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Zille laughs off naked pic

2012-05-23 10:11

Johannesburg - DA leader Helen Zille has laughed off a photoshopped picture of her posing naked and published on Facebook, The Star reported on Wednesday.

The picture, of an obviously elderly body, has Zille's head and a Democratic Alliance logo covering her private parts.

Zille told the newspaper: "Now you can see why I try to cycle vigorously for an hour every day. I obviously need more than Botox."

A person with the Facebook name William ANCYL posted the picture and has refused demands to take it down.

He said the picture was revenge for Brett Murray's painting The Spear, which depicts President Jacob Zuma with his genitals showing.

The painting of Zuma has outraged many South Africans who feel it is an insult to Zuma's office, and culturally offensive for an elderly person to be so depicted.

Comments
  • Sandra - 2012-05-23 10:16

    where is the picture news 24 where is it

      kabelo.leballo - 2012-05-23 10:21

      i saw the picture. thats definitely not her private part, its too dark. lol

      Freddie - 2012-05-23 10:22

      Do you really want to see a naked granny? Eeeuuuww, pervert. At least 'the spear' was only a painting, not a photo.

      Rudi - 2012-05-23 10:22

      Classic! Classic, classic, classic!! Let's call it 'The Shield'! Anyway, would like to see it though. Where is it? Way to go Zille! You did what JZ should have done in the first place!

      Azande - 2012-05-23 10:25

      http://localislekker.tv/2012/05/22/the-gallery-displays-helen-zille-nude/

      Curry - 2012-05-23 10:31

      Now this is the way to handle it! Well played godzilla! Take the serious things seriously and yourself less so!

      Azande - 2012-05-23 10:36

      @pythagoras, we do not take things the same way. Zille is White and Zuma is black. That on its own tells you there is significant disparity in how they see things. I'm not racialising this thing but to be frank, race has a lot to do with your background from which your mindset is formed.

      Msika - 2012-05-23 10:42

      LOL! Should have been more creative by adding a group of naked men sorrounding her, all trying to remove the DA logo, now that would have been art.

      Werner - 2012-05-23 10:45

      No Azande, you always like to play the victim, that is the actual problem

      deabreu - 2012-05-23 10:48

      http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jacob_Zuma As stated, I was about to type a comment and googled "Zuma is a P" looking for the word that means Zuma "loves to fornocate with many woman, in and out of wedlock", and first Google suggestion was a surprise...

      ulvenkai - 2012-05-23 10:54

      Azande, you're confusing race with culture. Race has no bearing on a person's interests, hobbies, education, psyche, attitude, personality or anything that plays a large role in who we are. Race is a very small part of who we are. It's for this reason that you will find extremists in all races such as right-wing racist Afrikaners, Zulus, rednecks, etc. People who obsess about skin colour are pathetic, short-sighted inbred morons. The moment someone talks about "race" I switch off, because then I know that they are precisely as racist as they accuse others of, because race is all they see.

      ivan.frantz.3 - 2012-05-23 11:01

      Everybody knows that the body in the picture does not belong to Helen Zille. It has been photoshopped. The more fuss we make , the more the opposition will rejoice ! So lets not get hot under the collar about this !

      rbphiri - 2012-05-23 11:11

      Apparently Murray's twin can also photoshop,we have seen the president's overly exaggerated machine; in terms of size, now to see Helen Zille naked, is this a sequel to a political blue movie? Next think instead of a purple barney the dinosaur suit will see juliarse in a purple speedo.

      Ed - 2012-05-23 11:12

      me thinks that 'williamancyl' is actually Hellen GodzilleDA... she had to get-in on the action:)

      Azande - 2012-05-23 11:14

      @ulvenkai, unfortunately in SA you cant just ignore race because it was the key consideration which has actually put us where we are now. Ignoring it is just being unrealistic. You cannot separate race and culture in SA especially in the black communities even if we are different tribes. Previous racial discrimination forced blacks to have a common goal which in turn forced different tribes and cultures to unite irrespective of their tribal differences. In essence, the culture which cut across all black tribes was formed and “ubuntu” was formed, blacks in general knew that respect for elders is key hence there was a general outcry about the JZ painting in the black society. We viewed it disrespectful and improper. So, we cannot ignore some facts of races especially if we want to understand and address issues. I do not understand why people panic when you mention “race”, we have different races so there is nothing wrong with mentioning it. As long as you maintain objectivity and respect, it shouldn’t be a problem.

      Bradley - 2012-05-23 11:15

      @Azande..who's serious?? you're serious.

      Janice - 2012-05-23 11:36

      Oh Helen, you are truly a superstar, such a lady, thats the spirit!!! GO HELEN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!

      Johannvw13 - 2012-05-23 11:37

      they cant even run a country and now they are trying to use photoshop... FAIL

      justindeklerk - 2012-05-23 11:38

      Well done to the chop who posted that photo! You have made your president look even more of a fool, thanks to the way Zille handled the situation, which was with a sense of humour. Through all his faults I used to belive old Zuma had a sense of humor too, clearly I was mistaken. The ANC and it's supporters haver handled the whole situation like a bunch of sorry kids who've lost their toys! Grow up FFS!

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-23 11:41

      Ja Azande, like the way some people just blindly follow and respect someone, who hasn't done anything to deserve respect. I know it's in African culture to respect leaders without question, but that cannot work in this day and age. Especially when leaders don't actually lead, are corrupt, sing hateful songs etc... A person garners respect when he/she has done something worthy of respect, or holds themselves with integrity.

      Wilhelm - 2012-05-23 11:45

      I agree Ulvenkai. Race issues is only keeping our country back. Poeple still have the mindset of pre-appartheid era and don't want to move on.

      Omo - 2012-05-23 11:45

      You South Africans are really sick.Is this what you condone in your country????? I find the helen Zille picture to be super gross.If showing that kind of picture is part of western culture then western culture is sick.I know helen zille is playing politics by laughing off the picture but she actually wrong for tolerating such.Helen Zille is a mother to someone and a wife and anyone who has the guts to display such a picture of her needs to face the law. You people are letting your hatred of Zuma cloud your sense of morality.In my country if you do something like this to an elder ,you will go to jail.This is not freedom of expression but an insult to an elderly woman.I am not a zille fan,never was never will be but my parents taught me to respect my elders whether i agree with them or not.This picture and zuma's is an assault on the dignity of both invidiauals and no matter our political affliations ,we must condemn both. This country has the highest rate of women abuse in the waorld and we are busy laughing at a naked picture of helen zille and zuma????? SA is definately going down the drain if this what you people consider to be funny.Do you know how many children will see this pictures?Are we telling our kids that it is okay to post nude pictures of our elders????Think people THINK!

      Lorain - 2012-05-23 12:01

      @ Omo Well said my brother

      Mark - 2012-05-23 12:22

      go to: http://news.howzit.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=250062664

      Martin - 2012-05-23 12:23

      jiiiiiisssissssssss she's hotter than i thought hahah

      philip.venter1 - 2012-05-23 12:45

      Yeah it's disrespectful to make naked paintings of elders but it's not disrespectful to have multiple wives and make it public that you have sex with several different people constantly while you are married. Do you see the problem with that logic "African culture"?

      blipsie - 2012-05-23 12:47

      Would love to know who the original model is. Whoop whoop, you go gran! :-D

      Omo - 2012-05-23 13:26

      @Philip.venter1 Your argument is flawed,polygamy is practised everywhere in the world not just Africa .Name one country where polygamus marriages/relationships do not occur? Just one? Name one country in the western world where husbands don't cheat on their wives? There is program on Tv called "californication" which depicts the lifestyle of some westerners.Don't you watch tv ,listen to news or watch documentaries? Have you never heard of the term "swingers" ,you should google it.It is a very immoral act invented and practiced by westerners.You frown against polygamy but support homosexuals(something that is not natural) and you want to claim a high moral ground.Dude please save it! No culture can claim a higher moral ground than another.Each culture has its inherent flaws but no one is superior to other. Intentionally displaying nude pictures of your elders is wrong and yes we Africans believe it is wrong.It is a taboo in our culture,you can find better ways of experessing your dislike of a person without being vulgar or obscene. There is right and there is wrong.If you can not differientiate between the two then i can't help you.

      melania.nel - 2012-05-23 14:10

      Azande, please comment on the paintings by Ayanda Mabula and please explain why that's not racist? To all the people who feel offended with the 'spear', please tel us to how many controversial art shows you have been too,created by BLACK artists. After only then, can you fairly judge on one satirical artist. Art doesn't have to be good to be art.

      Loo - 2012-05-23 14:15

      @Omonaija .. your blabbering BS dude. First of all ,, a PRESIDENT of a countries morals are supposed to be above reproach ,, yes even in your country (wherever that might be). So being promiscuous, and cheating on your 6 wives , yes he has six wives and a couple of additional casual sex partners. NOW being the president of a country where aids and unwanted pregnancy is rife.. should the PRESIDENT not be the first NOT to have casual unprotected sex and NOT cause unplanned pregnancies... HE DID BOTH of that dude. Live by the spear , die by the spear.. all I can say

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-05-23 14:22

      @Omo, what you are in fact saying is that just because polygamy and extra marital relationships happen throughout the western world, it is condoned. Just because people do it, does not make it acceptable or legal. Last I heard, adultery was illegal!

      reneen.dutoit - 2012-05-23 14:32

      http://www.volksblad.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Lyk-my-ek-benodig-meer-as-Botox-Zille-20120523-2

      Omo - 2012-05-23 14:46

      @Loo..Try to calm down ,read and comprehend.Nowhere did i vouch for Zuma's behavior.My response is to Philip.venter1's "logical" attack on the African culture.He tried to insinuate that what Zuma's is doing is unique to Africans.I rightly re-educated and made him realize that Zuma's action is human not African. Exposing nude pictures on the internet of elders may be Ok in Europe ,America or Australia but it is a TABOO in Africa.Do you comprehend that ? I hope so because i wrote in the simplest "English" i can.

      Patrick - 2012-05-23 14:50

      Getting a moral lecture from a homophobic Nigerian is really hysterical! Pardon me as I puke!

      Ad - 2012-05-23 16:28

      This clown has actually defused any attemp a real artist was maybe working on of Hellen Zille ,while this Spear saga was going on...Well done Hellen Zille....

      Patrick - 2012-05-23 16:35

      Sorry, cannot bother to come up with anything original, still busy puking!

      Preshen - 2012-05-23 16:45

      at least her boobs are keeping her knees warm

      Noxville - 2012-05-23 17:23

      @omonaija - : How about The Vatican? Pretty sure no polygamy there.

      reddoorpaintedblack - 2012-05-23 18:10

      Zille could laugh it off, because it has no relevance. In Zuma's case it's the truth, haha, I don't get why the cANCer supporters would think this would annoy anybody. Please make more, we don't take ourselves as seriously as you do.

      GrootWitHaai - 2012-05-23 18:36

      Zille has the last laugh at the expense of the ANC...as always.

      Voiceinthedesert.co.za - 2012-05-24 09:04

      @William ANCYL - you dimwit typical tit for tat mentality. you are so uneducated you dumb ass. Has Zille been accussed of rape, Has Zille Fathered 21 children, Has Zille been known to be a sex symbol NO you are a great example of the lack of brains the voting population in this country has. no wonder you elect sex addicts and not presidents come here let me deface you you soab!!

      Omo - 2012-05-24 10:10

      @Micheal & Patrick..I have been commenting on forums long enough to know that when a person lacks the intellectual capacity to make a valid argument in a civil manner they result to insults.It is typical of people with flawed upbringing, poor education, supremacy complex and extremely low IQ.

      Antebellum - 2012-05-25 07:03

      Ok Omo, so you are looking for valid arguments. So disaplaying nude pictures of elders is wrong according to your "African" culture? What is traditional clothing for african women? http://www.shapero.com/images/stock/6/original/64125.jpg http://www.stevebloom.com/index.php?page=single&id=003517-SB1 Africans were all pretty much naked untill very recently and alot still are. Go to google and search for "african tribal women" and click on the image results. So I cannot see how being naked is "taboo" in the "African" culture. You said: "Exposing nude pictures on the internet of elders may be Ok in Europe ,America or Australia but it is a TABOO in Africa" So I must assume then it must be taboo to put it on the INTERNET since the act of being naked is not taboo as I explained earlier. But the majority of people in africa dont even know what the internet is so again I cannot see how it can be taboo according to "African" culture. And as for cultures being equal... You must know that this is not true. Look around you. Your entire lifestyle is most likely more Western than African. As deduced by your posts I can safely assume that you have a computer, internet, electricity, lights and a television. You even speak a western language. Almost everything you use everyday is a product of Western culture. If cultures are really equal, why you have you forsaken yours for one that you apparantly hate if not for its inherent superiority?

  • LadyCadaver - 2012-05-23 10:18

    Lol, that is exactly what I would do in that position,laugh it off. :-)

      Kala - 2012-05-23 10:20

      I already did.

      Warren - 2012-05-23 10:39

      Yip. Just shows the maturity level differences of the leaders. Zuma is still a little child compared to Zille!

      rbphiri - 2012-05-23 11:15

      His already a joke, that's why he can't laugh at himself.

      Marion - 2012-05-23 11:25

      @Lorain - it is actually a very amusing picture, that is why she laughed it off. Totally lacks imagination.

      James - 2012-05-23 11:31

      Do me!

      Anthea - 2012-05-23 11:45

      This is a woman who said that her children claim that she's had a sense of humour bypass. Nothing wrong with that snappy comeback godZille!

      YrHonour - 2012-05-23 11:56

      defintely a nervous or relieved laugh, she knows if they had seen the real pic then people would have had trouble with their breakfast

      Christopher - 2012-05-23 11:57

      @Lorain, She did laugh it off, so in your own words you think she is a better person for laughing it off then...You an absolute idiot!

      thulani.mbeje - 2012-05-23 12:06

      can i please make a pic of you lol. denial

      Warren - 2012-05-23 12:16

      @HugoMabasa - I don't understand your comment. What has "My fathers" got to do with the incompetence, lack of intelligence and lack of maturity our current leader shows? Oh wait. I see whats happening. You pulling the race card for no apparent reason. Pulling the race card for every little bit of incompetency shows how completely ignorant and blind you truly are. It also shows that you have no answers for the incompetence of your leader so instead you look for other venues that raise eyebrows.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-23 12:24

      Lorain, you don't know Helen Zille. So don't share your childish views here. Helen showed how a mature adult handle this kind of thing. Now compare her way with that of your precious President and the ANC and start crying a river.

      Jenny - 2012-05-23 16:54

      Yes - if Zuma had handled the situation like Helen has, the spear pic would have faded into oblivion. Good for Zille - Of course the photo is insulting but she has the good sense to just laugh it off.

      Malcolm - 2012-05-23 20:13

      @Lorain - "she's trying to make it look like she's a better person than the president" - Please man, if she wants to look like a better person than 'the president' all she has to do is not rape anyone, the reason she is laughing it of is because she IS a better person than the president, who I am not sure actually deserves to be considered a person at all.

      Mike - 2012-05-24 08:50

      Only really rude people call waiters garcon, it's not usual

      Tinky - 2012-05-24 10:27

      @ Mike - Non, c'est tout à fait commun pour des serveurs à être appelé "garçon" en France, parce que la plupart des Français ne sont pas concernés par la race et quelles connotations quelques mots peuvent avoir.

  • siya.jr - 2012-05-23 10:18

    There you go again......

  • Jean - 2012-05-23 10:18

    Excellent humour!!!

  • Werner - 2012-05-23 10:19

    ANCYL = epic fail. Once again!

      Joubs1957 - 2012-05-23 10:28

      People Opposing Economic Suffering!

      deabreu - 2012-05-23 10:47

      http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jacob_Zuma As stated, I was about to type a comment and googled "Zuma is a P" looking for the word that means Zuma "loves to fornocate with many woman, in and out of wedlock", and first Google suggestion was a surprise...

      sabongam - 2012-05-23 11:25

      @Werner I'm not defending the ANCYL and I'm your opinion is your opinion on the ANCYL = epic failure...But to make this comment based on a random Fbck profile is not objective - who said that they're responsible for this? Anyone can make up a fake profile on Fcbk and then do this...Just my two cents' worth.

  • E=MC2 - 2012-05-23 10:19

    As a TRUE politician should... Well done Helen! JZ, you could learn a thing or 2 here...

      Loo - 2012-05-23 10:36

      @Sganja ,, sure your birth certificate isn't an apology letter from Durex actually ???

      Azande - 2012-05-23 10:39

      @loo, HAHAHAHA. Sorry but that's mean dude.

      Sganja - 2012-05-23 10:39

      Loo what? I saw the picture now,her skin is swollen it turns me off.

      Bryan - 2012-05-23 10:40

      @Loo.. That's funny:-)

      NrGx - 2012-05-23 10:48

      @Sganja - Im glad to see you havnt let your education get in the way of your ignorance

      DrGonzoSA - 2012-05-23 10:53

      @Sganga As usual trying to fabricate a situation when there really isn't one. Zille's response is absolutely correct. There are more important things to worry about. Now, moving along....

      Felix - 2012-05-23 11:03

      Ouch, KO in round one for gangy.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-23 11:05

      @Sganja...if it was photoshopped better, i would believe that it was her body.

      Bryan - 2012-05-23 11:09

      Eish Sganja... ANC a$$ kisser no matter what.

      Msika - 2012-05-23 11:14

      @ Loo, Lool:)

      Marion - 2012-05-23 11:27

      The picture of Helen and the painting of JZ are miles apart. They need to get far more creative than that if they want to insult her. Anyway, when did this become a thing between JZ and HZ? It is about the artist and the gallery and JZ, not HZ and JZ.

      winston.mullany - 2012-05-23 11:37

      Sganja, even if she is offended, she's handled it like a real educated person would and laugh it off and not stir s&*% like your ANC government has!

      E=MC2 - 2012-05-23 12:10

      Sganja - once again showing your lack of education by opening your mouth (as it were). You never learn do you.

      YrHonour - 2012-05-23 12:27

      @Loo - smart one :)

      Jacqui - 2012-05-23 12:27

      Sganja, it's not her skin.

  • Kala - 2012-05-23 10:20

    I see on E TV there are a couple of artists with a painting caleed "The Shield" which is aimed as a come back for the apparent rascist "The Spear" painting. I foresee a war of art on the horizon. Grab your paint brushes and prepare to do battle!!!

      Bomb - 2012-05-23 11:24

      At least it promotes creativity.

      Koos - 2012-05-23 12:01

      I REFUSE TO PAINT ONE OF ZUMAS WIVES NAKED. I'M SORRY ... I JUST CANT'!

      Juan - 2012-05-23 13:08

      We all know what the "spear painting" signifies. Exactly what does the "shield" signify? It's a black guy standing with a clipboard inspecting a few famous naked white people. Maybe I'm a bit doff in this art thing, but what story is it telling?

      ilzeb - 2012-05-23 14:46

      @Koos ROFL!!!!! Neither would I!! LOL

      Nicolaas - 2012-05-23 18:41

      @KALA, me too! I cannot afford the amount on canvas required for such a big picture. Any-one please help with a donation of cheap card boxes and sticky tape? I need to make a huge cardboard canvas for my painting.

  • Lauden Kirk - 2012-05-23 10:20

    The guilty blame and the innocent laugh

      Freddie - 2012-05-23 10:31

      Exactly, spot on.

  • allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-05-23 10:21

    Taking revenge on the Murray painting by going after Zille, makes complete sense.

      Hadebe - 2012-05-23 10:47

      Just like going after cosatu when its not the govt.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-05-23 10:52

      Cosatu blocked the proposal not Govt.

      Felix - 2012-05-23 11:05

      Hadebe, your ignorance is showing.

      Felix - 2012-05-23 11:06

      To add to AciN, it was a government proposal in the first place.

  • Bryan - 2012-05-23 10:21

    Bwahaha... Big-ups to Godzillar for seeing the funny side of it, that's why we dig you Hellen:-)

      Christopher - 2012-05-23 12:02

      No 27% of the population is a bit more than 3 million idiot! And its growing and growing

      Juan - 2012-05-23 13:12

      @hugo it's because we don't breed like rabbits.

      Kenny - 2012-05-23 15:46

      @ Juan - Bwha ha ha @ Hugo - why so quite now? You have 20 or so of your own?

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-05-24 05:53

      Good for you, Hugo! Same here. I am afraid the Zuma's may overwhelm the Mabasa's and Steyn's at this rate...;-(

      Merven - 2012-05-24 07:37

      @Hugo, rather say, no kids that you support or know of.

  • Felix - 2012-05-23 10:21

    Ha ha, nice one Hellen. I'm sure you have more important things to worry about.

      Felix - 2012-05-23 12:08

      Oh please Hugo, at least she walked with them instead of getting a lift on bakkie like some other fatty.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-23 12:30

      Hugo, your head's been in the beehive long enough. The bees have long ago discovered it is an empty vessel.

      HugoMabasa - 2012-05-23 12:56

      Jacqui thanks,you and me always agree on things

      Juan - 2012-05-23 13:14

      Oh dear Hugo, another used Durex condom comrade

      HugoMabasa - 2012-05-23 18:14

      where?

  • gavin.lott.9 - 2012-05-23 10:23

    Goes to show Helen has bigger balls than JZ !

      E=MC2 - 2012-05-23 10:27

      hahahaha!

      gavin.lott.9 - 2012-05-23 10:50

      Hadebe that was quite funny..well done you!

      Juan - 2012-05-23 13:15

      Don't know about that be she certainly have more brain cells and a sense of humour

  • Derek - 2012-05-23 10:23

    Well done Helen! Why on earth these morons involve you in the 'spear' issue is beyond me. And please note ANCYL trolls, Zille is not unfaithfull, adulterous, philan.derous, polygamous or CORRUPT. She is a great leader for all, black and white, who would make a massive difference if she was in charge!

      Koos - 2012-05-23 10:29

      Her only crime is the whiteness of her skin and not being corrupt.

      Rob - 2012-05-23 11:14

      Too true Koos...Too true.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-05-24 05:58

      Ja-nee, Thabede. That's why grannies are raped in SA every day. Because nobody 'wants' them. Or, for that matter, children that don't even have breasts yet (pre-puberty). Carry on thinking like that. Some of your citizens may disagree.

  • Chez - 2012-05-23 10:25

    Now thats the way to handle this sort of thing. this is behaving like an adult.

  • David.J.Swart - 2012-05-23 10:25

    Oh wow! The mentality of some folk. Someone (an artist) does something you don't like (The Spear) about someone you like (Jacob Zuma). So what do you do - you attack someone else who had nothing to do with it (Helen Zille) instead of the person who did the painting (the artist). My but you are a bright spark William ANCYL - any more logic in your brain and you will be moved up in the intelligence stakes and be classed an idiot.

      Freddie - 2012-05-23 10:32

      He dreams of becoming an idiot.

  • Koos - 2012-05-23 10:26

    Ja, see how Hellen handles it vs child like anc....... they go on about a picture but when the people are murdered and an rap ed they just sit back.... get with the program cANCer!

  • Koos - 2012-05-23 10:27

    For that craftsmanship... I’d laugh myself naked as well. Zille exercises on a bike … Zuma exercises on someone. Disclaimer: Someone refers to a person but is not limited to wives and/or girlfriends. Exercises may vary and satisfaction is not the responsibility of the exercisee (if there is such a word). Results may vary. Use at own risk. Shower after exercising is highly recommended.

      QuantumDM - 2012-05-23 10:31

      Love it Koos!

      eil33nn - 2012-05-23 11:07

      I agree, that was such a poorly edited picture...

  • Azande - 2012-05-23 10:29

    The current spate of picture/painting publishing needs serious attention. its ruining the morals of our youth and respect for elderly citizens. The Zille picture is total disgrace.

      david.baker.sa - 2012-05-23 10:37

      If you make a joke of it as Zille has done (like the Canadian PM did)then there is less of an issue. If Prez Zuma had laughed it off or ignored it no-one there would be less than 1% of the current fuss. Freedom of expression is important. If someone takes offence they have many options. Sue (as Zuma did with Zapiro), protest etc. However the more fuss you make the more atention it brings to the debate. Zuma's defence has led to more discussion around his so called philandering. To what extent is it that truth hurts a tad

      Bradley - 2012-05-23 11:18

      yes it is dis-respectful but why make a fuss about it...there are millions of naked pics on the net that the youth see any who....no need to go to war about it.

      mholthuysen - 2012-05-23 11:23

      And they have morals in the first place - well there are some shining examples to follow....

      Marion - 2012-05-23 11:32

      @Azande - because it is nothing more than her face photoshopped onto an older body, it is actually very amusing. If she had been painted in the same way as Zuma then it would be a major insult to her. What I fail to understand is why she has now become a target when the problem is between Zuma and the artist and gallery. Purile to say the least.

      David - 2012-05-23 12:23

      @Marion: That painting is a reference to one of Lenin in the same pose. Those genitals are almost certainly not the president's s- indeed the painting is exactly as the one of Ms. Zille's - both are superimposed versions of other things. I do agree with you though - How does Hellen Zille become relevant in the case between Zuma and the gallery? Purile indeed.

      isabel.w.stokes - 2012-05-23 12:30

      Azande - get over yourself. If someone HAD published a photo or a painting of Helen naked (and they couldn't because she has too much dignity to ever allow nude pics of herself into the public domain) she'd still look fantastic because she has a great body and she works hard on it, unlike our saggy prez and his obese wives. And if someone posted a painting of her with her boobs hanging out - so what? She has a sense of humour, something your precious Zuma obviously lacks. If he hadn't made such an idiot of himself in the first place this wouldn't have happened, and he only has himself to blame.

      Jason - 2012-05-23 12:43

      Painting of our leaders won't effect our youth...

      reddoorpaintedblack - 2012-05-23 18:22

      And I think you're closed minded.

  • QuantumDM - 2012-05-23 10:29

    Love it Helen - show them how it is done...

      QuantumDM - 2012-05-23 11:25

      @Azande: Yes, it will remind people how it is done and then remind them of the ANC (and of how it is not done). I cannot see why that would be a bad thing - reminding politicians that they are one of us... And not above us...

      isabel.w.stokes - 2012-05-23 12:32

      Great idea, Azande! (Weren't expecting that, were you???) We DA supporters have a sense of humour. Maybe you should get one too!

      Dale - 2012-05-23 14:52

      Zille can handle anything Zuma cant... Zuma privates were in the news way before this painting. What has he done for this country.lOOK AT CAPE TOWN..Look how amazing it is

      Nicolaas - 2012-05-23 18:52

      @Mgayi, aCANCER DOES NOT HAVE SENSE OF HUMOUR. THEY ARE ALL CLOWNS, HENCE THEIR PARTY IS A CIRCUS!

      Nyiks11 - 2012-05-24 08:34

      @Nicolaas no no no , the clowns are the DA members who started a political street fight with COSATU . Have you ever noticed that clowns make the funniest faces when you taser them ?

  • Nigel - 2012-05-23 10:29

    That's how people of substance handle such matters - laugh it off. Not like this ANC crowd, totally insecure and massive 'chips' on their shoulders. What a bunch of juvenile idiots.

      YrHonour - 2012-05-23 19:14

      @Nigel - Sounds like you're ready to start own party - go man!

  • MSGRule - 2012-05-23 10:30

    Revenge!!!!! really. Things are very wrong here in South Africa. The polictics are being practised like children. Tit for tat and trying to get the "whites" angry for something that one guy did as an artist. Seriously what an idiot.

      jacqui.c.baumgardt - 2012-05-23 15:30

      tit for tat is right - lol.

  • Matthew - 2012-05-23 10:31

    ANCYL...how pathetic and typical of your supporters

  • Loo - 2012-05-23 10:33

    bwahahaha !!! You sure have your head screwed on right Mrs. Zille. I will follow you any day, naked or not :)

  • Gee - 2012-05-23 10:33

    What an insult! That's it! I'm getting a few of my boer tjommas together...! We are going to toi toi down the street and sing bobjaan klim die berg...NOT...! We have much more important things to do. Way to go Helen!

  • Shadipity - 2012-05-23 10:33

    Hell William ANCYL, you need to take some photoshop class! Zuma 0 - Zilla 1

      Koos - 2012-05-23 10:37

      Agreed... the creator is in desperate need for a "Graphics design for dummies" book.

      Bobby - 2012-05-23 10:38

      But off course our ANCYL friend did not buy Photoshop; He STOLE it by downloading it. And then you have a manual in Spanish or so...See the result!! Looks like poor William failed woodwork as well!

  • YuccaN - 2012-05-23 10:35

    Handled like a democrat and not an aristocrat

  • John - 2012-05-23 10:36

    Please have a look on my facebook page, the article written by David Hill of the Times in London. Quite an interesting outside view on how the ANC has managed our country so far.

      Rohann - 2012-05-23 11:26

      Hey,what is you FB name?

      Bruce - 2012-05-23 11:44

      I read it. Good work!

      ansophi.marais - 2012-05-23 12:02

      http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003884949299#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=107502092722622&id=100003884949299

      John - 2012-05-23 12:07

      At Rohann. Sorry mate, I hate the fact that I have to divulge personal information freely for news24 to get free stats. A pseudonym will have to do. @Tankiso: I agree with you. Except for the 'fool' comment. That is the impression we are giving people overseas. Investors the ANC themselves try to woo for presumably all our benefits. I agree with the concept of seeking ethnic equity, however, I disagree completely with the method being employed. This is where the author has a very valid point. Instead of enabling people and incentivising them to be able to enter the workforce to contribute to the economy, social grants are the only obvious method at the literal expense of the working minority (and by minority I include all races). This can only go on for so long before our over-burdened economy will implode. It's common sense Tankiso.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-23 12:33

      Yankiso, the decisions you lot have made up till now stinks.

      John - 2012-05-23 13:07

      Thanks Ansophi!

      John - 2012-05-23 17:40

      @mgayi - what's Zille and DA have to do with JZ's member? Same story, mate - it's being discussed. The blog is people chatting and related issues springing (pardon the pun)

      Jazzy - 2012-05-23 19:38

      Very interesting, 5CentsWorth

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-23 10:40

    People, please do not make fun off Sganja! it is rude to laugh at the village-idiot.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-23 11:11

      every village needs one ^.^

      YrHonour - 2012-05-23 19:15

      @Danny - Smart one

  • Ryno - 2012-05-23 10:40

    FFS - how boring...

  • niki.wessels - 2012-05-23 10:40

    Presumably the portrayal goes to show she is not covering up anything...

      Koos - 2012-05-23 10:52

      .. and she is NOT sneaking around in shadows playing at being a Marxist while doing things she is not supposed to do.

      Tankiso Mogoje - 2012-05-23 11:33

      I agree,and let's take it to an art exhibition

  • JevonMarshallJohnson - 2012-05-23 10:41

    This is what Zuma should have done. Laugh it off. Seriously.

      Koos - 2012-05-23 10:53

      Hard to laugh off the truth. It is rumored that the truth hurts.

  • Msika - 2012-05-23 10:42

    LOL! Should have been more creative though by adding a group of naked men sorrounding her, all trying to remove the DA logo, now that would have been art.

      Loo - 2012-05-23 10:44

      Stuttering hmmm ???

      Rob - 2012-05-23 11:16

      Having DA fantasies now Msika !

      Lenisto - 2012-05-23 11:39

      Spot on Martin... LOL! And that would probably sell for more than the amount of Zuma painting.

      Mewik - 2012-05-23 11:50

      Art doesn't ride on the coat tails of another artist. Plagiarism is the correct term for it. So no it wouldn't sell for much, if anything. Maybe you guys should go finger paint a naked Zille on a rock somewhere?

      Jacqui - 2012-05-23 12:35

      Msika only for people with dirty minds.

  • mzuvukile.mbanjana - 2012-05-23 10:42

    The culture of attaching racism to every evil deed is unacceptable. The reality is that we are not colourless people. Every act is surely therefore, to be committed by someone with colour. Let's take away the race spectacles when looking at an act and the person who committed the act, unless we want to destroy this country. Racism and ethnicity are amongst the causes of conflicts in Africa.

      Felix - 2012-05-23 10:50

      Amen brother! It is a tool used to divide the public.

      Althea - 2012-05-23 11:03

      Thank you for your accurate comment MZuvukile and I am happy it is coming from you because if it had come from someone else then it would have been racist!

      John - 2012-05-23 11:13

      agreed

      eil33nn - 2012-05-23 11:41

      I agree with you, but she never said that this was racist? Or the DA or anyone else except the ANC and Pres Zuma about himself.

      Bomb - 2012-05-23 11:48

      And the government uses this fact to sow racial division and hatred. Just like the US uses terror to instill fear in its people. Its about diverting the attention away from what they are REALLY doing. And 80% of SA's citizens fall for it. This government should be removed ala "Arab Spring" style with black/white fighting them together. If the people are then so obsessed with having the ANC in power, I am sure there are better ANC candidates who do not look at everything with their racist glasses on, that can run this country better. The current top anc leadership (except a few) structure are all racism propagating idiots, who cant decide whether they want to be socialists, capitalists, or communists, so they mix it up with a bit of everything. Throw in some democracy, autocracy, repression and selective discrimination, all run by a dictator and you have what is currently this bowl of vomit enducing racial hatred that the government is fuelling with their refusal to publicly denounce ALL racial conflict. Let me tell you, SA is in a very bad place currently, even worse than pre-1994, and the government refuses to acknowledge it. We were doing so good for a couple of years while the TRUE politician was in charge of the anc, and really promoted the rainbow nation principle. Its all been destroyed by self-enriching idiots, playing the uneducated masses like chess pieces. Scary, very scary.

      mabheshuenkomo.thabede - 2012-05-23 15:23

      however in this context, we cannot ignore colour, we can't realy claim africanism because we all share that, whether black or white, but values differ, and in our culture regardless of what the person has done, the potrait is an insult, and failure to akcnowledge is a reflection of how all you other races continue to view us, despite our supposed freedom since 1994. in short, this is more then just about th potrait, it's speaks to what defines us as blacks, or atleast as Zulu's, in other cultures it may be okay, as Helen so patriotically shown, but with us "blacks"(zulus to be more specific) it is unacceptable, and that is all we need all you people of other cultures and races to understand and respect

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-23 10:43

    It's all about who you are and how you behave. Zille = Adult. Zoomer = Adulterer....

  • Pixie86 - 2012-05-23 10:45

    what? She doesn't think it's 'iconic'?

  • Rob - 2012-05-23 10:46

    It's up to Mrs. Zille to decide if she is upset or not about the picture of her. I say well done for letting it slide Helen, you are obviously far more mature than Zumbie and his goons.

      Lindokuhle - 2012-05-23 11:05

      @Rob That's far different in terms of cultural customs. As for African customs, it is so disrepectful to display such pics for our president. Merely showing you the bigger picture.

      Marion - 2012-05-23 11:52

      @Lindokuhle - I think that is what most people fail to see.

      willybegood - 2012-05-23 12:42

      @Lindokuhle... perhaps you should check out the work of the artist Ayanda Mabulu. Then ask yourself, why wasnt the ANC disgusted and up in arms about elders (Arch Tutu) being painted naked. This was painted 2 years ago and no a peep from the ANC, COSATU, YCL, etc. Both pictures show a black older man (elder)with his pen1s exposed. The difference is one is painted by a white man and the other by a black man. If its disrespectful in African custom, why is Mr Mabulu's painting not receiving the same negatives as Mr Murray's. Double standards perhaps? It seems more about the image of the ANC and Zuma than about racism of the artist or disrespect.

  • DrGonzoSA - 2012-05-23 10:50

    The correct response

  • John Doeslough - 2012-05-23 10:50

    Really? So we going do the whole "tit for tat" thing? What a childish nation we live in.... Good on Zille for being the better person

  • Kevin - 2012-05-23 10:50

    Thx Helen. This is a big klap in the face of the over sensitive, racist, political opportunistic ANC. Zuma is using this tottie issue to defer other more important issues from him. Zuma you are a disgrace to this country!

  • Riaan - 2012-05-23 10:51

    I LOVE Helen's take on the whole matter. This is how grown-ups react to things like this! See it for what it is, and not try and add all kinds of racial & political connotations to it. Nice one Helen!

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-05-23 10:51

    I think this country needs a year end calendar called,,politicians and there privates 2013. They already have two pictures. Just ten to go. But please leave Bob out.

      Kenny - 2012-05-23 16:11

      Good way to make money!

      Jazzy - 2012-05-23 19:40

      give the money collected to the youth subsidy

  • Loo - 2012-05-23 10:53

    AI !!! it took one portrait of Zuma and his Zumakie to confuse the hell out of the ANC .. Luckily the ANC is not in charge of our country ... OMF ,, wait .. I am WRONG ... Oh dear .. help us all !!!!!

  • busisiwe.mahlangu.37 - 2012-05-23 10:56

    Of cos she'll laugh its photoshop

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-23 11:28

      Implying the painting is an actual portrait.

      tumelo.mabua - 2012-05-23 11:37

      Is that to suggest that Zuma's pic was real?

      Warren Mudge - 2012-05-23 11:42

      The painting of Zuma is also sort of photoshopped, unless you believe that he actually posed for this. Take off your blinkers and rather be more more concerned that Zuma is portrayed here in the image of Stalin!!

      Byron - 2012-05-23 11:45

      oh u mean like if the spear was a photoshop'd image, Zuma would've laughed it off as opposed to it being a painting showing at an art gallery?

      tumelo.mabua - 2012-05-23 12:06

      @busi you are disappointing me! You are implying that Zuma posed, or that he submitted an actual pic. How bout just conceding, as much as you hate to, that Zille won this round? It won't hurt. Truth doesn't need to be pleasent too!

      stiaan1 - 2012-05-23 13:04

      And the other one is painted, whats the difference

  • Dooie - 2012-05-23 11:00

    Zille's laughing. Zuma's crying. Where is Malema these days?

      Nigel - 2012-05-23 13:42

      He's confused, but wait, he'll pop up from somewhere soon with some profound statement.

      YrHonour - 2012-05-23 15:22

      @Janine, word is the weapon is not a great one

      Kenny - 2012-05-23 16:18

      He needs another weapon to help his weapon, like a microscope!

      Barry - 2012-05-23 19:21

      Malema? Who is Malema?

  • Mhla - 2012-05-23 11:02

    Helen Zille is realy made to carry unecessary blame. . .Why not face the guy who drew the picture of President Zuma . . leave Zille she has very important issues to attend . . .Im not even close of being DA member but she is being targeted unfairly . . .

      Nigel - 2012-05-23 13:45

      True, but not to worry, she's an adult and knows how to deal with trivial rubbish.

  • grant.hide - 2012-05-23 11:03

    Then mabe he should try putting his sausage away and do some real work for a change.

      Nicolaas - 2012-05-23 19:16

      @Getafix, pleas do not insult the sausages like that!

  • Carol - 2012-05-23 11:06

    Haaa haaaa .. Good for you Helen .... I wonder just how much more childish this is goong to get? Tit for Tat.

  • Hudayfah - 2012-05-23 11:07

    I'm confused. Where does Zille come into all of this? I thought it was Brett Murray that painted it. Oh well . . .jus one of the many strange things happening in S.A

  • George - 2012-05-23 11:08

    Just shows you what education can do for you!!! Worry about more sophisticated stuff than this story!!!

  • Leon - 2012-05-23 11:10

    Now thats how you handle it! No court case, no march, not vandals, just sense of humour! Well done Godzille