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Top ANCYL official apologises

2012-03-11 07:33

Johannesburg - ANC Youth League secretary general Sindiso Magaqa apologised to Public Enterprise Minister Malusi Gigaba on Saturday. "I... would like to apologise to Minister Malusi Gigaba unreservedly and unconditionally," Magaqa said in a statement.

This was part of the sanction meted out by the ANC national disciplinary committee.

If Magaqa had not apologised he would have been suspended from the ANC for three years.

However, the sanction would have been implemented if he were found guilty of misconduct within that time. The sanction would have also applied to his membership of the ANCYL.

Magaqa was given 15 days to make a public apology to Gigaba. Failure to comply would have meant his sanction would not have been suspended.

He was found guilty of prejudicing the integrity of the organisation and creating divisions by making derogatory remarks about ANC national executive committee member Gigaba.

Magaqa accused Gigaba of "pleasing imperialists" when he said the nationalisation debate was hurting foreign investment in South African.

He was charged together with ANCYL president Julius Malema and spokesperson Floyd Shivambu. Malema was expelled from the ANC and Shivambu was suspended for three years. They were also given 14 days to appeal the sanctions.

This means Magaqa does not need to appeal the NDC's decision. He had 14 days to appeal from February 29.

Comments
  • Larry - 2012-03-11 07:41

    How much sincerity was involved in a forced apology, when the alternative was a ban from the gravy train?

      Luzuko Tosh Plaatjie - 2012-03-11 08:16

      Wise move although clearly he was forced too, now he can support his family, he still keeps his salary

      martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-03-11 08:19

      Agreed Larry, and @ Leonard, perhaps it's time to limit the youth league to the actula youth, ie those younger than 25!

  • Kolobe - 2012-03-11 07:44

    but Gigaba is "pleasing imperialists"

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-11 08:08

      @kolobe - well spoken. just like a good follower. Can you also say 'baaaaa baaaaa...'? Please explain yourself, what proof or information do you have to confirm such a statement from your 'Chief and general of the highest economic freedom looter and fighter'? Proove to me you are making a statement because of your own deductions, or, just confirm that you are a sheep in the shadow of that idiot, juju? i wait with bated breath

      Piet - 2012-03-11 08:18

      do you know what the word means? The anc leadership is a great example of imperialism.

      Chad - 2012-03-11 08:23

      Who and what are imperialists?

      Gerald - 2012-03-11 09:21

      @barabus2012, I don't think kolobe can answer u since all he can say is what he said and he is still trying to learn to say 'baaa baaa'...what is it abt you people that u must beliitle and insult those with a different opinion to u, do u not have enough argumentative power to state your points concisely and respectfully...maybe u will convert the man, how do u believe you r better than this man, what makes you think so...you see (or not), I agree to that we are appeasing the western community, but I don't think that is wrong, it is a practical reality that we live in a global village, we are interconnected, so it follows that we must all appease each other for commerce to continue. ANCYL want what is not attainable, that which will lead to the downfall of us all, nationalise mines (as "fair" as that may sound) will lead to devistement from RSA and sanctions, together with gov mismanagement and corruption we will get so poor and starve we will end up exchanging our minerals for bread...it will be a loaf of bread for a gold bullion re oil for food in irag before Bush dealt them a death blow. Life isn't fair, it never has been nor will we ever create a utopian society...what we need to teach our kids, both black and white, is to survive and strive against the odds, to try leave the world just a slight better than they found it. That to me is the greatest freedom ever, to be master of your own destiny, to influence and deliberately effect your own outcome.

  • Burtfred - 2012-03-11 07:45

    Too little too late. A forced apology is no apology at all.

      Sharon - 2012-03-11 07:50

      I fully agree - I taught my son that "sorry" is the most useless word in any language. By the time it is necessary to say it, the damage is already done. In any case, apologising because you are told to do so is worthless, because it is not meant at all!

      Vegi - 2012-03-11 08:09

      Sharon, an apology has averted so many wars and saved so many lives in the history of the world. Change what you said to your son and tell him the importance of an apology and that "sorry" is a life saving word.

      Donny Doncaster - 2012-03-11 08:18

      Have to agree with Vegi.. But an apology shouldn't be forced.

      martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-03-11 08:21

      @ Burtfred, the ANCYL "leaders" subsribe to the old adage that it's easier to ask for an apology that to ask for permission.

      Wendy - 2012-03-11 09:34

      Apologies are a good thing, if meant, if you change the situation you caused to have to had said sorry. But for someone to say sorry so that he doesn't lose his privileges is a totally different story.

      Anthony - 2012-03-11 10:51

      what rubbish @ vegi----what a pity that hitler killed himself --it would have been so much better if he lived --he could then say 'sorry' to the six million jews that he killed and we could all move on -- perhaps Thabo and Manto should say sorry that they both thought that AIDS did not exist and beetroot was the answer --this will make it all better for the one million south africans that died of aids do u really have a freeking brain in your head? if I have insulted your inteligence --im 'sorry'

      Anthony - 2012-03-11 11:26

      vegi---would u please list all the wars that have been averted in the history of the world [as you claim] by issuing an apology-'saying sorry' please please --im waiting

  • Sam - 2012-03-11 07:53

    now you feel the heavy footsteps of the anc, you have realised the anc isnt a mickey mice party, uzoqonda or take your bags and live

      Piet - 2012-03-11 08:18

      whahahahaha.......

  • anna.brits - 2012-03-11 07:56

    At least one showed respect for the punishment. Good for him. Whether is was to stay on the gravy train, being forced or whether the dead is actually worthless, he did the right thing. He showed the elders respect.

      martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-03-11 08:22

      Showing respect would mean not disrespecting his elders in the first place!

  • Comrade - 2012-03-11 07:58

    NO .... YOU CANT HAVE A TENDER!!

  • Dennis - 2012-03-11 08:09

    What a joke the anc has become !! PATHETIC

  • Vegi - 2012-03-11 08:11

    This apology is a good tactical move.

      Sharon - 2012-03-11 08:18

      Unfortunately that's all it is, and if I was Malusi Gigaba, I'd tell him to stick his apology where the sun doesn't shine.

      Piet - 2012-03-11 08:20

      you okes are beyond stupid, the Anc leadership is a imperialistic force that has set it sites on plundering this country....

  • Piet - 2012-03-11 08:17

    Wow, i cant believe! One apology and all is fine again....

  • tami.haefele - 2012-03-11 08:21

    HAHA

  • Morne - 2012-03-11 08:25

    The ANCYL is screwed up!

      Penny - 2012-03-11 08:43

      The understatement of the century

  • Melanie Purge - 2012-03-11 08:30

    a week of apologies in south africa. I also apologise to my pussycat-fionah for locking her in the garage.

  • alan.erwin1 - 2012-03-11 08:43

    @Vegi - I am an international terrorist and killed 2000 people so far this year for what I believe in. So they don’t come looking for me for my crimes I say this SORRY – there you go all forgiven.

      Anthony - 2012-03-11 11:00

      you will see that we both wasted our time replying to vegi ---why we would do this i dont know --he is a cretin retard and should go back to checkers as the packer if they will have him back

  • Ian - 2012-03-11 08:44

    ugh, you ancyl love to insult people, then you apologise then you do it again, stay off the dop then maybe you wont open your dronkgat fat trap so much, i did say maybe, no scratch that you are too uneducated to think before you speak, hope Gigaba sues your asses off

  • alan.erwin1 - 2012-03-11 08:50

    @ Chad - ?Who and what are imperialists? Ask uncle Bob he will explain it all to you, although he enjoys what they left him he still complains.

  • gunofmine - 2012-03-11 08:53

    this is all too confusing, i initially thought the ANCYL's plan was the ANC's strategic plan- let them introduce the topics (expropriation, minerals- the economic struggle), hear what the people think about it, then amend the constitution and implement- but after seeing these punishments, apologies i don't know what to think anymore!

      Gerald - 2012-03-11 09:30

      i don't think the ANC ever wanted a pro communist state like that, it wouldn't turn a profit...they need those dollars, pounds and euros. How many elites has the ANC created...wealth even uncomprehensible to their core demographic. Nationalisation and land grab will be them shooting themselves in the foot

  • Vegi - 2012-03-11 09:13

    Piet Skiet The ANC has no intention to plunder this country and has also not plundered this country. The proof of what I am saying can be seen all around us. Ever since the ANC took over: It steered the country from bankruptcy to a point where is is able to preside over a one trillion budget It has drastically reduced the public debt created by the previous regime The entire country has been electrified Piped water has been delivered to almost all localities Numerous schools have been built Numerous hospitals have been built Hundreds of clinics have been built Thousands of students have been sent to foreign countries to train as doctors when local capacity has been found wanting Massive infrastructure programmes like stadiums, dams (e.g. Katse Dam in Lesotho, Tyingwayo dam and the proposed Mzimvubu dam), rail networks (e.g. gautrain) have been undertaken Eskom, DRC government and other international investors are currently considering building the giant Inga Dam in the DRC which will nearly extinguish Africa's electricity shortage with its massive capacity of 59 000 megawatts Social wellfare support is available to the entire population (in fact more than 80 billion rands is spent supporting the poor every year) Thousands of houses have been built for the poor etc etc etc Anyone who is plundering does not spend so much money on public projects. Your allegations are nothing but pure propaganda.

      martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-03-11 09:20

      The multi billion arms deal - Plundered, The SABC - Plundered, Eskom - Plundered, Virtually every municipality - plundered, SAA - Plundered, Virtually every government tender - Plundered. State hospitals - underfunded (plundered) would you like to disprove this "propaganda"?

      martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-03-11 09:31

      And I refer you to this report from the Sunday Times this very morning, but then I guess this is also propaganda : http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Report-fingers-Motlanthes-partner-20120310

      Wendy - 2012-03-11 09:41

      Right and the houses they have given the tenders to they mates to build are falling apart, the hospitals have no facilities, because there is no money, it has been stolen. The rates department is in more than a mess. The home affairs department is in more than a mess. Hundreds of people live in shanty towns, with no control, no structure, no electricity, no water. Millions are out of work. The ANC, which has been proved over and over again, has stolen millions. And you believe this country has not been plundered .. You have no idea what you are talking about.

      Vegi - 2012-03-11 10:02

      FerretGee Is this Gugu even a member? So to you the ANC is responsible for the private dealings of every black person or of every ANC member? If Gugu negotiated a bribe then she negotiated a bribe. Is there even an allegation that the ANC was involved in discussing the bribe? Don't be ridiculous.

      Vegi - 2012-03-11 10:07

      FerretGee How was the ANC involved in the arms deal. Don't lie. Speak the truth. It is Zuma who was caught with his fingers deep inside the arms deal purse (allegedly of course since he has not been convicted yet). How do you connect the ANC to Zuma's unlawful activities? Do you even know what the ANC is?

      Robsschele - 2012-03-11 10:08

      We started to built the Lesotho Highlands project in 1991, well before the ANC came into power. The original planning started in the fifties allready. So please don't claim for something that you had no part in. Our rivers are a mess, raw sewerage is running into it and the ANC is doing nothing about it. The Limpopo province is bankrupt. The existing railway system was demolished. The only new rail system was Gautrain and that was mostly done for the soccer worldcup. I read every other day that Gautrain is not running because of cable theft. Everything you are claiming come out of an election speech. It sounds more like promises than actual achiefments. Numerous schools but pupils complain they can't learn in classes which are overcrowded. Numerous hospitals but babies are dying and there is no money to upgrade existing hospitals. Thousands of the houses which were built by the friends of the government are collapsing because of the poor quality of workmanship. Million were stolen through these so-called tenders by family members of government officials. Etc etc etc Your claims are nothing but pure propaganda.

      Anthony - 2012-03-11 11:09

      isnt is so satisfying to see that vegi makes a long post about the anc and how wonderful they are-- and in 2 minuites 6 people shoot his raving down using facts ----lol lol it must be tough beind stupid and uninformed --so sad perhaps he dosent live in sa

      martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-03-11 11:32

      Vegi - Let me spell it out to you: Jacob Zuma is head of the country (presently) and the ANC, he was a member of the ANC when the arms deal was in progress and his fingers were in the pie, (his non-conviction has merely been delayed through stalling in the courts rather than him being proven innocent). The arms deal was to benefit a number of members of the ANC. As for Gugu, she is Motlanthes's partner, he is a member of the ANC, the bribe here was allegedly asked for, to secure government (ANC) intervention and assistance. Do you really beleive Gugu is NOT and ANC member or trying to use the party for her own ends? I think not and I hardly think that the Deputy Presidents partner is a card carrying member of any other party. Take your blinkres off and look at reality and tell me why virtually every government department (apart from SARS) is failing in it's duty to perform for the citizens of this country.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-11 12:16

      The whole country has been electrocuted more likely.

      Piet - 2012-03-11 12:53

      you stepped into this one.....the Anc leaders are imperials!

      alansmartSnr - 2012-03-11 20:14

      Please guys and ladies, Dont be so hard on Vegi. We all know that he is sub I.Q. and shame, the poor guy is almost brain dead, from there the name "vegi". We should all show more empathy for a half brain dead idiot who is more vegetable than human.. and suffers from delusions of grandeur. I feel sorry for someone who is not only so retarded but has the stupidity to make it public. Shame, give the poor idiot some space. Never knew that they had 'puters in institutions for retarded inmates but then "Si non cofectus, non reficiat".

  • Wendy - 2012-03-11 09:30

    Oh right, so all we do is say sorry, to keep on the gravy train, how very convenient.

  • MduXman - 2012-03-11 10:07

    he might as well could have stood up and said "am sorry to Gigaba" LOL just a one liner apology, this dude is the man.

  • Siphiwo - 2012-03-11 10:11

    Comrade Magaqa, what you did, clearly shows, maturity and comittment to discharges of the NDC of the ANC. Sikushayela izindla okwenzile. We will therefore, stop to speculate any further. Uyindoda, emadodeni. It takes a man to do what you did. Now, we say, Aluta continua.

  • Yolenda - 2012-03-11 10:25

    a very good and wise move cde Magaqa.

  • Nigel - 2012-03-11 10:43

    now shut up & behave

  • Michelle Kirsten - 2012-03-11 11:12

    Ooh so that's what is needed. Well in that case, I apologise for apartheid, unreservedly and unconditionally. It was a naughty thing for my ancestors to vote for the NP. Sorry. Cool, now we can move on.

      martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-03-11 11:36

      No no nooooo Michelle... that was "400 years of oppression" that's different that can't be washed away with one apology, we must continue to apologise for another 400 years and even then, it wont be enough... (Irony huh... gotta love it)

      Mtshezi Yonk'insipho Iyawasha Mkhize - 2012-03-11 11:51

      U can never apologize for apartheid and all will be well tht's a little dumb!!!

  • Kgosi King Meruti - 2012-03-11 11:35

    Good thinking Bob..!

  • Mtshezi Yonk'insipho Iyawasha Mkhize - 2012-03-11 11:57

    Oh well he apologized, Unlike white Folks who have never for once apologized for all the theft and unfairness during Apartheid!!! But somehow still ridiculously remain hopeful tht they'll run this country.... Think again Suckers!!!!

      Anthony - 2012-03-11 12:20

      but your brothers are running the country now, mkhize--- and arnt they doing a wonderful job==it must be hard to watch your brothers steal, lie and corrupt the country --I feel sorry for you, to think that every day your brothers are found out to be corrupt today its your sister gugu turn -who will be tomorrow anyway you voted for them so enjoy

      samantha.lister.09 - 2012-03-11 17:59

      "Unlike white Folks who have never for once apologized for all the theft and unfairness during Apartheid" - really?! All we frikkin' do is apologise! And we're apologising for it more and more everyday. I was 2 years old when Mandela came into power, but my generation has to apologise more than anyone! So don't give us that absolute bull.

      Michelle Kirsten - 2012-03-15 00:13

      My apology came before this comment. On one side you say at least he apologised, on other side you deny my apology and tell me I can't apologise. We suckers do not have to think again... Usually the first time we think our brain is already working.

  • Jacqui - 2012-03-11 12:12

    I am pleased that they are still young. There is hope that brain cells may still evolve.

      Piet - 2012-03-11 12:55

      evolution only favours the fittest and strongest. I do not see any strong and fit brain cells...

  • Jason Sanvura - 2012-03-11 14:49

    why so much hatred on this platform can u guys grow up for a second weither white or black it doesn't count.

  • Siyambuka Archibald Sikrweqe - 2012-03-11 15:00

    He should have done this last year.

  • Obakeng Molobi - 2012-03-12 07:41

    Eish! I think the beloved ANC must take a break from politics; for a year or so, to sort itself out...they'll come back when they are ready. In the meantime we'll remain 'single' as a country. Ha ha ha. Happy Monday everyone.

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