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Youth must be disciplined - Zuma

2012-02-23 15:17

Johannesburg - The energy and innovation of the youth are vital to the ANC, but their ideas should be argued through the proper structures, ANC president Jacob Zuma said on Thursday.

"If you think you are right, pursue the argument correctly within the proper structures," he said, without mentioning the possible expulsion of ANC Youth League president Julius Malema.

He told delegates at the National Union of Metalworkers of SA's national political commission that it was normal for the youth to be militant.

Part of the ANC

However, the ANCYL was a part of the ANC, and not a separate entity.

It should present ideas to the ANC itself and within ANC structures, realising that unless the proposal was accepted it was not ANC policy.

"You can make the noise 24 hours, the whole year, it doesn't change the path of history," he said.

Zuma said he was once a militant youth league member and had been part of a plan to descend on Durban's old Smith and West Street to kill white people.

At the last minute, the youths behind the plan informed an ANC leader of their intentions.

"We are going to butcher them... And the leaders will come and lead the revolution," Zuma recalled.

Mistakes

However, the youths got such a tongue-lashing they slunk away and abandoned their plan. People made mistakes.

"If they don't make mistakes they are not the youth," he said.

Youths were vocal because of the problems the country faced.

"But they must be disciplined," Zuma said.

Comments
  • Peter-Peter - 2012-02-23 15:21

    "...that it was normal for the youth to be militant." I stopped reading right there. NO MR PRESIDENT!!! in what country, other than a war torn country, are the youth 'militant'???

      Peter-Peter - 2012-02-23 15:23

      its all the racist CR*P that puppet of yours spewed from his rechid rotting mouth.

      Deon - 2012-02-23 15:25

      Maybe they can fight the Somalian pirates?

      Kent - 2012-02-23 16:15

      @Peter-Peter. I thought the youth should be respectful and yearn for knowledge. Definitely not militant.

      Peter-Peter - 2012-02-23 16:22

      Precisely Kent...when we were growing up (I am sure you too), I was taught to obey the law, look out for traffic, respect your elders, dont look for trouble, behave at school...not one single one of those rules apply to the 'youth' of today. "Kids should be seen, and not heard"

      msendi - 2012-02-23 16:44

      "...that it was normal for the youth to be militant."… Zuma is not lying. I also was a youth when this country was in a political crisis, when South Africa was in the verge of being a war torn country. Having old people around you telling you how cruel the system was, referring to June 16 and all massacres that took place in that era, it was normal for a young person to be militant, but discipline was always emphasized. That is why I always thank God for a people like Mandela. They stood against those who wanted war to solve problems that South Africa had… Today is a time of rebuilding, helping our youth to shape their future. The term "militant" is outdated…

      trix.duvenage - 2012-02-23 17:07

      Maybe Mr President should tell us the difference between militant and unintelligent...the difference between millitant and ignorant... Why do we need millitants in South Africa? The youths dont necessarily need to be desciplined.... their leaders need to be educated for a start and then if the leader happens to be Juli-arse he needs to be half strangled firstly and then he need a lot of psyco treatment before he can be allowed to get NEAR any youth again. Zuma must wake up but if he stays serious to get J out of the picture it can only happen for the best in SA. It is EXACTLY what our politicts need at this stage in time :-) :-)

  • Sharon - 2012-02-23 15:24

    Too little too late, mr Zuma. The damage done through 3 years of inaction could well be irreversible. You have given them free reign for way too long.

      Gustav - 2012-02-23 15:37

      yipyip!!!! "Youth must be disciplined" and after that they must be EDUCATED!!!!!!!!!!!

      Gustav - 2012-02-23 15:39

      A person that follows that mango head(bra julius) cant possibly be educated.... or am i missing something...?

  • Jayb - 2012-02-23 15:24

    Coward...Msholozi

  • Andrew Worrall - 2012-02-23 15:25

    My president was willing to butcher me for being white? Nice one. Explains why things are as they are.

      E=MC2 - 2012-02-23 15:35

      exactly!

      Johan - 2012-02-23 15:42

      Agreed...did he really change?

      Andrew Worrall - 2012-02-23 15:42

      Even if I agreed that apartheid was wrong? Probably

      E=MC2 - 2012-02-23 15:45

      nope... just changed his tactics a bit if you ask me

      Snoopy.zn - 2012-02-23 15:51

      Johan, a leopard NEVER changes his spots. Slaap met een oog oop!

      Irene - 2012-02-23 16:42

      Andrew, why do you call this thing 'my president'? He is not worthy of respect in any form whatsoever.

      msendi - 2012-02-23 17:07

      Don't take it personal Andrew. The country was in crisis and there was a lot of confusion. Some whites was also ready to butcher blacks, some even did it, no one is a saint here. At least we are here, with right attitude and dedication to fight for what is right the future might be brighter than we think…

      Lee - 2012-02-23 18:12

      I like your attitude Msendi. Thank you. There is so much goodness regardless of the 'badness' and this is what I shall continue to embrace. This is my country, our people of diverse cultures and societies have taught me so much, and I will continue on my journeys of spreading smiles rather than snarls. It may sound simplistic to some, but will hopefully create the 'yes I matter' moments to many more. Take care :)

  • Nigel - 2012-02-23 15:27

    thats wonderfull...so the youth should be militant, wonderful coming from our president, what century are these people living in ???????

      shaun.cousins1 - 2012-02-23 17:11

      a country where the is no respect for one another and life means nothing. the only way the majority can get somewhere is when they....LIE...STEAL....AND KILL.

  • John - 2012-02-23 15:27

    "Zuma said he was once a militant youth league member and had been part of a plan to descend on Durban's old Smith and West Street to kill white people." "At one point you cant believe, I wanted to kill white people." Scary to think he is our prez...

      Ashley - 2012-02-23 15:36

      If it was a thought then, its still in his mind i think. look at his big mouth racist Juju. where do you think he gets all his ideas from? remember, Shoot the Boer.

      SJ - 2012-02-23 17:27

      To date he has never cleared himself from the butchering that happened in ANC camps either.

  • Forsythe - 2012-02-23 15:29

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant believe what i just read. speechless.

  • Yolanda - 2012-02-23 15:34

    No Mr President, it's not normal for the youth to be militant unless you are trying to breed a nation of aggression and combative people.

  • E=MC2 - 2012-02-23 15:35

    So... who are the racists now MR President? You may not be butchering us in the street, but you are slowly but surely bringing those plans into fruition behind the scenes!

      Doc - 2012-02-23 15:47

      Makes you wonder if his displeasure with JuJu has less to do with following the party line and more to do with the fact that JuJu was giving the game away by announcing it so publicly.

  • Alex - 2012-02-23 15:38

    It's amazing that they aren't disciplined considering the "impressive" role models and leaders available.

  • Nicholas - 2012-02-23 15:40

    Really? you can only be disciplined by being disciplined and so far the government has banned all the tried and tested methods of discipline, especially in schools. More waffle from the Prez that is actually meaningless.

  • Doc - 2012-02-23 15:42

    How does the leader of a free and democratic nation admit to wanting to slaughter white civilian people. Way to make us feel safe chief. Wonder what would happen if Mulder made the same statement except that as a youngster he wanted to go and slaughter black civilian people. Ridiculous!! Once a terrorist always a ................ and now you hold the reigns of power.

  • GeeWizz - 2012-02-23 15:47

    The BLACK YOUTH in this country is very lazy. I am a BLACK YOUTH myself and I sometimes look at my firends and colleagues and wonder when are they deciding to change there perceptions on life and start working hard towards rowing this country and stop waiting for government handouts. Most of them just want to claim disability grant from the state because they are lazy to work for a living.

      Andrew - 2012-02-23 16:29

      Presently, the youth have not been properly educated and it is a case where they feel they are entitled to have everything for free. Hard work and discipline is what is needed, not all have the ability to manage a business or have a cushy office position with big salaries and fancy motor cars. Young people must earn trust and not destroy what does not belong to them when confronted with adversity.

  • Derk - 2012-02-23 15:49

    when are you going to get rid of Juluis Delema Zuma you are spineless you have no backbone

  • Doc - 2012-02-23 15:51

    News 24 missed a trick here, headline should have read "Zuma admits to wanting to slaughter white people" would have had far more hits.

  • Brett - 2012-02-23 15:51

    Lets hope some of the "lesser" educated ANC followers do not take this reckless article/report by our president as a current view (refering to the "kill white people")

  • Peter - 2012-02-23 15:53

    And YOU will be disciplined at Mangaung. Your days are numbered.

      Poloyatonki - 2012-02-23 16:09

      I agree, its time to get rid of this shower head once and for all. I lost my faith in him the day he turned his back towards Juju.

  • Irene - 2012-02-23 15:58

    OMG and this thing is the president!!!

  • Lesawana - 2012-02-23 15:59

    And no one suspended u JZ!

  • Gaynor Folgore - 2012-02-23 16:01

    I think that sky news and the bbc should be aware of an article like this.

  • Ansie - 2012-02-23 16:06

    Daar is dit uit die perd se bek. Ons wou die witmense in Durban slag. Die ANC sit agter al die plaasmoorde. (Dit is wat my verstand vir my se)

      Peter - 2012-02-23 16:25

      Ansie, it is not only your verstand that tells you that the ANC is behind farm murders. I believe the actively encourage it. Well said and Vasbyt.

      trix.duvenage - 2012-02-23 17:16

      Ja Ansie. Ek sal ook maar f***all verder se. Zuma het homself pas ontmasker en dan maak hy ons glo ons is in veilige hande. Maar....sy surpraais kom as Julius gat omswaai en saam met Winni hierdie plek in 'n krater verander [miskien is dit presies wat Z in gedagte het, maar kom ons wag maar ek kyk wat is die volgende skuif nadat malemma uit die ANC prentjie is... ek ruik steeds 'n muishond.... nee wag, nou ruik ek 2

  • Den - 2012-02-23 16:19

    Your youth would have been in for a shock

  • Orapeleng Molosiwa - 2012-02-23 16:21

    Mxm.

  • Bobo - 2012-02-23 16:24

    Yes, you said you wanted to kill White people...Mr President! Wonder how come all you idiot liberals suddenly so quiet ?

  • Tony - 2012-02-23 16:27

    ChAnge a street name ... That will solve the problem???

  • Gerhard - 2012-02-23 16:30

    To Dee, Poliodonkie, TenRas1, Whitty, and the rest of their crew, here is a great story you should go read. It will cheer you up tremendously!!! http://www.sagoodnews.co.za/tourism/voortrekker_monument_becomes_a_heritage_site.html

  • Larry - 2012-02-23 16:32

    A bit difficult for the ANC to discipline the "youth", when there is no discipline in the ANC itself.

  • jody.beggs - 2012-02-23 16:37

    And what about Criminals mr dickhe... errr President? Shouldn't they be punished ? If your in a generally corrupt partnership and your partner is arrested and sentenced , why did you get off without any jail time ? Damn the man.

  • Charmaine - 2012-02-23 16:40

    I have read all the comments below and have given the thumbs up, Sarel, well done, I have done that same being a single parent. Mr. President, I would highly suggest that you read all the emails I have been forwarding to you via your departments. The past is the past,you Anc assume that only you were in the struggle for peace and Unity amongst the Nations here in S.A.Whilst you wanted to kill all the "Whites" you forgot that it was many "Whites" supporting the ANC. Then there are the other nations amongst the Human Race, that supported the ANC. I am one of them. But today, I regret supporting the ANC. You want to know why.. I invite you to a face to face challenge. By the way, it will cost you. Nothing is for mahala. Discipline yes, deal with Julius Malema first, and then those in your government, the adults, then you deal with your youth. Please stop disputing with the people. Read their comments below and reflect on yourself and your family first. A true leader must respect the views of the people as well, after all we all want the same things in life here in S.A. PEACE, we want a zerotolerance country, and thus far we have achieved zero. Building buildings and roads etc. is not enough, Show us how you propose to End the Crimes towards humanity here in S.A. Be blessed. Same God made you and the entire Human Race.

      msendi - 2012-02-23 17:29

      I feel sad to read some of the comments here. I wish that we all experienced the pain of being black in that era. personally, I experienced the cruelty of racism at its best form. I was bitter until I moved to town where I met guys from other races who helped me change my attitude towards other people. Zuma in this case is referring to the past, it doesn't mean that he still want to butcher white people. Lets face the truth…

  • Irene - 2012-02-23 16:44

    Zoooomer should consider himself lucky that he never tried. His 24 children wouldn't be around today.

  • Margie Bruwer - 2012-02-23 16:47

    Bespeur ek 'n ietwat van 'n "dreigement en waarskuwing" van Zuma in hier berig? Spesifiek aan die wit mense? So tussen die lyne lees laat mens nogal baie wys word!

  • George - 2012-02-23 16:49

    Nobody said Africa will be easy................f@rk em........x2....... and there double talk.............

  • alain.d.thomas - 2012-02-23 16:50

    Send them to the same people who disciplined you my Faithful President

  • Freddie - 2012-02-23 16:52

    Yoof at 30 and police cadet at 41... only in SA, and only with anc cadres.

  • George - 2012-02-23 16:54

    We also seem to forget........that our esteemed Madiba said....go kill them go look it up....he gave the instruction at the end of the day......what does that tell you........

      Irene - 2012-02-23 17:02

      Sssssssh George, you mustn't tell the truth about the 'angel'.

      Sally Lewitt - 2012-02-24 04:28

      It tells me this "nothing.. In case you haven't noticed.. The Year is 2012 and then WAS then, now IS now.. You can not repair a broken egg or cry over spilled milk! Madiba realized that violence WAS and IS NOT acceptable or a solution to problem that "can" be solved in a dignified manner! Please, Madiba went through hell, but LOOK what he did after his release.. Ai man.. Stop chasing ghosts.. or ancestors. Look up what" ubuntu" means (hope I spelled that one correctly) NOW that opened my eyes in the NOW.. not THEN! Wake up! Wish he was my real father, hats off to him..

  • brainbowgold - 2012-02-23 17:02

    Zuma, are you referring to our youth or adults?

  • Sariena - 2012-02-23 17:12

    Give then food first so that they can be strong when they get disciplined.What do you say zumzum?

  • SJ - 2012-02-23 17:26

    Thats rich, coming from a man with way to many children and no respect for rule of law..and who asked for his day in court and then covered away behind technicalities.

  • Henchman Monco - 2012-02-23 17:27

    long live zuma long live

      chantalchamaine - 2012-02-23 17:39

      Just evident how less ppl travel of SA, should visit Asian countries & see whats the age of Youth Leagues! Zuma is definately going for 2nd term & those that still cant take it that Malema is finished pls jump! Forward SA forward! Youth League goes up to 70 years in other progressive countries. We should actually push it up to 40 in the ANC,!

  • Collen Masetla - 2012-02-23 17:44

    ''if they don't make mistakes they are not the youths'' Someone please tell this zuma to release and unban our youth league before is too late. A youth leader made a mistake after a comment on Botswana...after that he apologised and now he faces expulsion under zuma leadership and first time in history.

  • Sene - 2012-02-23 18:24

    Zuma actually speaks to malema via this news ... they will drop him and zuma now gives the reasons why. Still stupid reasons, but they prepare the youth what is about to happen to malema

  • Jennifer - 2012-02-23 18:30

    The average age people reach in this country is about 48. 30 is more like winter not spring and certainly not 'Youth' The rebelious, selfish, careless and violent 'youth' are destroying themselves, their wicked behavior is backfiring and will hit anyone involved with them. If you are 30 and not learning from mistakes you are doomed to repeat them and be destroyed by them. STOP MAKING EXCUSES Stop voting ANC

  • John - 2012-02-23 18:31

    "We are going to butcher them... And the leaders will come and lead the revolution" Aaaaaa...Umshini Wami.......yaaaahhh. Umshini Wami. To all American viewers, we had another sunny day in South Africa. Irregularities was not reported.

  • Ntuthuko - 2012-02-23 19:00

    I disagree Mr Prez, I support the party fully but I do not condone millitant behaviour. The youth is indeed fustrated but need to practise constructive critism. for instance in other parts of SA Minies are perceived as ignorant do not care about the well being of the society. I might be deviating, from where I perceive this. We are having another time bomb brewing that is "China colonisation". Tell us do how to raise this and avoid being fustrated to a point of being militant??? Reason they bring product and they own people to work then what jobs are they bringing.

  • Maliganpa - 2012-02-23 19:04

    I agree with mr. President that youth should b disciplined. However, I expected the president to be bold and courageous enough to tell us the basis of his statement not to leave us guessing who exactly should be disciplened. In the face of massive unemployment and disparities we do nt want a lead who will transform the country at such a snail pace.both whites and blacks should have an open dialog to adress the inequalities caused by the institutionalized system of segregation otherwise the youth would go on rampage.white people do nt know how it feels to be treated like a foreigner in your own country. The ANC has decided to recognize the constitution which is a mayor obstacle to true liberation of the masses. We need a constitution which is flexible enough to advance the struggles of Mandela and Oliver tambo. Otherwise we will continue to be divided along racial lines which is a recipe for civil war to come. A racial war is terrible in that it targets a person based on his/her skin pigmitation . Black youth grow up to the realities that whites are our masters and always live better life than blacks. Slowly white people will be targeted at the homes . There would be times when the high walls in Sandton would no longer protect them in a country which is has massive inequalities.

      Sally Lewitt - 2012-02-24 03:42

      Frightening reality facing the whole nation of all colours and creeds.. We as humans, despite the colour of our skin did not "ask" to be born the way we are. Why place a stigma on colour when the majority of us just want peace and contentment and live in relative harmony and reach out a helping hand to our fellow human beings.. What is WRONG with society that they cannot stand together and make this country a shining example to other nations and bring with them solutions, rather than problems on how to "run" like a "smooth oiled wheel" The PAST is the PAST.. put it behind you/us. Start pondering and debating and work TOGETHER towards a level platform for South Africa's future.. or has everyone become so self centered that they can not see the sky for all the trees! We have future generation to think of.. What's "in" it for them and WHAT do they have to look forward too.. Mmm..? ALL Her children are crying for guidance, acceptance, a bright future and carry pride in their hearts.. Or am I just a frigging dreamer? From a "pavement special"

  • Maliganpa - 2012-02-23 19:14

    John my brother don't b scared our president has more to be grateful about. Think about those who are still living in the same situation as the president once lived. Those people in Alexander closer to where u live. In those days there will be scared of the apartheid forces but not any more. Imagine what will happen if they decide to descend on Sandton . Are the current police trained enough to control such incidents like the apartheid police? That's why I say to u let's have an open debate about the legacy left behind by apartheid without fear of disinvestments. The true will set you free

  • ryan.hamaty - 2012-02-23 19:43

    hahahah you embarrassing yourself Jacob

  • Margie Bruwer - 2012-02-23 20:02

    Bespeur ek 'n ietwat van 'n "dreigement en waarskuwing" van Zuma in hier berig? Spesifiek aan die wit mense? So tussen die lyne lees laat mens nogal baie wys word!

  • Mboneni - 2012-02-24 08:32

    when the President was faced with corruption charges,rape charges,He used the same ANCYL,to be disrespectful,disruptive,insultive and intimidate all perceived opponents of JZ,he even giggled when insults were hurled at those he disagree with.He came into power through chaos and once theatens even our constitution,He must abdicate before the ANC becomes history

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