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Zuma: Malema not in charge of SA

2011-10-03 10:40

Johannesburg - The ANC and government are in charge of South Africa and not Julius Malema, President Jacob Zuma said on Monday.

“The African National Congress (ANC) and government are in charge,” he said during a business breakfast in Sandton on Monday morning, organised by the New Age newspaper and SABC.

The session was intended to give the president the opportunity to update the country about progress Zuma's administration had made since the State of the Nation address, at the start of the year.

Zuma said they had tried to control the ANC Youth League leader following his public utterances, and that the ANC had taken action against him because it felt he was getting out of control.

He was however quick to point out the ANC would not stop its leaders and members from raising issues.

Malema had made public statements about the nationalisation of mines and expropriation of land without compensation.

Malema, ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, league secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, deputy president Ronald Lamola, treasurer general Pule Mabe, and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi were currently facing several charges before an ANC disciplinary committee.

They were brought after comments that the ANCYL would help bring about regime change in Botswana.

The six were also accused of sowing divisions within the party.

Comments
  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-10-03 10:46

    But the kindergarten comrade Juju, like a taxi driver, doesn't know that....

      Shadoz - 2011-10-03 11:01

      maybe someone should inform Malema

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-03 11:19

      "Zuma: Malema not in charge of SA" I'd say "thank goodness" but that still leaves us with JZ :-(

      Shivaskar - 2011-10-03 11:24

      Talk, talk, talk Zuma but no action. What are the status of the corruption probes? Found anyone guilty yet? Recovered the lost money? Thought not. Please take a Shower before you can Apply your mind to these! Unless we get answers and see consequences imposed against fraudsters, you and the ANC are useless to me.

      Notuagain - 2011-10-03 11:29

      This must set a world record for a slow reponse...

      cliffarc - 2011-10-03 11:31

      - Then exactly who is in charge Zuma ? It certainly aint you.

      P-JB - 2011-10-03 11:32

      I DON’T BELIEVE A SINGLE WORD. The ANC and ANCYL have NO integrity left and no-one in their right mind would believe anything they say. If you, Mr President, are in charge – and not Malema, then PROVE it.

      MaanDonkie - 2011-10-03 11:38

      Zoom Zoom you're actually quite a comedian!! Do you think for one moment intelligent South Africans must believe this BS!! Your action or lack thereof exposes you as the weakest leader this country has ever seen!

      Green Oaks - 2011-10-03 11:38

      Zuma. Talk is cheap, money buys the whiskey

      marco - 2011-10-03 11:41

      We'll just have to see about that sir Mr Zuma.Malema got rid of one president before in,Thabo Mbeki,so what makes you,Zuma,thinks he won't do it again and to you.Getting rid of people in position of authority is Malema's forte,it's all he's good at.Malema's thugs will toi toi and then that's it -curtains for Zuma it's just a matter of time really.Don't the ANC have a leadership contest coming up soon in their conference heartland of Polokwane?Out of order and beyond discipline,Malema will use an event like that,if not sooner,to stir the violent demon possessed masses into tossing Mr Zuma out in the cold waters of reality South Africa.

      GetitRight - 2011-10-03 11:54

      YAWN!!!!!

      Van-Der-Moodley - 2011-10-03 12:22

      Indeed Malema is in charge of SA. BIG YOUTH of SA [Malema]is the chief destroyer,and he is fully in charge of that in SA,since 2002 when he was the president of COSAS.

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-10-03 12:39

      TALK TO THE HAND.... because the BRAIN AIN'T LISTENING!!! Doubt you in charge EITHER MR PRESIDENT... Or is your WIVES running the country????? The problem YOU are facing Jacob, is that WITHOUT MALEMA and his followers, your POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS ARE PTRETTY MUCH FUCT!

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-03 12:40

      On the news the other day = 27% of black people support Malema (so 73% don't); 4% of coloured folk and 2% white folk support him; no Asians support him at all. What I would like to know is this - who the heck is in the 2% of whites who support Malema?!

      Ryan - 2011-10-03 12:46

      Marco getting some thumbs up for a change. I would have expected him to be pro ANC, pro JZ and pro Malema. the same way he is pro Gaddafi and anti the UN

      The Wonderer - 2011-10-03 13:07

      Actually unfortunately Malemmer is in (out of)control of the country, he has SA at stage 6, stage 7 is genocide. "Genocide Watch will keep South Africa at Stage 6 - Preparation, until Julius Malema is removed from his position of growing power." http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

      Ryan - 2011-10-03 13:18

      @ Matt .. there's a 2 % chance its someone in your family or one of your mates ;)

      IsThatAFact - 2011-10-03 15:17

      Zoooma Just by saying that means you not in charge of the country because if you were people would know without you having to tell them. One way to do that is be decisive and discipline that fat fridge magnet.

      supporter - 2011-10-03 15:45

      proof it then zuma, proof it.

      phillie - 2011-10-03 15:51

      I think zuma has lost contact with reality mal-enema IS in charge ask the youth

      TheUgly - 2011-10-03 16:25

      Malema might not be in charge be in charge of South Africa but he certainly has some form of leverage over Zuma. What do you think it might be? Irrefutable proof of the weapons deal, etc. What ever it is... it makes Zuma Malema's puppet.

      Humpme Dumpm - 2011-10-03 17:25

      Zoomer......you may be in charge, but you're not leading SA.....therein lies the difference

      Rowen - 2011-10-03 21:26

      Rowen:Zuma not in charge of SA

      whereu - 2011-10-04 03:31

      Shadoz, maybe someone should also explain to Zuma what he has said.

  • Deon - 2011-10-03 10:47

    ARE in charge !!! Mooi man !

      Gazza69 - 2011-10-03 11:40

      Its as i suspected.......NO-ONE is in charge! SA is a rudderless ship about to wreck itself! Zuma your time is up anyway......puppet exit stage left! (He may not go right..)

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-10-03 12:43

      THE LLUNATICS HAVE TAKEN OVE THE ASSYLUM!!!!

  • d2eguy - 2011-10-03 10:47

    then why do you jump and dance to malema`s tune ... or are you just spineless zuma ?

      Van-Der-Moodley - 2011-10-03 11:44

      The headline should read 'Zuma and Malema are not running the country.' The big youth and Zuma are both messengers of contempt...fighting for political positions. It's dog eat dog situation..who suffers? The country.The gravy train's wheels are begining to come off steadily.I hope after the political oxygen has been been switched off the big youth and his big dad, the country will steadily move in the right direction. This is a circus without the ringmaster.Period.

      PB - 2011-10-03 14:50

      zuma is going to loose a lot of weight - not only does he have to dance to juliaars' tune, he also has to do the same for his chinese masters.

      whereu - 2011-10-04 10:08

      Agree Van-Der-Moodley, Malema says jump, and Zuma says how high, baas?

  • pragmatism - 2011-10-03 10:47

    and it's that simple...

  • ChrisG - 2011-10-03 10:47

    Yet another thing JZ and Julius have in common... neither of them is running the country.

      Phlegm - 2011-10-03 11:20

      LOL Exactly, I mean we need at least someone running the country and it certainly isn't Zuma, and if not Malema then who? Will the real leader please stand up......

      IandI - 2011-10-03 11:39

      And both need to go back to school.LOL

      charms - 2011-10-03 12:56

      And this is more like showing the world on HOW NOT TO RUN A COUNTRY!!

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-10-03 13:59

      RUDDERLESS SHIP on the Horizon.... being tossed about by strong CRIME, and lawlessness!!

      TheUgly - 2011-10-04 08:27

      Maybe we can do without a president for four year.

      dgee - 2011-10-04 16:57

      China?

  • Darwinian - 2011-10-03 10:48

    "...he said during a business breakfast in Sandton on Monday morning, organised by the New Age newspaper and SABC." costing tax-payers thousands of rands....

      Gazza69 - 2011-10-03 11:56

      SABC? Were there prostitutes there as well??

  • Toni - 2011-10-03 10:55

    Mr President. Julius Malema is the medicine of your own doing. He did all this during the former president, and because he was supporting you it was all hugs and kisses. Now because he is against you, you fight him with all state resources. It is time that the ANC differentiate between country and party politics. The country is plundered in chaos while you are fighting your succession battles with our tax monies. We are less impressed!

      Phlegm - 2011-10-03 11:30

      Yip, previously people concerned with Malema's comments were told that they just suffer from Malemphobia, looks like JZ may be developing this condition too.

      Slartibartfast - 2011-10-03 11:42

      ..... but severely OPressed.

      cliffarc - 2011-10-03 12:11

      - Yep - and while this power struggle is playing out ,the country is falling apart. The Anc is rupturing badly and the effect on the country is highly damaging.

      Toni - 2011-10-03 12:22

      Mr President you don't even have to remind us South Africans who is not our president and who is the president. South Africa is without leadership, if the ANC thought running a country is through tribalism and factionalism, now is the time that myth was proven wrong. South Africa will never recover from this nightmare.

      TheUgly - 2011-10-04 08:31

      @Toni: Hulle gee nie om oor die nasie nie, net hulle familie trusts. Hierdie gaan miskien nou snaaks klink maar (lw, ek gee nie om nie), hulle moet maar pap skep terwyl dit reen. ;-)

  • York Hunt - 2011-10-03 10:59

    Actually its MOB RULE! Democracy sliding into anarchy!

      Johnny-BB - 2011-10-03 11:15

      ..."Africa-democracy" = tyranny by the mob....!!

      TheUgly - 2011-10-04 08:32

      Sometimes democracy just doesn't work.

  • Craig Louw - 2011-10-03 10:59

    "We approve each and every document that is official, even if it's an opinion of a person."

  • lienta - 2011-10-03 10:59

    haai rerig ?

  • Gaina - 2011-10-03 11:00

    You may think you are in charge but, but you are not fit to rule. Corruption rules and Malema is allowed to scare off investors local and foreign with his hate speech and threats of nationalization, and the government does very little to still the fears of South Africans, is it because the want to grab it all and screw the country and the poor.

  • MissGremlinSays - 2011-10-03 11:00

    Then discipline the disrespectful little arse, and get down to the business of repairing your/our stuffing country.

      TheUgly - 2011-10-04 08:34

      16% drop of the entire value of the Rand because investors are hesitant. Thanks guys, If the ANC was a business you would be so screwed.

  • LGH - 2011-10-03 11:00

    Please just do the job you are supposed to do (PROPERLY!!)

      TheUgly - 2011-10-04 08:35

      They have no skills, so they went into politics.

  • sniperman - 2011-10-03 11:01

    Brave words Shower Head. My God bless your pointed little head!

      Cynix - 2011-10-03 11:17

      Sure, sure - but spare a thought for Derek Hanekom for attempting to do a career-ending job!

  • Big mack - 2011-10-03 11:01

    Ja boet..!!!

  • WarDog - 2011-10-03 11:02

    Does Malema know this?

  • Gordon20 - 2011-10-03 11:02

    The people of South Africa should be in charge of South Africa.

      tootingdel - 2011-10-03 11:08

      Correct - they are both in practice and theory. That is why the ballot box is so powerful. So we can only blame ourselves for the leaders we choose - that is the crux of the matter. Until people choose in the ballot box for those who can deliver, are not corrupt and have the interests of the whole of SA at heart - we shall continue to be 'lead' by those less suitable.

      shaun.cousins1 - 2011-10-03 11:09

      Difficult one....A) The manority cannot stand together, B) the majority would totally destroy the country.

      Doepster - 2011-10-05 08:37

      An Australian asked me what apartheid actually was? I told him it was basically a zoo with the animals in cages that kept them apart and under control. I added that now that the animals had been let out to run the show, the World can see why they needed to be in cages. He understood me perfectly

  • Cliff - 2011-10-03 11:04

    Who is going to believe that crap! Where is the discipline???????

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-10-03 11:05

    we are not sure zuma

      TheUgly - 2011-10-04 08:36

      Zuma doesn't strike me as a person who is very sure either.

  • Ann - 2011-10-03 11:06

    Well, Mr President, can you please share that information with Malema? Thank you.

      TheUgly - 2011-10-04 08:37

      That would require his balls to drop. So... no.

  • Willyza - 2011-10-03 11:06

    By the looks of thing, Zuma has brought like b@ll to work, and not left them at home for a change?

  • DiePriester - 2011-10-03 11:08

    Wonder who told Zuma to say that?

  • MAWEMAWE - 2011-10-03 11:08

    if malema is not in charge then who is in charge?

      allows - 2011-10-03 14:45

      Obviously China is in charge....

      TheUgly - 2011-10-04 08:39

      Zuma isn't a very assertive person so technically speaking this country is being run by his wife. Sorry, wives.

      Martin - 2011-10-04 10:29

      @allows: Brilliant!

  • Peacock - 2011-10-03 11:08

    Yeah.. he has confirmed it, The ANC are in charge and they will take charge of ALL of our hard eared money

  • Nongqovu - 2011-10-03 11:13

    I'm soo glad i hear there are talks that Zuma is not gonna be voted for second term, this has been the best news to me ever. I cant wait for 2012.

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-10-03 13:24

      Musa... If you are part of that electoral process i beg you to just pick a LEADER. Fact is Zuma is no leader and will never lead. By this i mean no disrespect to the ANC but i think time and history has proven this fact. Another fact is that an unstable country leads to a declining economy which breeds less jobs, less security and more corruption. In my opinion Malema is causing this crack by making promises he cannot keep, just for the vote, and Zuma by never taking the lead and living the example. They are building a society on the idea of "vote for us and maybe one day you can live like us"... That mentality will benefit 1000 people perhaps, not 50million.

      Pekkie - 2011-10-03 13:26

      No he wont, You wanna bet? ;))))))

  • woodifer - 2011-10-03 11:14

    the anc and zuma talk nothing but cr*p.malema might not be in charge yet,but will be sooner that you all think.

  • ridgebacksam - 2011-10-03 11:14

    Yeah Right...

  • tehedim - 2011-10-03 11:15

    i stil say you created the monster that you guys cannot control this boy is playing on your heads and the is nothin you can do about it. both leader didnt have any background wen they were put in power axcept politically. can you in your right mind get someone from the street give him maths textbook show him the class and say go an start teaching and you can learn maths as you teach...........

  • nws - 2011-10-03 11:18

    only reason for the comment on zumas side is for support but its only a away to take your mind of of things

  • Smart Man - 2011-10-03 11:19

    Zuma you are right, he is not in charge yet. He will be in charge very soon

  • Deset Rat - 2011-10-03 11:19

    You could have fooled me, all I can see is the ANC led government running the country into the ground!

  • Thulas - 2011-10-03 11:21

    If that makes you sleep at night then its fine Mr Zuma. somebody please tell msholozi what juju did to Mbeki. this time malema will kill for Tokyo you just watch, remember he said no friends in politics.

  • Deeteem - 2011-10-03 11:23

    Mmmmmm I am still "applying my mind" before I answer !! But I am still convinced that the herd boy is the worst leader we have EVER had !!

      charms - 2011-10-03 13:01

      Yes for sure, and sheep does what sheep do....all follows the one in front because they just can't think for themselves!!!!

  • The Dude - 2011-10-03 11:23

    lets see what actually happens.. dont think much

      TheUgly - 2011-10-04 08:41

      We are in this situation because certain people don't think much!

  • robadog - 2011-10-03 11:30

    Zuma get off your hands , stand like a MAN & START ACTING LIKE A PRESIDENT for a change, grab his Malema upstart and choke the KAK out of him!!!!!!!!!

      Ingie - 2011-10-03 14:57

      He's holding onto his balls so he can't get off his hands

  • Damian Newell - 2011-10-03 11:31

    What actually happened with the disciplinary hearing? It just seemed to disappear from the news. What was the outcome??

      Benny66 - 2011-10-03 12:26

      Yes! What has happened? You'll probably find the report is sitting on his desk awaiting his "decision", like the several reports submitted by the NPA. The man, it would seem, just does not have the capacity to take hard nosed decisions as befits a good leader!

      charms - 2011-10-03 13:05

      Or maybe he just doesn't know how to read...

      Seanred - 2011-10-05 07:42

      Restarts tomorrow I think.

  • Boxxer - 2011-10-03 11:32

    Crime, corruption and lawlessness = no one's in charge.

      Johnny-BB - 2011-10-03 11:46

      ...correction, ....the criminals are in charge....

  • anna - 2011-10-03 11:32

    Prove it, you spineless idiot!

      Mike or Mpho - 2011-10-03 12:06

      he's too busy stealing to be bothered

  • ResistStance - 2011-10-03 11:35

    Everything that Zuma or the ANC denies later proves to be true. Applying ANC logic we can therefore conclude that Malema is in fact in control of the country.

  • GuyverXT9 - 2011-10-03 11:35

    So Mr Zuma, when will we, the public, find out what'll happen to Malema and his cronies? Anything other than dismissal will not be enough, and will set the tone of things to come.

  • Dean - 2011-10-03 11:36

    how does such an odd shape head fit on my television screen every nite? No aspect ratio seems to look right ;)

      Vrijheid - 2011-10-03 11:51

      That is a very good point, I though I had a 3D tv watching that odd shaped head, but it turns out my TV does not have such an aspect ratio and the image appears 3D.

  • AndV - 2011-10-03 11:37

    Now that malema has run past zuma, now he wakes up! Bit too late my chum, I would say. By the way, minister (opportunist) Tokio and your arrogant misiter of defence supports malema. They stabbed you in the back!

  • Mr.Faice - 2011-10-03 11:38

    Well it's quite obvious. If Malema was in charge, things would be already be very different.

  • IC1 - 2011-10-03 11:39

    Sad when the ruling party and president of a country allows themselves to be put into a situation where the feel the have to reassure a the country as to who is actually in charge. What a bunch of clowns

      marco - 2011-10-03 12:30

      @IC1 It's sad but not unusual and certainly not the first time either and we not the only country that has done it.In 2008 during the financial meltdown,UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown had his well documented spat's and differences with his chancellor Alistair Darling as to who's in charge of their country's public spending and the financial recovery.Russia had the same problem in that a public row between President Dmitry Medvedev and his finance minister Alexei Kudrin,who by the way has resign last Monday(26/09/11)over Putin's running for re-election in Russia,meant that the public needed reassurances that all was well in Russia. So South Africa ain't the first and certainly not the only country that gone through things like this.There are "clowns" everywhere in this world not just in South African politics.

      IC1 - 2011-10-03 12:58

      @Marco: Sure I agree with you in terms of what you are saying, however Alistair Darling and Kudrin were senior cabinet members. What I see as a differentiator is JM position, as leader of a YOUTH PARTY, he is not even a member of parliament.

  • kleinkoppi - 2011-10-03 11:44

    Mr Prez, you sure Malema is not running the country, cause I think he has a lot more support than you have at this stage... Just look at what they have done to the KZN ANCYL executive, they were disbanded because the did not support Malema during his "so called" trial (when will we - the public - know what the outcome is) as well as because they support YOU for a second term... Time to start making changes Mr Prez, where is all the work opportunities you promised the country... My 2c will be to start sending all the illegal immigrants from Zim and Moz and wherever they come from back to there own countries, that way you will be able to deal with 2 issues... LESS CRIME AND MORE WORK FOR THE SOUTH AFRICAN PEOPLE...

  • Vrijheid - 2011-10-03 11:46

    One thing is for sure Zuma changes his words depending on what crowd he addresses. He is the master of words yet a fool to most.

      ResistStance - 2011-10-03 12:02

      I'm not sure I would even call him a neophyte of words, he struggles to even form basic sentences. He is quite a liar though, but isn't good at that either its quite obvious when he is lying to anyone who is not stupid. In fact I can think of very little that he is a master at, having children and making really poor decisions I guess?

  • Michael - 2011-10-03 11:47

    Please, Mr President, ask permission from Malema to let you let SA know,( since you have said you yourself don't know), if the Dalai Lama will be issued a visa any time soon!

  • AA - 2011-10-03 11:50

    He is going to do to you what the two of you did to Mbeki. Wake up!!! You created a monster that is going to eat you alive!!!

  • MuntuzaB - 2011-10-03 11:51

    What Zuma means is that the ANC and government are theoretically in charge of SA, but Malema is in practical terms the one who is in charge of running the day to day government of SA to the ground

  • Sick-of-it - 2011-10-03 11:57

    I wonder if Zuma reads all these comments,he should to see how intelligent yet frustrated South Africans feel. South Africa is slowly but surely going down the drain and Zuma and his government does NOTHING.things will change when the illiterate,uneducated youth and voters realse that the people they support and vote for, does NOTHING to change their circumstances,they are only in it for themselves. Also, how the f..k could anybody think a man with just St. 2 (Grade 4) can run a country successfully?

      charms - 2011-10-03 12:46

      Sorry....can Zuma or Malema actually read!!? Don't think any of the 2 will ever know what is commented about them unless they find someone to do the reading!