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We're guilty for thinking - Malema

2012-02-10 14:03

Pretoria - Embattled ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema used what he said could be his farewell address on Friday to press his calls for nationalisation of South Africa's economy, making clear he is determined to remain a political force.

Malema made his first public appearance since an ANC appeals body confirmed a finding that he is guilty of serious discipline violations. He was given a chance to argue against a possibly career-ending suspension from the party, but seemed to acknowledge on Friday that his options are limited.

"Maybe this is a farewell speech," he said.

He went on to deliver a lengthy review of the Youth League's history, saying founding members like Nelson Mandela had radicalised the larger organisation in the 1950s. While Mandela had led the battle to end apartheid, the Youth League today must fight for economic liberation, Malema said, calling for "nationalisation of mines, banks and monopoly industry."

Key issues


Malema's proposals to address the key issues of poverty and unemployment have earned him criticism from some in the ANC, but applause from frustrated young South Africans. This week, both the president and the mining minister have reiterated that nationalising mines is not the ANC government's policy.

On Friday, about 200 top Youth League leaders greeted Malema, dressed in a yellow T-shirt and black beret, with spirited song, and several times interrupted his speech with cheers. At the end of his hour-long speech, they rose to serenade him with an apartheid-era song commemorating the fighting spirit of young South Africans.

Malema made an oblique reference during his speech to reports his finances are being investigated amid allegations he has peddled his influence over the government in his home province, Limpopo. He has denied accusations he is corrupt.

"We are now preparing for a life outside the ANC, and possibly in prison," Malema said, but added he believed he would ultimately prevail.

Malema claimed his ideological rivals were trying to silence him and repress the Youth League.

"We are found guilty for thinking," he said, referring to the disciplinary process.

He repeated accusations that he was brought before the ANC disciplinary committee to settle political scores, allegations the appeals committee dismissed. He called his disciplinary hearings unfair, but said he would not take the party he loves to court, an option that is open to him.

Power struggle


The punishment he faces could lead to the ANC calling for him to step down as head of the Youth League. But Malema said Friday he would only step down if the Youth League demanded it, setting the stage for a protracted power struggle.

In the future, Malema said, South African leaders will not be able to blame the country's problems on apartheid.

"Our generation will have to take full responsibility on why young people do not have jobs and why there are not proper houses for all our people," he said.

Malema's youth wing is known for getting voters to the polls and using its weight to choose party leaders. Malema is credited with helping President Jacob Zuma come to power in 2009.

The ANC, which marks its 100th anniversary this year, has won every national election in South Africa, and most provincial and local votes since apartheid ended in 1994.

Since 2009, Malema has questioned Zuma's leadership, one of the reasons he was initially hauled before the disciplinary committee. He was found guilty on charges related to comments about Zuma and about the government's support for the government of neighbouring Botswana, which the ANC Youth League had labelled imperialist.

The charges concerned relatively narrow issues, compared to the broader debates Malema has sparked.

In September, Malema lost a suit brought by a white rights group that had accused him of hate speech for repeatedly singing a song some whites find offensive.

Malema and others say "Shoot the Boer" is a call to resist oppression. Malema and his supporters have continued to sing the song despite a court order banning it.

He also has repeatedly defied more senior party leaders by arguing the country's mines should be nationalised, and land forcibly seized from whites and given to blacks.

Comments
  • Deon - 2012-02-10 14:10

    Wait, wait,wait....I feel a tear coming on.....Nope sorry false alarm

      Susanna - 2012-02-11 09:39

      If the Youth League's delegates re-instate Malema as leader, it means the Youth League must be a completely separate political party. The ANC voter roll will diminish, but how many will vote YL and how many ANC? Will the ANC put up with Malema (again) to keep their party whole? What is YL age anyway? Last time I checked a youth was a person in their teens or early twenties. Malema should retire or change YL to just L to fit the profile.

      satanslord - 2012-02-11 11:20

      Malema is NOT sane, he is crackers, bonkers, 51 cards shy of a full deck....lights are on but nobody's home....a total Loser (dead from the neck up) and that's the truth.

      Hugo - 2012-02-11 13:53

      Susanna very few normal humans would vote for the ANCYL.A split is not likely either.Malema&co. aren't the ANCYL btw,they are just a bunch of uncouth bully boys.ANC and ANCYL will leave forever,sad for some but true.

      Calvyn - 2012-02-11 19:53

      Pdilapiso - I can see your frustration - unfortunately its for naught. If you really want to change your future advocate family planning - thats the real reason for the sorry mess we have today. Your solutions will drive this country to its knees, and only hasten the ucomfortable truth us "whites" have to deal with - the eventual genocide - we are sitting on a powder keg, and the fuse is already lit.

      Tonde - 2012-02-11 22:49

      I feel sorry for black south African, here you have one of your own who knows how it feel to be economical free and he would like you have political and economical freedom also and he is trying to open your eyes so that you can also see, but you are refusing. Where I come from they would have classified you "FOOLS". Melema is driving the true ANC agenda the one that Mandela even failed to uphold when he was released and put into power by the whites he later served. If the true be said Mandela failed the south African by taking a detour from the vision of the ANC fathers, and it is the reason why up today he is loved by the whites in S.A. Cde Malema in S.A a few people will see the good work you are going because they dont know anything better and their leader have betrayed them. You are indeed guilty of Thinking and dont be told otherwise.

      pdilapiso - 2012-02-11 23:54

      this is coward acts by News24,stupid too! How can i engage into debate if my comments are deleted...just mentioning the word "truth", "whites" or "media"? but people are reading my comments & responding accordingly! is something I’m doing wrong or is news24 hiding something?point in case" Calvyn just metioned my name on his response" why?What r u hiding?

      Jacqui - 2012-02-12 11:54

      Tonde, You probably wrote Malema's speech. Try again.

  • Elle-Black - 2012-02-10 14:10

    No Julius you are guilty for speaking out of your backside.

  • Alfred - 2012-02-10 14:13

    If there is one thing he isn't guilty of it's thinking. Anyways, I guess we all get to look forward to seeing what other outstanding individuals the YL can scrape off the bottom of their shoe, er, barrel.

      Yar - 2012-02-11 09:43

      @Alf Sadly, Melanoma is thinking. This garbage he spouts is the result of his thinking. I hope he stops thinking soon.

  • Kyle - 2012-02-10 14:13

    Last thing I think anyone would say Malema does is think...

      Peter - 2012-02-11 15:48

      He thinks a lot about himself, thats for sure. But I think he has the brain capacity of a stone besides that ability.

  • Felix - 2012-02-10 14:14

    Take your cows and pss off to Zim with uncle Bob.

  • Justin - 2012-02-10 14:15

    It is incomprehensible how selfish and irresponsable juju really is, there are real issues, like poverty aleviation and job creation that can be solved by the youth, but he has them thinking it needs to be "commie" time!

  • Hanno - 2012-02-10 14:15

    No one can think with a sub-zero IQ, unfortunately.

  • Dave - 2012-02-10 14:19

    About the only thing our precious baby can never be found guilty of

  • Shirley - 2012-02-10 14:20

    Wrong juju-you cannot be guilty of something you are incapable of doing-THINKING! Nice try but you cant pull that one over us you sly dog!I think your last thought was what was the purpose of the hammer and nails in woodwork class and judging by your marks-it still has you baffelled! Lastly-PLEASE dont use your name[MALema] and Mandela in the same sentence! You insult a proud man!

  • LekkePerd - 2012-02-10 14:20

    Geez, this must have taken him about 4months to prepare, cant be much grey matter left. Hope fully and not maybe this was the last. Go boy, the cattle are calling.....Mooooooooooo

  • Thelma - 2012-02-10 14:21

    No JuJu you are guilty of pure ignorance!!!!!

  • Dean Hart - 2012-02-10 14:24

    "We are guilty of thinking" it's not the thinking it's your big mouth Mr Julius

  • Ziggie - 2012-02-10 14:24

    Guilty when you think???, did you steal someone's brains??

  • LekkePerd - 2012-02-10 14:25

    What about a new name: Heard Boy?

  • Graham - 2012-02-10 14:28

    What about greed, fraud, corruption, lying, hate speech, inciting violence etc. Thinking? I don’t think so! Rather tell us who’s bidding you were you.

  • Roy - 2012-02-10 14:30

    Hey juju,do you know what it means to think. It means keep your mouth shut and only open it when you have something positive to say.

      Isabel - 2012-02-10 15:11

      Or something intelligent! But then - nah! Yhat's too much to expect from Juliarse.

  • sidney.gilroy - 2012-02-10 14:45

    This reminds me much of Nero playing the lyre, whilst Rome was burning. Malema hides behind populist rethoric whilst his powerbase in the northern provinces burn. He is a product and a victim of his beloved ANC`s spectacular demise after bringing democracy to South Africa. I give the ANC 10 years max of governance still. The money will run out. Unemployment will continue to skyrocket. The grants will not be paid. Every ANC office in this country will be burn to the ground. It is coming.

      Douglas - 2012-02-10 15:21

      I do hope not.

  • Deon - 2012-02-10 14:46

    Start the DOPE party as you can not Cope the ANC politics.

  • Gavin - 2012-02-10 14:46

    Aww shame, there's the door, don't let it hit you in the head/ass on your way out.

  • kardollie - 2012-02-10 14:53

    the bastard can't think for himself,inja

  • braamc - 2012-02-10 14:54

    You are a thieve, corrupt, stupid to name a few. Take your groceries and f%$ck off already

  • Dennis - 2012-02-10 14:56

    Oh no dear juju, you have never had a thought that stayed in your mind long enough !!Please fill in the ID 10 T form to become a thinker !!

  • Larry - 2012-02-10 14:58

    Even that is a lie. The last thing Malema is guilty of is thinking. You have to have a Brain to think.

  • acsteyn - 2012-02-10 15:02

    Don't worry Julius, they could never find you guilty of thinking. I mean that kind of acusation is reserved for peple with a brain.

  • Blignault - 2012-02-10 15:05

    The only thing that JUJU has ever said that makes sense: In the future, Malema said, South African leaders will not be able to blame the country's problems on apartheid. "Our generation will have to take full responsibility on why young people do not have jobs and why there are not proper houses for all our people," he said

  • Julie - 2012-02-10 15:06

    Guilty for thinking? It all depends on what they were thinking about!

  • Dave - 2012-02-10 15:13

    It is unbelievable that the "youth" of today actually believe people like Malema - he has been influenced by "Bob- jan" Mugabe (impossible to brain wash a brain when there is not one) - to the point of no return!! Wish the "youth" of today would go and see what Mugabe has done to what was one the best countries in the world!!!! Do you want South Africa to be as bad?????????????????

      Dan - 2012-02-11 01:43

      @Dave , I am probably the biggest Malene hater , BUT , loook at his following , who currently in South Africa is adressing the problem ??? At least Juju propose that they steal the mines and the banks , and stop robbing and mugging our poor citizens . Juju may go away , the problems does not . we will be in deep trouble when the next ANCYL leader adress the same problems and he has a bit more of Charisma . If all these unemployed youths can be mobilised they will be a very dangerious force that can throw this country back into the middle ages . Like i sed as much as I hated him and im glad to se the ""little communist agent "" go the next one is probably going to be worse

  • Mashudu - 2012-02-10 15:21

    Malema tell us something we don't know.

  • trix.duvenage - 2012-02-10 15:21

    You have it all wrong JM You are guilty of NOT thinking. Because if you have ever made time to think what your attitude is doing to this country you would have pushed your head up your own arse, formed a wheel and rolled down table mountain way down into the sea....

  • Solly - 2012-02-10 15:21

    malema no one will take your leadership skills,leadership is in your bloodstream. zuma and mantashe they will step down,viva juju viva

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-02-10 16:16

      @Solly...shame you are most unfortunate to be such a gullible person, to listern to a fool, but not fully understand the consequences of the "boys" plans...sit and think this out.... you will see, Malema has the wrong end of the stick.

      Piston - 2012-02-11 12:29

      lol...Sorry Solly...but what exactly has JM done for the country. Please name ten initiatives to help the youth. Thanks.

  • Sean - 2012-02-10 15:26

    This guy just doesnt learn that he isnt helping his cause.Just doesnt learn

      Tonde - 2012-02-11 22:43

      I feel sorry for black south African, here you have one of your own who knows how it feel to be economical free and he would like you to be political and economical free also and he is trying to open your eyes so that you can also see, but you are refusing to. Where I come from they would have classified you "FOOLS". Melema is driving the true ANC agenda the one that Mandela even failed to uphold when he was released and put into power by the whites he later served. If the true be said Mandela failed the south African by taking a detour from the vision of the ANC fathers, and it is the reason why up today he is loved by the whites in S.A. Cde Malema, in S.A a few people will see the good work you are going because they dont know anything better and their leader have betrayed them. You are indeed guilty of Thinking and dont be told otherwise.

  • mabotjak - 2012-02-10 15:26

    Wake up and smell the coffee: nationalization is not the policy of the rulling ANC government. "mixed economy" is- as the pres refereed earlier in the week.

  • Gary - 2012-02-10 15:33

    Mr Malema is not my role model and I don't look at him as a leader. He should be expelled from the ANC as he is no longer going to represent the youth of South Africa but himself.

  • Gary - 2012-02-10 15:37

    Mr Malema must be expelled from the ANC and if left to lead the the youth leaque, be sanctioned to adress the ANC with matters of the youth leaque. He is now showing to be a dictater...

  • Willem - 2012-02-10 15:42

    THINKING HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Innis - 2012-02-10 15:44

    You are the weakest link, GOODBYE!

  • Mike_or_Mpho - 2012-02-10 15:57

    F off already

  • rory.short1 - 2012-02-10 16:01

    I believe in economic freedom and so apparently does Julius Malema. However I cannot square his calls for nationalisation with his apparent equally ardent commitment to economic freedom. Nationalisation is the complete antithesis of economic freedom as I understand it. Either his thinking is confused or he has a completely different understanding of economic freedom to that which I have.

      Peter - 2012-02-11 15:52

      True. And I agree that monopolies are not a good thing, but once the state controls them, there will be one big mega monopoly - so I can't see how state ownership helps anybody. Rather the state should just keep control by using the "Competition Commission" etc. Wages will drop drastically if everything is state owned, besides that of those at the helm. (Julius and Co, thats his real dream)

  • comurray - 2012-02-10 16:04

    Unfortunately Juju does not know that it takes a person with brains to be able to think, that is why the youth league are able to persuade their uneducated brainless followers to vote ANC time after time. However this will not go on for ever as the brainless by some miricle will realise that voting for the ANCancer only prolongs their misery.

  • thelittlegreenhouse - 2012-02-10 16:11

    Of all the things the ANC Youth League may be accused of, thinking is definitely not one of them.

  • brettcch - 2012-02-10 16:33

    On the contrary, you're guilty for NOT thinking. You had the opportunity to change the lives of South Africans for the better. You had everything going for you to do so. Frankly, if that's what you call thinking then, yes, you're guilty for thinking.

  • peter.mcfie - 2012-02-10 16:35

    It appears as though Malema is creating a scenario where as he will continue to enjoy the support of his (former ANCYL) followers because he is driving a fake opportunity for revolutionary "economic reform" amongst the poor. His attempt to mobilize the masses will end badly because nationalization of major industry is not something that will just happen because a loud mouthed politician says so. As the SA population becomes more educated the influence some opportunistic politicians have will reduce, until then I guess we will have to endure some stupidity.

      ISO - 2012-02-10 16:43

      Indeed!

  • aardvarkie - 2012-02-10 16:42

    MAYDAY!! MAYDAY!!! We're SINKING! "Vot are yoo Seenking?"

  • Marion - 2012-02-10 16:50

    Juju and his sidekicks shouldn't think 'cos it's hazardous to their health - all that exertion could cause a brain farct or something.

  • Paul Sdoow - 2012-02-10 16:52

    the fortunate thing is any country can survive an ignorant idiot in power. but what it can't survive is the couple of million idiots who voted that person in power. educate the masses and then let them decide for themselves what is best. this country does not need a border collie to herd the sheep. and for the people who rely on stats to prove a point think of next time you drive as 36 percent of road accidents are caused by drunk drivers that means 64 percent were caused by sober drivers . so drive drunk there less of a chance to have an accident . . . yes that's the thinking of some top politicians at present.

  • foxiloxi - 2012-02-10 16:58

    Malema "Guilty of thinking" - IF there was ever a more appropriate oxymoron, please show it to me:-) Bwaaahahahahaha

  • Elkieta - 2012-02-10 17:01

    You are guilty of thinking because you can't think.It should be a sin for you to think

  • Chaapo - 2012-02-10 17:11

    Malema and thinking - truly an oxymoron.

  • Russell - 2012-02-10 18:13

    Ya Donovan Moodley was also guilty for thinking the way he did.malema

  • Russell - 2012-02-10 18:14

    Donovan Moodley was guilty for thinking the way he did too. Malema , you a fruit cake dude.....