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Violent protest was uncalled for - ANC

2011-09-06 07:24

Johannesburg - A violent protest outside the ANC's Luthuli House headquarters in Johannesburg last week was uncalled for, the ruling party's national working committee said on Monday.

At its regular meeting on organisational issues, it concluded that the protest was "calculated" to undermine the ANC's internal organisational processes to uphold disciplined conduct of its members, secretary general Gwede Mantashe said.

"The meeting agreed that the protest was used for ill-disciplined purposes and it flies against good and reputable conduct inside the organisation," he said.

Rioters thronged Johannesburg's city centre last Tuesday, ahead of the appearance of ANC Youth League president Julius Malema and five members of his executive before the ANC's disciplinary committee.

Violence

The youths hurled broken bricks at police and journalists, burned a T-shirt bearing a picture of President Jacob Zuma, who is also president of the ANC, and burned an ANC flag.

Rubber bullets and teargas were fired several times during the day at Malema supporters, who broke off pieces of concrete barriers, cut through yellow tape used to close off streets and set dustbins alight.

Shops closed their doors after rioters banged on windows and threw pieces of glass at them. Several banks in the city closed early.

Windows of some buildings in the area were smashed by stone-throwers.

The NWC condemned the protest and its organisers for "exposing the organisation negatively".

"The meeting concluded that such behaviour should not be tolerated in the organisation and should be condemned unconditionally," said Mantashe.

The NWC also condemned the burning of the image of Zuma and of the ANC's flag.

"This was viewed as totally un-ANC and a breach of everything that the ANC stands for," said Mantashe.

"The NWC further called for action to be taken against those who are implicated in acts of violence and criminality," he said.

Incitement

Earlier on Monday, the DA said it had laid a charge of incitement to violence against Limpopo ANC Youth League secretary Jacob Lebogo, who had been identified as an alleged ring-leader of the protest.

"Damage to public property is estimated to run in the millions and the devastating knock the economy of the CBD took due to the disruption of business cannot be left unchallenged," said DA Gauteng spokesperson John Moodey.

Malema and ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu have been brought before the ANC's disciplinary committee for comments about Botswana.

Malema recently said the ANCYL would send a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties and help bring about regime change, as it believed the government there was "in full co-operation with imperialists" and was undermining the "African agenda".

ANCYL deputy president Ronald Lamola, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, his deputy Kenetswe Mosenogi, and treasurer general Pule Mabe also face disciplinary hearings.

They have been charged with deliberately disrupting meetings and interfering with the orderly functioning of the organisation, and prejudicing the integrity or repute of ANC, its personnel or its operational capacity.

Comments
  • gekko - 2011-09-06 07:29

    THUGS!

      Schalk - 2011-09-06 08:02

      Thugs as well as idiots... * We break down the JHB CBD and chase away investors in a call to nationalize something that contributes 8% directly to GDP (mines), thinking that this 8% will give 30 million people "economic freedom". * We polarize society, help move a minority group to level 6 on genocidewatch.org and threaten food security in our call to expropriate something that only contributes 9% to GDP in experienced and competent hands (farms). Meanwhile our brothers who have been given productive land have turned it to waste and many have sold it back to the previous owners. * We despise whites because they got rich from owning ill-gotten land and mines. Yet, less than 1% of whites own any of these assets and the remaining 99%, by some imperialist magic, still manages to earn 8 times more than us. We don't want to learn this imperialist magic though. We just want... * We keep on struggling, putting liberation before education, and cannot understand why we are not getting jobs. Our liberation party has produced an educational system where only 1 in 29 of us emerge on the other side as functionally literate. Eish... * We still want compensation for apartheid even though each white person continuously supports 5 of us through social grants, RDP housing, free services and the soon to be NHI. We think that whites still benefit from apartheid, yet they are so neglected by government that they see an estimated 6 cents in value for every 1 Rand of tax they pay

      willieman - 2011-09-06 08:08

      "africn agenda" malema can't even understand the ancyl constitution yet he talks about complex issues in the league of dictators AU @gekko this are not thugs,this are dictators in training

      unrealchris - 2011-09-06 08:35

      thanks Schalk!

      York Hunt - 2011-09-06 08:40

      @Schalk. Please keep that sentiment coming!

      Parko - 2011-09-06 08:55

      I say disband the ANC's "Young Retard League"

      Sharkie - 2011-09-06 12:56

      Schalk - hell for that you get a Johnnie never mind a Bells

  • 1gascan - 2011-09-06 07:32

    So then, the solution is simple... hold the ring-leaders accountable! If the thuggery occurs under the name of the ANCYL, hold the leaders accountable. Charge them personally for the damage. Lastly, look at passing the DA-proposed bill that holds unions/organisations accountable/liable for damages incurred by protests/gatherings/marches.

      Jacques Jones - 2011-09-06 07:42

      agree 100%

      happycamper - 2011-09-06 08:01

      I also agree. I was appalled when I heard the ANC did not associate themselves to the ANCYL actions.

      Mike - 2011-09-06 08:32

      Indeed! Why must the tax payer always be be expected to pay? The tax payer is not a cash cow.

  • william.botha - 2011-09-06 07:34

    The ANCYL is uncalled for.

      Hetrohero - 2011-09-06 07:39

      Yes nobody really likes ANYL.

  • Hetrohero - 2011-09-06 07:35

    What is the "African agenda"?

      tonno - 2011-09-06 07:42

      To rape and pillage. Every man for himself.

      happycamper - 2011-09-06 08:03

      it's to remove the white man from africa

      Hetrohero - 2011-09-06 08:06

      I think aids has another agenda ...

      Meanleader - 2011-09-06 08:06

      It is the total plunder of all assets owned by whites and total lawlessness !!!

      Face - 2011-09-06 08:21

      Eat, sleep, s@x and eat

      d2eguy - 2011-09-06 08:54

      lie , steal , rape and if you cant steal or rape it , destroy it .

  • Felix - 2011-09-06 07:39

    I thought Lebogo called for it... haha

  • Mystre - 2011-09-06 07:39

    The bussing of supporters was more likely Malema's idea to get himself some attention and to have a scape goat incase things got heated up. Well done Malema on slipping away once again

      MSGRule - 2011-09-06 08:01

      It was a pure show of his "power" by lettign them behave like barbarians the whole day and then comign out at 4pm and making them quiet with a few words. to show the anc he is mighty and they must fear him

  • Crime Buster - 2011-09-06 07:42

    Listen to this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17m8OnHC7dQ

      MSGRule - 2011-09-06 08:02

      That is a very different look at matters.

      amabok - 2011-09-06 08:36

      the man's has got a point.

      Logs01 - 2011-09-06 08:44

      So True!! Thank's for the link.

      JMsays - 2011-09-06 10:16

      That link is getting really old now, give us something new next time, ok?

  • ShakaN - 2011-09-06 07:44

    The ANCYL learnt from their elders and now the wheel is turning and the rest of us you know who must sit in the middle of the power struggle and suck on it..oh and i forgot pay for it aswell.

  • Mystre - 2011-09-06 07:45

    Issue with this Malema business. He gets away with anything because if he doesn't, the throws a fat tantrum, and then a riot happens. So Zuma has 2 options, enter South Africa into Civil War and eradicate Malema and everyone like him. Or wait a few years until Malema is president and then South Africa will become another Warsaw Ghetto

      Hetrohero - 2011-09-06 07:52

      Yes but lets look at all those farmers doing NOTHING. Maybe they need to throw a little tantrum if they can get off their butts.

      Mystre - 2011-09-06 07:55

      Malema will just shout "Its racist if whites do it" and cause another riot. These people don't have brains. They're just sheep, and no matter how stupid Malema makes himself out to be (Unless this whole charade is just a complete mass of luck) he's one intelligent Shepherd slowly taking over this country

      MSGRule - 2011-09-06 08:04

      @Mystre - he is avery clever sheppard leading the lambs to slaughter.

      happycamper - 2011-09-06 08:05

      if the farmers get out of their houses, its racist action. (and when they return everything is stolen)

      Hetrohero - 2011-09-06 08:08

      Yes until his sheep starts crapping all over him.

  • OldSA - 2011-09-06 07:48

    How can this behaviuor be against that what the ANC stands for as this is the exact behaviour they propogated for the last 20 years to get their way.

  • Johnny - 2011-09-06 07:50

    "calculated" you think!!! so what is the african agenda??????

  • ian b - 2011-09-06 07:50

    Calculated deflection if Malema interests. Come on media dig deeper. Follow the money.Follow and expose the corruption of interested parties. What is Foul mouth Floyd's share of the looting. Who paid for the buses. Put the names in the public domain. Interview Fairy god mother Sisulu for her opinions. In every interview with any ANC political appointee ask them about the ANCYL business and corrupt partners.

      Hetrohero - 2011-09-06 07:56

      Yeah with ANYL its not a good idea to have too many partners.

  • Robbie - 2011-09-06 07:53

    SAPS Stop using rubber rounds and start using R1 rounds.This will stop these animals from protesting.

      Mystre - 2011-09-06 07:57

      This will probably result in another Soweto Uprising. But i personally like the idea.

      GypseyAnn - 2011-09-06 08:07

      They are not animals - even animals will not lower their standards to behave in such an undignified manner. Calling them animals is an insult to animals.

  • Neil - 2011-09-06 07:53

    I heard on the news that Gwede Mantashe said that Malema is a poison that needs to be eradicated. I wonder how true that is. I must say that I agree fully.

      Hetrohero - 2011-09-06 08:10

      Well ... glad you agree.

      Ingie - 2011-09-06 08:55

      And I heard an African calling into radio 5 this morning saying they should get rid of malema he is not good.

      Neil - 2011-09-06 11:38

      Agree on that as well.

  • Shees - 2011-09-06 07:56

    The individual people who actually damaged property should also be hald accountable. Criminal charges should be brought against them!

  • McDaNife - 2011-09-06 07:57

    Disban the ancyl for good and then look for ways of creating a youth league by a selection process if that is possible. Comments please.

      Comic - 2011-09-06 08:02

      The problem is, useless thugs will still join and you dont know it, same as in the saps.

      Mystre - 2011-09-06 08:06

      IQ test?

      Hetrohero - 2011-09-06 08:11

      Rise of the sapes?

      redfugue - 2011-09-06 08:29

      Undermines democracy. It would likely lead to selecting a ring of thugs that are slightly smarter so as not to get caught! *sigh*

  • GypseyAnn - 2011-09-06 08:04

    Hold them accountable for the damage caused as well as bringing the organisation into disrepute. Charge the ring leaders such as Jacob Lebogo with incitement to violence and disruption of the rights of tax paying citizens of the country.

      Comic - 2011-09-06 08:06

      Once again they will say is was outsiders and not ancyl members. There is always a reason for them.

  • happycamper - 2011-09-06 08:11

    I, from time to time do some work in Botswana and I can honestly say that the people there is most accommodating to white people. It's as if they are focused and ready for accepting an interracial niche - unlike the "african Agenda". Or more specific - I strongly believe that the Zulu, the Xhosa Nigerians and Zimbabweans brings forth the racial conflict in this country. AS a matter of fact - Botswana, Namibia and Madagascar, the other three countries that I have visited are all very little if not any racist.

  • Zenzele - 2011-09-06 08:18

    Expel these thugs from the organisation.

  • Cheekiechops - 2011-09-06 08:21

    There will be bigger riots when Malema is imprisoned for tax evasion

  • amabok - 2011-09-06 08:24

    Burn the ANCYL to the ground. All memebers should be expelled and deported to Zimbabwe.

  • Malcop - 2011-09-06 08:30

    The ANC taught the ANCYL these tricks. How can we forget how Jacob Zuma came to power. How can we forget how he got off his fraud charges. If I was Gwede Mantashe, I would stand on my hands and teach my bum to speak.

  • unrealchris - 2011-09-06 08:34

    "Uncalled for". So the first time that the ANC sees the other side of the stick, they want to start shouting about it! Sorry, but now you can see for a change how the rest of SA feels

  • Malcop - 2011-09-06 08:37

    The whole of Africa is ripe for recolonisation. Libya is just the start of a whole new Western strategy. Sadly these ANC & ancyl idiots cannot see this. Just watch what happens to Africa over the next two decades. Sadly Africans are not able to share wealth and power with each other. This leads to conflict, and gives the Western countries an opportunity to exploit these weaknesses. At the end of the day the majority of ordinary Africans suffer.

  • Ingie - 2011-09-06 08:38

    Looking at the pics would like to know why are those school kids at school they should be punished. When they fail then they cry for more money to study...have no feelings re this. You are who you are and you become who you follow.

      Ingie - 2011-09-06 08:39

      sorry should be not at school

  • Mart - 2011-09-06 08:45

    South Africa's giant, it's 'Goliath' if you will, is quite simply the numbers. Power was purchased by producing voters in their millions, not by force or by intellect or any other way. Now the ruling party do not have a clue how to manage these vast numbers that were bred purely to win the numbers game. Now that the power is in their hands, they find themselves in a catch 22 situation, which because they cannot plan further than now means they have two options, the first being to integrate the whole population into a working system by providing jobs, homes and services. They are quite clearly an epic fail in this endevour, and to quote a colonialist of old, 'Sir, the natives are getting restless....'. The second is to quite drastically reduce the numbers dependant on 'government' and this is where I see us going. What is to follow will not be pretty and has the potential to overshadow any previous civil strife, war and genocide that Africa has ever experienced. Idi Amin, Mugabe etc will be made to look like choir boys. My suggestion to Government is to more stringently control the treatment of AIDS patients as a regrettable means to trimming the numbers down. In my opinion, HIV and AIDS is a predominantly self inflicted affliction....a suicide by sex if you will. Stop treating these 'mutants' and only reserve treatment for those who have contracted this 'blessing' by foul or accidental transmissions.

      Ingie - 2011-09-06 08:58

      And now I can see bad things to come...the whites will be killed and jobs replaced by the blacks..this is how jobs will be created as there is no other way. Look what Mad Bob has done to Zimbabwe killing the farmers and whites and look whats left of a beautiful country...sand and dust

      Cheekiechops - 2011-09-06 09:38

      @ Ingie... bad crystal ball?

  • Adrian - 2011-09-06 08:46

    Ha ha ha. You taught your chidren well. Now when violent protest doesn't suit you , it is uncalled for. He who lives by the sword , shall die by the sword. You shall receive you upcommance.

  • eradingoana - 2011-09-06 08:47

    The thugs were exposing ANC that it has no control of its membership. It is therefore the responsibility of the Ruling Party to prove it can discipline those who believe to be above the Organization. Surely there would be no action unless ANC is dragged to Court on Civil Claims.

  • d2eguy - 2011-09-06 08:51

    this is what the ANC taught the uneducated masses now they want to complain ???? useless retards .

  • allwhitesare - 2011-09-06 09:00

    the only way the anc can convince me to vote for them in the future is if they show Julius Malema the door or else i will reluctantly vote for the da which is the next viable political party.

      GD - 2011-09-06 09:28

      Can we not just vote for a party that is performing well? Yes, i see why people think the DA is a white party, but please go and do your research on Helen Zille - WoW, this lady fought for black rights in this country long before some of us were born. It is not about colour, it is about preserving our beautiful country for all who live in it. I would vote ANC if i thought they had all our interests at heart, they dont, they further only a hanful (who use my hard earned tax money to live in mansions).... PUH! time to stand up as a nation and put colour behind us.

  • Da.Liva.Delvira - 2011-09-06 11:05

    Why does it feel like that most people who comment on News24 are way more intelligent than this country's government??? Hahaha

      kitchenboy3 - 2011-09-06 12:54

      that's not as big a compliment as you may think, but thanks

  • arthur.amgen - 2011-09-06 12:01

    "...protest outside the ANC's Luthuli House headquarters in Johannesburg last week was uncalled for" ..... Violence is never called for. We should protest peacefully like Gandhi did in India. However they are only following in the foot steps of the ANC.

  • ChrisW - 2011-09-06 12:08

    I wonder if Winnie has leapt to Comrade Julius's defence seeing as she was claiming not too long ago to be his coach.

  • John C - 2011-09-06 13:39

    Please protesters, stop undermining the ANC- wait till they call on you to participate in violent protest, ok?

  • letsee - 2011-09-06 14:46

    The ANC is asleep while looking after themselves. They should have known (I did) that Malema was a head-ache but they used him to serve themselves such as getting Zuma in the presidency.

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-09-06 19:03

    Wherever the ANC & ANCYL congregate,the animals show the real colours. Nothing new....Prove me wrong

  • Peter Potgieter - 2011-09-07 10:51

    A- always N- neglecting C- concerns for Y- young L- Learners

  • Pierre Celliers - 2011-09-07 20:12

    OH!! And when is violent protests then "Called For"? Stupid headline for stupid people in a stupid country!!!1

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