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Zuma: The movement is in crisis

2011-06-27 14:28

Midrand - The movement leading South Africa is in crisis, President Jacob Zuma said on Monday, bemoaning ill-discipline, pre-maturely introducing key debates and the use of money to promote self-interest.

"Members of powerful organisations believe they can deal with things the way they want and not the way the situation demands," he told delegates at the Congress of SA Trade Unions' central committee at Gallagher Estate in Midrand.

"For example, we may just decide to say whatever we want and not care about the image of the organisation because we believe even if we lose votes, it will not be a big loss as we are big anyway!" he said.

Zuma is president of the country and the ruling ANC, which is part of an alliance movement with Cosatu and the SA Communist Party.

After the 2011 local elections, the ANC in taking stock of the poll results, particularly its performance among minority groups, said comments made by ANC Youth League president Julius Malema could have alienated these groups.

Respect and discipline

Zuma said the crisis facing the movement was not unique to the ANC, but had affected other liberation movements.

"Our strength could become our weakness if we are not careful," he warned.

Another challenge the movement faced was the "disappearance of respect and discipline" in the ANC.

"... [We] have introduced a new culture of exchanging views and dealing with the views of other comrades publicly, even before we test such views within our organisations, and with the comrades who hold those views.

"This has introduced a tendency to determine policy on our feet, having not gone through the proper process that would normally help to maintain the dignity of the organisation," he said, without specifically mentioning Malema's push for the nationalisation of mines, and land reform.

Malema and the ANCYL managed to get nationalisation onto the ANC's agenda at its national general council last year, where the party resolved to probe the viability of the state playing a larger role in the economy.

The ANCYL at its national conference this month also pushed for land redistribution without compensation.

"... [W]e introduce some debates prematurely before we have discussed them among ourselves and it creates a space for more disagreement in public on matters that could have [been] discussed and agreed on internally and give leadership as a united voice."

Zuma reminded ANC members that the party had a "tried and tested" policy making process - which dated back to its formation in 1912.

‘Money a big sickness’

Another challenge the movement faced was making issues a "free for all", when members misunderstood the party's "transparency and openness".

"This helps a situation wherein people who are not necessarily part of our broad movement but who have certain views to promote, and also those who may have money but certain objectives, to find space to use other people to promote their policies in the movement.

"When interests are at stake, the issue of leadership becomes a matter of life and death," he said.

"The issue is not how the organisation will or should be led, but how the interests of certain people must be protected."

Zuma said the "money issue" had become a "big sickness" in the organisation - saying money was used to promote self-interest and this impacted on how the organisation was run.

"We need to uproot this sickness so that our organisations whose interests it is to defend the revolution can become instruments of the revolution rather than instruments of certain classes of certain people."

He called on members to stop "clique-ism" and "gossip" and to adhere to the "revolutionary way" of doing things.

"These tendencies must be fought by all who still call themselves revolutionaries.

"It’s easy for anyone to call himself or herself a revolutionary who paid nothing to say so," he added.

Comments
  • Ngwenya47 - 2011-06-27 14:33

    Key to solving the crises ... step down and take Julias with you.

      Smaal - 2011-06-27 15:06

      Wonder if anyone will give Zuma a job when he is ousted. Better question yet, is he qualified for any other job?

      Smaal - 2011-06-27 15:06

      Wonder if anyone will give Zuma a job when he is ousted. Better question yet, is he qualified for any other job?

      Werner - 2011-06-27 15:09

      @Ngwenya47 That's one of the solutions, yes. Well done Mr. Zuma for waking up. Now the question is - whatcha gonna do about it, huh?

      Werner - 2011-06-27 15:09

      @Ngwenya47 That's one of the solutions, yes. Well done Mr. Zuma for waking up. Now the question is - whatcha gonna do about it, huh?

      happygolucky - 2011-06-27 15:10

      @Smaal: im not too sure...is there an opposite occupation to Robin hood?

      happygolucky - 2011-06-27 15:10

      @Smaal: im not too sure...is there an opposite occupation to Robin hood?

      Wayne - 2011-06-27 15:12

      He will be working at SARS

      Wayne - 2011-06-27 15:12

      He will be working at SARS

      Smaal - 2011-06-27 15:14

      @happygolucky: Well Robin Zuma and his ANC men steal from everyone and give to themselves so surly there must be some opposite to that but me thinks that JZ might be over qualified for that position.

      Smaal - 2011-06-27 15:14

      @happygolucky: Well Robin Zuma and his ANC men steal from everyone and give to themselves so surly there must be some opposite to that but me thinks that JZ might be over qualified for that position.

      umlaut - 2011-06-27 15:17

      @smaal@@@----Yes he is--shower product adverts.

      umlaut - 2011-06-27 15:17

      @smaal@@@----Yes he is--shower product adverts.

      happygolucky - 2011-06-27 15:17

      hahaha, i was just about to say, i think his job is the opposite to Robin Hood already...steals from the poor and gives to the rich lol iom lost for words...perhaps an ACTUAL tea lady for Zille?

      happygolucky - 2011-06-27 15:17

      hahaha, i was just about to say, i think his job is the opposite to Robin Hood already...steals from the poor and gives to the rich lol iom lost for words...perhaps an ACTUAL tea lady for Zille?

      Eric West - 2011-06-27 15:23

      @ Smaal: with his fat pension, I doubt whether he would want another job.

      Eric West - 2011-06-27 15:23

      @ Smaal: with his fat pension, I doubt whether he would want another job.

      Francois - 2011-06-27 15:24

      He can take over from Sanex Kallis.

      Francois - 2011-06-27 15:24

      He can take over from Sanex Kallis.

      Mad Hatter - 2011-06-27 15:25

      Eventually the revolution must end as a state involved in continual revolution is one in anarchy. The conflicting idealogies of the alliance are coming home to roost in the vacuum of a unifying element ,the creation of which or lurking threat is being unveiled as myth and as such the scramblings for power and influence will continue as unity continues to unravel. Crisis for some , oppertunity for others but undoubtedly the alliance is at a cross roads, will it go supernova or manage to glue those ideological differences together somehow.

      Mad Hatter - 2011-06-27 15:25

      Eventually the revolution must end as a state involved in continual revolution is one in anarchy. The conflicting idealogies of the alliance are coming home to roost in the vacuum of a unifying element ,the creation of which or lurking threat is being unveiled as myth and as such the scramblings for power and influence will continue as unity continues to unravel. Crisis for some , oppertunity for others but undoubtedly the alliance is at a cross roads, will it go supernova or manage to glue those ideological differences together somehow.

      FaxM8 Fax - 2011-06-27 15:44

      Awesome idea , problem is I dont think there is a better replacement within in anc , the ones who will do a better job are filthy rich they dont care about politics anymore so who is better than these two morons ?

      FaxM8 Fax - 2011-06-27 15:44

      Awesome idea , problem is I dont think there is a better replacement within in anc , the ones who will do a better job are filthy rich they dont care about politics anymore so who is better than these two morons ?

      senkgisha - 2011-06-27 21:13

      @small.zuma will earn after all irrespective in top post or not...let's pray he steps down early so that the real men with guts can come and reprimand thelikes of Shivhambu!!!

      Jacques - 2011-06-28 09:07

      @Smaal. Is he even qualified for his current job?

      Frox - 2011-06-28 13:54

      @ Smaal: He can work in my garden

      PunkBuster - 2011-06-28 14:17

      Quite right, thats the only way... Its quite easy to read the dribble off a speach prepared for him earlier to make him sound like he has this country's best interests at heart. Rich coming from our president implecated in the arms deal fraud case with his shaik buddy... Funny how thats exactly what he say's that needs to stop (Greed)... Change starts at home...

      SiphoAllenHadebe - 2011-06-29 07:30

      Hallo and welcome on our beloved GRAVY TRAIN, thank you for riding the GRAVY TRAIN. The train will leave within the next few years or even a few months. As you all know by now, our destination is disaster heading toward Zimbabwe standards. Thank you for your support on our GRAVY TRAIN.

      Benny66 - 2011-06-29 11:21

      @Happygolucky. Robin Hood does not exist in South Africa! Do you mean "ROBbINg HOODlums?"

      grimbie1 - 2011-07-11 16:26

      @benny66.. na just plain robbing the hood

  • happygolucky - 2011-06-27 14:34

    "bemoaning ill-discipline, pre-maturely introducing key debates and the use of money to promote self-interest." ........and BEE

      paulf - 2011-06-27 15:10

      He was talking about himself here LOL. Use of money to promote self-interest, that is JZ.

      paulf - 2011-06-27 15:10

      He was talking about himself here LOL. Use of money to promote self-interest, that is JZ.

  • cmtha - 2011-06-27 14:37

    well said Zuma. it is easy the ANC needs to be able to control Julius Malema.

  • Caeser - 2011-06-27 14:37

    Wow! For once President Zuma - you have impressed me... Let's hope it is sincere, so sincere to the point that you can put the "Youth League" in its place. Viva Comrade Zuma Viva.

      tailormade - 2011-06-27 15:25

      Not really: he basically said the exact same thing earlier this year at the big ANC conference...."threatening" to punish those that step outside traditional ANC ways. He's just saying this to keep the alarmist happy...he won't act on it.

      tailormade - 2011-06-27 15:25

      Not really: he basically said the exact same thing earlier this year at the big ANC conference...."threatening" to punish those that step outside traditional ANC ways. He's just saying this to keep the alarmist happy...he won't act on it.

      onetickie - 2011-06-28 13:58

      JZ is a dickhead: too little far too late.

  • daaivark - 2011-06-27 14:38

    Took a while for the penny to drop. Oh yes, they don't drop, they go into pockets.

      splasher - 2011-06-27 15:10

      lol.

      splasher - 2011-06-27 15:10

      lol.

      SiphoAllenHadebe - 2011-06-29 06:53

      Daaivark you voted ANC too so don't criticize the ANC and the leaders now. Leave them alone you retarded disadvantaged white swine hound.

      MP3 - 2011-06-29 10:30

      @SiphoAllHadebe, really? You resort to cracking "yr mother" jokes? Sad.

      kaiersai - 2011-07-19 09:55

      "disadvantaged white" is pretty accurate

  • Pocketkings - 2011-06-27 14:40

    No sh1t Sherlock, why dont you all step down and hand power to the DA

      Silk24 - 2011-06-27 15:19

      Ja and let them mess the country up. no thnx, no apartheid 4 me

      Silk24 - 2011-06-27 15:19

      Ja and let them mess the country up. no thnx, no apartheid 4 me

      Riaan - 2011-06-27 15:41

      Silk24 I would expect an amoeba without any intellect to make such a stupid statement. No wonder our country is doomed.

      Riaan - 2011-06-27 15:41

      Silk24 I would expect an amoeba without any intellect to make such a stupid statement. No wonder our country is doomed.

      Werner - 2011-06-27 15:50

      @Silk24 Mate, for your own mental sanity, the preservation of what sanity we have left in our country, for the betterment of modern South African society, and for the growth of a movement to end corruption and poverty, you HAVE to rid yourself of that terrible thought of 'voting DA means apartheid comes back'. Honestly. How old are you? Have you ever spent any time pondering your country's current dilapidated state of affairs, the falling education standards, crime running riot, rife murder of innocent adults (and children) - under YOUR ANC - and thought to yourself - maybe, just maybe, my ANC isn't doing a good job after all. And really - the link between DA and apartheid is a point in case that you and your kin are just not mentally adept to forget and forgive the past and move on for the sake of everyone's wellbeing. 'The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step' - and you are unwilling, unable, to take that first step. YOU are the reason the ANC are still in power and YOU are the reason our otherwise fantastic country is falling into the hands of crooks and thieves. I wish, I really do wish, you could entertain the notion of change, the notion of improvement, the notion of freeing your mind from that thick skull to explore new and promising ideas and solutions. You and your kin are failing us all

      Werner - 2011-06-27 15:50

      @Silk24 Mate, for your own mental sanity, the preservation of what sanity we have left in our country, for the betterment of modern South African society, and for the growth of a movement to end corruption and poverty, you HAVE to rid yourself of that terrible thought of 'voting DA means apartheid comes back'. Honestly. How old are you? Have you ever spent any time pondering your country's current dilapidated state of affairs, the falling education standards, crime running riot, rife murder of innocent adults (and children) - under YOUR ANC - and thought to yourself - maybe, just maybe, my ANC isn't doing a good job after all. And really - the link between DA and apartheid is a point in case that you and your kin are just not mentally adept to forget and forgive the past and move on for the sake of everyone's wellbeing. 'The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step' - and you are unwilling, unable, to take that first step. YOU are the reason the ANC are still in power and YOU are the reason our otherwise fantastic country is falling into the hands of crooks and thieves. I wish, I really do wish, you could entertain the notion of change, the notion of improvement, the notion of freeing your mind from that thick skull to explore new and promising ideas and solutions. You and your kin are failing us all

      emile.marais - 2011-06-27 16:28

      Werner well said! But to point this out is to earn the ire of those who are either blind to the obvious or living in denial. The average South African is a fool of note.

      emile.marais - 2011-06-27 16:28

      Werner well said! But to point this out is to earn the ire of those who are either blind to the obvious or living in denial. The average South African is a fool of note.

      senkgisha - 2011-06-27 21:16

      That would never happen,oh by te way,wic planet are you and hopefully everyone one here is looking for the change but not the one you mentioned!!!

      Bidartbru - 2011-06-28 11:29

      Silk24, Apartheid is long gone man, get over yourself already.

      Frox - 2011-06-28 13:59

      @senkgisha: What?

      Yaseen - 2011-06-28 14:51

      U actually have to win an election, you cant steal it again.

  • Dal68 - 2011-06-27 14:42

    ANCYL is in command, Zuma has no further purpose.....now anarchy has a place in government

  • Deeteem - 2011-06-27 14:45

    In his words "at one point, you can't believe" !!

  • Slapper - 2011-06-27 14:47

    Whats New? The ANC is always in crisis, bouncing from one scandal to the next, making stupid decisions and having to backtrack, Buying Luxury cars instead of paying the bills, stealing from the coffers, etc, etc, etc. Morons.

  • TGSA - 2011-06-27 14:47

    I understand that the Zuma family has become quite wealthy over the last couple of years (yes, they can now pay for their own car washes...), so don't really understand the President's 'concern' about "the use of money to promote self-interest"?

  • Slingervel - 2011-06-27 14:48

    Mr Zuma, it sounds as if you are getting very nervous! It is too late now to speak up! Your protege Malema has alrady taken over the baton and it looks like you're history. November 2012 will see your exit, Sir!

      jeremy - 2011-06-27 14:58

      Somehow I don't think even the ANC would seriously back an uneducated 32 year old for president! It's evidently time for Zuma to go. Hopefully Tokyo will take over.....he's certainly the best of an increasingly bad bunch...

      jeremy - 2011-06-27 14:58

      Somehow I don't think even the ANC would seriously back an uneducated 32 year old for president! It's evidently time for Zuma to go. Hopefully Tokyo will take over.....he's certainly the best of an increasingly bad bunch...

      BrokenLink - 2011-06-27 15:13

      Tokyo or Manuel would make excellent leaders. They are capable of making 'unpopular' decisions in the short run to create a better economy. They think more than 15 minutes into the future. Malema`s power within the ANC is overestimated, he himself only plans to run for ANC leadership around 2025. He needs to work his way up through the party.

      BrokenLink - 2011-06-27 15:13

      Tokyo or Manuel would make excellent leaders. They are capable of making 'unpopular' decisions in the short run to create a better economy. They think more than 15 minutes into the future. Malema`s power within the ANC is overestimated, he himself only plans to run for ANC leadership around 2025. He needs to work his way up through the party.

      Gaanake - 2011-06-27 15:24

      Jeremy Jeremy Jeremy, I wanted to explain something to you, but stopped myself in time!

      Gaanake - 2011-06-27 15:24

      Jeremy Jeremy Jeremy, I wanted to explain something to you, but stopped myself in time!

      MandlaSithole - 2011-06-27 15:50

      Perhaps this man might make the cut with the right backing. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Moeletsi-The-President/205134709529957

      MandlaSithole - 2011-06-27 15:50

      Perhaps this man might make the cut with the right backing. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Moeletsi-The-President/205134709529957

      onetickie - 2011-06-28 17:07

      @Slingervel: jeez, all the "Mr", Sir and capital letters. Such respect for an a/hole! Takes one to recognize another? Am fully aware you are trying to be facetious but to display respect with titles & capital letters makes me think you're just a nut away from his thinking.

  • ANCockup - 2011-06-27 14:49

    Zuma do the right thing for the country and hand the reigns over to the whites.

      Nintendo - 2011-06-27 15:05

      retard!!!

      Nintendo - 2011-06-27 15:05

      retard!!!

      BrokenLink - 2011-06-27 15:14

      Thats just idiotic. Comments like that are why malema gets all the support from the uneducated masses.

      BrokenLink - 2011-06-27 15:14

      Thats just idiotic. Comments like that are why malema gets all the support from the uneducated masses.

      Wayne - 2011-06-27 15:16

      Not necessarily the whites but people like the DA that can govern and ensure equality amongst races

      Wayne - 2011-06-27 15:16

      Not necessarily the whites but people like the DA that can govern and ensure equality amongst races

      gizzy - 2011-06-27 15:17

      Retard and those 10 that like your comment!

      JohnyBlue - 2011-06-27 15:24

      Jeez, just hand power to someone who gives a hoot - they don't have to be white!! Immigrate please, I'll even pay your air fare...

      CraigColinRoyMcLeod - 2011-06-27 15:26

      I don't care what colour the ruling party is so long as they are competent, qualified to do the job, and have no interest in any company or are in no way affiliated to any business other than being a public servant.

      CraigColinRoyMcLeod - 2011-06-27 15:26

      I don't care what colour the ruling party is so long as they are competent, qualified to do the job, and have no interest in any company or are in no way affiliated to any business other than being a public servant.

      Totman - 2011-06-27 15:29

      ..and do what with SA? The problems will still be the same if not bigger. The only solution is all clear minded people in SA have to work together in taking control of the country and parties. Trying to correct and build. In the begin it will be a suffering and people will have to be controlled through strict law, but if the right things get done it will improve quickly and the people will see the reason for these decisions. The biggest hills will be opportunistically people like ANCYL and the negativeness of some whites, but I am sure that if it is a sincere effort the whites will become positive and take part while the ANCYL will have or to join, fight or disintegrate.

      Totman - 2011-06-27 15:29

      ..and do what with SA? The problems will still be the same if not bigger. The only solution is all clear minded people in SA have to work together in taking control of the country and parties. Trying to correct and build. In the begin it will be a suffering and people will have to be controlled through strict law, but if the right things get done it will improve quickly and the people will see the reason for these decisions. The biggest hills will be opportunistically people like ANCYL and the negativeness of some whites, but I am sure that if it is a sincere effort the whites will become positive and take part while the ANCYL will have or to join, fight or disintegrate.

      Charlie99 - 2011-06-27 15:31

      We are beyond the point of skin colour dude... white does not qualify you to be worse or better than any other.

      Charlie99 - 2011-06-27 15:31

      We are beyond the point of skin colour dude... white does not qualify you to be worse or better than any other.

      Vela Stardust - 2011-06-27 15:34

      Been there done that and still suffering the consequences. Still smarting from the broederbond crap. Not unlike the ANC's EE,AA and BEE. Hand the reins over to the DA. Rainbow party.

      Vela Stardust - 2011-06-27 15:34

      Been there done that and still suffering the consequences. Still smarting from the broederbond crap. Not unlike the ANC's EE,AA and BEE. Hand the reins over to the DA. Rainbow party.

      johan - 2011-06-27 15:42

      JUST PUT SOMEBODY INTO POWER THAT CAN SAVE OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY.

      johan - 2011-06-27 15:42

      JUST PUT SOMEBODY INTO POWER THAT CAN SAVE OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY.

      ANCockup - 2011-06-27 16:14

      @Vela Stardust So you are one of the morons that blames the current state of affairs on the past? The previous white government built this country, if it wasnt for them SA would have become a banana republic long long ago. To all of those who disagree with my comment please point out some or even one successfully black-governed country.....Im waiting retards.....

      senkgisha - 2011-06-27 21:19

      It's not about colour moron but the ability of the political party and as for this moment or oncoming 25 years,anc would be still ruling!!!

      Lauren - 2011-06-28 11:52

      ANCCockup, where is the successfully white run African country? Have you failed to notice the consequences of what happened in colonised countries such as SA? Success is in the eye of the beholder. You need to read up about Africa and its current state of affairs and you will find that there are numerous success stories, DESPITE all the odds. Go look at what is being done in Rwanda. Now, not in the past...before you start ranting about the genocide which took place there in the PAST.

  • Verbatim - 2011-06-27 14:50

    And the masses will still vote ANC, regardless of what their leader calls "clique-isms", or even how they rape the poor to pay for their own luxuries. The day will come when "they" will stop eating the bs they are being fed, and this place will either become a second libya or, we will have a strong opposition party that will govern this country with less corrupt people in office. We are a long way off im afraid, and untill then, be prepared to be screwed over by the politicians and their extended families.

      Sallie - 2011-06-27 15:17

      I they do have EXTENDED FAMILIES with huge hands and deep pockets.

      Sallie - 2011-06-27 15:17

      I they do have EXTENDED FAMILIES with huge hands and deep pockets.

      senkgisha - 2011-06-27 21:22

      Point taken and it's not easy for morons like Small to understand...i just feel sorry for retards like him!!!

  • McDaNife - 2011-06-27 14:50

    Not really being to the point, can really go back and say 'I didnt say so' with regards to utterance by Julius Malema. Should get to the point and say 'hey Julius you are facking things up every time you open your mouth'.

  • TheUgly - 2011-06-27 14:50

    Discipline? Just look at the waistlines of these politicians. What the heck do they know about discipline.

  • camelthief - 2011-06-27 14:51

    Is this first time he has spoken sense?

  • Kale - 2011-06-27 14:51

    As the ship sinks the rats all fight to get to the top.

  • mzz.martin - 2011-06-27 14:51

    Cde Leader, that is what leadership is about, taking those unpopular decisions. As a Leader you need to rise above all these tendencies. Yes the ANC is Crisis, we all have forgoten that people died for this revolution. We need to be focused on our Goal of building a better life for our people. Our Goal of creating a Non-Racial and Non-Sexist Country. Zuma is on the right TRACK.

      TheUgly - 2011-06-27 17:11

      Shut-up!

      TheUgly - 2011-06-27 17:11

      Shut-up!

  • JO-JO.S - 2011-06-27 14:52

    A little too late... Mr Zuma is starting to realise that puppet malema is out of control and ruining the chances of investors coming to assist our country! Love the fact that he mentioned that certain people can't call out for a revolution when they played no part in the initial situation - that one was just for you Julius! The only reason the 'youth' are jumping on the Julius train is because no one has come up with a better solution! Common sense: our education department needs a radical change so that these youths can be schooled, properly educated and thus taken off the streets! Julius is playing the role of the 'pied piper' and we all know how that story ended!

      makip - 2011-06-27 15:22

      i really dont care what JZ says, I struggle to take the man seriuosly after he fathered a child with Khozas daughter.He is the one who damaged the image of the movement.We the youth of SA have to decide who must lead us.Leadership of the the ANC must change.Kgalema Motlanthe for President! Juju keeps his job.JZ out!anc forever.viva

      makip - 2011-06-27 15:22

      i really dont care what JZ says, I struggle to take the man seriuosly after he fathered a child with Khozas daughter.He is the one who damaged the image of the movement.We the youth of SA have to decide who must lead us.Leadership of the the ANC must change.Kgalema Motlanthe for President! Juju keeps his job.JZ out!anc forever.viva

      Sallie - 2011-06-27 15:27

      And the father of the current education crisis (Kadar is Mal) is now been buried with State Honour. The repercussions of idiotic decision are now bearing fruit. That is how the ANC runs the country, change what was working well and blaming their failures on those who had nothing to do with it. “Kry vir julle pappie, suig daai toffie”

      Sallie - 2011-06-27 15:27

      And the father of the current education crisis (Kadar is Mal) is now been buried with State Honour. The repercussions of idiotic decision are now bearing fruit. That is how the ANC runs the country, change what was working well and blaming their failures on those who had nothing to do with it. “Kry vir julle pappie, suig daai toffie”

  • Bled_Dry - 2011-06-27 14:54

    Wow, and it only took him up to now to figure this out...

  • jeremy - 2011-06-27 14:55

    Maybe the problem is Zuma himself. If he showed some real leadership maybe the problems he's talking about would be dealt with. But he does nothing about Malema or Cosatu - or the other elements within the ANC all pulling in different directions. And maybe the reason he doesn't do anything is because all those different elements is because he's basically corrupt himself - and he knows the plug would be pulled on him if he tried to bring the others in line!

  • Born To Fish - 2011-06-27 14:56

    Hahahaahhahahahaha!!!! Idiots!!!!!!!! Just take Juju to some exotic island with one mine on it!

      Ripley - 2011-06-27 15:30

      Did you maybe mean "one minefield" on it ?

  • Sydney - 2011-06-27 14:57

    Too many revolutions and revolutionaries – No leaders or leadership. It takes very little for those leading the revolt to become the motivation for the next revolution...

  • TheUgly - 2011-06-27 14:57

    Ps - Have you guys seen this article in the LondonTimes (Please note that i'm just quoting): "South Africa is the only country in the world where affirmative action is in the favour of the majority who has complete political control. The fact that the political majority requires affirmative action to protect them against a 9% minority group is testament to a complete failure on their part to build their own wealth making structures, such that their only solution is to take it from others."

      gizzy - 2011-06-27 15:22

      I've read it in other overseas papers. And then they wonder why companies won't invest here!

      gizzy - 2011-06-27 15:22

      I've read it in other overseas papers. And then they wonder why companies won't invest here!

      Orcanda - 2011-06-27 16:10

      And the London Times said it just the way it is. An then the ANC corrupt government is still in denial and still blame the whites for their own failures. They cant hide behind apartheid anymore, the whole world start to see them for what they really are.

      Orcanda - 2011-06-27 16:10

      And the London Times said it just the way it is. An then the ANC corrupt government is still in denial and still blame the whites for their own failures. They cant hide behind apartheid anymore, the whole world start to see them for what they really are.

      senkgisha - 2011-06-27 21:26

      Yes we did,then what are you suggesting we do? Live like as Britis want to rule the whole worl.NO.They must first get their s###t in order prior coming to south africa.F@@@@@k them all!!!

  • Pickle - 2011-06-27 14:59

    Too little too late...

  • Henry - 2011-06-27 14:59

    The money issue a big thing? - says Zuma. He should look at his own two feet, the hypocrite. No wonder nobody listens to him.

      Janine - 2011-06-29 15:00

      He can't see his feet - he is too well fed!

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-06-27 15:04

    WTF are you saying ?!!! YOU had the b@lls to rape, now why don't you have the b@lls to say what you really mean, o' weak one ?!!!

  • Jeanette Abdeaux - 2011-06-27 15:05

    My Heavens, Mr Zuma, did you only realise this now ? Where have you been since you got elected President ?

      Wayne - 2011-06-27 15:18

      Finding wives of course

      Wayne - 2011-06-27 15:18

      Finding wives of course

      Orcanda - 2011-06-27 16:12

      Under a rock. stealing, raping and collecting wifes and making babies.

      Orcanda - 2011-06-27 16:12

      Under a rock. stealing, raping and collecting wifes and making babies.

      Janine - 2011-06-29 15:01

      Taking showers?

  • thabani.j.themba - 2011-06-27 15:05

    spot on mr president,no more quiet diplomacy show them that you are actually aware of this ill behaviour by some of these self proclaimed "revolutionaries" of our movement.

      gizzy - 2011-06-27 15:24

      He can't. He said one thing at the ANCYL conference, now another at COSATU meeting and it will be another at cabinet. The man must be exhausted watching his back. It never pays to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds. He would have learned that had he gone to school!

      gizzy - 2011-06-27 15:24

      He can't. He said one thing at the ANCYL conference, now another at COSATU meeting and it will be another at cabinet. The man must be exhausted watching his back. It never pays to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds. He would have learned that had he gone to school!

      Orcanda - 2011-06-27 16:13

      He speaks with a forked tongue. How the hell can anyone take him seriously

      Orcanda - 2011-06-27 16:13

      He speaks with a forked tongue. How the hell can anyone take him seriously

  • suspiciousme - 2011-06-27 15:05

    these people must stop their revolutionary tendencies and start making good on their promises then there won't be a crisis. The other tendency here is for the pot to be calling the kettle white

  • BOFFINBOB - 2011-06-27 15:05

    "These tendencies must be fought by all who still call themselves revolutionaries. We dont need reveloutionaries....We need visionaries & do'ers....Zuma.

      THE.SRG - 2011-06-27 15:30

      very much agreed...the revolution is so over,and im so sick of "tendencies"

      THE.SRG - 2011-06-27 15:30

      very much agreed...the revolution is so over,and im so sick of "tendencies"

  • grimbie1 - 2011-06-27 15:07

    They dont mind if they lose a few votes as they are big anyway.. I think nails it. As long as there is another party who is big enough to challenge the ANC and actually make the ANC accountable for the good they do then things will never change. They need a party to challenge them and make them work or they will lose the vote and then also the seat in government.

  • vangraan - 2011-06-27 15:07

    "He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones"

  • Intalladude Blogger - 2011-06-27 15:07

    "Our strength could become our weakness if we are not careful," he warned. Ahhhh...what strengths are we talking about here Mr President?

      Phaedioux - 2011-06-27 18:19

      Well... for one thing, they are excellenet breeders (even though the last thing we need are human breeding kennels); they have an 80% pool of mostly illiterate and uninformed supporters; They have 'nationalised' most of the State Coffers so that they have a very wealthy 'warchest', which helps to continue buying supporters. These nefarious deeds/acquisitions qualify as some sort of 'strength' I suppose?

      Phaedioux - 2011-06-27 18:20

      excellenet = excellent

      Phaedioux - 2011-06-27 18:20

      excellenet = excellent

      senkgisha - 2011-06-27 21:30

      Raping women,Corrupt friendsip,Getting tenders for the family members,driving fancy cars and lastly preaching contradction.

  • Phil K - 2011-06-27 15:08

    Political suicide 101.

  • splasher - 2011-06-27 15:09

    Dignity of the organisation???

  • Phaedioux - 2011-06-27 15:09

    Trying to find solutions to rectify the many problem areas that have been created since 1994. The solution is actually quite simple: Start all over from the beginning.- Get rid of all the the crooks and put professionals in to run the Govt. Depts., Parastatals/GOE's and Municipalities. Do away with cadre deployments. Reinstate constituency based elections at all 3 tiers of Government so that all the elected officials are held accountable by the communities that elected them. The cancer that the ANC has become has to be eradicated! - either from within so that they can return to their original noble intentions, or from without by voting in another political party. We have to somehow stop all the corruption which is now pandemic.

      BOFFINBOB - 2011-06-27 15:31

      Hi Phaed. Tell saywhat to pop in some time. Re comment. Good sense as always.

      BOFFINBOB - 2011-06-27 15:31

      Hi Phaed. Tell saywhat to pop in some time. Re comment. Good sense as always.

      Phaedioux - 2011-06-27 18:11

      Hi there @BOFFINBOB, I very seldom look in there now since it has become so anaesthetic. This site is more like what we were used to, except it is still very timid in comparison. @Crackerr is doing a stirling job recruiting for here.

      Phaedioux - 2011-06-27 18:11

      Hi there @BOFFINBOB, I very seldom look in there now since it has become so anaesthetic. This site is more like what we were used to, except it is still very timid in comparison. @Crackerr is doing a stirling job recruiting for here.

  • Johan - 2011-06-27 15:09

    ja ne ? Gaan ons nou vir Malema fire ?

  • Hackney - 2011-06-27 15:11

    Where be ye trolls now? Like Sean Connery once said: Old tigers, sensing the end are at their most fierce.

      Phaedioux - 2011-06-27 18:25

      Don't worry about the trolls, there is a contingent of 'Ogres' migrating here from Timeslive since it became anaesthetic and bunnyhugging - remember, Ogres outrank trolls and that is what these ogres will do. To the benefit of the erudite society who want for SA to truly prosper and not fall into a medieval hooligan state of disrepair.

      Phaedioux - 2011-06-27 18:25

      Don't worry about the trolls, there is a contingent of 'Ogres' migrating here from Timeslive since it became anaesthetic and bunnyhugging - remember, Ogres outrank trolls and that is what these ogres will do. To the benefit of the erudite society who want for SA to truly prosper and not fall into a medieval hooligan state of disrepair.

  • Allin - 2011-06-27 15:12

    Rich (excuse the pun!) coming from JZ "saying money was used to promote self-interest"! His arrogance is without limits!

  • Comic - 2011-06-27 15:13

    Just blame apartheid like they always do.

  • BOFFINBOB - 2011-06-27 15:13

    "These tendencies must be fought by all who still call themselves revolutionaries. " Typical...We dont need reveloutionaries.....We need visionaries & do'ers, who have the right work ethic ... Zuma ! Start appointing qualified White people to top positions in Government. Have you learnt nothing in 17 years ?

      gizzy - 2011-06-27 15:26

      There are many qualifeid black people as well. Why so racist?

      gizzy - 2011-06-27 15:26

      There are many qualifeid black people as well. Why so racist?

      BOFFINBOB - 2011-06-27 18:14

      Gizzy. No doubt. Why are they not being used in some government capacity ? Not racist @ all, simply stating a fact. So many qualified whites have been eagerly pushed aside @ the expense of unqualified cadres, who clearly have no clue. Is that not racist ?

      BOFFINBOB - 2011-06-27 18:14

      Gizzy. No doubt. Why are they not being used in some government capacity ? Not racist @ all, simply stating a fact. So many qualified whites have been eagerly pushed aside @ the expense of unqualified cadres, who clearly have no clue. Is that not racist ?

  • Oubaas - 2011-06-27 15:14

    ....so what did you expect you fat fart with the leadership example that you set.........Shame

  • Pfffft - 2011-06-27 15:14

    Why don't I trust a word he says? WENA!

  • Goose - 2011-06-27 15:16

    I think I may be developing a new found respect for our president. Well done President Zuma.

  • Newsferret - 2011-06-27 15:16

    Malema attacked with a powder puff!!

      Phaedioux - 2011-06-27 15:21

      That reminds me of a very famous political comment: "It is like being savaged by a sheep!".

      Phaedioux - 2011-06-27 15:21

      That reminds me of a very famous political comment: "It is like being savaged by a sheep!".

  • JewelZA - 2011-06-27 15:18

    Ah the African National Crisis. They've lurched from one crisis to another since they took power and inflicted untold misery and harm on the people. Seldom, if ever, do liberation movements make good governments. "Vote now, we'll sort out the problems later" is not a strategy and now the whole world knows that you can't even sort out problems in the alliance, let alone the country's manifest problems.

  • Airraid - 2011-06-27 15:18

    Not to mention your movement's president is illiterate.

  • courage22 - 2011-06-27 15:18

    This once great liberation movement has now become an employment agency, and the rot starts at the top Mr Zuma. You and your ilk have betrayed it's constituents. There is still hope if a president of Cyril Rhamaposa comes in....

      Wayne - 2011-06-27 15:20

      Someone like Mazibuko aka "Tea Lady" is of much better standard to lead a country.

      Wayne - 2011-06-27 15:20

      Someone like Mazibuko aka "Tea Lady" is of much better standard to lead a country.

  • kjac - 2011-06-27 15:20

    blah blah blah... JZ no one listens to you any more. It is a free for all within the ANC and it's alliance partners. Take decisive action and regain your self respect. Until then, this nation will not respect you.