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Zille bullying protector, says ANC

2012-05-14 20:53

Johannesburg - Western Cape Premier Helen Zille's threat to take the public protector to court was a bullying tactic, the office of the ANC Chief Whip Mathole Motshekga said on Monday.

"We believe that Zille's threat is nothing short of a political manoeuvre designed to bully the public protector and thereby send a chilling message to chapter 9 institutions that the party is untouchable," it said in a statement.

The protector, Thuli Madonsela, has reportedly found in a draft report that a Western Cape tender awarded to advertising agency TBWA/Hunt Lascaris in 2010 to centralise communications was invalid.

Madonsela's report was leaked to newspapers a week before a deadline for the province's response.

Zille said this prejudiced the province's right to rectify what it described as material legal errors in the draft report before the report was finalised.

"Without casting aspersions on the public protector herself, we believe this premature leak prejudices the administration of justice and compromises our rights," she said.

Zille said repeated attempts to contact Madonsela had failed and so the province had to publicly state its case.

"Should the draft report's material errors in law not be rectified in the final report we will take the findings on review to the high court," said Zille.

The office of the chief whip said: "The legal threat... sets a worrying precedent in that chapter 9 institutions... may in future be forced to spend their budget allocations defending themselves in court against government institutions than on their statutory obligations."

The office said it was "gravely concerned" because this underminded the public's respect, trust, and confidence in state institutions.

Also on Monday, the Western Cape branch of the African National Congress said it was shocked at Zille's "desperate attacks" on Madonsela.

"The ANC is alarmed that premier Zille is in breach of the confidentiality on the interim report, while at the same time it is shocked by her arrogant attitude," provincial secretary Songezo Mjongile said in a statement.

"The ANC calls on Zille to immediately retract and apologise for her irresponsible statements and to observe the set process by the Public Protector to investigate the allegations against her provincial government."

He said Zille's attempts to circumvent and undermine the work of the Public Protector by intimidating and discrediting her was untenable.

Comments
  • Jackie - 2012-05-14 21:00

    "...Should the draft report's material errors in law not be rectified in the final report we will take the findings on review to the high court..." Zille cool down and rather let the investigation continue without intimidation to the public protect. This makes me thinks there is something you are hiding, why not wait for the final report and make your threat then. Now you want to dictates what the finding should be, please chill if you are so innocent. We all know that you have contacts in high courts

      Tsotsi-Baby - 2012-05-14 21:22

      @Jackie amaaaaaaaaaaaandla.My fellow South Africans lets not forget her promise to step down. #Power to the people

      Bokfan - 2012-05-14 21:35

      Eish Jackson you must be drunk again to be writing nonsense like this so early in the evening. Careful how you get home now, one more bust and the anc is without your incredible talents as a bs artist. Want papa wag vir jou.

      Burtfred - 2012-05-14 21:49

      Oh puleeze! Mathole Motshekga is like an old dog that can't lift his leg anymore, so he squats and lets go his load of useless vitriole. In the process he pees on his own legs. What a useless lump of tax-eating lard he is. Having had an Harvard Fullbright scolarship does not necessarily mean you know what the average South African wants from it's political leadership - on the contrary; it usually disconnects the Ivy League grad from the vast impoverished. His "various writings on African Renaissance" also show his blinkered and racist attitude towards the general populace of our country. How is it possible to have a "renaissance" when there has not yet been a naissance? Motshekga, for all your fancy titles and claims to fame - you remain a racist, pissed-off, previously disadvantaged but now advantaged member of the currently-ruling, corrupt collective.

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 22:10

      @Tienie- Corrected you mean to suit DA, things don't work like that my friend. Then what would be the use of investigation if the finding must suit the party which seeks to Destroy Africa

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 22:50

      How anyone can believe that Helen Zille could bully Thuli Madonsela simply shows that they are on something a good deal stronger than alcohol. Not even the ANC with the full weight of National Government seems able to that. Look at reality and stop making a complete idiot of yourself.

      Ronald - 2012-05-14 23:38

      Zille will step down when Jesus comes! Does that sound familiar to the ANC cadres?

      alansmartSnr - 2012-05-15 01:35

      @Jackie.. No offence and I'm certainly not attacking you but there are definate protocols regarding the procedures in question and as sure as God made little apples, if the foot was in the other shoe (ANC) or any Chapter 9 institutions.. they would have been just as upset and certainly reacted the same. We all have the greatest respect and admiration for the bravery and honesty the office of the Public Protector and this action is not an attack on her as person but as result of an unfortunate situation in which she stepped. I think the neccesity to turn to the courts is merely to establish a precedent and not an attack on Thuli Madonsela's integrity. It is the government who are just trying to score polical points.

      Oscar - 2012-05-15 05:21

      Reports in government eg. audit reports, findings reports etc. are always presented to the affected party in a draft format to comment before the final report is issued for formal comments. This is done mainly because the auditors or investigators do not always understand the environment or facts on which they base their findings. If the affected parties do not correct the misunderstandings during the draft phase of the report, the auditors or in this case Madonsela will look like a fool when the final response on the final report is published. But I assume the ANC government doesn't understand its own work procedures in government.

      Koos - 2012-05-15 06:03

      Seems that an ancESTOR infiltrated Madonsela's office and leak this report to the media to try and gain some ground on the DA.

      rrakoma - 2012-05-15 07:50

      @jackie lol Destroy Africa! I was driving through Tembisa and I saw one of their posters next to an izinyoka (the cable thiefs) sign, it read DAnger (as the black man dared to touch but got electricuted) lmao.

      tshifhiwa.vandermunalisi - 2012-05-15 08:59

      The public protector is a darling when she rules against the ANC, but when she rules against the DA she is threatened with court action. In other words, the public protector should "know her place" and not touch the baas and the madam. How typical...

  • Smili - 2012-05-14 21:02

    "Without casting aspersions on the public protector herself, we believe this premature leak prejudices the administration of justice and compromises our rights," she said. Zille said repeated attempts to contact Madonsela had failed and so the province had to publicly state its case. "Should the draft report's material errors in law not be rectified in the final report we will take the findings on review to the high court," said Zille. Agreed, if they do indeed report suggests the DA do something that will harm the people of SA... Then the report should be "challenged". I LOLOLOLOL AT ANC PROPAGANDA! Your attempts to cause strife between the public prosecuter and the DA is not working! It's cheap and dirty... People can see straight through it. Another sad ploy from the ANC leadership to try discredit the Democratic Alliance!

      Smili - 2012-05-14 21:26

      Whats with ALL the thumbs down on my comments? Has news suddenly been swamped by ANC trolls or something? WTF is happening :( SMILI BECOME FROWNI

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 22:56

      Sematla, you forgot about the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, Father Christmas and the leprechauns from Ireland. Sematla vampires are the figment of the vivid imagination of European writer, they were just stories. You must learn to tell fact from fiction. The only thing garlic drives away is intimacy.

      Ronald - 2012-05-14 23:35

      The number of thumbs down is just an accurate indication that your post reflects a well thought out comment.

      Dee - 2012-05-15 02:02

      What I find interesting is no reporting on this site about what Madonsela had to say about the matter today. ...to the effect 'no corruption ... not yet a report ..... leaked by a member who reported the matter ....etc". So makes me wonder exactly what this trashy site's agenda is? It's apparently here to mainly attract non-analytical thinkers / headline reactionary's and incite racial hatred?

  • Piet - 2012-05-14 21:03

    THEY ARE RUNNING SCARED... GO HELEN....

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 21:17

      Scare Tactics?

  • Eye's Que - 2012-05-14 21:08

    Rubbish, rubbish, rubbish........scared cats swipe out at that that threatens them!!!

      Eye's Que - 2012-05-14 21:16

      We are proud of you Ms Zille, keep at them, ware them down! Yah for the D.A.

      Junebugg - 2012-05-15 09:40

      ANC Should shut the F up and concentrate on service delivery ..If Sheryl Cwele is still not fired, Mdluli not fired, Zuma not fired , Beki cele just suspended and many more..well they should stay off Zille as well.

  • Tsotsi-Baby - 2012-05-14 21:15

    Zille just step down already and live up to your promise.Why all these excuses? #Power to the people

      Alison - 2012-05-14 21:37

      Tsotsi, you must please try hard to concentrate on what is happening here. There has been no report from the Public Prosecutor. None whatsoever. You are repeatedly making the same ignorant calls for her resignation, all based on thin air. Once the public prosecutor publishes her report, both the DA and the PP will come up smelling of roses. If you like I will spend some time with you to educate you a little bit. Please let me help you. PS. Laskaris is a reputable company with a proven track record.

      Smili - 2012-05-14 21:51

      Tsotsi ? You are lame! PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE TROLLS! THEY THRIVE ON TENDERS, TAX and ATTENTION!

      sglaister - 2012-05-14 21:55

      What a narrow minded little person you are! Yes Zille step down, so they can ruin the western cape the way they have ruined the rest of South Africa. Clearly u live for the moment and lack ambition and foresight for the generations to come. Catch a wake up!

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-05-14 22:18

      Alison,I like positive people, but you are excessively so! I agree with the éducate you a little bit' part, but thinking you will need just 'some time'to achieve that is really understating it! Admit, you will need much more than that!

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 22:59

      Tsosti-baby why not let a court decide if the Public Protector is correct, and then make judgement? Perhaps its because you are a baby-tsotsi that you rush to judgement without the facts.

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 23:02

      Alison you have a point, but just remember you cannot teach those who have no desire to learn. Most of the people commenting on this forum dont even read what is written before displaying their ignorance.

  • michael.rampatla - 2012-05-14 21:15

    the party that represent the white minority capitalists is @ the wrong side of the law

      Alison - 2012-05-14 21:47

      Idiot. Grow up little boy. That is a typical anger statement. I ask you, I plead with you, to please formulate your opinions based on contemplation and forethought, not reactive blabber. Recently, my nephew was punished for breaking a TV while playing ball in the house. After the punishment was handed down, he was sulking. When I offered him ice cream, he said: "No, I hate ice cream." He knows the ice cream is good, but he wants to be argumentative because of his state of mind. My point is, you must know the DA is good, but you are still so angry about the past. Or maybe you are just as stupid as you sound. I hope this little story helps you learn the difference between common sense and emotion.

      Smili - 2012-05-14 21:52

      The DA represent every South African! You are just a MORON!

      Bob - 2012-05-14 21:54

      “white minority capitalists” You referring I assume, to the few people that get the work done, that pay the most taxes, that keep the wheels of industry going, all of which happens to keep this country fiscally alive?

      Stephan - 2012-05-14 22:02

      I agree that whites are also corrupt, the only problem is that all corrupt whites are members of the anc.

      Stephan - 2012-05-14 22:09

      White minority capitalists??? You funny little clown, you have the former leader of the National Party in the anc - kortbroek van schalkwyk. That is where they are hiding, in the anc. The DA fought against the NP and apartheid now your pathetic anc is home to even the leader of the NP?? Explain that funny guy

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 23:05

      And you know this because you have seen all the evidence and have years of experience in judging matters such as this. Try doing some reading (not comic books) before making a fool of yourself.

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 23:06

      Not quite Stephan some of them retired from politics with the demise of the National Party, and some of them have passed on.

      Ronald - 2012-05-14 23:48

      "the party that represent the white minority capitalists" Not quite right, old chap. The numbers generated by Stats SA and your government indicates that more that 50% of the votes cast in favour of the DA in the 2011 municipal election was cast by ethnic groups other than whites. The leaked report also does not indicate whether criminal charges should be brought. At least the voter stats indicates that the DA stands for all ethnic groups, unlike the bobbing and weaving ANC. The alleged transgressions, when made by the DA, are so few and far between that the ANC has to pounce on it like a karoo bossie on a peepatch during a drought.

  • Gordon - 2012-05-14 21:16

    That is the longest response the ANC has ever given to a PP report. Funny that.

  • tobydt - 2012-05-14 21:17

    The ANC is sh1tting bricks.

  • ettienne.hattingh - 2012-05-14 21:18

    Who the he!! does the ANC think they are. if you watched Carte Blance last night you would know that SA is in a big load of crap. municipalities run by the ANC paying public servants in excess of a million rand being advisors, yet services delivery is non existing, roads with pot holes the size of craters, Rcrap drinking water, roads filled with rubbish, crime etc etc etc. I work hard for the tax money I pay. Yet I see nothing happening then the dear old government enriching themselves. The ANC is now quick to point fingers to take the heat of themselves. The DA has my utmost support. This country will remain in dire straits until the DA becomes the ruling party. I just hope the majority will wake up and realize that.

      michael.rampatla - 2012-05-14 21:30

      u can wait until your grand daughter's hair turn grey!!! Viva Dis - Agree (DA)

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 21:38

      Me thinks you did not even read the article. I also pay tax probably higher than you and I work smart instead

      Smili - 2012-05-14 21:48

      @Jakie "You thinks" what? not very much it seems! And you "work smart?" Obviously not very well indeed!

      ettienne.hattingh - 2012-05-14 21:51

      Jackie. Whatever floats your boat. Can't really give a crap what you or your corrupt buddies say. DA all the way.

      Dean - 2012-05-14 22:30

      Soon and hopefully very soon we see the DA slip on its own white tiles or have the Red carpet of conceit and arrogance, pulled out under there \feet\ by one of there own

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 23:13

      Ettienne you should live in one of the municipalities that were highlighted on carte Blanche such as I do. The turn around in services has been noticable since the voters evicted the ANC from municiple government. Michael dont be too sure, it only took the voters 22 years to rumble to Mugabe in Zimbabwe, and he has only retained power with the help of Thabo Mbeki, Who is going to help the ANC? Jackie all you are missing is the ability to write english so clearly you are not working in anything that requires good communication skills.

  • Piet - 2012-05-14 21:21

    Ag please ANC! Go and bark to youre supporters. As always at the end of the day it will be proved that you lied again. This is a democracy and if you feel that you where done in then sue. We know why you never threaten anybody with the courts, because you lie!

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 21:29

      @Piet what is so difficult about waiting for the final report instead prematurely making threats

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-05-14 22:29

      @Jackie, what is so difficult to wait for the final report before releasing it? What is so difficult to acccept the attempts of the DA to contact you? How much damage must you allow a premature report to create before you re-act? Ask yourself these questions and then decide whether you still advise to wait for the final report.

  • Andricca - 2012-05-14 21:23

    Zille waphapha, I also think she fantasize a lot her real self & what that could do to change things around

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 23:15

      And what does this comment actually mean? It should also be against the law to write rubbish whilst under the influence of alcohol or other mind altering sustances.

  • Stephan - 2012-05-14 21:27

    Surely if the PP wins the case she gets a cost order in her favour? Can't these anc clowns come up with something better? I believe every person has a right to use the system of checks and balances available. Go Zille, just PLEASE stop your silly dancing to get black votes, it doesn't work

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 23:16

      Dont be racist!

  • Ivan Overton - 2012-05-14 21:30

    Wow. Let's allow the jury to be out on Madonsela's findings in this regard - the DA is not beyond the law and quite capable of defending itself, so let the process run its course. But, let's pause a bit to consider what was said: The ANC feels that it is wrong to send discouraging messages to watchdog organisations (and everyone else) that dares speak out, that it is wrong to proclaim that "the party is untouchable". Really? Did they REALLY say that, given their own shameful track record in this regard over recent years. How arrogant, and how poorly they judge the people of South Africa, to think that they will get away with such statements in the long run. How far the once remarkable (but never perfect - none ever are) organisation has fallen.

  • Hilda - 2012-05-14 21:34

    Zille should bully the ANC for their poor or lack of governance

  • Muhammed - 2012-05-14 21:38

    What is the intention of such 'news' reporting?

  • Bokfan - 2012-05-14 21:45

    Bwahahaha The stalinist oppressor is running scared after having its lies publicly revealed AGAIN. There was no corruption, there was no dishonesty, there was no crimional behaviour. Sorry for your desperate and pathetic efforts. They have come to nothing. Maatla ke a DA

  • bryan.culross - 2012-05-14 21:47

    I suggest people read Helen response on the DA website before jumping to conclusions. I point out that it wud be necessary for the findings to be reviewed because according to the preliminary report the contract is invalid ...in light thereof the Western Cape gov must choose to cancel the contract (ab initio?) or enforce it ... in order to obtain clarity on the correct course of action the high court review is necessary and this being more especially because SC has advised Helen that the contract is not in anyay invalid while I am a gr8 supporter of Modensela lets remember she is less than perfect - it was only a few months ago that her son crashed her government vehicle which he was not authorised to use. furthermore, this serious leak of a preliminary report as well as Madonsela apparent refusal to take Helen's fone calls do not reflect well on Madonsela.

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 22:01

      @bryan can you explain why she was suppose to answer to Hellen, Hellen must just wait for the final report.

      bryan.culross - 2012-05-14 22:13

      i believe its obvious of why she shud respond to Helen ... to deal with the fact that the report was leaked that is the issue .... sadly ppl tend to act like cannibal here rather than looking at each aspect soberly and in context ... by way of eg ... there wud be no need for a high court review in the prelim report merely took issue with maladministration but it ppears to hav gone further and labeled the contract as invalid ... if Helen does not think its invalid but goes ahead and cancels it it could create seriously problems if the ad agency decides to enforce the contract thru the courts ...

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 23:21

      Jackie there is a principle in South African law which comes down from the latin "audi alteram partem". Transalted roughly that means let the otherside be heard. So before finalising her report she is legally obliged to let the other side be heard. You claim to work smart but you sure aren't smart.

      rrakoma - 2012-05-15 07:30

      clearly the DA is innocent until proven guilty .the cANCer on the other hand is guilty until a court proves them innocent... But theyre all liars right!\r\nthe day I hear someone say read the ANC website, 'Zuma said that the charges againsts...' i will eat my hat.\r\nThe minority opinion is always guilty right, and he lied to those retard cANCer voters. Pathetic! The whole lot of yous! @Kevin now Thuli has personal flaws that cloud her proffessional judgement, wow.

  • alfred.willie - 2012-05-14 21:47

    Eish, to me, the anc and the public protector supposed to ignore any threats madam democrats is trying to use in order to find favorable decision.\r\nThe anc according to my belief, supposed not to ask madam democrats to apologize at all, let her burnt out without fire. \r\nI understand she was unable to sleep, trying to contact our public protector, becoz they must \r\nJoin her and fight the anc and hide all her suspicion and bullying the black people becoz they blacks cannot rule whites.\r\nFrom tata umandela to zuma zille is not convinced that blacks can lead them.\r\nMy small advice, why she doesn't pack and go. Becoz south africa will be led by any body who get the majority irrigardless of colour, sex or creed.\r\nWe have the white people in our organisations but they belong here, as a result they are no longer white but black.\r\nNice song for zille, is go before we push you to go where you belong. However, you know exactly where you come from

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 23:28

      Racist idiot, what did you do to advance the struggle to end apartheid? I doubt your contribution was on the same level as Helen Zille's contribution. How many times did you get beaten by the police and locked up in the fight against apartheid, not as many times as I did. I didn't fight to get rid of apartheid, so a bunch of corrupt dimwits can turn South Africa into an inept kleptocracy. Zille is as South African as anyone in this country and a good deal less racist than you.

      Saleé - 2012-05-15 00:12

      Alfred, you need to go to bed. Please wake up only when Jupiter completes its next orbit :-)

  • zandisile.sitoyi - 2012-05-14 21:50

    Hehehe Madam Zille wants to run 100 metres to the court now. Its ur turn to dance for Thuli's music then dance dont run we want to know madam ( zero corruption, good governance.hehehe hayi sanundihlekisa I vili liya jika jika bathathe Thuli ngabakho

  • ziphok1 - 2012-05-14 21:52

    If Zille is acting like this where are we going to run to. Not so long ago they believe everything from public protector. But now that the tables are turn they want to run to court. I only expect this from ANC not DA.

      Francois - 2012-05-14 22:12

      Eish but we want to be stupid!!! Helen is simply challenging the report because due process has not been followed. As I read it, the process is that the responding (or "accused" if you wish) party has to have an opportunity to petition the PP PRIOR to the release of the report. However, this report was LEAKED prior to completion of the process - which in itself smacks of underhanded dealings by someone in the PP office. Go read the full responses, dimwits!!!!

      dave.prinsloo - 2012-05-14 22:17

      oh my god, grow at least a brain stem before you display your complete ignorance in public.

      Saleé - 2012-05-14 22:35

      @Franscois - that's not true. The Cele (and I hear, Shiceka) reports were also leaked. Zille threatens to go to court if some of the adverse findings contained in the draft report are not changed. She calls the adverse findings "material errors in law". If the adverse findings are changed to her liking and satisfaction, she will not go to court.

      ettienne.hattingh - 2012-05-14 22:45

      Bloody he!!. Wait for the FINAL report. You dumb a$$es.

      Smili - 2012-05-14 22:46

      ziphok1 :) ZILLE has not done anything wrong. The ANC have just lied to make it seem like she has! They lie about everything!

      Saleé - 2012-05-14 23:13

      Hey @Ettiene, aren't you the measure of intelligence right now? If you do not wish to debate, do not play in a forum. You can happily wait for the final report in your kennel. The fact that we must wait for the final report is a foregone conclusion. How intelligent you must be to feel you have to point it out. What is being debated here is a far more complex issue - Hellen Zille's response to the leaked document. You needn't respond.

  • Dave - 2012-05-14 21:55

    It takes one to know one.

  • Sematla - 2012-05-14 22:00

    The ombudsman has a huge degree of independence,she might be appointed by the president but her responsibility is to protect you and your assets. We have seen how many times she took corruption to task,whether it is from the ANC or from the DA. Moer hulle ombudsman-woman.

  • Robinson - 2012-05-14 22:03

    white ppl dnt lyk us...its a fact...most always want black ppl 2 b investigated...now its zille's turn...dey r defending her...surely if ther's nothing wrong bout dat tender den y da noise?...

      dave.prinsloo - 2012-05-14 22:14

      eish, your spelling is as terrible as your brain's functioning

      Robinson - 2012-05-14 22:25

      lol thanx mate...mayb if I waz wyt U wudnt make such racist undermining comments....m black shoot me....nd m gon text in my own way..like it or jump...

      Yamkela - 2012-05-14 22:33

      Dnt wory bwt him he duzn't knw da current s.a styl of wrting mayb he is 4rm england o britain wu knwz

  • Brett - 2012-05-14 22:12

    I can't believe some of the comments posted bt ANC sheep. They really have no understanding of the situation at all. Obviously a bit too complex for them.

      bryan.culross - 2012-05-14 22:20

      i agree completely Brett ... bunch of idiots ...quite honestly in the overall scheme of things this is much ado about nothing .. R7m spent so far .. i think Zuma's legal bills were R100m

      Saleé - 2012-05-14 22:46

      @Bryan, corruption sets it one slip-up; and one Rand at a time. Love your democracy. Do not close your eyes to wrong-doing. Let us wait to see if the PP confirms the draft findings as contained in the leaked report. If she does, that will not be a trivial issue. Zille is certainly within her rights to go to court, but it already looks messy - and if she does not get an order in her favour, it will be a total disaster.

      bryan.culross - 2012-05-14 22:58

      What is the wrongdoing Salee - once again read what Helen has said ... the issue revolves around interpretation of the law ... it has NOTHING to do with corruption so why you even making a comment in that regard

      Saleé - 2012-05-14 23:52

      I am not talking about the accuracy of the contents of the report, Bryan. I am talking about your suggestion that dealing with a possible maladministration issue is much ado about nothing. That can't be right. If wrong-doing happened to be ultimately confirmed (I pray it doesn't), that will be a big deal. To answer your question re: corruption - I have made the comment before. Maladministration indicates failure or neglect to adhere to good process. Good process; and not the goodness of men, is the most surefire way to keep corruption away. Therefore, I repeat, corruption sets in one slip-up at a time. The draft report indicates maladministration. Let us hope this finding is not confirmed because if it is, we have reason to worry.

      Saleé - 2012-05-14 23:55

      @Bryan - Regarding your comment that the issue relates to the interpretation of the law- don't all issues relate to the interpretation of the law? Pick an issue. I will pick a statute or a legal principle that deals with it.

  • Bheki Nas - 2012-05-14 22:20

    Shake the unshakable Thuli..Zille b a man..you know u aint doing any corruption in da W.Cape..plz dnt cry madam..

      Gladstone - 2012-05-14 22:50

      And Zille do Bheki and others a favour, don't take Thuli to court. Let the public protector investigate.

  • Crracker - 2012-05-14 22:24

    Surely the Public Protector is not so weak that someone's intended expression to take her to court is tantamount to bullying. Is she so scared that one has to think it is bullying? Surely so far she has not shown any sign to make us think that she will be scared by the intention to take her to court. She certainly has nothing personal to loose if she is taken to court. To think that the DA will try to influence her or any of her staff with so-called threats to take her to court is plain silliness and another indication of the lengths the ANC and their propaganda machine are prepared to go. IT IS NOT SO-CALLED BULLYING! Nice try, ANC. Once more the ANC fails big time.

  • Dave - 2012-05-14 22:34

    To me it seems as if cANCer has sent out a message for their supporters to score points against DA. I have never seen so many pro cANCer comments in the years I have participated in this forum. cANCer MUST BE AFFRAID. Be VERY AFFRAID, THE POPULACE IS AWAKENNING

  • Kevin - 2012-05-14 22:47

    It appears that all the commentators on this forum forget that SA is a constitutional democracy. Let courts decide! Ms Madonsela says one thing Ms Zille says another, let the Courts decide. What is wrong is that the report was leaked by someone in Ms madonsela's office in an attempt to embarass Helen Zille. If on the other hand the Courts hold for Helen Zille then Thuli Madonsela will have no option but to resign. That would be a pity as she is doing a good job. In fact that would suit the ANC as she is after their all their corrupt tender awards.

  • Mantsho - 2012-05-14 23:06

    When Hellen open her mouth and speak, ANC men get so confused, why this men are so scared of this lady like this. Helen should be so proud of herself really.

      neo.khemisi - 2012-05-15 07:11

      O bua ma***pa

  • Erna - 2012-05-14 23:14

    Come on guys, the ANC stooges can't contain their excitement. Finally something that the DA may have done wrong. Give them their 5 minutes of delight. They forget, however, that the ANC is leading the race when it comes to mismanagement and corruption. Wouldn't it be ironic if Zille was right and the PP wrong?

  • Elijah - 2012-05-15 00:39

    Zille is showing her true colors, the dictator mentality of wanting to be above the law. Zuma with all his flaws accepts the public prosecuter's findings.

  • Nockx - 2012-05-15 02:06

    Chill ANC it's just court, when she was busy probing your corruption she got death threats. Tell me how is that better than court? You people spends lot of time focusing on DA n less time on ANC. We must have less of these embarrassing moments. Geeeeeeezz

  • Douglas Theron - 2012-05-15 06:02

    Has anyone actually read the report or the response... The issue is that 2 of her close advisers sat on the adjudication committee. Therefore it is assumed that there was a conflict of interest. That is understandable. Whether or not they had an influence on the decision is debatable, DA should just accept its mistake and take the outcome with dignity. What is amazing is that every time that there is a political issue all the closet racists find a way to make it a racial issue and that is very sad...

  • Carry - 2012-05-15 06:28

    MOTSHEKGA SHOULD BE ON RETIREMENT - ALL THE anc KEEP DOING IS TRYING TO PUT OUT ALL THE FIRES AROUND THEM. THE FRAUD, LIES AND BAD GOVERNANCE WILL COME OUT.

  • christian.helberg - 2012-05-15 06:50

    The DA has a right to challenge in court, besides there was no corruption found, unlike the ALL anc dealings. Helen also did not attack Madonsela personally but rather the handling of the situation.

  • christian.helberg - 2012-05-15 07:47

    shame, this must have been a slap in the face for the anc. “That is the right attitude. If you are not happy with my decision, in terms of Section 181 (3), the best place to seek a second opinion is a court of law.” said Madonsela concerning Helen Zille taking the issue to court. YET AGAIN PROVING THAT IT IS THE DA"s RIGHT TO TAKE IT TO COURT.

  • Lebogang - 2012-05-15 08:05

    Steve Biko once eluded to the fact that the one thing that inspired apartheid was to have the Whites believing they are the superior race, the blacks believing they are inferior and coloureds somewhere in between depending on the hair texture and eye colour. In this regard they have achieved their objective. However none is necessarily better than the other as they all have a warped perception of reality. Madam Zille has a bad case of superiority complex, and its not doing the DA any justice.

  • johleneh - 2012-05-15 08:12

    Has anyone seen the article http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/R200m-fraud-at-E-Cape-health-department-20120515 of this morning regarding R200m corruption and fraud in the EC Health Department??? Before we point out the sins of the other person we should first remove the log from our own... How can the ANC be judging & pointing fingers when their own records for fraud, corruption, tenderpreneurship, et etc (i can go on for days) is horrifly atrocious? Why are people not getting fed up with this government? Surely you can see they DO NOT CARE!

  • Gcwabe.KaMavovo - 2012-05-15 08:13

    As much as this reeks of opportunism on the part of the ANC, you can't help but feel that they may have a point. Zille is dictating what the findings should be in the final report, and if they are not her way them she's threatening to sue. Isn't that putting unnecessary pressure on the public protector?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-05-15 08:28

      No it isn't. If the report had not been leaked Zille and the PP would have met and discussed the findings. Zille would still be able to disagree on certain points and the matter would be more amicably resolved. However the report was leaked and the vultures swooped onto Zille from every angle, she had to put on a brave front to stop the ignorant from making so much noise.

      Gcwabe.KaMavovo - 2012-05-15 09:07

      "Should the draft report's material errors in law not be rectified in the final report we will take the findings on review to the high court," - Zille She has already decided that there are "material errors in law" and is threatening court action if these are left as they are in the final report. She's not putting on a brave face. She is telling the PP what she should have in her final report, otherwise she'll sue. The leak complicated things, but Zille should've said "I will not comment until the final report is out".

  • Rob - 2012-05-15 08:55

    The anc has reduced its rhetoric to a level well below that used by the daily tv soapies, even the locally produced ones. Nothing can be taken seriously, but the loss is real and dangerous. So read the edicts we must, but extracting the truth/facts is beyond me and I suspect beyond most.

  • Jane - 2012-05-15 09:44

    Lol, what is this "power to the people" which the ANC sheep are always talking about on NEWS 24? What people? The people living in shacks, the people who trek miles in the scorching heat and freezing rain to get to school, because there is no school close to where they live, or is it the hungry unemployed beggars on every street corner. And who will provide you with this "power" your beloved Malema, who owes SARS R15 million or your wonderful Jacob Zuma, who cares more about setting a world record as the village idiot with the most wives. Or wait, is it those corrupt, money grabbing officials elected to the ANC who drive Mercedes and go oversees for every invite they can solicit. Do you really think they will ever share any of their "power" or wealth with you? WAKE UP, they have been ruling this country since 1994 and your people still live in shacks and beg at our doors for food. HELEN ZILLE FOR PRESIDENT!

  • Antwahn - 2012-05-15 09:56

    Hahaa If EVER the pot called the kettle black... See what these bleeding ANC hypocrites did. Or should we forget about SAPS raiding Thuli Madonsela's offices on false pretexts?

  • Charnelle - 2012-06-01 15:53

    ooooh being bullied? BWAHAHAHAHAH. Big bad nasty Helen, shame on you! Please. Can she not stand her own ground? No she needs big daddy ANC to stand up for her. Please man.

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