THEY can look up to.

      Psychotron - 2011-04-20 14:37

      That means you are trying to erase the history of the black man. You can't do that. All the other history they had must have been erased along the lines because it seems they don't know who they are so they need to sing songs about killing whites, therefore they are agents of white genocide.

  • Voice - 2011-04-20 14:14

    Come on people, you can never trust the ANC, if the Afrikaner still don't know it by now then they will never know that!!!! Wake up Afrikaner,wake up!!! See what is happening around you.

  • keaobaka Mokae - 2011-04-20 14:24

    Where does this case/litigation come from? Who says the "impugned song" is tantamount to hate speech? The judge in this case has not made a ruling as he is still hearing/listening to both sides. We must learn to wait for the outcome of cases before we start exchanging opinions. Let us respect the sub judice rule. You can only fear what you don't know or understand.

      VuyosWors - 2011-04-20 14:28

      We know that a few THOUSAND farmers have been murdered since 1994.

      Cire - 2011-04-20 19:17

      As far as I understand it, the total number of farmers (never mind other white people) butchered in SA in one year far exceeds the total number of similar people butchered during 18 years of war in Zimbabwe. If blacks had been slaughetred on this scale since 1948, there would have been world outrage and SA suspended from the UN (not that that matters much!)

  • derkus - 2011-04-20 14:36

    i could shut his mouth but my fly is stuck

  • tjoppie - 2011-04-20 14:45

    the thing is steen!! we dont want to move to OZ! your gonna try and try to chase us off, but its never gonna happen!! the poor black comunity sitting in theyr shacks are going to get fed up with you fat cats drivng your BM's and living large! and it is them that will free the coutry from the corrupt fatcats running it now!! and then we will see jour own people chasing you to OZ or Zim! the black people got fed up with a bad system once, and they will again!!

  • Extra - 2011-04-20 14:59

    On 18 May, take your family, cousins, boyfriends, girlfriends to those polling stations to vote ANC. Make no mistake VOTE ANC!

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-04-20 15:16

      Yes I will

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-20 15:20

      and see this country end up in shambles!!!! No money, no food, nothing!!! lets vote for the killing of the country, lets vote ANC!!!! remember, make no mistake.........

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-20 15:23

      and see this country end up in shambles!!!! No money, no food, nothing!!! lets vote for the killing of the country, lets vote ANC!!!! remember, make no mistake.........

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-04-20 15:39

      My vote is my right,

      Point Blank - 2011-04-20 16:37

      Then don't bitch about corruption, lack of service delivery, unemployment. Be glad that you got a tap at the bottom of the road. That police shoot dead protesters, The ANC elite members sit in palaces while your RDP house falls apart...

      chrismtb007 - 2011-04-21 09:53

      Yup, your vote is your right, but to be ignorent and stupid as a rock is also your right!!!!

  • keaobaka Mokae - 2011-04-20 16:11

    Whites are generally ignorant & insular and this they learned from the previous era of apartheid & colonialism. This misplaced fear & paranoia comes largely from this embedded ignorance & insularity, and I think it Afriforum, Solidarity and other similar movements are acting out of that ignorance by bringing this case.The unfortunate aspect of this is that it is being passed to current & future generations. If those with this misplaced fear were to take time to understand the history and context of the struggle and the importance of singing in the fight against colonialism, apartheid and white supremacy they would understand why it is important to preserve this very crucial aspect of who we are and where we come from. As a proud and unapologizing African I can't relate to the importance of the voortrekker monument, the great trek or the Anglo-boer war but you don't see me/us calling for their obliteration because there are people who hold those totems and events very dear however misplaced I might find those endearments. "for to be free is not merely to cast off ones chains, but to live in a way that enhances and respects the freedom of others"-Nelson Mandela. How do you respect something that you don't know or understand as respect is the most important of the quote from Mr. Mandela.

      Point Blank - 2011-04-20 16:53

      Screw you, "Whites are generally ignorant & insular.." who the hell do you think you are??

      Point Blank - 2011-04-20 16:56

      Sing the song change the lyrics. Simple... it is offensive. Bottom line. Drawing a cartoon of the prophet Muhamed is offensive to Muslims so you wouldn't draw it would you? No. So why would you insist on singing lyrics about killing farmers when it is offensive to them. That my firend is sheer arrogance and basically tells Afrikaans people that you don't give a f*** if it is offensive to them. You my friend are the ignorant and selfish ones...

      whiteass - 2011-04-20 18:08

      @ KEAOBAKA MOKAE If it wasn’t for the whites or colonialism you would still be sitting on a rock guarding you cattle

      Cire - 2011-04-20 19:15

      You appear to be deeply ignorant of your own history and of the people with whom you share this country

  • Freddie - 2011-04-20 17:08

    Not only Afrikaners... all whites distrust the ANC corruption and nepotism R Us racist closed society.

      gizzy - 2011-04-20 18:31

      And many blacks hate them as well