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We should be South African first - ANCYL

2011-04-12 18:23

Johannesburg - The hate speech case against ANC Youth League president Julius Malema was addressing a symptom in South African society and not a problem of race, league secretary general Vuyiswa Tulelo said on Tuesday.

"The question is whether indeed South Africa is a non-racial society. We are dealing with the symptom not the cause," she told media at Luthuli House in Johannesburg.

Tulelo said the race question emerged at the "slightest provocation", adding that many South Africans identified themselves first by their racial group.

"We should be South African first," she said.

Malema was being sued for hate speech in the Equality Court over his singing of a struggle song containing the words "shoot the boer".

Tulelo said the case was not about Malema, an individual, it was about "trying to completely erode the history" of people in South Africa. She said the case may mean that the use of the word "apartheid" could be challenged because it offended white people, or "ANC" because it was believed to be an organisation of "terrorists".

The case should be used to "educate" South Africans as the song was used to raise political consciousness.

Tulelo was speaking at a briefing to launch the ANCYL's discussion documents ahead of its national elective congress in June.

Severe blow

During its discussion on gender, the league is expected to thrash out whether South Africa's criminalisation of the sex trade, and the way laws around it were enforced, was the "best model" for the country.

It has also taken issue with the way South Africa handled the situation in Libya, chastising its decision to vote with the United States on a no-fly zone. Tulelo questioned the government for failing to consult with the BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) countries on the decision it took.

The ANCYL did not believe that one country could determine the "solution" for another.

The last ANCYL national conference - where Malema was elected - was marred by violent altercations between rival factions and images of league members baring their behinds in front of media cameras.

The gathering in Mangaung came to an abrupt halt and had to be re-convened two months later to conclude its business.

The league was adamant that this time around, the conference would be "peaceful" but this did not mean there would not be difference of opinion on the leadership question.

League provincial conferences after Mangaung were also marred by poor organisation, with allegations of flawed processes and ghost delegates.

"The image of Mangaung... dealt a severe blow to the integrity of the ANCYL," Tulelo said.

She said the conference would be organised better and the league anticipated that it would be a "resounding success".

Discussion at the upcoming conference would be dominated by the ANCYL's quest for economic freedom through: "expropriation of strategic sectors of the economy without compensation", nationalisation, a "radical land restitution programme", "inclusive and decentralised economic growth and development", and investment in the development of the African economy.

Comments
  • Valis - 2011-04-12 18:34

    The ANCYL should change their name to the Young Hypocrites League. They are the ones always playing the race card. I have yet to see one single non-black person do that.

      mhaga.sabe - 2011-04-12 18:56

      The AfriForum should change their name to EuroForum as they represent people in SA of European decent; i see this from the comments of those who are so attached to the malema case for their own interest to distabilize Africa

      mhaga.sabe - 2011-04-12 18:58

      The AfriForum should change their name to EuroForum as they represent people in SA of European decent; i see this from the comments of those who are so attached to the malema case for their own interest to distabilize Africa

      Mike Webber - 2011-04-12 19:02

      @mhaga, learn to spell if you intend to 'engage' in any form of debate. The ANC and their racist Youth League are the one who seek to destabilize South Africa. They are all black racists !!!

      william.botha - 2011-04-12 19:15

      mhaga, then the ANCYL should change their name to the WEST AFRICAN YOUTH LEAGUE because all black people (not San or Khoi) here in SA migrated from there. The area where all the turmoil is at present.

      Lawence - 2011-04-12 19:25

      mhaga.sabe The ANCYL are the primary destabilises in SA. And the foremost racists when they not focused on destroying the economy.

      lean - 2011-04-12 19:26

      So Malema .... Yesterday you want to engage with the White Youth ... today you bringing machine guns to the courtroom to fight with them... Make up your mined Moron...

      Lawence - 2011-04-12 19:27

      Or are these just my ‘white tendencies’?

      Lawence - 2011-04-12 19:27

      Or are these just my ‘white tendencies’?

      Lawence - 2011-04-12 19:27

      Or are these just my ‘white tendencies’?

      Lawence - 2011-04-12 19:28

      Or are these just my ‘white tendencies’?

      Lawence - 2011-04-12 19:29

      Or are these just my ‘white tendencies’?

      Lawence - 2011-04-12 19:30

      Sorry all - It had said my comment could not go thru

      VuyosWors - 2011-04-12 19:35

      @mhaga.sabe destabilise Africa? What part of Africa is stable? Each country has been ruined by black tinpot dictators! Like fatboy Malema.

      VuyosWors - 2011-04-12 19:37

      @mhaga.sabe destabilise Africa? What part of Africa is stable? Each country has been ruined by black tinpot dictators! Like fatboy Malema.

      VuyosWors - 2011-04-12 19:39

      @mhaga.sabe destabilise Africa? What part of Africa is stable? Each country has been ruined by black tinpot dictators! Like fatboy Malema

      VuyosWors - 2011-04-12 19:44

      @mhaga.sabe destabilise Africa? What part of Africa is stable? Each country has been ruined by black tinpot dictators! Like fatboy Malema

      lekomonisi - 2011-04-13 12:54

      Majority of white "South Africans" are racist and it is clear that in 1994 we should have told everyone of them that if you want to stay in SA you must comply with transformation agenda or else Europe or where ever you came from is waiting for you, FINISH AND KLAAR

  • Stefan - 2011-04-12 18:35

    Ok, this is very, very rich coming from the ANCYL. How often has the opposition been labelled as 'imperialist colonialists'? That race card, so double-edged after all.

      Francois - 2011-04-12 23:50

      I was under the impression that apartheid was killed with the adoption of the Constitution by Parliament, non - racial elections and the signing of the constitution by no one else than Nelson Mandela. Thus I cannot understand why Malema want to kill apartheid and why this lady refers to it - the song says kill the boer. Then President Zuma said that Afrikaners are Africa's only white tribe - thus are we not then African first. Zuma, speak to your clown.

      Francois - 2011-04-12 23:51

      I was under the impression that apartheid was killed with the adoption of the Constitution by Parliament, non - racial elections and the signing of the constitution by no one else than Nelson Mandela. Thus I cannot understand why Malema want to kill apartheid and why this lady refers to it - the song says kill the boer. Then President Zuma said that Afrikaners are Africa's only white tribe - thus are we not then African first. Zuma, speak to your clown.

  • craiggib - 2011-04-12 18:37

    pfwahahahahahaha...pot...meet kettle.

  • Beam me up - 2011-04-12 18:39

    Not actually a symptom but a disease called the ANCYL.

      denmarku - 2011-04-12 19:23

      LOL, true. Hopefully Dr DA will vaccinate our country from the ANC virus, and ANCYL headcold!

  • Sword&Cross - 2011-04-12 18:40

    WE SOUTH AFRICANS of all races and colours and creeds have been trying to reach out to these racists in the ANC and the ANC YL for decades and invite them to the common family and nation we all share. It is merely the ARROGANCE and BLACK SUPREMISM by little people within those organisations that have tried their utmost to polarize racialism again. If for example, anyone of those in this YL had ever worked, with, for and or alongside people of other races here at home or anywhere, they would NOT have this insecurity that they continue to evidence disgustingly.

      mhaga.sabe - 2011-04-12 19:04

      Many of the youth who have been exposed to environments of working with whites have been shocked at the racism that they experience in model C schools and in the workplace. Transformation has taken place only in Govt circles and not in social environments. look at your sport codes, what has changed, rugby is still white, cricket, soccer is still black?? Until change becomes real we will always be talking black and white in SA !!

      Mike Webber - 2011-04-12 19:16

      @ mhaga, that's true, but both 'sides' have to want to change. You can't keep pointing a finger at 'whites', when you blacks want to sing 'kill the white farmers'. That is not reconciliation either!

      Mike Webber - 2011-04-12 19:16

      @ mhaga, that's true, but both 'sides' have to want to change. You can't keep pointing a finger at 'whites', when you blacks want to sing 'kill the white farmers'. That is not reconciliation either!

      logical007 - 2011-04-12 19:21

      @ mhaga yes and look at government institutions... no service delivery, they don't even answer their phones. Have youverer tried to register a company for VAT?? dont! or even get a PTY company registered don't bother. Water and electricity bills, what chaos. Eskom or should I say Eishkom???? Book a learners license? There is no need for me to continue listing government organizations that do not function. The other point, every form given to you buy a government organization asks you for your race... so who is being discriminating?

      SeanJ - 2011-04-12 19:25

      @mhaga.sabe and wat about soccer? that is a "imperliast conlonist sport and yet u guys love it so much and cant even rank anywayhere in it. Rugby is also a coloniast sport so why would u want to play it if u so against the western world. and plus if there is a black that is good enough to play the game then he will get picked and we can see that with many black talented rugby players today. The ANC just want want want all the time but why cant they think for themselves and start their own business ventures and create employment instead of just taking employment from the white "Colonialists" If it wasnt for the whites in the country there would be no jobs at all for anyone so stop complaining and start coming up with solutions. stop being pathetic.

      SeanJ - 2011-04-12 19:27

      and i work with alot of black people everyday and we all have very good working relationships. And they are all anti-malema

      TheBat - 2011-04-13 11:34

      @ SeanJ: Most intelligent black people are against Malema. They feel insulted if you say that he will be the next leader.

  • Ray - 2011-04-12 18:42

    Tulelo said the case was not about Malema, an individual, it was about "trying to completely erode the history" of people in South Africa. What a load of crap. Malema was consciously hammering on the one struggle song he knew would offend the most. A song that was sung before his time. Talking about eroding history, what about all the name changes that had been made to erode the white man's history? F*** the ANCYL! F*** al the brainless asholes associated with this dimwitted movement!

      mhaga.sabe - 2011-04-12 19:09

      @Ray your stinking crap is bigger than that of Malema, you want the street names to remain white names even after the change?? The liberation songs are part of the make up of all blacks and all blacks want to sing and dance to their freedom songs and no one will stop blacks from singing their songs!! This crap is clogging the justice syatem which should be looking at more urgent national issues, instead of waste time, money and peoples emotions on petty things like singing!!

      Grant - 2011-04-12 19:36

      @mhaga... If were to call you the 'k' word would you not be offended? Do you not realise that a large sweaty buffoon singing 'shoot the Boer' is no less offensive to us than the 'k' word is to you. Its not petty!!

      Sword&Cross - 2011-04-12 20:36

      @mhaga.sabe:- STOP STEALING EVEN THE ROADS WHITES BUILT. Go build your own blackened transforming mutated roads like malema's that keep on washing away killing grannies and other gogga's in Limpopo and NAME THEM after that creep. LOL

  • Grant - 2011-04-12 18:43

    "We should be South African first," Big issue with them making this statement..... the ANCYL believe that if you have European ancestry, no matter how many generations back, then you can never be considered to be African. That to be African you first have to be black. This viewpoint is regularly broadcast, not least by poly, mol etc.

      Grant - 2011-04-12 18:45

      Just to make it clear - I do fully subscribe to this sentiment. Just don't believe the source in this case is genuine.

      King-I.R.I - 2011-04-12 21:06

      @grant: Grant my brother, if you as a black guy come to Europe, no European will ever see you as an equal, first because you are not white and second you are not talking the language. Even blacks whom ancestors were brought there, will never be considered European. All the people of this world should be brothers and sisters first and then everyone can call himself a cosmopolite.

  • Thabo Matwabeng - 2011-04-12 18:46

    We should be South African first before or after we Kill the Boer?

      Mike Webber - 2011-04-12 19:13

      Ya exactly, the ANC just don't get it dude ... They're clueless.

  • abrham - 2011-04-12 18:48

    what about, affirmative action, bee ect. ect. scrap all thar crap and let south africans build the country together, irrespective of race.

  • Daveza - 2011-04-12 18:50

    So the next time my son applies for university I need just inform them he is a South African and he will get equal treatment. Do these children ever think before the garbage begins to drool from their mouths ?

  • PMG - 2011-04-12 18:50

    What a bunch of hypocrites.The ANCYL like their mother body are complete and utter bunch of racist's,just ask our ex finance minister.

  • SSRat - 2011-04-12 18:52

    I agree with you 100% Vuyiswa, we should all be South African first. Unfortunately the ANC do not agree with you on that. Our government has racist laws in place to classify me as a white person, and you as a black. The ANC tells me that because my skin is white, I have to stand aside and let a black person fill my place as manager in the company I work for. It does not matter that I have 30 years experience and that I am running at 97% productivity and performance (As measured during my last assesment) I am told that our company needs more BEE points, so I will be overlooked for promotion and a young 28 year old black graduate with 8 months experience in the company will be promoted ahead of me, and I will now report to him. He cannot do my job, not for any other reason than his total lack of experience or knowledge of the position I currently hold in the company. You white man, step aside so the black man can have the job you worked 30 years for. Not for any other reason but for the fact that you are a white male, and the government of the day wants you gone, you and your family can take your stuff and head out. The ANC wants to rid the country of non-blacks, and they will not rest until it's achieved.

  • POLLENYS - 2011-04-12 18:57

    OK, so let's start with giving jobs to the best qualified and cut colour out of the equation. The country will be so much better.

  • Mike Webber - 2011-04-12 19:00

    BAWAHAHAHA, sorry, let me get a hold of myself. BAWAHAHAHA Are the ANCYL smoking the green stuff now? Since when do they care about equality for all South Africans. As we speak their leader is in court because he wants to sing the song 'kill the white farmers'. WHAT A LOSER !!! The ANC have officially lost the plot. Racist, all of them !!!

  • Mike Webber - 2011-04-12 19:00

    BAWAHAHAHA, sorry, let me get a hold of myself. BAWAHAHAHA Are the ANCYL smoking the green stuff now? Since when do they care about equality for all South Africans. As we speak their leader is in court because he wants to sing the song 'kill the white farmers'. WHAT A LOSER !!! The ANC have officially lost the plot. Racist, all of them !!!

  • logical007 - 2011-04-12 19:21

    Every form given to you buy a government organization asks you for your race... so who is being discriminating?

  • logical007 - 2011-04-12 19:23

    Every form given to you buy a government organization asks you for your race... so who is being discriminating?

  • logical007 - 2011-04-12 19:24

    Every form given to you buy a government organization asks you for your race... so who is being discriminating?

  • Wolff - 2011-04-12 19:25

    Be South Africans first......please practice what you preach.

  • call a spade - 2011-04-12 19:25

    This court case is not to determine if the singing of the song is hatespeech and therefore must be banned. anc Supporters have no respect for the law and they will continue singing this song out of disrespect. This court case is about demonstrating to the WORLD that here in SA we have a "political leader" taking a public podium and sing a struggle song long after the struggle is over. A song that instigate people to MURDER other people and that he have a strong following. This will proof to the world that somewhere in future ANOTHER African country will go down the drain. SAD SAD SAD.

  • logical007 - 2011-04-12 19:28

    The other point, every form given to you buy a government organization asks you for your race... so who is being discriminating?

  • Donald - 2011-04-12 19:29

    Hi All Vuyiswa you are contradicting yourself and the ANCYL with,""We should be South African first," ..." Was it not Julius who said that "Gordan should not be Minister of Finance because he is from the minority" so if we are all SAans then how come Gordan is "minority"? Also Manyi is on record as saying," We should be having only 3% of Indians in management and Coloureds should migrate from the Western Cape.. " So where does this we are all SAns first come from? The trouble is when it suits you or the ANCYL them we are the minority but when its Elections then we are all SAns. Make up your mind we are one or the other. Come to think of it when I marched in Dbn and Jhb and faced the Apartheid forces we were all SAns, when we cleared Hillbrow of the Group Areas Act ,we were all SAns ,now Julius Malema tells us what we are because the spoils of the Revolution are for only a small group of "keaders" Good Luck Vuyiswa!!!!!!!!!

  • maseratifitt - 2011-04-12 19:29

    I'm talking to the man in the mirror...

  • VuyosWors - 2011-04-12 19:33

    Those photos from the last conference were peoples bare behinds? They looked like photos of Malemas and Shivambus faces! Could have fooled me!

  • Slapper - 2011-04-12 19:38

    We should all be subject to the same Laws and Justice in South Africa as well.

  • ian - 2011-04-12 19:44

    what is amaising JZ in Libia and swaziland burns zimbabwe in ashes tell it all

  • Hungwe - 2011-04-12 19:50

    What a bunch of complete goons/idiots - of course we should all be calling ourselves South African's irrespective of race, colour, ethnicity or creed - but that ain't going to happen so long as woodwork failure Malema & co sing songs like "Kill the Boer" - how f*cking stupid can an African be???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • CraigColinRoyMcLeod - 2011-04-12 20:09

    The concept of a youth league was something the nazi's started, funny how the same vehicle for the inherently evil and racist behavior is used by the ANC. Replace one tyrant and you generally get a worse one, we got rid of racist nobs and replaced them with corrupt incompetent more racist nobs, that are twice and evil and bleed the country dry and oppress the masses in the process which is how you stay in power. As pol pot and others proved Hitler is available in any race.

  • CraigColinRoyMcLeod - 2011-04-12 20:09

    The concept of a youth league was something the nazi's started, funny how the same vehicle for the inherently evil and racist behavior is used by the ANC. Replace one tyrant and you generally get a worse one, we got rid of racist idiots and replaced them with corrupt incompetent more racist idiots, that are twice and evil and bleed the country dry and oppress the masses in the process which is how you stay in power. As pol pot and others proved Hitler is available in any race.

  • Mushin - 2011-04-12 20:16

    Whats with white ppl giving themselves african names so they can assualt Malema and give the impression that we hate Juju........You wrong, the only reason you hate him is because he call em as he sees em...And racist white are only used to blacks that are JAA BAAS....Most of all u r not used to being challanged..... Actually our democracy is really showing its immaturity. BTW. Happy BIRTHDAY TO PRESIDENT ZUMA!!!

      Grant - 2011-04-12 20:42

      Hey mush - you are dead right on one point "Actually our democracy is really showing its immaturity". Hopefully it will one day mature into a true democracy.

      VuyosWors - 2011-04-12 21:02

      My servants still call me baas.

      King-I.R.I - 2011-04-12 21:15

      @grant: hey my broer, yeah it is true with the democrazy...but it is not only here in South Africa. Like i read in some other post democrazy is necessary to run countries that run in a capitalistic way. In countries ruled by voted governments under the banner of democrazy you will find classes and classes of people, from starving to unbelievable rich. In countries which are ruled by communist governments, you will find the same. What i want to my finger on is, that unjustice prevails in both systems and the jurisdiction is, frankly said blind. If you whites want to call your self Africans, please help us inventing an absolutely new form of governing and especially justice...

      Grant - 2011-04-12 21:52

      Hey King, I can't argue with your point here, as to your reply above, I'm not so sure. Most whites want to be part of defining this beautiful country, it is also our country and we need to be part of all aspects of it. We do not want to be forced to accept what is clearly developing into a reversed apartheid, sliding into that pit that other African states have succumbed to. However the ANC will not permit this. It has to be their way or not at all. I agree we need a new form of governing and the DA is the answer. Justice must be neutral to succeed - not cadres placed in positions of power in order to protect the activities of the ANC leaders.

      Wayne - 2011-04-13 09:51

      @Mushin - There is no hope for you in SA my friend. Your spelling and grammar is dreadful!!! How do you expect to write documents and run a company if you can't even do the basics? Rather keep your piehole shut before humiliating yourself even further.

  • Perfume - 2011-04-12 20:18

    Tell that to every white man/woman who is applying for a job, that they South African first, maybe just maybe truth will be seen in this statement. At present it is like giving birth to wind!!!!!!

  • Stox - 2011-04-12 22:12

    So I'm going to run around and sing: "Shoot the k***irs". That cool? Saying the word "apartheid" and "ANC" aren't REMOTELY the same as saying "murder white farmers" you stupid. This is what happens when you let uneducated cretins rule a country. Do they actually believe the crap that comes out their mouths? I'm not remotely a "boer" but I hope the boers whoop some ANC hate-mongering ass in this court case. People like Malema make white folk racist btw.

  • Jacques Otto - 2011-04-12 22:29

    ancyl is the onces calling non blacks settlers so how can they state we are all South African first if they them selves dont practice this towards other groups. They are like a bunch of unprepared circus clowns. When they try and justify them selves they contradict previous statements. Best the ANCYL closes shop or go and feed of Mugabes success.

  • Ripley - 2011-04-12 22:32

    Tulelo, you utter chop !! Who are the first to drag up the race issue - your own ANC kindergarten, in case you had fogotten. Don't now give us this crap about "being South African first" - first run along rather and remind the fat boy who is supposed to be trying to lead you lot (after the Johnnie Walker Blue has run out, that is).

  • Chris - 2011-04-12 22:53

    Sorry but it is the ANC that has perpetuated Race issues! Every five minutes they play the race card so really to try and act all innocent and reasonable is disingeneous!

  • Chris - 2011-04-12 22:55

    The ANC is an Ideological bedfellow of the Freedom Front - it's all about race!

  • White Oak - 2011-04-13 07:59

    ‘Tulelo said the case was not about Malema, an individual, it was about "trying to completely erode the history" of people in South Africa.’ Meanwhile her Marxist African National Congress (ANC) regime is steadily and deliberately obliterating the history of White South Africans. This is seen, in a very practical way, in the ongoing countrywide “renaming” process. Most of South Africa’s cities and towns were planned, laid out, and built by White South Africans. It is not surprising, then, that the cities and streets and buildings were for the most part named after various white leaders and heroes of the past. Even so, however, South Africa has always had beautiful place names in the black languages as well. But this is not good enough for the ANC. They have embarked on a deliberate policy of what they call “transformation”: the process of “transforming” SA’s cities and towns by deliberately erasing the monuments to English and Afrikaans South Africans, renaming the cities, and renaming the streets after predominantly ANC terrorist “heroes” and others. We do not have the most sophisticated electorate on the planet - which African country does? The question therefore is, how would an unsophisticated electorate respond to the continuous brainwashing that white people have robbed them of everything they ever had, or could have had and that the white people are the cause of all ills that blacks, their ancestors and their descendants have ever, or are ever going to experience? How did the Rwandan Hutu react when the continuous call came to kill the cockroaches? Hutu Power asserted that the Tutsi intended to enslave the Hutu and must be resisted at all costs…see the parallels? What does ‘kill the boer’ call for? So let us stop the BS. We all know the ‘kill the boer’ chant is a word-of-mouth undertaking throughout the entire black population of South Africa that the whites are to be slaughtered on a piecemeal protracted basis in the exact manner that we see taking place in South Africa at this precise moment. So accordingly Tulelo, as a white South African, I defecate with utter contempt on your condescending, hypocritical attempt at guilt projection, shamelessly trying to frame us as the perps while in truth we are the victims.

  • White Oak - 2011-04-13 08:01

    ‘Tulelo said the case was not about Malema, an individual, it was about "trying to completely erode the history" of people in South Africa.’ Meanwhile her Marxist African National Congress (ANC) regime is steadily and deliberately obliterating the history of White South Africans. This is seen, in a very practical way, in the ongoing countrywide “renaming” process. Most of South Africa’s cities and towns were planned, laid out, and built by White South Africans. It is not surprising, then, that the cities and streets and buildings were for the most part named after various white leaders and heroes of the past. Even so, however, South Africa has always had beautiful place names in the black languages as well. But this is not good enough for the ANC. They have embarked on a deliberate policy of what they call “transformation”: the process of “transforming” SA’s cities and towns by deliberately erasing the monuments to English and Afrikaans South Africans, renaming the cities, and renaming the streets after predominantly ANC terrorist “heroes” and others. We do not have the most sophisticated electorate on the planet - which African country does? The question therefore is, how would an unsophisticated electorate respond to the continuous brainwashing that white people have robbed them of everything they ever had, or could have had and that the white people are the cause of all ills that blacks, their ancestors and their descendants have ever, or are ever going to experience? How did the Rwandan Hutu react when the continuous call came to kill the cockroaches? Hutu Power asserted that the Tutsi intended to enslave the Hutu and must be resisted at all costs…see the parallels? What does ‘kill the boer’ call for? So let us stop the BS. We all know the ‘kill the boer’ chant is a word-of-mouth undertaking throughout the entire black population of South Africa that the whites are to be slaughtered on a piecemeal protracted basis in the exact manner that we see taking place in South Africa at this precise moment. So accordingly Tulelo, as a white South African, I defecate with utter contempt on your condescending, hypocritical attempt at guilt projection, shamelessly trying to frame us as the perps while in truth we are the victims.

  • cheetahh - 2011-04-13 08:32

    Other countries have terrorism to worry about, well they are darn lucky. SA we have the ANCYL …..

  • 50something - 2011-04-13 09:02

    "We should be South African first," she said. And so say most South Africans. But the utopia of a non-racist South Africa is fading very fast. Moderate people are becoming racist because of various factors, such as immature "leaders" like Malema, a president who allows this racist to continue on his destructive path, local governments that used to work, are now in a mess, affermative action, etc. etc. Whites are being alienated in their own country. And by the way, whites have their struggle fro freedom history as well, not only the ANC. if we do not respect each other's heritage, we do not have any hope in our dear country.

  • 50something - 2011-04-13 09:04

    "We should be South African first," she said. And so say most South Africans. But the utopia of a non-racist South Africa is fading very fast. Moderate people are becoming racist because of various factors, such as immature "leaders" like Malema, a president who allows this racist to continue on his destructive path, local governments that used to work, are now in a mess, affermative action, etc. etc. Whites are being alienated in their own country. And by the way, whites have their struggle fro freedom history as well, not only the ANC. if we do not respect each other's heritage, we do not have any hope in our dear country.

  • Jo - 2011-04-13 10:20

    It would be nice if the ANCYL could tackle some issues that apply directly to youth for once - imagine an agenda like this: Methods to change the way the youth see schooling Ways to teach youth sexual responsibility How to get the Constitution into every primary school Ways to attract youth to qualify in trades such as plumbing, electrical, nursing and agriculture Tackling the growing drug problem affecting youth Formulating strong life-skills programs for youth Just for starters.

  • Yasr - 2011-04-13 10:23

    Advice from a colored oukie. As a Cape Malay male of thirty I have some advice to the white (GODS? BUILDERS OF ALL THINGS GREAT?) of our country. Sit back and chill. Go with the flow. This too shall pass. My people have been doing it for ever. It cant always be your time n the spotlight. Do some community service. Participate in building our country. Feed some hungry children. Educate the proletariat on their rights. Break the pattern of your forefathers. Teach you children different truths than those you were taught. Help them adapt and be versatile. Make some money were you can. Embrace the change, even though its not in your favor! No change has ever been in my favor. An empowered majority will do wonders for us all. Corruption? You think pre ANC times was any less corrupt for me? Just go with the flow, live life, and die in peace. The power, whites abused it, and they lost it. Perhaps the ANC will do the same, but then they will lose it too. I am grateful for your voice, "Wit mense", someone needs to speak up, and I wont, because really, ANC? NP? As a cape malay male I have never seen an uncorrupted government, though being able to tell my white colleague to sit down and shut up his working on my nerves is a start. So to all of you drug addled, drunk every weekend, My great grand daddy blah blah blah winey? ass sense of entitlement no education (Rondebosch boys is still just matric! and scouts and army does not count!)idiots, chill, and go with it!

      Xolani - 2011-04-13 11:56

      BRAVO !!!! well said Yasr ... **standing ovation**

  • alijmain - 2011-04-13 11:53

    Your organisation polarizes and divides South Africans and we must be 'South Africans'. We are South Africans and proudly so, its the ANCYL that needs to join the party!! Wake up a**holes

  • alijmain - 2011-04-13 11:53

    Your organisation polarizes and divides South Africans and we must be 'South Africans'. We are South Africans and proudly so, its the ANCYL that needs to join the party!! Wake up a**holes

  • GrL - 2011-04-13 12:33

    for employment equity purpose's the government don't see us all as africans.. I'v been in Human Resource for 7 years now and seen it go from B for black C for coloured I for indians A for asians and W for whites..........it's now A for african C for coloureds I for indians and W for white...they don't want us to be seen as africans...I grew up in the apartheid era but I was too young to know what was going on...I consider myself to be a south african....but the govenment even wants to take that away....

  • GrL - 2011-04-13 12:34

    for employment equity purpose's the government don't see us all as africans.. I'v been in Human Resource for 7 years now and seen it go from B for black C for coloured I for indians A for asians and W for whites..........it's now A for african C for coloureds I for indians and W for white...they don't want us to be seen as africans...I grew up in the apartheid era but I was too young to know what was going on...I consider myself to be a south african....but the govenment even wants to take that away....

  • jan.jordaan1 - 2011-04-18 15:19

    bulldust........we are human first......

  • sponkie - 2011-04-18 19:21

    Mamela! How do you expect our white brothas to feel South African if you sing songs to offend them? It is not worth it, Comrade Malema. Rather use all the moneys to pay for your hotel bill. You give ANCYL a bad bad name.

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