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Vote for opposition is 'hell', says Zuma

2011-02-05 16:17

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma has come under fire for saying that people who opt to vote for opposition parties choose what he termed "hell", the SABC reported on Saturday.

Speaking in Zulu, Zuma said if one voted for the ANC, one chose heaven but a vote for the opposition meant hell.

He was addressing people in Mthatha in the Eastern Cape as part of the ANC's registration drive ahead of the 2011 local government elections.

Responding to the statement African Christian Democratic Party president Kenneth Meshoe said Zuma's comments were a disgrace.

Meshoe said no angels would be wearing ANC colours and Zuma's statement was simply blasphemous.

"... I am shocked to hear that the South African president would make such a ludicrous statement. It is not only shocking but it is disappointing to hear the head of state that should be an example of integrity choosing to be the laughing stock of the nation by being deceptive.

"This is nothing but deceptive. Nobody can access heaven because of their membership of a political party. For him to suggest that the angels in heaven are also wearing the colours of the ANC, that is nothing but blasphemy.

"All the Christians in the ANC should write a petition to their president and also ask the president to apologise for such shocking blasphemy... angels are not political beings," he told the broadcaster.

Comments
  • BigMoose - 2011-02-05 16:21

    If the ANC is Zuma's idea of Heaven, then Hell must be a pretty cool place.

      bokfan1 - 2011-02-05 16:59

      It will more than likely be 'hell' for any government official as spending taxpayers money wont be as easy as it is with the anc!

      FatBoySlim - 2011-02-06 09:24

      Well if you believe in benefiting from corruption (which it appears a large majority of South Africans do) then voting for the opposition will be hell

      jmaledi - 2011-02-06 09:56

      The ANC will never reach heaven, their is no place for corruption, murderers, liars, rapists and thieves. Zuma's time will come when he will need to account for all evil he has committed. All ANC corrupt officials will have their time, and so will the thiefs and rapists and they will spend eternity in hell.

      Sedick - 2011-02-06 11:59

      Zuma and integrity in the same sentence .............LOL

      Ldn Saffa - 2011-02-07 01:17

      and soon JZ will be saying "well come to heaven in SA and as you can see I kept my promise so now.... sorry people because now we heaven got a any jobs.... we heaven got any houses... we heaven got electricity..... we heaven got any money....... we heaven got corruption in the ANC... and now we heaven got to go to court... EISH its HEAVEN to be in the ANC

      Chrissie - 2011-02-07 11:29

      Big Moose I think JZ is referring to the heaven where you've got to top yourself to get the "seven virgins"..., or is it 99... I've never been sure... or maybe that's hell. Ughh... what the heck... it's all a crap shoot.

      JuluisMalema - 2011-02-07 11:59

      So then but now infact esspecially because this is South Efrica and the ANC is in charge here. A vote fore the ANC will get you a peri peri chicken and a beer, a house, fridge and a bed. Eish jo na we hooo ha hee but we have one little big problem, the thing you see bona mona wena she is, you put the vote on the paper there and not your name adress and id number, because that is how we do it, so we can not track you down and give you your well desirved reward. So them but no we thank you for the vote for the ANC but you will not get enything you see especially because we do not know exacly who voted for us. Eish i feel sorry for you not getting your peri peri chicken and beer, the house, fridge and bed,it is like the bleck like me mail but is not bleck mail. I am very happy that the ANC has won the errections resoundingly FREE AND FAIR. Mchini-wam Mchini-wam Ha-ulete Mchini-wam Mchini-wam Ha-ulete Mchini-Wam Mchini-wam Ha-ulete Mchini-wam Mchini-wam Ha-ulete

  • Brieuse - 2011-02-05 16:21

    I'm voting for the opposition to try get out of pothole hell.

      Vaal Donkie - 2011-02-05 16:48

      pot-HELL?

  • Marius - 2011-02-05 16:27

    Right a petition? Please go back to school and learn how to write...

      pat - 2011-02-05 17:48

      I think it means they must give their "approval to " a petition.??

  • ProudofPink - 2011-02-05 16:27

    Zooomer is the clown of the ANC circus.

      Vaal Donkie - 2011-02-05 16:48

      THat's why I call him the black Homer Simpson.

      lmduplessis - 2011-02-05 19:04

      You insult Homers intelligence with that remark!

      U1 - 2011-02-07 13:50

      Homer is much more believeable and has brilliant reason compared to that that a hole.

  • YasButIDunno - 2011-02-05 16:40

    I believe that we are in hell watching the ANC apparatchiks pissing our tax money against the wall. A vote for any other party would be the way out of it.

  • Debbie - 2011-02-05 16:50

    JZ got it nearly right - What he meant to say was " a vote for the opposition is a hell of a lot better than one for the ANC" Trouble is, his telepromt failed (cable theft by an ANC voter) so he could not finish reading his sentence. Go JZ - Std 7 next year, and who knows, maybe even MATRIC one day.

      P226 - 2011-02-07 08:41

      Haha, I think he was "misquoted" by the evil-white-liberal-western-pig media.

  • Hungwe - 2011-02-05 16:50

    I'd much rather be in Hell than the ANC's interpretation of Heaven, with Zuma and the likes of Malema the woodwork failure mouthing it off in Heaven, Hell has got to be a neat place.

      lmduplessis - 2011-02-05 19:05

      At least Hell works and is efficient.

  • lldoidge - 2011-02-05 16:51

    If that is hell, geez it's a great place! Viva hell viva!

  • rix.wallace - 2011-02-05 16:52

    religion and politics... birds of a feather...

  • Shisstirrer QBE - 2011-02-05 16:53

    WTF has Zooms been smoking ?

      njglen - 2011-02-05 18:46

      His Condoms! We all know he doesn't use them.

  • Priester - 2011-02-05 16:54

    I voted twice for the ANC......... NO MORE. Our people are still living in shacks, they are still jobless, they are being fu##$d by the government and those who survive are at the mercy of criminals. Vote for whoever you want as long as you don't vote for these criminals. Let us save our country for our children and stop this plundering by the ANC.

      TheNewSA - 2011-02-05 17:28

      Thank you Priester. I hope many like you who have voted previously for the ANC will realise the party has totally changed from what Mandela wanted for this country, which was a better life for ALL. Now all the ANC provides is a better life for themselves.

      Perfume - 2011-02-05 17:33

      Many are beginning to think like you Priester :)

      Reality - 2011-02-05 17:54

      I also voted and in addition have relocated from Gauteng to Western Cape. What a difference!!! I will vote for any party other than the ANC in future. I have paid tax for 42 years and to see it go down the drain like this is hell!! This is the real hell!!! And to the poor, it will only go better with you if you somehow become a cadre, crony etc of the incompetent, corrupt and deceiptful ANC leadership. Things will only approve once all the members of the Robin Island Old Boys Club have passed on. Only then will all the arms deal dirt they hold over each other no longer be relevant.

      Reality - 2011-02-05 17:58

      Approve meant to be improve in my earlier posting!!!

      waynet59 - 2011-02-05 18:07

      Impressed you have seen the folly of the ruling elite.Wish there were more people able to see through the smoke and mirrors of these self enriching "public "servants.

      tobefair2 - 2011-02-05 19:09

      Priester, if only more people could see the light, act responsibly, vote for a responsible and accountable government, like you do, our country can only become a better place!

      richard - 2011-02-06 07:44

      You are right. But what are we going to do to change the illiterate's mind because the ANC needs them, and they are going to keep them poor in order to achieve their ultimate goal. And they are going to keep on using apartheid to achieve that goal. WHY DO THESE PEOPLE NOT SEE THROUGH THEM they are parading in money and corruption and use the 'second grade (whites) as their scapegoat while they rob the country of all it's riches that is left. They do not care and are even giving the country away to chinese investors that will only use it like a prostitute and then throw a few buck and leave.

      Uncle Spud - 2011-02-06 10:20

      It has be said that South Africa and it's people, all of us, need the ability and technical know how of the white folks to make South Africa great. Aparthied was a mistake and will never happen again. Too many mistakes have been made. If you want SA to fall apart and die then vote ANC. Zuma, Malema and the other gangsters will be long gone before you and your children start to die. Well said Priester, buy you a beer and drink it with you anytime my friend.

      LoveJesus - 2011-02-07 08:59

      I nominate Priester for Presedent!

  • Segusio - 2011-02-05 16:54

    If the consequence of voting is the "hell" that pertains in the Western Cape, I say bring it on as soon as possible!

      Allin - 2011-02-05 16:55

      I couldn't put it better myself

      lmduplessis - 2011-02-05 19:06

      It took gallons of virgins blood to get the WC running as it is now XD

  • alfred - 2011-02-05 16:54

    Hey, let Zuma talk. As long as he's talking he's not making babies!

      Perfume - 2011-02-05 17:34

      LMAO!!!!!!

  • terry - 2011-02-05 16:54

    What else do you expect from this uneducated bafoon - there is nothing good to say about the ANC so he resorts to primative hate speech.

  • logical007 - 2011-02-05 16:55

    I'm sure he will come back and say he mas mis-quouted by the media and after a week of trying to get the story straight, no-one will be any the wiser. But I must say if the ANC is Heaven then I would rather be in HELL! Come on HELLen Lets give ANC Hell if thats what they want!

  • mmdmm - 2011-02-05 16:56

    Can't be worse than the hell that the ANC has created.

  • mpanzame - 2011-02-05 17:14

    Yeah - heaven - with the JZ and the ANC,,,, In heaven, I am overcharged for power, and cant do a thing about it. In heaven, I am taxed to hell. In heaven, the crime is violent and unrelenting. In heaven the chief angel Jacob, shags everything that moves. Only his friend angels have harps - made of gold. In heaven, the little angel Julius dances with the devil, but is a real angel. Nah - I reckon I am going to hell.

  • burtfred - 2011-02-05 17:15

    Zooms thinks he can walk on water. He said that the ANC would rule "till the second coming of Christ" He already thinks he is the Messiah and the cabinet are his disciples. If what we have now under the ANC is "Heaven", from now on I'm going to be a very bad boy to ensure that I go to Hell when I die. Unfortunately I will have to put up with all those deceased Communists bringing the tone of the place down.

      allie - 2011-02-05 17:26

      He is not only losing it,i think he never had it.

      richard - 2011-02-06 07:55

      The thing is, that the second coming of the Lord is upon us that is why it is so clear to distinguish between the angels and the demons, well that is the one's that can see, not the one's that are blindfolded by the demons. Open your eyes and see the demons, this is your chance to choose between good and evil. Unfortunately the fight between God and the devil is destined to happen and we will taste destruction before we can REALLY taste the freedom of REAL HEAVEN. Not this so-called self-acclaimed gods on earth. How SWEET the victory for the REAL GOD OF MAN WILL BE.

      Ares - 2011-02-07 09:30

      I don't care if the ANC stays in power until "Jesus comes back", what's more concerning is when they stay behind once Jesus gows back.

  • reg - 2011-02-05 17:18

    what an a@#$hole

  • reg - 2011-02-05 17:20

    All vote for DA and go to Hell en

      K_za - 2011-02-07 11:28

      Excellent :) Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

      MeeMoo - 2011-02-07 12:10

      vote for the ANC and go to heaven, i rather go to hell (Cape Town)

  • Stofbolletji - 2011-02-05 17:23

    Desperate words from a desperate ANC.The pressure is coming on Zuma.Viva DA!

  • william.botha - 2011-02-05 17:24

    Hehe. Ja Jakop..

  • Perfume - 2011-02-05 17:31

    Right a petition or write a petition which is it...I am voting for the OPPOSITION!!!!!

  • mariomobster - 2011-02-05 17:34

    He thought speaking zulu will prevent anyone finding out what he said. How's that for openess?

      Zinki - 2011-02-05 17:43

      Typical. But many of the reporters there know Zulu or Xhosa and they aren't all ANC inclined. I hope all the opposition parties make a huge thing of what he said. They must show him up for what he actually is!

  • Bill - 2011-02-05 17:37

    This is not the first time President Jacob Zuma has used this kind of rhetorical crap Remember not long ago he demeaned those that went across to COPE, saying that their ancestors would punish them and bring then bad luck. This is disgusting talk form a President of a country!. But then he thinks he is god! It is well know in the townships that the ANC cadre go around before elections telling voters that if they do not vote ANC, their ancestors will know they have not voted ANC and punish them. Therefore the cross is placed next to the ANC out of fear by the superstitious So this balderdash is rife from the Presidency all the way down through the party to grass roots level. Pathetic if that’s how you need to gain votes!

      emile.marais - 2011-02-05 19:11

      Once again prove of why I believe the ANC of today to be a con. They didn't win the hearts and minds of the people through love and kindness now did they? How do they say? ANC - VIP's of violence.

      Xolani - 2011-02-07 06:09

      bull crap, which township is that? Don't make up stories please especially when you are not as good as JK Rowling...

  • brinjal - 2011-02-05 17:39

    He been getting training from Bob?

      Alan - 2011-02-05 18:27

      You mean the Knob?

      K_za - 2011-02-07 11:31

      First thing my friend from Zim said: this is Bob tactics.

  • Zinki - 2011-02-05 17:41

    The sad thing is many of those at the gathering in Mthatha will believe him. They will be brainwashed and vote ANC like they do election after election. They never learn...

  • Pierneef - 2011-02-05 17:44

    I think Zuma must said that all people voting for the ANC much make themself ready to go to hell. Because with corruption at the top point of the ANC how on earth can people still voting for a corrupt party like the ANC. Their leaders like Winnie Mandela and Malema are no example for the people of SA the way the disregard their own laws they made in Parliament. Every person who still vote for the ANC are voting for a post in future. The ANC are not serious about crime the way their leaders behave in public and the way they just redeployed cadres after allegations of corruption against him or her. Like Jimmy Manyi, Tony Yengeni who are still director of some companies. How can the ANC expect from the ordinary people of SA to respect the laws of this land while their own dont care a hell about the laws. Zuma must put the example and then tthe rest of SA will follow but he is to weak to set the example. A vote for the ANC is a vote for corruptiion and the stealing of taxpayers monies. The ANC are worse than the hell.

  • patrice - 2011-02-05 17:46

    whats so wrong with the big Zed offering heaven in return for a vote ? - the other guys promise heaven and 983 virgins for their vote, and for sending the opposition to hell. And they get takers.

  • ArtGee - 2011-02-05 17:50

    Me thinks the Zulu SHAGGER said, has just COST HIM DEARLY!!! Those Black Christians, might not be part of the ELITIST ANC... but they are also NOT STUPID!!! "Integrity" is NOT a Zulu, Pedi or Xhoza word! By the word this idiot is using in his drive for REGISTERING... he MUST BE DESPERATE... He knows the ANC have lost TONS of voters and now needs to resort to a PRIMITIVE ATTACK!!!

  • Eintlik - 2011-02-05 17:50

    It will be hell as this damn ANC has no morals. They will fight dirty – they are doing so at the moment. They use Government money to finance their course. They will fight to be in the chair until death do us part. They mislead the masses unashamed .A new t-shirt and perhaps a R10 note will get the previously disadvantaged to vote ANC again. We are sitting with more K@K on our hands than what we want to believe

  • Lance - 2011-02-05 17:51

    Why would he be addressing Eastern Cape(mainly Xhosa-speaking folk, I believe), in Zulu? Seems a tad strange...

      Zinki - 2011-02-05 18:40

      Zulu is very similar to Xhosa. The Zulus understand Xhosa and vice versa.

  • marco - 2011-02-05 17:52

    Political morons like Zuma and the ANC's elite who feels they can't be touched by anyone are running nervously scared of the major opposition party,the DA,do this kind of K@K talk all the time across the world.It's not new neither is it perculiar to South Africa either.Here are some of the world's 5 most notorious marginalized through intimidation and negative campaigning K@K there is:(1)Obama the Muslim...blogs supporting Hillary Clinton during the 2008 elections spread the news that “Obama’s Kenyan older half-brother,Malik outs him as a liar and a one-time Muslim” and distributed a picture of the brothers in traditional “Muslim” dress.(2)The Hillary lesbian smear...One claimed that Hillary Clinton was having a lesbian affair with Huma Abedin,her beautiful aide...during the primary season of the 2008 US presidential elections.(3)The Arkansas Project...In December 1993,reclusive multimillionaire Richard Mellon Scaife began subsidizing The American Spectator magazine's efforts to unearth damaging information about President Clinton.(4)Watergate...unravelled into perhaps the biggest political scandal in history..planned in the inner sanctum of the Nixon administration.. President Nixon was forced to resign two years later in 1973.(5)The Clearstream affair...“Watergate à la française”...involved a fake list of public figures..were made to look as if they had received illicit kickbacks from arms sales..Among the names on the list was Nicolas Sarkozy,now president.So yeah Zuma you and the ANC do your K@K it's what South Africa are used to and expect by now.People are fedup with you and the K@K you promise but don't deliver ****all.Times up in office mate somebody else,the DA,to have go at it running our country enough of the ANC bull****.

  • roadvark - 2011-02-05 17:53

    Satan is devious....no more need be said.

  • Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-02-05 17:55

    Indeed, those who are tired of ANC ineptitude should give them hell by voting for the opposition parties. Also, pleas do confirm that you are still registered to vote. Our district was recently "sub-divided", and we have to register again. Reistration stations aren't that busy, do yourself a favour and stop by yours to ensure that your vote is not stolen by administrative shuffling.

  • burtfred - 2011-02-05 18:10

    Can you just imagine the toyi-toying and looting that will be whipped up by the ANC cadres if the DA where to win the election and take power? No ways are the looters going to just go away quietly.

      VM1 - 2011-02-05 21:24

      How will the DA achieve this- what is populaton of this country ? how can they win with one man one vote in place - Our vote is still attached along racial lines and this forum no matter how many insults they throw will never change this

  • Brieuse - 2011-02-05 18:13

    Dirty tricks by a dirty pervert.

  • Francois - 2011-02-05 18:37

    I think all the Christians should not vote for the ANC - that is good enough petition. Then Meshoe, you understand only 9 of the 10 commandments, because in 2004 you promised that you will never work with the ANC and decided to gooi your support in with them so that one of your cronies could get a Provincial Parliament Cabinet post in KZN. To vote for you is hell, because you lie and then you go and work for the same party that you now castigate.

  • Jelena - 2011-02-05 18:41

    Zuma is getting scared.He makes one fault after the other.Shame.He is a loser through and through.DA here I come.

  • Reveal Them - 2011-02-05 18:45

    What else would you get from someone that cannot distinguish right from wrong. Corruption etc.?????????????

  • Reveal Them - 2011-02-05 18:48

    ANC and DA are just politicians that will always sing from the party song book. VOTE INDEPENDANT they have no party allegiance and will look after their areas because they live and experience the real problems daily.

      Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-02-05 19:53

      That is a valid option, and to take it further, if there is no leader in your area that seems worth supporting, then consider becoming such a leader. If every community elects the best leader for their needs, the overall result should be an improvement for all of us.

      Uncle Spud - 2011-02-06 12:12

      Reveal Them: It doesn't happen like that. Independants have no real power and are just small potatoes. To change this country for the good, vote DA. The ANC will never change. They do not have the ability or the brains to make a country great. The ANC is a playground bully and they bully the Black folks more than the White folks. One day soon the Black folks will fight back and then you see the end of the likes of Zuma, Malema and the rest of the gangsters. Peace to you all and to you all peace.

  • koonrun - 2011-02-05 18:52

    Go And Vote take the day off and vote vote

  • emile.marais - 2011-02-05 19:03

    Hahaha Oh my God! What more is there to say?

  • Lezzom - 2011-02-05 19:13

    The tragedy is that no matter how bad things get the ANC supporters will no doubt still vote for their 'manne' so they deserve what they get. It's like Masondo the goof Mayor of JHB says 'There's no crisis' The only crisis is that the ANC is in power.Lie,steal, rob your own people. It's the poor who'll take the brunt of all this crap.'Taxed' to the hilt,'Tolled' to the limit,'fuelled' to destruction. G-D's truth. How much more does this pathetic Govt. think the people can pay. Oh well. The more that comes in the more gets ''taken out'' if you get my drift.

  • Israel - 2011-02-05 19:19

    Angels are ACDP members, wena Kenneth ubhala inansense laphaya kuSunday Sun, thula uthi du

      Bear - 2011-02-09 08:12

      How do you know they are Angels? What has come to this world? Every time the is elections the has to be noices Vote for the political patry that will make you happy. At the end of the day no one has seen an Angel what it looks like

  • Marusi - 2011-02-05 19:22

    Those predestined for Heaven ex Verwoerd joining those predestined for Heaven ex Zuma? Now, would that not be Hell?

  • Gatvolaswell - 2011-02-05 19:41

    heaven my arse. Does heaven just consist of screwing every girls in sight JZ??

  • coolwaynie - 2011-02-05 19:42

    His people are living in hell. He's living in KFC heaven.

  • Gatvolaswell - 2011-02-05 19:45

    Heven my ring. Does heven just consist of screwing women JZ???

  • stephen.cole1 - 2011-02-05 19:52

    Maybe it's a Dictatorship status that Zuma wants ! He should take some lessons from what's just happened in Egypt and Tunisia !