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Voters want Motlanthe - survey

2012-09-22 22:42

Johannesburg - A new survey has found most urban South Africans wanted Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe as their president rather than President Jacob Zuma, the Sunday Times reported.

The survey showed 39% of urban dwellers wanted Motlanthe as president versus 32% wanting Zuma to remain in the country's top post, according to the newspaper.

The survey, conducted by research company TNS, stated Motlanthe's approval rating was 51% versus 41% for Zuma among urban black people.

The majority of whites and coloureds preferred Motlanthe, while most Indians supported Zuma.

Zuma's approval rating was 55% in February, 46% in mid-April and 51% in July.

The main decline in Zuma's popularity took place in Soweto, Johannesburg, where his rating of 48% was the lowest since Zuma took office in 2009.

The survey was conducted in seven major metropolitan areas from among 2000 participants.

Comments
  • zolani.lubelwana - 2012-09-22 22:50

    To me Trevor Manuel would make a greate president and Thuli Madonsela being the deputy. Helen Zille would then have to be the minister of the foreign affairs. This country would move forward, believe me. Motlhante makes the the best minister.....of police or labour.

      zwe.ndlovu.7 - 2012-09-22 22:55

      Hahaha you want to demote Galema Mothlante

      Hendrik JJ Kruger - 2012-09-22 23:11

      I like the way you think!

      peter.fraser.92754 - 2012-09-23 04:43

      Mothlante is NOT the right man for the job.He is a dangerous man.He worse than Zuma as he wants to please the wrong people.

      sisa.mtwana - 2012-09-23 05:24

      http://johnpilger.com/articles/apartheid-never-died-in-south-africa-it-inspired-a-world-order-upheld-by-force-and-illusion

      thitos - 2012-09-23 07:53

      Zolani, stop smoking kush. Trevor Manuel is a useless motor-mouth. As for Helen Zille, she must pray that Zuma wins in Mangaung, because that's the only way she is gonna win renegade ANC dissidents over. If Motlanthe wins Mangaung, the script is simple, Malema comes back, he gets the country excited all over again, the ANC gets 66.6% and the rest is history. So you better hope Zuma wins.

      jock.black.50 - 2012-09-23 10:31

      ALWAYS 2ND BEST IN SA - so these leaders are our only choice!? Where is the intelligent, driven, disciplined law-abiding, inspirational leaders.... I was think more in the direction of someone like Barack Obama or even FW de Klerk who have a 1000 times more savvy and leadership skills than these things will ever have.

      kgomotso.matlaila - 2012-09-23 18:47

      hahaha!! Wishful thinking.

      claudia.meads - 2012-09-23 21:08

      kgomotso.matlaila, At least someone is thinking...

      claudia.meads - 2012-09-23 21:17

      sisa.mtwana, Anybody who takes John Pilger seriously, would also regard Julius Malema as a gifted intellectual with a bright future in the clergy. He is nothing other than a white Malema-motormouth, who shoots first, then aims later. The 1st sentence of the link of piece says it all...

      mthetheleli.ntshobololo.1 - 2012-09-23 21:50

      Keep dreaming

      sisa.mtwana - 2012-09-23 22:06

      @Claudia it is very nice of you not to be insulting or racist for a change, which means you are leaning how to live in a human race society, not black or white and I happy for you. Now you need to take off the blinkers to see a wider world that something done today can impacted on us in the future. Listen to others opinions, you don't need to believe or fellow them. The article that I read it had some facts to it and it doesn't mean I believe or support the writer.

      nina.ignjatov - 2012-09-24 13:48

      these people are idiots then!! Clearly they do not know the political ring!!! Mothlante Is behind Julius Malema!!! He will be much worse than Zuma!!!

  • kasper.mbayi2 - 2012-09-22 22:59

    I can't give Motlanthe my votes he will get votes from Sanral where he invested his money.

  • kasper.mbayi2 - 2012-09-22 23:01

    I can't give Motlanthe my votes he will get votes from Sanral where he invested his money.He doesn't care for poor people.

  • humphrey.s.mbothwe - 2012-09-22 23:03

    Surely millions of voters living in the urban areas across the country didn't partake in this survey. All these so called survey always reflect the opposite. These surveyors always talk to the wrong people.

      danie.malan - 2012-09-23 10:39

      I agree. Poor reporting too!

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-23 11:31

      It doesn't say what questions were asked. If those surveyed were only asked to choose between either JZ or KM and nobody else, then many might have voted for KM just to not vote for JZ.

  • sphala - 2012-09-22 23:05

    Obvious...no need to conduct a survey to establish Mr Motlanthe as right candidate...e molaleng.

  • mxolisi.nala - 2012-09-22 23:09

    These surveys, i find them stupid.they are just not reliable or valid. not that i support Zuma or what, i just question the reliability and the validity of these surveys.

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-23 11:33

      Yep, not enough information as to what questions were asked. Many may have chosen KM just to not choose JZ. We should be concerned if these two are the only options for the leadership of the ANC

      munashe.jani - 2012-09-23 18:23

      Zuma will get his second term, period. They can mourn all day but it won't change a thing.

  • lungile.ndyibithi - 2012-09-22 23:10

    If the ANC were to allow the country to votd for the President and candidates being these two taemaz then mine would go to Kgalema. Bt then I still feel the country need some who was nt class o Robben island or exile.

  • magzmaggyvervandal - 2012-09-22 23:38

    look around zuma.gwede mantashe.this guy with big lips whats his name um um something mthembu i mean in this country you have tobe a zulu or xhosa tobecome a president.this thugs will make sure motlanthe doesnt become a president.a leader who sleeps with Hiv wonan and took a shower wha massage is he sending to our children.that taking a shower cure aids.the ANC has lost my vote already and im not giving it to any political party

  • khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-09-22 23:55

    This survey was done by an assistant cleaner at markinoff.

      magzmaggyvervandal - 2012-09-23 00:01

      khethu you talk kaak broes.i mean a cleaner now you sound like the idiot shower man zuma

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-09-23 00:12

      Broes! Am i a broes now? And if i am that what are you, by the way what is a broes? I am using a premium oxford dictionary, i cant find a word such as that.

  • ramohapelwa.berries - 2012-09-23 00:06

    For the nation to survive, the tribe must die

      thami.ximba - 2012-09-23 04:40

      when this country was led by Xhosa icons Mandela and Mbeki did u ever raise the issue of tribalism ? hence this tribalism must die within you first. yo comment contains no sense. ANC was formed here in KZN . just a reminder bru.

  • ramohapelwa.berries - 2012-09-23 00:07

    For the nation to survive, the tribe must die

  • Cameron - 2012-09-23 00:49

    I take it the survey was done in Gugulethu.....

  • motho.batho.98 - 2012-09-23 02:35

    Most Indians surveyed prefer Zuma for SA presidency, after Zuma being appointed the president of SA what do Indians benefit from his presidency?

      juicecard.tshaka - 2012-09-23 04:20

      @motho, they got their Shabir Shaik released from jail and they run Durban like its one of their indian cities

  • B.b. - 2012-09-23 05:42

    I'm not one of the sample that has been selected, fortunately. I'll vote for whoever as long as he's an ANC delicate coz what I know is that all leaders that belong to ANC operate under the organization's policies. No more general knowledge or some sort. Whenever they are taking decisions they consult with the organization. I don't care who is infront

  • hlongwanech - 2012-09-23 06:28

    aag shame inkandlans must mobilise in soweto

  • lbrandcarstens - 2012-09-23 06:39

    Helen Zille for president!. She does not tolerate corruption and has our country and its people's best interest at heart. She does not line her pockets and those of her friends with money meant for uplifting our country. She is not power hungry. HELEN for president!

      Tshepo Gwamanda - 2012-09-23 07:00

      That's why she owns shares at pick n pay!!!? Do you think those shares were given to her because she's a great leader!!??? or do you think BIG Business 'PicknPay' saw a political ally in a most important veto province in the land!! Wise up man BIG Business is betting the winning horse!!! A great leader would have refused those shares!!!!

  • JamesMWood - 2012-09-23 07:05

    Most white and coloured preferred motlanthe, how many options were there if any? I would definately not want to choose either of them!

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-09-23 07:11

    The sad thing is that the masses will still vote for the ANC. We will end up like Zimbabwe. Hopefully I will be dead by then.

      skosana.ndlovu - 2012-09-23 07:22

      What has this to do with zim, pink people are afraid that u will be put to ur right place u belong cause zimboz don't tolerate nonsense

      gerald.nchabeleng - 2012-09-23 07:53

      True Steward, hopefully you will be dead

  • anele.mveku - 2012-09-23 07:12

    Unreliable survey.. T doesn't count much anyway.Zuma, Motlanthe or Helen NONE would make the kind of leader this country needs.

  • tuwanir - 2012-09-23 07:21

    I don't see the significance of this survey as SA is a parliamentary democracy

  • johnodup - 2012-09-23 07:23

    Motlanthe versus Zuma: that meagre choice in itself speaks volumes about the calibre of the current ANC.

  • tuwanir - 2012-09-23 07:37

    These surveys about a possible president are only suited for presidential democracies. The ANC'll make its presidential choice @ Mangaung.

      ben.separe - 2012-09-23 08:19

      It wouldn't make any difference Zuma steps down and his deputy takes over the changes would still be in slow motion.

  • Michael - 2012-09-23 07:45

    Only ANC members will decide who become the president, media and surveys are always proven wrong by outcomes of conferences of ANC, I dont know why they dont learn how ANC internal democracy works.

  • Sedeshan Naidoo - 2012-09-23 07:48

    most indians support Zuma? that is certainly disappointing, but also very hard to believe. I think that anyone with a bit of logic would want a change come election time. down with corruption!

  • kenny.bianco.7 - 2012-09-23 07:48

    Why everytime this survey is conducted we r not consulted, what makes Motlanthe better than Zuma, are those ppl surveyed members of ANC? Are they permanent citizens of SA, are they credible voters? Did they vote b4, do they understand current Politics? If they don't meet any of above, that survey is useless, let Zuma finish his last term nd fix his mistakes or finish his assignment.

  • kenny.bianco.7 - 2012-09-23 07:50

    Why everytime this survey is conducted we r not consulted, what makes Motlanthe better than Zuma, are those ppl surveyed members of ANC? Are they permanent citizens of SA, are they credible voters? Did they vote b4, do they understand current Politics? If they don't meet any of above, that survey is useless, let Zuma finish his last term nd fix his mistakes or finish his assignment. I'm sure he want to leave a GOOD LEGACY IN ANC.

  • roy.wadhams.1 - 2012-09-23 07:54

    Would make a better President than Zuma and a much better one than Mbeki. My only problem is that should he become President would he allow Malema back into the party? It would also be a good thing because then Zuma will be able to "have his day in court" so that the country can lay to rest the problem of his corruption.

  • Nhlanhla Zondi - 2012-09-23 07:58

    People are fooling themselves if they think that Motlanthe will be the next president of the ANC. Yes he will be nominated at the conference but he will not avail himself

      Michael - 2012-09-23 08:07

      People like Malema and ANCYL think Motlanthe dont know that they want to use him to ascend into position of power, cerytainly he wont stand, if he stands that will be the beggining of his end politicalLy because he dont have numbers, but also he knows that in 5 years time he will be the president, why would he want to do a gamble instead of wainting as a deputy president.

      ntsieni1 - 2012-09-23 08:11

      Your problem is that you are a zulu,,you just want zuma to remain on top position whilst he isn't doing anything for poor people

      humphrey.s.mbothwe - 2012-09-23 08:19

      @ntsieni1 don't be a tribalist moron what does being a Zulu has something to do with this. You are a fool boy, it's people like you that will destroy this country. Dumbest idiot.

      Nhlanhla Zondi - 2012-09-23 08:19

      @ntsieni here we talking politics not tribal issues that's why our country its in this state cause people when they look at each other they see white, black,zulu xhosa etc and that derail us from meeting our objectives

      Michael - 2012-09-23 08:21

      @ntsieni, zuma is has support from ANC numbers, reading your name i can assure you that even VENDA people support the president, not only Zulus, the thing is we must not change leaders because they expelled ill-disciplined Malema, that means you are a member of a member.

      zmvulane - 2012-09-23 09:04

      True! Motlanthe even gets paid as (former) \President\ anyway! Remember what Baleka Mbete did when she was offered a ministerial position when in actual fact she still gets paid as (former) Deputy President! Motlanthe has nothing to lose in Mangaung. His strategy is make some noise to keep those who support him closer and focused on him coming out of his closet before Mangaung and spend some time on international assignments. Boom JZ returns to Mahlabandlovu and he retains his position as DP and waits JUST for 4 more years.

  • jerry.phillips.393 - 2012-09-23 08:01

    Cyril Ramaphosa or Trevor Manual can close the leadership vacuum in ANC. Nkosasana Zuma as well, unfortunately she is holding an important position in Africa.

  • FeebleGastro - 2012-09-23 08:12

    The South African masses are un-educatable. Motlanthe/Malema will at the very be best just as bad as Zuma who is very, very bad. South Africa is doomed, just like the rest of Africa.

  • corne.reynders.3 - 2012-09-23 08:22

    You know the saddest thing about our country is that the gap between goverment and the people sweeping the streets at night is so vast that nobody can fix it. I don't think the DA is the right party as any short comings can just be blamed on the ANC. They always said a great leader does something a weak leader blames his predesesor. Helen Zile is out to proove a piont not to lead our country, and besides the ANC has everyone so brain washed that the whites will return the country to apartheid. I just say we need someone that will unite our country and not divide us. You know I have great respect for small kids they don't see race they see a friend and I just wish Mr Zuma or who ever get to be president next sees that we don't have time to fight anymore we need to work together to the betterment of this country and only we as the citizens of this country can make it work.

      kenny.bianco.7 - 2012-09-23 08:39

      Corne I can sense maturity in yor post, we as citizens and not politicians, they are our servants nd not our masters

      corne.reynders.3 - 2012-09-23 09:37

      That's just it Kenny they have to serve us, they are servants of the community and not figures that sit to be served. I just think that if goverment can be more hands on appoint experts in the fields of medicine and police and even in the courts don't appoint someone today and fire them tommorow the guy in that postition must be able to even say what the lowest person in the department is doing on a paticular day becuase he has been there and seen it for himself.

      Precious Sanelisiwe Miya - 2012-09-23 11:28

      the best and most mature comment i have ever come across on News24 am copying it as my Fb status. more people must see this simple yet profound truth

      shaik.spear.1 - 2012-09-23 16:17

      Corne for president!!!!!!! Politicians will never see their own faults and shortcomings, they are to busy blaming or faulting other parties or covering their own behinds! Maybe we should appoint housewives and business people to hold office, they sure as hell will get a lot more done! Maybe then we will become the industial powerhouse we should have been 50yrs ago! Corne you got my vote!

  • helma.mkhalele - 2012-09-23 08:28

    Well this not new because most of this survey are being done in Metro's not where black majority lives in rural, small and big towns and non metro's. All this is done to turn the attention and focus of the majority of the branche's away from a madate tht is given to them before mangaung. We know what we want not a survey tht gets to be seen by a fewer or less of our peole.

  • duncan.gill1 - 2012-09-23 08:36

    When you allow a man who was taken to court on rape and corruption charges what do you expect when he comes to power..to change his ways..?

      shaik.spear.1 - 2012-09-23 16:25

      innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. And if due process have run its course and the 'accused' are told you are free to go, then there is no record of a crime committed

  • sphamandla.s.ntshangase - 2012-09-23 08:36

    survey iz something not true and i dont think it will b a gud idea for motlante to be president cause malema wil bck on action wth empty mind so phambili ngo zuma phambili we love jacob zuma

  • zmvulane - 2012-09-23 08:37

    1) The correct word to use is \prefer\. Elections are in 2014 where people will declare who they \want\!!!2) Arithmetically, if you add the rural communities, Msholozi still has a greater chance of retaining the Presidency if you compare the national voters preferance for JZ. So now, why do we even read this guff!

  • shaik.spear.1 - 2012-09-23 08:50

    legend: malema spoke ill of mbeki when he could not worm his way into some political position, under mbeki's rule, he, mbeki, simply didnt take crap (well done mr Mbeki) Pres. Zuma was favoured by Malema to suceed mbeki ( somehow JM thinks HE got Zuma elected as president!) Pres. Zuma got wind of JM crappy plan to try and dig his heels in again. Rebuked him not once, not twice, eish! i lost count of how many times! Now this dilusional loudmouth thinks his 1 vote is going to cost Pres. Zuma the presidency. Lets say his single vote DID manage to get Zuma out of office, and lets say Motlanthe now favoured by malema gets to be president...........(rewind)............ Go back to the begining and just change the names!!!! I say exile this extra loud pa system to Zim! His rhetoric will fit perfectly there!

  • shaik.spear.1 - 2012-09-23 08:50

    legend: malema spoke ill of mbeki when he could not worm his way into some political position, under mbeki's rule, he, mbeki, simply didnt take crap (well done mr Mbeki) Pres. Zuma was favoured by Malema to suceed mbeki ( somehow JM thinks HE got Zuma elected as president!) Pres. Zuma got wind of JM crappy plan to try and dig his heels in again. Rebuked him not once, not twice, eish! i lost count of how many times! Now this dilusional loudmouth thinks his 1 vote is going to cost Pres. Zuma the presidency. Lets say his single vote DID manage to get Zuma out of office, and lets say Motlanthe now favoured by malema gets to be president...........(rewind)............ Go back to the begining and just change the names!!!! I say exile this extra loud pa system to Zim! His rhetoric will fit perfectly there!

  • haroldcecil - 2012-09-23 08:53

    Yes even Mbeki was a better President then Zuma so Yes 4 Mothlante.Where did u hear of a President that got 100 wives instead of helping the poor in SA he's helping the woman of Nkandla by marrying them and let the live of goverment money

      shaik.spear.1 - 2012-09-23 10:07

      harold, it is up to the citizens each for themselves to decide who they think was the better/ best president! I am sure you will understand that no one knows how good a president is going to be at time of voting, its the performance diuring the time of office that speak volumes! The fact that south africans did not have a military coup, civil war, or minorities subjected to 'ethnic' cleansing speaks for itself. Sure we are going to hear of disgruntled citizens for one reason or the other! Every country in this world have' unhappy with the government' citizens including USA and UK even Switzerland has some! Personally i would rather see a president who marries the women he is intimate with, this must surely be morally more correct than being intimate casually with these women like an US and french president and a british and australian pm!

      sphamandla.s.ntshangase - 2012-09-23 10:24

      sorry your comment iz very poor u need to go bck to school u dont know nothng abt politics

  • humphrey.s.mbothwe - 2012-09-23 09:01

    News24 is playing politics the heading of the story reads \Voters want Motlanthe - survey\ immediately below the heading they put a link:\r\n\r\nVIDEO: Motlanthe defends Malema.\r\n\r\nThey don't say that these two are related. They trying to drive the agenda. SUBLIMINAL, SUBLIMINAL, SUBLIMINAL!

  • nomzamo.kongola - 2012-09-23 09:23

    montlanthe is Zuma's second in command, he is deputy president wat is his job exactly? Coz in my view if zuma is failin as president then he is also failing as deputy, should motlanthe becum president he will onli b a puppet of the ancyl n more specifically malema, coz in my view he is a drifter he has no political views of his own n he is not headstrong he will b a push over, one shud think abt wen Zuma reali lost favour wit malema n dat was wen he instituted disciplinary hearings against them, should montlanthe becum president he is heading for political ruin...the fact that zuma has his many wives doesnt affect his presidency it simply means he stands for wat he blvs in n will even fall on the blade for it, polygamy is not a crime so y persecute him for that, why not criticize him for the economy, service delivery? Does are valid criticisms.....n who ever honestly believes Montlanthe will do a better job must reali tell me why n how? In my view if u endorse malema then u r of no value to the country or to me

  • togarasei.mataruse - 2012-09-23 09:35

    Anybody being supported by Malema I can smell a rat. Malema, what a chamileon! Malema just want someone they can use to amass wealth and take the Zimbabwe route. It will be a sad day if Malema and crew manage to win at Mangaung.

      phello.khiba - 2012-09-24 15:32

      point of correction,the survey talking abt motlante.not malema,its like this small boy its a threat, 2 any 1..but nna i support that guy.

  • bonganiemmanuel.mazibuko - 2012-09-23 09:42

    wat will Motlanthe do better than Zuma, becoz they are serving in cabinet

  • bornagiesnkululeko.nxumalo.1 - 2012-09-23 09:50

    Firstly, I would like to KNOW the authenticity of this survey as I live in urban area, Durban but, I havent come across ANY survey being conducted either by Sunday times nor an agent, I am sure that this survey is WORTHY of my comment. But, the people that supports Dep. Pres. Montlathe should think twice, in EDEN Eva was eluded by a snake, should he lead "What will happen to the HARD working South Africans, when this Malema is unleashed?"

  • jabu.chiloane - 2012-09-23 10:28

    The majority of people live in rural areas and you cant go and interview people in urban areas and then come up with a sensational advert saying voters wants Motlhanthe, it should actually be urban dwellers prefer Motlhanthe.

  • michelle.blackie - 2012-09-23 10:59

    I was not part of that survey ... do not count me as one of the 39%.... Eish!!!!

  • harold.parsons.37 - 2012-09-23 11:01

    These guys are all crooks what we need is a new party that can govern a modern country. Until the people of South Africa can get enough courage and sense to vote that people understand they want another dispensation we will go down the tubes. Zume will be the new president and Vavi and the Alliance will make sure of that, You people who keep on voted for the ANC in the past have put the country in this mess.

  • obadia.segwape - 2012-09-23 11:24

    who is doing this surveys and where were they done and why are they done AGH MAN

  • craig.drysdale.96 - 2012-09-23 11:25

    That could mean Malema gets a seat. God help us.

  • rheinhard.silima - 2012-09-23 11:48

    ANC dnt dersev 2 rule again,why dont we try ada party mayb we cn c green pasture,lets change da party

  • mothobi.kenneth3 - 2012-09-23 12:06

    The ruling party leaders are the same,they are all crooks,from president to councillors,they promised us everything in order for us to vote for them,after they get those position they disappear. The best solution is to give another party a chance to prove them self