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Swearing incident unfortunate - Shivambu

2011-07-14 11:38

Johannesburg - ANC Youth League spokesperson Floyd Shivambu will not swear at journalists again, he said on Thursday.

"The recent past incident of a [Media24] journalist who was disgustingly making a media enquiry with the ANCYL is unfortunate and will never happen again," he said in a statement.

"The incident does not represent the attitude of the ANCYL to the media in general, but was a specific incident which was unfortunate and will never happen again."

Shivambu was responding to reports that he repeatedly swore at Media24 Investigations journalist Jacques Dommisse, who had called him to arrange an interview with ANCYL president Julius Malema.

Shivambu said "fuck you" to Dommisse and told him to "fuck off".

'Disgustingly provocative methods'


He did not apologise in the statement issued on Thursday.

He said the media chose to "engage in disgustingly provocative methods and means of engagement" with the ANCYL.

It also aimed to "divert attention" from the ANCYL's resolutions at its national conference.

Media24 reported that ANCYL president Julius Malema paid R78 000 for a three-day stay with five friends at the "ultra-luxurious" five-star Royal Malewane next to the Kruger National Park.

According to the report, the luxury stay happened shortly before the ANCYL's national conference, where Malema sold himself as the "champion of the poor".

Dommisse had wanted to interview Malema about the trip.

During the conversation, Shivambu told Dommisse: "I said fuck you".

Asked if he was swearing at him, Shivambu replied: "Yes".

"Why do you do that?" asked Dommisse.

"Because you cannot force yourself to speak to people if they do not speak to you. What is your problem?" asked Shibamvu.

"I do not have a problem," said Dommisse.

"Fuck you. Fuck off. Okay," said Shivambu.

Unacceptable, says ANC

ANC chairperson Baleka Mbete condemned Shivambu's behaviour, saying it was "unacceptable" for someone speaking on behalf of any part of the ANC to swear to get their point across.

"I totally disagree with any bad language being used by anybody who is communicating on behalf of any part of the ANC," she said.

"I think that's regrettable, it's not language to be used... I'm saying anybody expressing themselves in a way that's swearing at anybody, it is unacceptable.

"You don't use language like that, you don't have to swear at people or be rude to people to make your point.

"You can make your point using decent language."

Comments
  • Mdavu-zn - 2011-07-14 11:41

    So this Shivambu thought Malema would backup him!! Unfortunately he didn't. Next time or behave Shivambu OR YOU JUMP.

      Man.Dumisani - 2011-07-14 11:48

      So is Floyd and the ANCYL too big to apologise now? Are they so puffed up with pride that they can't even say 'sorry'?

      McDaNife - 2011-07-14 11:53

      Yep he thought he would be protected by Malema, probably Malema to Shivambu to fokoff

      Together - 2011-07-14 11:53

      "The recent past incident of a News24 journalist who was disgustingly making a media enquiry with the ANCYL is unfortunate and will never happen again," he said in a statement.... Why is it impossible for anyone in the youth league to take responsibility for anything? It's the journalist's fault for asking questions about a large sum of cash, and the spokesperson's reaction is not him using his mouth inappropriately - it's an unfortunate incident.

      TBOOZE - 2011-07-14 11:56

      too soon to talk Mdavu, I'm sure in his next speech he will mention this , Julius never fail to seek attention even the ANC cant control him,he just pops up everywhere and the media seem to be playing to his tune,.........i wonder what would happen if only SABC report about him, starve him publicity and this whole Julius hype will die

      winter123 - 2011-07-14 11:56

      Malema didn't back him up because he has integrity, he neglected to do so because what has he really got to say for himself? He has no excuse for spending so much money and frankly, I think he simply doesn't care that he doesn't practice what he preaches...

      Kleinjan - 2011-07-14 12:03

      Mad man, please post your physical address in this page. I want to come and say hello. ;-)

      MaanDonkie - 2011-07-14 12:17

      Any bets on the Sharks Blue Bulls game on Saturday?

      daaivark - 2011-07-14 12:18

      Like hell he was provoked Mad Max. The journalist asked him a simple question and he became abusive. Journalists are supposed to ask questions, or have you other ideas regarding that as well?

      ZACommentator - 2011-07-14 12:52

      He should be fired, simple as that.

      Spyker May - 2011-07-14 12:53

      Shivambu's "sudden" reserved, benevolent stance and the ANC's "appropriate" response, should not distract our attention away from one VERY pivotal matter - inter alia: 1. Was there a transaction conducted worth R 78 000-00 in CASH..? YES or NO..? 2. If so, FICA requires ALL cash transactions of R 25 000 and larger to be reported to the Financial Intelligence Centre - was this indeed done..? YES or NO..? 3. On a reported salary of R 20k per month, while resolutely denying that he is the director of-, and/or involved in any way with company/ies that benefit from state-/municipal tenders - how did the individual that presented the R 78k in cash, access such a amount of cash..? As the official opposition, I FORMALLY CHALLENGE THE DA, TO RAISE (at least items 1. and 2.) IN PARLIAMENT. PS: Mad man - happy trolling. Do your parents know what you are up to?

      TheWasp - 2011-07-14 12:53

      Julie-arse and Floyd are human Trash!

      The Wonderer - 2011-07-14 13:05

      I don't think Shivambu & Malema will ever apologise to a white guy!

      Kenno - 2011-07-14 14:07

      @Madman. You are an ignorant, moronic,racist, fool! Clearly you are a waste of skin and a disgusting individual. Remember people like you will see their arse, and we will all stand around laughing! @News24 Why is this ignorant racist allowed on this site? You are also to blame for allowing these comments!

      Kenno - 2011-07-14 14:11

      @Blackswan...If you want to be in the public eye and are as vocal as your dumb hero, then you will be reported in the news!! Sadly nobody cares what thehell you do with your spare time, cause you are a nobody....so is Malema, but you fools who support his arrogant ignorant ramblins dont think so. Maybe look at yourselves!

      BOFFINBOB - 2011-07-14 14:13

      So....Madmans comment is acceptable to news 24 & muy comment on wondering how fat @ssed strikers are actually able to " march " ( waddle )without collapsing was removed. Very, very strange indeed.

      Vicker - 2011-07-14 14:33

      @Mad man: Remember what happened at Blood River? That will look like a Sunday afternoon picnic if what you want actually transpires...

      DW - 2011-07-14 14:48

      mad man is a troll. Please dont feed him. Dead giveaway is when he called Shivambu a "boy"

      Together - 2011-07-14 15:42

      @ the Wonderer: Floyd should apologise to the constituents that he is supposed to represent with dignity. And does the ANCYL discriminate against white South African youth? If so, thank you for letting us know.

      ReThan - 2011-07-14 15:52

      Mad man, if you have not realised this by now but everything you have had is fscked up, look at all our systems its all a mess! when it was given to you it was almost perfect. Now STFU and go pay in traffic you uneducated twat.

      alicia - 2011-07-14 16:34

      Madman, I wish you would do what Floyd told the journalist to do. Remember what you wish upon others, visits you. Maybe soon. Hatred kills one from inside.

      IBI - 2011-07-15 00:55

      In my 40 years experience with them, they most likely are giggeling behind their hands. They dont care two stuffs about the incident; simply damage control, specially against a Dommisse.

      Krush - 2011-07-15 10:15

      No, the swearing incident was not unfortunate, it was lack of manners and an unintelligent mind. Your birth, not that was unfortunate.

  • JadedKnight - 2011-07-14 11:44

    Go blow it out your a$$ Shivambu, nobody gives a damn about your antics. We all know you're despot wanna-be riding on Malema's coat tails!

      TBOOZE - 2011-07-14 11:59

      This Shivambu dude is just a Julius wanna be, I wonder how far this whole Julius wave will take him

      MrSpiderman - 2011-07-14 16:11

      @JadedKnight: Reminds me of the clichè: "Small things amuse small minds!"

      Creeky - 2011-07-14 16:32

      If Floys is a Julius WANNA-BE... he will have to also parade as an "AGTER-MEKAAR MANNETJIE"... Then again, hell hath no fury like a JILTED LOVER SCORNED!

      JadedKnight - 2011-07-15 11:11

      lol@creeky - Good one!

      PunkBuster - 2011-07-15 12:40

      I wonder what they got up to the weekend that cost 78K?? Shivambu was probably eating sushi off Malema's body. That was a disturbing image...

  • PMG - 2011-07-14 11:44

    Tacky,tacky,tacky - such poor class.It just shows you that BEE illegal Limpopo tender money cant buy you class.

      Steviewunduh - 2011-07-14 12:12

      Can't even buy you a seat in a woodwork class!

      GT - 2011-07-14 12:50

      It CAN buy you one, it cant BUILD you one

      v3 - 2011-07-14 14:11

      Coming from Foul-Mouthed Floyd anything he says is as meaningless as his constant use of "disgusting". Reminds me of Saddam's spokesmoron, known as Comical Ali. Mind you, how much worse is he than Jimmy "Verwoerd" Manyi?

  • willieman - 2011-07-14 11:44

    So why don't you be man enough and apologise,sooner or later you will be outside ANCYL.What you say(BE CAREFUL) today may follow you if you intend to be a politician.Grow up man you have a small baby, my brother

      jds - 2011-07-14 12:12

      According to Jimmy Manyi it is "African culture" to not apologise!Need we say more?!!lol

      Azizi - 2011-07-14 12:26

      jds 'you people' have such a problem with african culture. Jimmy's mind is clouded because of his Model C education.

      Azizi - 2011-07-14 13:10

      What can I say MK?

  • myancmyfutur - 2011-07-14 11:46

    Yeah right Floyd, we'll take your word for it.

  • Fanny Mc Pee - 2011-07-14 11:46

    ANC chairperson Baleka Mbete's "condemnation of Shivambu's behaviour" is about as real as the irritating Outsurance Facebook "like-comment" adverts on News 24.

  • Bok Fan - 2011-07-14 11:46

    No man wena I LIKE my Yob League leaders dumb, dirty and degraded !!! * "Dont go changin just to please us We don't want clever, conversation, We never want to work that hard, we just want someone, that we can laugh at, We want you just the way you are." *singing

  • PB - 2011-07-14 11:48

    For someone to be a 'spokesperson', it is generally accepted that that person is actually able to communicate verbally in such a way that other people can understand what he is saying. After listening to the video clip, I could figure out the words Malema, no and of course the F-bombs. Maybe Floyd should be sent for some elocution lessons.

      Bok Fan - 2011-07-14 12:29

      So are you saying that words failed Floored or that Floored failed words ?

      Wired - 2011-07-14 16:23

      Why Elocution lessons.. how about electrocution lessons instead.

  • Moi1980 - 2011-07-14 11:48

    So politely asking questions is now labelled as "disgustingly making a media enquiry"??? How times have changed...

      Together - 2011-07-14 13:29

      Not really - what's scary is how these times feel just like the bad old days under the Nats. They used to fear journalists and talk to them the same way.

  • 1gascan - 2011-07-14 11:49

    "Floyd Shivambu will not swear at journalists again" - Not at anyone Floyd - you are supposed to be a public servant! But then again, your leash isn't very tight at all, is it? This is the kind of "quality leadership" everyone can expect from South Africa - especially after the president openly told the youth that "they are the future". I am worried about this kind of youth running the show - theses attitudes get you nowhere, regardless of who you are attacking...

      GT - 2011-07-14 12:52

      he is not a public servant, he is self servant

      Creeky - 2011-07-14 14:59

      Yep... he is Malema's SERVANT!!!

  • Thats_that - 2011-07-14 11:53

    Clown

      Liberty - 2011-07-14 13:19

      Floyed and Malema = Laurel and Hardy

      Azizi - 2011-07-14 13:51

      Thats rich coming from you Liberty.

  • Zaq - 2011-07-14 11:53

    Just what one would expect from a 'child'!

  • whatno - 2011-07-14 11:55

    I agree with you Moi1980. Where is any regret to the in that "apology" if thats what it shuld be called. Some people are just sturbon,a holigan if you ask me. Where is the positive attitude (towards Media) he is refering to???ANCYL, MORE PROBLEMS EVERYDAY.

  • The Third Wors - 2011-07-14 11:58

    F.U.F.

      Neles - 2011-07-14 17:53

      lol

  • pastorjakes - 2011-07-14 11:58

    Not good enough ! He must say he is sorry

  • CofiDrinka - 2011-07-14 11:59

    Hmmm, the poliotician that was murdered is unfortunately not Flloyed. SH!T.

  • Drucilla Dragonfly - 2011-07-14 12:00

    I just received an email from my colleauge in the States "What the f*ck is happening in your country? Ha ha" Yet again, we are the laughing stock of the rest of the world! Ai tog.

  • Enigma - 2011-07-14 12:01

    Shouldn't these politicians be fined or be given some sort of punishment for using such language!

  • Lionel - 2011-07-14 12:03

    Just get Ma Winnie to wash the naughty boy's mouth out with soap.

      allie - 2011-07-14 12:19

      I am back to calling them what i used to call them.

      Greegs - 2011-07-14 12:28

      Me 2

      ntombentle - 2011-07-14 12:45

      @allie & Greegs who are you going to call them that? Malema?, Tsheps16V, or black people as whole? just wondering.......

      RGL - 2011-07-14 13:48

      @ntombentle. Anyone who the shoe fits.

  • Azizi - 2011-07-14 12:04

    Yes F-F-F-Floyd that was why you were chased by the CYL. The only unfortunate thing about this is that you never learn.

  • Gordon - 2011-07-14 12:04

    Is the ANCYL above every one, they can do as they please and they never have to appoligise nor is any action taken against them???? He should have been fired. CADRES just looking afer one and other GOD HELP SA.

  • Greegs - 2011-07-14 12:05

    Imagine if it was a white person swearing at a black person? All hell would break loose....

      MM - 2011-07-14 12:22

      do you honestly think white people dont swear at black people? anyways lets not stoop to these levels of debating.

      daaivark - 2011-07-14 13:20

      Well said, MM.

      Tony - 2011-07-15 23:50

      @MM: Off course some white people swear at black people. That’s utterly irrelevant. The point is that a white public figure who swears at a black person will inevitably face severe consequences, including being labelled a racist and probably losing his job. What has happened to Shivambu? The fact that his black skin gives him immunity from any form of censure is a reflection of how racist our society still is. By turning a blind eye to such dual standards you’re acting as an apologist for racism.

  • GT - 2011-07-14 12:08

    "disgustedly" asked? this oke is disgusting. Is the talent pool in the ANCYL so lacking that they need this tool to be their mouthpiece? You could get me competence and skill out of a Std 5 debating club. Horrendous.

      Neles - 2011-07-14 17:57

      lol - check your post first

  • general20 - 2011-07-14 12:09

    As much as i understand the frustration that Cmrd Floyd is going through , i still think that as leaders of the youth we should lead by example ,we should behave in a manner that would bring confidenece into the organisation , as a leader you should be prepared of such situations Crmd, dont succumb to any preasures that media might impose upon you.You are man enough by apologising combrade.

  • kingkong - 2011-07-14 12:09

    sue the bustard for the humiliation he caused you but thats were the politics in this counry is going and to think one of these day he will be in parliament if his hero become president. the odesity of these drive through politicians they will never be be respected by educated masses of this country as long as they keep them dumb they will rule please lord help us

  • Julie - 2011-07-14 12:09

    Shameful

  • JohannV - 2011-07-14 12:11

    Like !^%@^#%%^%$ Winnie swore at the cops who pulled her over. None of these ^@%!*& involved with the &^@%^% ANC know the meaning of an apology and think it's their right to abuse people and swear at them. So I say &^%!$#%! them all - they're a bunch of no-good *&^%@&^$^%$!!!! Ah, I feel so much better now...

  • whatno - 2011-07-14 12:11

    Such things ie: disrespect is because they know there's never any consequences. Its more like being Notorius is the name of the game.

  • Steviewunduh - 2011-07-14 12:11

    Can't even buy you a place in a woodwork class!

  • ReaderNews24 - 2011-07-14 12:13

    Shame!!! Poor Dommisse, why don't you put the whole conversation on the website, not just the second part!! I have never and will never support the ANCYL and think they are morons, however there is more than meets the eye(ear) here. He obviously put the phone down on you because he didn't want to speak to you, surely as a journalist you are more than educated enough to realize that if someone puts the phone down on you they don't want to speak to you??? Or maybe not! However you call him again... Dumb ASS... seriously journalists in this country are bigger morons than the ANC, ANCYL and all other political parties in this country combined, and bet I'm not going to be seeing this posted on the time, cause most of you are one sided!!

  • Pickle - 2011-07-14 12:13

    Who wants Floyds cellphone number? R100 per digit *Evil grin*

  • FRpower - 2011-07-14 12:14

    @ Mad man all you are is a keyboard ninja you troll.Your just a lonely little wanker.

  • kwill - 2011-07-14 12:14

    Doesn't anybody from ANCYL apologise when they are clearely in the wrong

  • daaivark - 2011-07-14 12:16

    This is nowhere near an apology. It is an attempt at justification, very very thinly disguised. What is wrong with admitting fault when you are so blatantly wrong. Didn't you learn basic manners when you were a baby? Shame on you and your leadership for not forcing you to make your apology more worthwhile. As it stands here, it isnt' worth sh*t.

  • PieterWolf - 2011-07-14 12:19

    Even if he do apologise he is still a TURD

  • Colby - 2011-07-14 12:20

    "engage in disgustingly provocative methods and means of engagement" !!!!! Is this not a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black? (Not racist, but a well-known and ages old epithet, so don't anyone start playing the colour game) How can you have an organisation that is blatantly and rudely provocative accusing the media in such a manner. Have the courtesy to apologise and accept the humility demanded of the position of supposedly representing the people as opposed to thinking you are invulnerable and superior. Oh, sorry, I suppose we'll blame the past.

      Neles - 2011-07-14 18:03

      my kitchen appliances are for the most part stainless steel

  • Janine - 2011-07-14 12:21

    Of course he won't do it again - until the next time!

  • Dan - 2011-07-14 12:24

    Just have to wonder until what age are you still regarded as a "youth league"? Goodness, Malema and some of his idiotic little friends surely cannot be regarded as "youth". Clearly memebrship of the ANC Youth League has something to do with level of education (lack thereof), IQ and maturity. The little bandits should grow up.

  • Papsak - 2011-07-14 12:24

    hic!hic!hic...ja...hic!hic!ja...hic! Give this man some water, jeyes fluid, jik and handy handy to wash his mouth

      mamakalami - 2011-07-14 15:26

      Papsak - he must be so used to the taste now. He should learn a new skill instead like 'keep his mouth shut' - he's never done that before. He can't even spell.

  • Ann - 2011-07-14 12:26

    That's no excuse - you and your Youth League cronies think you are all above the law and that different rules apply to you. We'll see how long it will take to break your promise.

      Sean - 2011-07-15 15:19

      they aint above MY law!!!!

  • Toni - 2011-07-14 12:27

    One thing that still lacks in our political leaders is humility. They get elected by the people; yet they tell the very same people to f*@k off. Intelligence and humility go hand in hand. You can therefore make your final assumption.

  • Louw - 2011-07-14 12:30

    Let's give credit where it is due - Louw's grammar and spelling may be up the creek, but he sure knows how to throw an insult! ROTFLMAO!!!! I think Floyd's a chop, and I think Juliarse is a chop. In fact, I think the ANCYL are a bunch of plonkers (generally speaking). That said, as much as I don't agree with his approach, I agree with Louw in that this journo should harden the F up and stop seeking attention by supplying what was a private conversation into the public domain. This has completely blown out of proportion! That said, it should be noted that there is a significant difference between a bloke telling another bloke to go forth and multiply (like our Prez), and the real story here which is where Juliarse's money comes from. So far Domisse has fallen for the trap hook, line, sinker and rod! If you want to bury a news story about your boss's income, just offend a journalist and let his attention seeking ego divert attention to a storm in a teacup. Well done Floyd - so far you go 1-0 up on the holier than thou press.

  • caleb69 - 2011-07-14 12:31

    I wont swear.....until next time...boo hoo, must be apartheids fault

  • Louw - 2011-07-14 12:33

    best comments i have read.... is the a transcript of this conversation between JD and Floyd or are we ready to conclude that indeed Floyd said those things on the basis of previous complaints knowing also the fabrication of the jurnos in most countries! if JD is serious let him take the matter to court and the records will be made public before he puts this to the public without proper back up already sanef wants to toyi toyi over this and yet we not sure if the is foundation! I noted with dismay how some of you are quick to insult one another if a different oppinion is raised that is simmilar to the nature of the allegation levelled against Mr Floyd ( if indeed his guilty) that he sweared when he could not respond to the questions of the esteemed gentlemen of the press Moses so come come on jaques off to spent a r100000 at waterfront..why..i can afford it please phone...or are u scared to get klapped u bully racist..u can lay charge against me i will pay admission of guilt R100 priceless!!!

      Airborne68 - 2011-07-14 13:38

      You are rambling. Check this out: http://www.news24.com/Galleries/Video/Videos/South%20Africa/ANCYL%20spokesperson%20swears%20at%20journalist/7f150e4a62804ec69834163bf93dc5f1/ANCYLs-Floyd-swears-at-journalist

  • Louw - 2011-07-14 12:34

    I'd also like to hear the entire conversation. If Floyd was being harrassed by some attention seeking journo then I don't blame him for telling the guy to get gimped. I would have as well. It was a private conversation. What is quite clear to me is that the leader of the ANCYL is earning a salary from the ANC and he also has private income. Whether the source of that is honest or not is not for comment by the ANCYL as it is private income. I would be willing to put my .... on the block that Malema is up to his eyeballs in dodgy dealings. That is a seperate matter and has nothing to do with Floyd. Let's hear the rest of the conversation that Domisse has elected not to provide to us. Perhaps that would expose him to be baiting Floyd? As for Wiese, anyone flying with four million bucks in a briefcase has to be up to no good, and boy oh boy, I do give a flying #$%^ cause crime is crime, and that is tax money that should be spent on the poor that he is probably avoiding paying. That means you and I have to pay more! Just because someone is a public official does not mean that their crime is any more serious. Fraud is fraud

  • Louw - 2011-07-14 12:37

    Its also more and more obvious the press and journo's cherry pick parts of speeches, conversations and documents to shed a negative connotation on most ANC publications and deliveries. - In some cases its merely a case of inexperience and fundamentally poor skills on the journo's behalf, in others it seem intentional

      Tolerant - 2011-07-14 14:43

      Maybe a spokesperson should not swear at anyone, he has done this before via SMS to a woman. Floyd has poor communicating skills.

      Neles - 2011-07-14 18:10

      I agree with Tolerant but I doubt the journo has any more skill at investigative reporting than the spokesman has at dealing with the press. Seems like the journo's looking for more than 15 minutes of fame with this extended yawn-fest around the swearing incident.

  • Alexi - 2011-07-14 12:40

    so what is bein said by anc to reporters is an example of the new south africa ...... like ancyl i will follow my opinion on them ..... F#$%^ $%3 ANCYL AND ##$%%^# ##%#%#%# JULIUS MALEMA !!

  • londonishome - 2011-07-14 12:48

    Mad Man I take it you are a poor guy who wants everything handed to you because you are to usless to get off you lazy ass and work!!! Everything I have a work for and all paid for, and I will not let no one, not even the SO call ANCYL take it away from me, mate!!!

  • Marcl01 - 2011-07-14 12:51

    Floyd Shivambu, the 2nd dumbest person in SA hahahahaha, how can these idiots be politicians?? He can’t even string a sentence together. Monkey's are trying to run the zoo.

  • chi chi - 2011-07-14 12:58

    what do u expect when u put people with inexperience in politics, they talk without thinking