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Zuma: ANC examining need for discipline

2011-08-19 18:00

Cape Town - The ANC's leaders are set to "examine the need for discipline" within the party's ranks, ruling party president Jacob Zuma said on Friday.

In an open letter to ANC members, he said the party's national executive committee (NEC) would meet over the next four days to discuss serious matters relating to organisation building and renewal.

"The special NEC meeting is intended to take place over four days, to allow members enough time to discuss organisational issues that we have not had time to tackle before due to time constraints and a usually packed agenda at ordinary NEC meetings.

"We have decided to have no formal agenda for this meeting so that NEC members can be free to raise any matter that they feel could be an obstacle or catalyst to the building of the ANC that the founding fathers and mothers sought to build when it was founded in 1912."

While the meeting of the party's highest decision-making body would look at better ways of promoting the ANC's core values, the ultimate objective was the make it the "organisation of choice" for one million South Africans by January 8 next year.

"We will also discuss the need for discipline within the ranks of the movement," Zuma said.

Malema matter in committee hands

Earlier on Friday, the ANC's national disciplinary committee released a statement confirming it had "served charges" on its youth league head, Julius Malema.

"Comrade Julius Malema has been charged with various violations of the ANC constitution, including bringing the ANC into disrepute through his utterances and statements on Botswana and sowing divisions in the ranks of the African National Congress."

It said the matter was now in the hands of the committee, which would determine a date, venue and time for a disciplinary hearing, at which Malema would have an opportunity "to defend himself against these charges".

The statement was issued by disciplinary committee head Derek Hanekom.

In his letter, Zuma said the ANC had increased its membership by 198 057 members in the past few months.

"At the last count, last month, our membership stood at 914 852 members."

Zuma said, among other things, that the ANC's youth league would "work harder to recruit more and more young people into the ANC, and make the organisation the natural political home of South African youth".

Comments
  • poolboy - 2011-08-19 18:12

    Zuma: ANC examining need for discipline....no sh*t!!

      Pigscanfly - 2011-08-19 18:15

      With this intelligence we now know why he was voted by his Comrades as president. It's sad to acknowledge he is the best from their cesspool

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-19 18:18

      Discipline your self zuma before calling on it....you have made a joke of yourself and now you try to look good,get off your high horse....the entire ANC and ANCYL need to get out

      Craigr - 2011-08-19 18:46

      Zuma suddenly got "cold feet" 'cos he knows that Juju also has some dirt on him and he's not afraid to use it.

      Man.Dumisani - 2011-08-19 18:59

      This means that the part has now finally accepted that the ANC Youth League are in charge. THE ANC HAVE NO BALLS LEFT. Mandela must be SO ashamed!

      Karoobloed - 2011-08-19 19:39

      Guys no need to always be 100% negative - Mr. Zuma should be encouraged when he ponders taking appropriate steps.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-19 19:45

      @Karoobloed....he should also be encouraged to ponder on the wrongs he has done!

      Macho Mike - 2011-08-19 20:10

      Discipline starts at the top - with Leadership. The ANC have neither - ala Zuma and Malema. Little wonder we have such a mess around us.

      Macho Mike - 2011-08-19 20:14

      @THE.SRG I agree. But i also think what has Zuma done - eh apart from sleep around, take new wifs, visit Gadaffi, chat to Brainless Bob, take many, many showers and let Malema walk all over him.

      marco - 2011-08-19 20:46

      This is all that the ANC hands out to Malema in disciplining him for his K@K antics: *Pay 10,000 South African rand ($1385; £840) to a youth project of his choice. *Spend 20 days of the next year in the ANC's political school. *Attend some anger management and communication classes. This political party called the ANC is a complete and utter joke to say the least.What was F. W. de Klerk thinking when handed power over to these people in 1994.Did he really think that he could call up Satan and his Demons-the ANC-release them from the dungeons,negotiate and expect them to behave.Surely this whole organization-the ANC-it's very embodiment is making a mockery of transformation and metamorphosis of the proletarian revolutions they say they fought so hard for in the past.

      Buitelander - 2011-08-19 23:06

      @Marco The ANC is not a political party. It is a freedom movement. FW was thinking that he had to negotiate to prevent a protracted civil war similar to the Angola situation or to prevent an ongoing terrorist war as per Zimbabwe. from the mid 70's to 1980.

      Together - 2011-08-19 23:29

      Basically, the votes of anyone over the age of thirty can be lost then - how many South African voters are aged 30 and up? Isn't it weird to estrange and disrespect all those voters? Take note: if you aren't a young person, they don't need you. Who are the people starting companies, paying tax, employing people, teaching, guiding and obeying the law? This is a clear statement that we aren't needed.

  • Anonymus - 2011-08-19 18:13

    took the ANC 17 years to figure that one out....

      Pigscanfly - 2011-08-19 18:31

      "At the last count, last month, our membership stood at 914 852 members."...I wonder if they did a count after the "no show" at today's march in Jo'burg would it be the same...Their followers are getting "GAT-VOL" of the blatant thievery that has been instilled by the ANC

      grant9 - 2011-08-19 19:19

      The ANC was founded in1912 so its taken them 99 years to figure this out.

  • FIO - 2011-08-19 18:13

    Typical !!! Make a big noise to please everyone, but then do nothing about it. And they wonder why there is so much trouble in this country, and why it is going down the tubes. All talk, no action. Talk is cheap, however in this case talk is costing this country and the masses dearly... so sad.

  • Fanny Mc Pee - 2011-08-19 18:13

    The planned "Malema Disciplinary Hearing" is as phony as the "Iphone 5 Auction" sucker advert on News 24.

  • Logs01 - 2011-08-19 18:14

    Bla, Bla, Bla...., BOL K@K as allways. Cadres are in it for themselves!!!! Screw the people......

  • THE.SRG - 2011-08-19 18:15

    Discipline your self zuma before calling on it....you have made a joke of yourself and now you try to look good,get of your high horse....the entire ANC and ANCYL need to get out

  • Benzo - 2011-08-19 18:16

    ".......NEC members can be free to raise any matter that they feel could be an obstacle or catalyst to the building of the ANC that the founding fathers and mothers sought to build when it was founded in 1912." Why not try to remove obstacles to building a nation tomorrow instead of taking 1912 out of the mothballs?? Times have changed, my sweethearts.

      Vlooi - 2011-08-19 18:38

      Main topic will be on how to get more taxes from the taxpayers and ways to keep them disciplined if they start to revolt.

  • Baas Frik - 2011-08-19 18:18

    It is late in the day if discipline only becomes an issue now. They just dont have it.

  • abg100 - 2011-08-19 18:25

    The lesson will be for them to be more careful in corruption,wheeling and dealing and to be more disciplined in their spending so that the rot is not so glaringly obvious!The youth league must attract more youth to the anc-GOD HELP US ALL!TELL THEM ALL TO SHOWER MORE REGULARLY-MR ZUMA-WORKED WONDERS FOR YOU!!

  • BnQE - 2011-08-19 18:27

    Watch for interesting power-play coming to the fore now - will the young lions stand back or will they Roar - has Julius got a united ANCYL behind him or not - has Zuma got what it takes or will he cower? - Let the games begin ...

      Pigscanfly - 2011-08-19 18:32

      Amen to that

      jen - 2011-08-19 21:52

      Zuma must get rid Malema now or he will be made to look weak and lose face. The fat hyena, smelling victory once again, will be even more uncontrollable and rude about his elders and betters. Once he cannot use the ANC as a vehicle for his outrageous utterings. Let him start his own party - he won't get far without the might of the ANC behind him. Many of his supporters will be lost when they see him beaten and out in the cold. Let him start his own party. He won't get very far without the might of the ruling party without him. Bullies back down when they're cornered, so he I'm betting he'll fade away if he gets any real discipline.

      Together - 2011-08-19 23:31

      Basically, the votes of anyone over the age of thirty can be lost then - how many South African voters are aged 30 and up? Isn't it weird to estrange and disrespect all those voters? Take note: if you aren't a young person, they don't need you. Who are the people starting companies, paying tax, employing people, teaching, guiding and obeying the law? This is a clear statement that we aren't needed.

  • michael.e.bowery - 2011-08-19 18:30

    You need a very long spoon to sup with the devil!

  • R.Suppards - 2011-08-19 18:30

    Let's see if the tail wags the dog.

  • Trueblue - 2011-08-19 18:31

    "the building of the ANC that the founding fathers and mothers sought to build when it was founded in 1912." How ironic that today's ANC is very far from the type of ANC that its founders envisaged. These were educated men and women, many of whom were ministers of religion and teachers, who would certainly not have supported Marxist-Leninism, or the looting that is done today in the name of the organisation they founded. Why have a four day conference? Just get some balls and apply the rules as set out in the constitution of the ANC. What's so difficult about that? But, this four day conference will take place at an expensive hotel or resort and will end with the need to have another longer conference at another expensive hotel or resort. The taxpayers will pay for it, so what?

  • mabsie - 2011-08-19 18:35

    A meeting with no agenda? Well, in my experience thats a disaster. It will just become a muddle and waste of tax payers money. There always needs to be an agenda.

      Vlooi - 2011-08-19 18:39

      I doubt if they know the difference between an Agenda and a Menu

  • asiseeit - 2011-08-19 18:40

    I wonder if Winnie will be there at his side stating that Malema will be the next President........

  • BOBBY - 2011-08-19 18:45

    thats bull Zuma is looking or 2nd term n his tym is up so with dis few years left he should able 2 deal with

      Lestor - 2011-08-19 18:50

      Well tbh do you want a second term of Zuma or the next guy the ANC picks? I choose Zuma, at least he does nothing, the next guy might actually try to interfere.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-19 19:05

      piss off you jerk,write like a grown up and not like a teen sms'ing his girlfriend,im guessing you want Malema to take over the reigns,go back to your books my friend and better yourself

  • Ex-employer - 2011-08-19 18:50

    No discipline, no respect, it is as simple as that, but start that the top.

  • Sanity - 2011-08-19 19:03

    MR PRES, MAY I ASK; WILL J MALEMA BE PART OF THE MEETING?

  • sipholess - 2011-08-19 19:12

    I can just picture it, 5 star hotel....freedom songs....Johnny Walker Blue label....a group of fat lazy darkies all attempting to out-bling each other. Life must be good in SA.

  • braamc - 2011-08-19 19:22

    Call yourselves "leaders" discipline, honesty, integrity etc comes with being a leader. You are breading and hosting thieves, criminals, lazy, incompetent,arrogant "leaders" What rubbish, shameful party, leading our society. F&&&&&&&&&&& off

  • vegetarian - 2011-08-19 19:22

    @sipholess You are a stupid and unwelcome fool of foreign origin. You have no reason to insult our people. Nobody invited you into this country.

      abg100 - 2011-08-19 19:35

      Your people as you say wouldnt even know how to read,write-practice basic hygiene[although youre all a bit slow at practising the latter]if it wasnt for THE UNWELCOME FOOLS OF FOREIGN ORIGON. Go back to your little mud hut,wear your thong,drink your brew out of your calabash,with your 9000 screaming children and take all your PEOPLE with!!!! YOU IGNORANT CREATURE!!!!

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-19 20:03

      Aaaaargh VrotCabbage, go back to your vegetable patch. The brussel sprouts are missing you cretin.

  • Softy - 2011-08-19 19:24

    the anc members (900,000) determine who runs the country.....if all the whites who are elegible to vote joined the anc they would have the majority and could appoint the leader of the anc.....this is how malema and the anc youth league have so much power....king makers.....wake up whities and all join the anc....they have a flawed electoral system that is open to this....malema is wide awake hes seen this....why is everone else asleep.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-19 19:29

      I'd rather die

      vegetarian - 2011-08-19 19:35

      Please die already THE.SRG.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-19 20:04

      VrotCabbage, I'm afraid to say it's you who is already dead .... brain dead.

  • Colin Dovey - 2011-08-19 19:33

    There is now no doubt that the ANC is falling apart. I predict that Malema and his cohorts will break away to form a new party, and the old ANC will fold and try to form alliances with other entities - but because of the rampant corruption and overspending, and lack of financial controls, they will now really struggle to do so. Wait and see.

  • I Like Everything - 2011-08-19 19:33

    I like that they're examining the need for discipline.

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-08-19 19:36

    The word "Discipline" is totally foreign to JZ,ANC,Cele,Winnie,Shaik,Malema and comrades. Prove me wrong? Take a look at -- the s0-called Defense Force with 40year-old troops that are overweight,much like the corrupt & incompetent Police force! The teachers that run shebeens,has sex with minors? The mayors that live in Mansions that are forever being "maintained". Discipline? Starts at home JZ!

  • Tgif - 2011-08-19 19:39

    Is DISCIPLINE a word that appears in any of the 9 black official languages? The same as INITIATIVE ???are there any black language words for these concepts???? I think not and if there are why are they not practiced by black people ?????? I think that Discipline and Initiative are white mans words too difficult for a black man to translate into their own language and therefore impossible to follow or adhere to or understand!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • beicime - 2011-08-19 19:52

    And who examines the examiner?

  • vegetarian - 2011-08-19 19:56

    @abg100 The rightwinger who put a thumb up next to your silly comment is very stupid indeed. For your information civilization started in Africa. While your ancestors were still hunting one another for food Africans had well established communities regulated by well administered rules as opposed to dog eat dog and survival of the fittest that was the order of the day in the unhospitable hell hole called Europe. Even you who is a loud mouth in our country today you are a progeny of people who ran away from the shoddy European justice. Some ran away from the barbarities that are an order of the day in that evil continent or from being eaten by their fellow country men.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-19 20:06

      VrotCabbage please do me a huge favour and tell everybody on this forum your theory of human development .... oh come on, be a sport.

      vegetarian - 2011-08-19 20:17

      ProudOfPink I will never engage in an intellectual debate with a useless cretin like you.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-19 20:24

      VrotCabbage, didn't think you would because you sure got whipped the last time girlie.

      Darkwing Duck - 2011-08-19 21:24

      @vegetarian - you will find that the history lessons you are subscribing to usually begin with "A long, long time ago in a land far, far away..."

      abg100 - 2011-08-20 11:37

      Vegitarian-I would like you to answer the following:i Do you call civilized-using human body parts as muti? killing someone because he/she is an albino? having sex with an infant because it can cure aids? having sex with lesbians to CURE THEM? killing innocent people because you suspect them of being a witch? brutally beating a man to death because he is a foreigner? what exacttly have the first citizens of africa ever invented,discovered or achieved???If you look at the achievements of the UNHOSPITABLE HELL HOLE-EUROPE-do you see any of the above mentioned behaviour? They have vast infrastructures,economies-the list is endless!! You have had grrdom since 1994 and in that time what has the black person achieved-il tell you:taking a sound economy and ruining it,going through life expecting everything for free because you are too lazy,ignorant and arrogent living on excuses to work for it.Millions is spent on aids but still you sleep around with 100s of partners.Your children hang around the streets sniffing glue and the parents dont care cause theyre blind drunk at home.Your leaders are corrupt,rascist and uncaring execept for themselves.It was the same europe that helped FREE you,that supplies aid to millions of your kin in africa where theyre just as backward as year 1.None of you have the capacity to actually try and make yourselves better human beings-after all rather just blame it on apartheid and injustice! You self serving ignorant brainless CIVILALIZED CITIZEN of s.a.

  • Rex - 2011-08-19 20:00

    My President you have a new boss

  • JudithNkwe - 2011-08-19 20:01

    Dear President Zuma - you are the major cause of the problem and it has grown since you gained power

  • Mariki - 2011-08-19 20:01

    Thanks Mr The President. At last we see the reaction we need from our leader. Please do not disappoint us again. I think Madiba's heart ache when he listens to this little trit. He is so against what Madiba (and many others) stood for.

  • darkwing - 2011-08-19 20:26

    And what is that European imperialist bastard, Hanekom, doing, chairing the Committee? African solutions for African problems.

      dragonben - 2011-08-24 12:16

      You elected him!

  • vegetarian - 2011-08-19 20:32

    @Softy Your comment is so true. There are more than 3 million whites who are legible to vote in this country. Instead of whinging and whining, they should just join the ANC and outvote the current leadership and install their own people.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-19 20:43

      VrotCabbage, the 10 million whites (sorry for the correction, but yes there are that many of us) would rather die than lower ourselves to vote for the ANC. The majority of us have respect and morals and to sacrifice these qualities in order to join a crime syndicate goes against the grain and very fibre of who we are.

  • marco - 2011-08-19 20:46

    This is all that the ANC hands out to Malema in disciplining him for his K@K antics: *Pay 10,000 South African rand ($1385; £840) to a youth project of his choice. *Spend 20 days of the next year in the ANC's political school. *Attend some anger management and communication classes. This political party called the ANC is a complete and utter joke to say the least.What was F. W. de Klerk thinking when handed power over to these people in 1994.Did he really think that he could call up Satan and his Demons-the ANC-release them from the dungeons,negotiate and expect them to behave.Surely this whole organization-the ANC-it's very embodiment is making a mockery of transformation and metamorphosis of the proletarian revolutionS they say they fought so hard for in the past.

  • amabok - 2011-08-24 11:56

    Zuma constantly reading, evaluating, examining, researching... but DOES f**k all.

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