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Zuma: We want more black bosses

2012-07-07 08:06

Johannesburg - Government's infrastructure development programmes would contribute to transformation, President Jacob Zuma said in Johannesburg on Friday evening.

"The infrastructure build programme is also a means to support broad-based empowerment.

"We want black people to go beyond being portfolio holders of 3% shares in this company, and 5% in that company. We want to see factories that are owned by black entrepreneurs."

He was speaking at the corporate update dinner of the Black Management Forum in Sandton, a glittering occasion bringing together corporate leaders.

Apartheid

The infrastructure development programme was designed to respond to "unacceptably high levels of unemployment and a moderate rate of economic growth and development".

South Africa under apartheid was characterised by under-development and the deliberate exclusion of the majority from economic activity.

"Despite, 18 years of democratic rule, this legacy is still evident and requires greater effort on the part of all stakeholders to overcome."

Zuma said government was aware of concerns by black business that "government does not always put its money where its mouth is when it comes to opening up opportunities for black people".

Government should therefore prioritise procuring from black business, in areas such as black accounting, legal and engineering firms.

"We have a duty to practice transformation and not only to talk about it as government."

Government also needed to pay service providers within a month, as failure to do so would be tantamount to sabotaging these companies, he said.

A new policy was being explored to force managers to comply with the 30-day deadline. Under the proposed scheme managers could face disciplinary proceedings if the accounts went unpaid.

BEE bill

Zuma said that on the legislative side government was working to ensure greater strides in transformation.

This included the broad-based black economic empowerment amendment bill, gazetted last year.

"The bill makes provisions for empowering the Special Investigating Unit to investigate all offences involving fronting or corruption committed by both the public and private sector with regard to the application of the Act and B-BBEE Codes of Good Practice."

Anyone found guilty of misrepresenting a company's B-BBEE status would be liable to severe penalties.

"Proposed penalties include imprisonment for a period not exceeding 10 years... Serious.

"It could also include a fine of 10% of that enterprise’s annual turnover... Even more serious," Zuma said, to hoots of laughter and applause.

Comments
  • anthonycharles.williams - 2012-07-07 08:14

    Y U dumb

      digger.dighead - 2012-07-09 01:59

      Yes we need more black bosses....quick let's make another law to force companies, because black people can't compete in the work place against whites. They don't stand a chance of being promoted on merit!! That is exactly what he and the ANC bunch are saying...if I was a black person I would be very pissed off and insulted. Because of laws like this no one will ever really respect a black person in charge, as the first thought will be they got the position because of their color. Pathetic.

      daniel.jacobs.3766 - 2012-07-09 08:55

      Yes, stop your attitude of entitlement and start your own businesses

      arthur.hugh - 2012-07-09 09:00

      If he wants more black bosses he should actually spend some money fixing and maintaining schools, deliver books on time, and basically do his job instead of buying 2bil jets the f'n moron.

      Mark - 2012-07-09 09:32

      And I want a better president, but I guess that there is an important life lesson in this for you and your retarded cronies, Mr. Zuma; we can't always have what we want.

      Freddie - 2012-07-09 10:18

      Yes, we want more qualified managers and politicians. That excludes you JZ and most of your cadres. Any company that relies on government for business is doomed with their non-payment of debts. Only tenderpreneurs benefit as they do not lay out cash on contracts.

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-07-09 16:41

      i agree with digger here...

      denise.labuschagne.54 - 2012-07-09 18:44

      hey yo... i painted my chair black today, he says he is ready 4 the game.. 1st thing on his list is to become president, and i personally think he will over take u mr zuma.. he sits on his 4arses every day! dat beats u i bet... but the real King will sit on this chair and legalize marijuana and make u my slave mr zuma to harvest my crops and get sticky finger tips... mmmmmmm, and ofcourse that will b ur dinner every day, till the day u see the light.. and all the puppets like you

      teboh.rapheal - 2012-07-31 11:43

      ANTHONYCHARLES.WILLIAMS only one thing can explain all this arguments here.if african people where extreamly firm and radical pushing aryans out of south africa.we would not be talking about the colour issue here.africa is the continent of authentic african people athropologically speaking.we are not supposed to be dragging with anybody in africa.but again some of our leaders where excessively human with aryans. allowing them to continue in africa after the atrocities commited in africa by them.you dont forgive aryans but you punish them sith the highyest severity.

      oom.koos.7 - 2012-07-31 12:11

      Is it April the 1st already....

  • mikenortje - 2012-07-07 08:17

    What happened to the social cohesion from 2 days ago, pure and simple in your face racism. Prez Zuma is a crowd pleaser plain and simple.

      fanie.essgee - 2012-07-07 09:21

      @ Chikunda, where in the world do you get the situation that the majority has to continuesly implement laws and change legislation to protect themselves, shows you weakness is their middle name, just want want want and do not or maybe cannot work for anything, it is sickening...

      john.doeslough - 2012-07-07 09:51

      I'd like to know what structures are still favouring whites chikunga? I'm a white male and have been turned down for sponsorship to study at a university because "i am white". The point is you can never build social cohesion if one race is being favoured over another...which is the basis for BEE. The current government policy is just the reverse of apartheid...no matter how you try to mask it, it is racism down to it's core

      Antebellum - 2012-07-07 10:07

      Chikunga, you say: "...majority of the population are poor not only by natural ways but by apartheid methods" How do you explain the rest of Africa then(where there was no appartheid)? The whole is africa is poor because of the same mentality... You want to take from someone else instead of creating your own. Do you think that these businesses were GIVEN to white people? Did it they just magically appear out of thin air? Why is it the responsibility of white people to GIVE you a highpaying job? And better yet, why don't you create your own? Thats is what everybody else on earth does. Instead of scheming on how to DEVIDE wealth, why dont you and your idiotic government focus on ways to CREATE wealth?

      john.doeslough - 2012-07-07 10:26

      Chikunga, you say wealthy whites use their funds to "twist" the goverment. Sorry, but that sounds like BULL! Did the ANC feed you that story so that you would vote for them? As antebellum.axiom points out, people that have high paying jobs or companies of their own are in that position because they worked hard for them. Not me, you or anyone else in this country has a right to STEAL that wealth because they feel they entitled to it.

      john.doeslough - 2012-07-07 10:50

      @chikunga, Liberia and Ethiopia are two African countries generally accepted as not having been colonized... just to answer you question. I hear Liberia is wonderful this time of the year...

      Marco - 2012-07-07 11:45

      the bottom line my fellow racists (of all colours) is that if things turn bad in this country we are ALL up to our necks in $hit. seems to me we can live together or die together . there is no middle ground. violence or starvation will put us in a hole equally effectively

      Rodney - 2012-07-07 12:14

      Chikunga, you're backing a losing argument here. Never mind the colonial countries, the point is this, in 18 years the ANC has singlehandedly destroyed a once thriving economy, SA used to be THE powerhouse in sub Saharan Africa, now it's on it's knees. Mugabe destroyed the Zim economy long ago, it used to export tons of maize, tabacco, sorghum etc. now it relies on handouts. How long has Kenya, Nigeria, Uganda to name a few, been out from under colonial rule? and yet the corruption continues unabated, the factional fighting continues, the military coups happen all too regularly. How much time is needed before anyone can say "xxxx" country has a growing and stable economy and the population is content? SA used to have a decent infrastructure, but it is collapsing, the roads are in an awful state, the electricity supplies are not adequate and haven't been for years, in spite of the previous government warning the ANC it would have to build more power stations, the shipping industry has left our shores. The ridiculous situation over the Swazi king, the ANC tell him to stop the corruption and frivolous spending on his part, when they are doing exactly the same damn thing, the rest of the world notices the nonsense and are thinking twice about investment. Do what the rest of the world does, get off your butt and build your business from scratch, stop expecting handouts for doing less than nothing.

      pisciotta - 2012-07-07 12:56

      Chikunga - take a lesson from the motto of a "large corporation" and "JUST DO IT". And stop blaming the past for your current laziness. Getting to the top is YOUR responsibility not the governments nor those who are already at the top (whatever in your mind you think that is). YOU need to "JUST DO IT" or stop bitchin, cause it makes you look inept and unworthy to hold a "bosses" role.

      pisciotta - 2012-07-07 13:10

      alicia.myburgh.65 - your comment is perhaps too challengeing for those who want to live on handouts. I share a similiar story to yours and get sick at those who can't figure it out for themselves. My SA wife's daughter was rejected from University (she has a 88% mark coming out of Matric), because she was NOT BLACK. We are looking now to provide education for her in the States (perhaps better for her). When I read how the educational measures in SA have been lowered to accomodate the "prior oppressed" and how non-Blacks with exceptional marks are refused admission in favor of White - I am convinced there is NO HOPE for SA. Not the way it is going. In 100 years it will be a bush again - just ripe for colonialist to "rinse and repeat" because the indigenous can not manage, even with all the help they have received from those they wish to kill.

      chikunga - 2012-07-07 14:06

      @alicia sory about your kids but do you know how many black children went through worse, you had money to buy tickets, they had none to eat, none to sent their children to school,none.your folks leading the country before 94 had even more serious government structure that discriminated against blacks

      mikenortje - 2012-07-07 14:28

      @ Chikunga, your reasoning is correct if you believe that race should be the deciding factor, which then will make you a racist (you just have to admit it and be honest). 20 year old kids today started school with there black peers, so why should they step back and allow the black kid to one day become a boss and not them. You can spin it anyway you want but AA / BEEE is a racist polcy - and yes I know it's legal, but racist none the less. Prez Zuma was berating the fact that Whites have control of the economy, again not a true fact, see this for a balanced view: http://www.fwdeklerk.org/cgi-bin/giga.cgi?cmd=cause_dir_news_item&cause_id=2137&news_id=115192&cat_id=1596 A consiquence of AA / BEE is that whites have started SME and are doing a very good job and making their SME succesful - for which they are then critisised as owning to much of the economy (google uninteneded results of AA - I think it was in Moneyweb) Then during the social cohesion debate whites are asked to be part of SA, yet we are excluded via AA / BEE - you cannot squeeze whites and expect them to sit and take it forever, especially if it is patently unfair.

      Clive - 2012-07-08 12:52

      Actually Richard and Chikunga, it is the ANC government, not white people, which is depriving the majority of black children of making something of their lives through its total failure to implement workable education policies - to say nothing of its grovelling before the obstructionist Strike And Don't Teach Union.

      balan.morgen - 2012-07-08 13:18

      Zuma is a nGologonyoga.

      antebellum.axiom - 2012-07-08 23:08

      Richard, are you getting paid by the ANC to write this nonsense? (according to your rediculous logic) white people are only successfull because they opressed someone else or recieved preferencial treatment. This argument falls on its face when your compare it to all other western countries(where there was no apartheid). Lets disect your lies. Lets start with this blatant one: "The rich, yes, because of Apartheid and 350 years of economic marginalisation" 350 years? Almost all the South African tribes were still independent untill the late 1800's. So please stop perpetuating this "350 years of opression" bullsh*t. And how could they have been economically marginalised if they had no concept of what an economy is, nor did they have any type of currency or any products of value(other than cattle). What should white people have done in your opinion(to have included them in this non existent economy)? They could not read or write. They had no concept of mathematics or even basic arithmatic. Without these things, modern civilizations and economies are impossible. Are you saying that it is the fault of white people that they never developed these skills(on their own)? We are being held responsible for their current failures. Should we be held resposible for the failures of their forefathers aswell? -Continued-

      merven.halo - 2012-07-08 23:40

      Maybe if the corrupt ANC cadres stop stealing all the tenders their brothers will have a chance to built their own companies also.

      merven.halo - 2012-07-08 23:45

      @chikunga : 'you are fond of exaggerating your points,how long did it take to develop europe,' Germany and 95% of Europa were destroyed during WW2, it took less than 20 years to get back to first world country status. Face the facts, it is your entitlement mindset that keeps Africa down, not whites, apartheid or colonialism.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-07-09 07:11

      Its time you pulled finger chikunga. Problem is you always wait for someone else to make things happen. Time to stand up and compete instead of just toyi toying and crying about how hard done by you have been. It is not the way to earn respect. White liberals have given you this mindset, stop listening to them. Their opinions are fueled by guilt, not logic.

      nasheenar - 2012-07-09 14:10

      @John.doeslough I went through a similar fate with Unisa but let me tell you we will always be successful no matter how many doors are closed in our faces. Indians and coloured people also get targeted make no mistake.

  • willie.wessels.90 - 2012-07-07 08:17

    lets see how long before they liquidate and not pay their suppliers.

      fussed.anderson - 2012-07-07 09:24

      Same thing happened to Arora gold mine and it was HIS famerly

      Sharon - 2012-07-07 09:47

      oh well,instead of having 10 million unemployed workers we will now have 10 million unemployed bosses

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-07 17:38

      Like that J Arthur Brown guy of Fidentia? What about the Madam Wendy Machanik? Arthur He set up a company, took black widows` pension and bought himself a luxurious lifestyle. What about the Auction Alliance guy? Corruption knows no colour racist South Africans :)

  • seymore.butt - 2012-07-07 08:19

    there is no magic wand to make bosses....you need to educate them first to be capable of thinking like bosses... else they will be like you who can only think of their own survival and not the others around them!

      koos.meyer.52 - 2012-07-07 10:11

      The current ANC education system is worse than Apartheid Bantu Education, they can't even deliver text books to these poor kids, what chance do they have? However, what very few realise it is part of the ANC srategy to keep the masses dumb, this way they have the vote till Jesus comes as Penishead himself once said.

  • RoryKlein - 2012-07-07 08:25

    I might as well close my doors and start to looking at which country I should immigrate too. There is no future for me or my children in this country when I read articles like this. I am sick of this! It will be 20 years since 1994 and our country is not getting any better .... WHY? because people can’t let go and carry on to live in the past and expect hand outs. I have to works twice as hard and work longer hours just to make ends meet, but I am seen as the privileged. WTF? Equality where? Or should I say when …. Wake up people before it is too late and we have nothing left.

      RoryKlein - 2012-07-07 09:24

      Well said Kenny. Education and hard work is the only way forward.

      TSR01 - 2012-07-07 12:10

      sika.ncamane, so now you're going to reverse the situation and take revenge on innocent people who had NOTHINNNNGGGG to do with the past?!?!?! People like you make me sick!! Fvcking retarded racist poephols!!

      Clive - 2012-07-08 13:04

      Chikunga: apartheid was wrong - finish and klaar - and anyone who still believes that black and brown people were not devastatingly disadvantaged by it has been living on another planet. However, consider this quote concerning affirmative action from the Washington Post, USA: "Holding someone to a different standard because of the colour of his skin - that's affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that's not racism, then nothing is." Two racist practices do not make non-racialism.

  • Karel du Toit - 2012-07-07 08:25

    Serious

  • Rowan Cranston - 2012-07-07 08:28

    IE: viva corruption!

  • Sibusiso - 2012-07-07 08:29

    Some people are still in denial of history and where black people are from here on news 24, blacks were only allowed to study up to standard 8 (grade 10) that is why the majority of them are uneducated. Mr president please focus on education first and the injustices of the past will take care of themselves, education is the only thing that will eradicate poverty from the black society. Only trust people that are competent with being big bosses. Quick black empowerment will only lead to Zimbabwe state

      Karel du Toit - 2012-07-07 08:30

      hear hear. Have a Bells

      RoryKlein - 2012-07-07 08:37

      Well Said

      Cassandra Eileen Olivier - 2012-07-07 08:38

      I absolutely agree

      Ian - 2012-07-07 08:42

      excellent comment, unfortunately there are too many bosses and not enough workers but they dont see it that way, they all want to be the big boss

      theo.schoeman.71 - 2012-07-07 08:50

      Sibusiso well said. We can't wish away the injustices of the past, but we can put a major effort into educating the people and then success will follow but currently the gorvenment and education system is failing the people dismaly. Mr Zuma is now saying all the right things to ensure voter success towards rhe end of the year. He failed this country big time in the past 4 - 5 years

      Muffin_man_can - 2012-07-07 08:50

      Very good comment Sibusiso! There is no easy road to lasting success! Study hard, work hard, it does not end.

      razz.tazz.9 - 2012-07-07 09:00

      Sibusiso, please stand for Presidency. We will all vote for you if that is your stance and motto.

      fanie.gerber.98 - 2012-07-07 09:19

      Well said Sibusio - just remember this lot chanted "liberation before education" for donkeys years - unfortunately that leaves you free but uneducated Further - virtually all the black guys I know that grew up during the previous governments reign have matric - no-one stopped them The more rural guys less so, but that was the same for rural whites as well

      Eben - 2012-07-07 09:32

      An intelligent mind has no refference to colour, well said Sibusiso. You are the country's future i will support!!!.

      KCorsar - 2012-07-07 09:58

      Well said, a sensible response, which highlights the wrongs of the past and where Government has failed the nation for so long. Other countries have FREE adult education programmes, to enable adults to elevate and grow their 'wealth' in life - true wealth comes through education.

      jeanlouis.indekeu - 2012-07-07 10:09

      100% I agree - I support the idea of more black bosses - BUT - they must be educated and competant ! NOT BEE stuff !!!

      Boy - 2012-07-07 10:40

      chikunga ...Another idiotic statement, keep going my little primate, soon we will reach ameoba iq-status...kwaaaa, kwaaa

      john.doeslough - 2012-07-07 13:16

      Well said Sibusiso but if the ANC allows the masses to be educated they know they stand a good chance of loosing votes. Education allows free thinking and the current government doesn't want that

      pisciotta - 2012-07-07 17:31

      Sibusiso your comment gathers support. Excellent post.

      Richard - 2012-07-07 20:11

      Sibusisi, focusing on education is very important. But I disagree with the part where you go on to say that the injustices of the past will then take care of itself. In the context of South Africa's past of Apartheid, and 350 years of economic marginalisation of blacks, without BEE, without affirmative action, the very same senior management in private sector companies (predominantly still white) will hire their own, and justify it on the basis that there is a "culture fit." Nowhere in the article did Pres Zuma say that a "quick fix" must be applied, or that incompetent blacks should be appointed to positions. Education and hard work is a given, but black people/black business still require opportunity to ensure transformation, which is the focus of the article....

      merven.halo - 2012-07-08 23:55

      Good idea in theory Sibusiso. But the black youths don't want to study. They grow up with a entitlement mindset. The ANC plan is actually very simple. They breed the entitlement mindset, when elections come they promise to feed the entitlement mindset. After elections nothing happens. It is a evil cycle that will never ends as long as the ANC is in charge.

      Sandy - 2012-07-09 10:46

      @Sibusiso....Ermmm....cough - then how did the likes of Patrice Motsepe do so well? By your definition he must be extremely corrupt to have got all his money - or did he actually get off his behind and work? It appears he managed to get educated at a supposedly 'whites only' university, so please explain?

  • kameeldoringnamibia - 2012-07-07 08:29

    Klomp swart mense het al jare terug hulle merk gemaak. HULLE WOU? Bosses is nie te koop,om te steel, om uit te deel nie. Jy moet werk daarvoor.

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-07-07 08:29

    Hmmm l am certain its going to be very funny when companies close down because they plainly refuse to meet your rediculous demands and many more will lose their jobs as a result. Very funny indeed!

  • Emmanuel - 2012-07-07 08:30

    Mmm... Seems to me that some people in South Africa pay Taxes to a Government so that MUCH more can be taken from Them by the SAME Government they pay taxes too.

  • Sibusiso - 2012-07-07 08:32

    It is practically impossible to fix the injustices of 100 years in just 18 years. Empower the people with education and the next generation of blacks will be bosses, you will see

      Karel du Toit - 2012-07-07 08:35

      but it is possible to destroy everything from the past 100 years with incompetent people in 18 years

      kameeldoringnamibia - 2012-07-07 08:38

      Remember to deliver school books.

      alon.fisher.752 - 2012-07-09 12:44

      Well said Sibusiso!!! If all our leaders thought like you, regardless of their skin colour we would'nt be sitting in this mess. But no they prefer to keep the masses ignorant and uneducated and hence dependant on them at election times than forgetting about them altogether after elections.

  • RAhul - 2012-07-07 08:33

    I don't care if they're purple; so long as these \bosses\ are competent. This government breeds mediocrity and it spins off on their support group. No logic; just do whatever and its because of Apartheid this and Apartheid that. They should be the solution. Not compounding the problem

  • SarcasticAgnostic - 2012-07-07 08:38

    And we, the taxpayers, want less corruption.

      razz.tazz.9 - 2012-07-07 09:01

      Disagree, not less corruption, NO CORRUPTION!!!

  • andrew.mckenzie.566 - 2012-07-07 08:40

    The past will not go away for all long as the Government creates divisions. In 18 years the only transformation seems to be into an inefficient corrupt abyss. His Exellency President Jacob Zuma (as titled by the BMF) contiunes to talk a far better game than he - and the Cadres play. Wise up JZ.

      Cassandra Eileen Olivier - 2012-07-07 08:49

      Zuma needs to let go of the past and bee is not going to help educating the people is

  • wesleywt - 2012-07-07 08:41

    We don't need more black bosses. We need more good bosses of every colour. What a moron.

  • Henk - 2012-07-07 08:43

    Says the man who does not want to educate them!

  • Charl - 2012-07-07 08:45

    racist, racist and racist.

      indianajohn - 2012-07-07 14:53

      "you got your positions as an inheritance from your grandparents" omg lol! Inheritance this, inheritance that. Most us of inherit nothing Xoli. And even if we did, it would run out pretty damn fast. That's what you don't understand. There is not nearly as much money as you think there is. It takes blood sweat and tears, daily, for decades. Until you familiarize yourself with this concept, you will fail. I worked for every penny I have. And no there's no shame in being a bank teller. There is shame in destroying property and demanding everything instead of working for it. Maybe if you stick to a job for more than 12 months, whether you like it or not, you'll start seeing the fruits of labour and persistence. Most of us can't afford to further our studies when we feel our job isn't "challenging enough". Do the job well then and move on up instead of running and trying to find another easy way. I would think that anyone who left his job at a bank after only one year, and then belittles a woman for being proud of her job for 12 years, is the one who needs to get off his not-very-high horse and start realising that the world is a difficult place to succeed in.

  • sika.ncamane - 2012-07-07 08:45

    Mr President as long as they are capable to run companies I have no problem with it. If they cannot, you need to put a white person with experience to be their deputy so they can learn. Its unfortunate that white people are up skilling their own in this way in the corporate environment.

      sika.ncamane - 2012-07-07 09:11

      Kenny, some black people need whites, because they were not given the opportunity to participate in the economy therefore they don't have experience. That's not rocket science.If Khulubuse and co had inputs from white managers or partners we would not have the situation they ate in now. So we need to learn from this. However education is key though.

      KCorsar - 2012-07-07 10:09

      A mentorship programme, there are many highly qualified, retired people (who aren't a threat to 'taking' jobs), who would willingly give of their time for a small return (try an increase in tax incentives) to help this country reach its potential. It is happening already, but there isn't enough drive to build such a programme. In the early '90's I worked in a bank that had such a programme in place; as a young white manager I mentored and trained young graduates - one later was promoted to be my boss, was I concerned not one bit, as he deserved the promotion on MERIT. But I suffered as a result, am I bitter, maybe a little, but not enough to spew hatred across pages and cry about injustice and bias. Frankly I am tired of the constant bashing of many white people who arent the 'architects of apartheid' and also lived within suppressed regime in many other ways. Looking back is'nt going fix the future, we need to look forward with new and clear vision, supported by direction provided by Government, but they also seem to lack the 'will' - why?

      Clive - 2012-07-08 15:55

      K Zuma was given the rights (by Govt) to manage Aurora Mining, even though he and his partners had no relevant experience. (Seems to me, by the way, that they went in only to strip the mines bare.) Hundreds of mostly black people went (and are still going) through immense suffering because of making black people "bosses" when they weren't up to it. But is this not exactly what Papa Z is asking for?

  • Cassandra Eileen Olivier - 2012-07-07 08:46

    Zuma just wants to put more of his cronies in power in doesn't care about the people he only cares about himself. Welcome to Zim

  • Ian - 2012-07-07 08:48

    Is this your feeble attempt in phishing for votes jacob, rather stick to food parcels and free sanitary pads, its more believable

      Lacrimose - 2012-07-07 08:54

      Similar cute soundbites heralded the municipal elections culminating in "vote now, we will solve the problems later". This time around we want to know more about HOW and WHEN.

  • thabojames.mohanoe - 2012-07-07 08:48

    u want those companies to colapse. ur nephew destroyed n left hundreds of blacks unemployed at that mining company. u also must step down before dis country colapses.

      Karel du Toit - 2012-07-07 08:50

      well said

      koos.meyer.52 - 2012-07-07 10:24

      Imagine the ANC running mines, farms and banks - they can't even deliver text books for God's sake! The top 1000 ANC members would loot the companies they nationalise and take 49 million people down the drain. However they would have Billions, ZANU-PF style. Why can't the masses see this? I forgot, the ANC keep them uneducated!!

      kwazi.mngomezulu.9 - 2012-07-09 11:55

      Zuma n his little pigs removed a president who had more power to make a more black people bosses. Maybe the first strategy to accomplish this dream is to remove himself from presidency.

  • Hermann - 2012-07-07 08:55

    Oh the racist is again admitting blacks are inferior and can not advance on their own but needs legislation to enable them to achieve. I hope the blacks realise this, especially the blacks disadvantaged by the ANC while the selected few benefit from nepotism.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-07 09:07

      You have deliberately twisted his words. “... Admitting blacks are inferior and cannoiot advance on their own?” By the way, had it not been for apartheid, would you have advanced on your own? If so, why was legislation needed to give you superior education and gutter education for a black counterpart? Why were you allowed to do anything you possibly could to advance in the corporate sector but a counterpart LIMITED to certain areas only? I can go and on and on. In short, shut up until you back your rubbish with facts. And you and other like~minded retards who cannot think beyond their noses can click the not like button until the cows home.

      chikunga - 2012-07-07 09:16

      thanks themba for enlighting Mr HermannH

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-07 09:19

      Even universities were ORDERED by the apartheid government how many black students they must allow to pass, the rest be failed and excluded to make provision for the cheap labour pool, which vocations they could be allowed to study. They had to comply or loose their grants! I just happen to have forgotten the name of the WITS Professor who made that revelation on Felicia's Mabuza~Suttle's show during the 90s. He was the Vice~chancellor ~ Prof Charlton or something.

      Tony Lapson - 2012-07-07 10:42

      I recall there being a big deal during the apartheid when the tribesmen cried that they did not want a white mans education system.

      chikunga - 2012-07-07 11:05

      dont worry @william the big brother wont delete your post, they like it. But to counter your opnion teh Europeans didnot bring wealthy here, they were actually looking for it(wealthy) but I give it to you their society was more advanced and had more knowledge on world systems than the indeginous people but still that does not justfy oppressing people for centuries if they accpeted we are equal beings like them.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-07 13:18

      It's very noble of you to shift the goal posts. Why are you changing the subject? Apartheid gave you superior education and inferior education to me. You were also given better opportunities while I was oppressed. Hell, I don't like Zuma but I like what he said

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-07 17:32

      Groot Krokodil, just go and read Verwoerd's statement when he closed missionary schools which were giving good quality education to blacks too, and enacted legislation which introduced inferior “Bantu” education and quality “Christian National” education for you. How old are you? Must I teach you everything?

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-07 21:03

      How do we abolish western influence genius?

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-07 21:09

      You suggested it. Surely you should have a formula? In fact, why don't you abolish it seeing that this is your idea?

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-07 21:12

      Naaah, sorry dude. You can leave on your own you know. This is a free country. Ask Huntley.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-07 21:16

      By the way, you can leave on your own and take whatever you brought along with, including the infrastructure which was built by black cheap labour while you sat under the tree barking orders.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-07 21:23

      By the way Groot Krokodil, I'm signing off. You can have all the field to yourself. Oh, before I go, I don't believe sh*** about your persecution. You were a conscript who maimed and killed in defence of apartheid. That's where your bitterness stems from ~ that it was all in vain especially now that yoiu have a dick-tator as your President and there's nothing you can do about it. My “western” glass of wine is waiting for me. Peace!

  • jakes.cakedregs - 2012-07-07 08:56

    We do not merely want Black bosses. We want COMPETENT Black bosses. Can the man not understand the flippen difference?

  • buzzardfrey - 2012-07-07 08:59

    Zuma was speaking his heart's content! I hope he will one day speak his mind's.

  • jakes.cakedregs - 2012-07-07 09:00

    We do not merely want Black bosses. We want COMPETENT Black bosses. Can't this man understand the flippen difference?

      raymond.abrahamse - 2012-07-07 09:36

      COMPETENCE and COMMON SENSE are two rare commodities in this country,starting from the top.We are dealing with a Goblin with no education and a VERY low IQ.

  • LekkePerd - 2012-07-07 09:02

    Go, train them- D.head

  • Teuneman - 2012-07-07 09:03

    South Africa's anthem should change to Paint it Black by The Rolling Stones. \no colors anymore I want them to turn black\.

      Teuneman - 2012-07-07 09:05

      Oh and everyone will remember the words! Lol

  • flysouth - 2012-07-07 09:04

    In a country where our laws allow anyone at all of whatever colour to start his own business of any sort without restriction, what is this buffoon talking about? Seems like a classic 'solution looking for a problem' scenario to me. No special concessions are required to anyone. However the labour laws and laws relating to bureaucratic demands on small business need to be eased greatly, right now SA is one of the most business-hostile places on the world. What the ANC will never realise since like all Communists they are wedded to the command-side economic model is that they need to get out of people's faces and allow people, black and white to do what needs to be done - but those people will decide what that needs to be, not government!

  • LekkePerd - 2012-07-07 09:05

    Zuma - This is not job creation, get more white people in management positions and your decipels will have eee jobs boss. Sorry bra, i cant see it any other way

  • buwaz - 2012-07-07 09:06

    Please mr president don't turn dis country to b like zimbabwe,let qualified ppl occupy higher position not based on colour,dis is rainbow nation dnt throw the vision of lithuli,mandela etc

  • karel.crous.3 - 2012-07-07 09:08

    HY IS 'N STUPIT D---- WAT ALWEER BESIG IS MET LIPSERVICE WANT SY POLITIEKE LOOPBAAN IS IN SY MOER. NET SOOS HULLE IN 'N HOEK IS HAAL HULLE APARTHEID OP DIT MAAK MY SIEK. PLAAS DAT HULLE VINGER TREK EN DIE ONDERWYS STANDAARDE VERHOOG NA WAAR DIT VOORHEEN WAS OM SO DOENDE GESKIKTE MENSE WAT OPGELEI KAN WORD OM BESTUURDERS TE WEES, TE KWEEK. DIE MICKEY MOUSE ONDERWYS WAT ONS DEESDAE HET OMDAT DAAR TE VEEL MORONE IN DIE SAMELEWING IS WAT MATRIEK MOET KRY ANDERS KAN HULLE NIE VERNIET OP STAATSKOSTE GAAN STUDEER NIE IS DIE GROOTSTE OORSAAK VAN ALLES. DAN DIE GRANTS ELKE DONNER WIE SE GESIG NIE WIT IS NIE STAAN IN 'N RY MET BAKHAND OM TE ONTVANG. VOOR HULLE NIE GELEER HET OM TE WERK VIR WAT HULLE WIL HE NIE, SAL TRANSFORMASIE NET 'N GEDAGTE VAN DIE ANC BLY. WANT AS HULLE DIT AFDWING GAAN DAAR NIE BESIGHEDE WEES WAT BELASTING BETAAL SODAT HULLE DIE KLOMP SLEG DONNERS SE GRANT KAN BETAAL NIE

      stolsie - 2012-07-31 14:00

      Dude... CAPS = Off mense met iets om waardevol om te sê hoef nie te skree nie.

  • marius.dutoit.58 - 2012-07-07 09:11

    The racist rhetoric and taking from the “haves” and giving it to the ”have-nots” to buy votes will systematically escalate. You ask why? The “have nots” are users of resources and cannot create any sustainable means of continuance of economic or even social up-liftment. They will use what they have taken until it is no more.

  • aubrey.christie - 2012-07-07 09:14

    Quite incredible the lengths a demigogue will go to garner votes, 10 years from now sa will be the same as zimbabwe.

      balan.morgen - 2012-07-08 13:29

      themba.thwala.98 wena lo ngologonyoga mfuti.

  • elmarie.viljoen.7 - 2012-07-07 09:15

    Firstly Mr. President, with no education people will not become entrepreneurs. Secondly your 'infrastructure development programme' is not working. Start realising it. Thirdly "Despite, 18 years of democratic rule, this legacy is still evident and requires greater effort on the part of all stakeholders to overcome." - People should start to realise that they should WORK to get to the top jobs, like every one else and stop expecting hand outs after 18 years.

      chikunga - 2012-07-07 09:27

      thats where you are mistaken. how many professors are really that wealthy or most of them are just average income earners or just slighlty above the average.hard work,ingeinuity,political structures that favours the disadvantaged and a strong will to achieve economically can make one achieve. unless you mean a different type of education because the one currently there only creates more labourers. we need enterpreneurs

      chikunga - 2012-07-07 09:38

      @william how about government structures and policies that seeks at least to moderate the impact of some apartheid policies on other races. is it that bad like most are saying it is

      chikunga - 2012-07-07 11:16

      I agree with you @william, its the dishonesty and arrogance with most here that infuriates us, the government is corrupt and failing in mot of its functionaries but a simple statement like "we still have a long way to go in moderating past injustices that were based on skin color" does not deserve the venomous response from the commentaries here. It makes one think its more than just that statement

  • paul.lotter - 2012-07-07 09:16

    It does not matter whether black people are the majority or the minority, there is always black economic empowerment and quotas to their benefit!! Example: in USA and England they are small minorities but still there are BEE laws; South Africa they are the majority and thus require BEE......does the world owe them something? Im not a racist but i am VERY confused

  • fanie.essgee - 2012-07-07 09:18

    Mr President, wghy do you not at least o and complete your secondary education, that alone might just give you the platform to see, that one does not always just get what one wants, and yes PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK FOR WHAT THEY WANT, and WORK being the opperative word.... oh my word, you are clueless and have lead this beautiful country further down te drain, go ahead, soon we will all starve side by side.....

  • gareth.west.5 - 2012-07-07 09:19

    Great, get them to start businesses.

  • gareth.west.5 - 2012-07-07 09:19

    Great, get them to start businesses.

  • morne.smuts.1 - 2012-07-07 09:21

    There is a reason bosses are where they are....Hard work, dedication to name a few,then along came this farce called BEE....

  • dlink011 - 2012-07-07 09:22

    Turn the rest of South Africa into Limpopo. Great idea buddy...

  • sekalf.nroc - 2012-07-07 09:22

    ...we need more black people who are qualified to occupy managerial position! Work for it!

  • karel.crous.3 - 2012-07-07 09:22

    NEE, DIS NET 'N ANDER FORM VAN GRANT DIE WAT HEELTEMAL STUPID EN LUI IS KRY GRANT, DIE WAT 'N BIETJIE VERSTAND HET EN DAREM DIE AFGEWATERDE MATRIEK GESLAAG HET KRY DIE BOSS JOBS. DIE FEIT VAN DIE SAAK IS DIE MENSE KAN NIE VIR HULLESELF DINK NIE, AS DAAR NIE 'N WITMENS IS WAT TOESIG HOU OOR SY WERK EN HOM DIE HEELTYD DRYF NA SUKSES NIE SAL 90% VAN HULLE NOOIT DAAR UITKOM NIE.

  • koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-07-07 09:25

    I read this article and it almost sounds like JZ does not know what is going on at ground level especially in his government and I don’t believe it for one second! Please Zuma, you must have seen what I see every day or are you just built from the ground up of BS. “It is African culture if one comes into money to bring the ones, friends and family also into money, else you will be frowned upon.” - This is a quote. This is African belief and in entrenched in the African culture. What do you expect will happen? I can assure you blood runs thick in these groups (bands) of thieves (until one falls out of favour of course) but you already know this don’t you? Tell me Zummer, how many of your governments books actually balance when you remove “account to balance all other accounts” journal entries? Strange how the words “more” “more” “more” features but not once the word “Quality”, “Knowledgeable” or “Reliable”. To a call doing business at 300% to 1000’s% inflated prices is not doing business. It’s called extortion and theft. You want to know why these businesses don’t last. It’s because of BEE! You cannot build solid business foundation based on the colour of your skin and friends in all the right places.

      chikunga - 2012-07-07 10:12

      where is the moderator to remove this post becuase I will respond to @koos and you will remove my post. how on earth do u equate african culture to corruption.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-07-07 10:23

      That was a quote and discusses on TV chikunga! I did not say that but I see it.

  • monique.jackson0 - 2012-07-07 09:28

    Don't know how we are meant to move on from apartheid when our president still talks about "whites" and "blacks!" Seriously.

  • cvanderscholtz - 2012-07-07 09:29

    Zuma why dont you go back and crawl under the rock that you came from.You are suppose to have seen how idiots behave.Give them 3 and 5% shares in companies.You really want this country to be like Transkei where all your people are running from because of poverty,get real this wont be the next Rhodesia.

      luvo.duba - 2012-07-07 12:44

      Lol.your comment won't change sh*t.hahaha

  • andriette.bergakker - 2012-07-07 09:33

    Positions must be filled by qualified people who are right for a job regardless of race. If a person is identified as a potential manager he should have the ability to lead, inspire and motivate his team and if needed, his employer should train him to be a successful manager (regardless of race). If you put a person in a position he is not qualified for, you set him up for failure and the only stats that will go up is your staff turnover. Government should focus on helping people to become self employed (becoming their own bosses) and identifying market needs to fill, which will help grow the economy and create jobs (which government is always promising).

      andriette.bergakker - 2012-07-07 10:01

      @ Madise: Firstly, it is clear that you were not taught any manners or just choose to ignore them. Secondly, where I work, most of the employees, management and executives are not white so what is your point? We all work together as a team because that is how your progress towards the future. Clearly you seem to be unhappy where you are so I suggest that you look for opportunities elsewhere (or create your own) where you can be happy and reach your potential. Being true to myself, I was taught to respect others. I choose to be a part of the solution and not complain and live for the past.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-07-07 10:14

      Yes Andriette that is exactly how it works but you have one thing wrong. There is no “staff turnover”. Government departments are “job engines” more resembling employment agenises then service departments. If there is a “challenge” the problem is not solved but rather more resource are thrown at the problem but the problem is never addressed while the “challenge” gets promoted or redeployed. You won’t believe how a section has gone from 2 people doing the job to 10 people specializing in coffee, cookies, passing the buck and reading newspaper while having a phone attached to their ears and as for the section being so “challenged” it doesn’t get anything done and what gets done is usually a very tedious and time consuming exercise. @paul: She is true because this is how government works. Would you believe that there are departments that does NOT employ any whites? In most departments white representivity has gone below national average and you can just imagine how the cANCer has perused this problem to correct it. I’m being sarcastic if you didn’t pick that up. But you know know it work.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-07-07 13:10

      @themba.thwala.98: And now you and your father puts our colour above everything else.... what will be your legacy?

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-07 14:13

      Koos, my legacy will be sending my kids to the best private schools I can afford in order to enable them to hopefully be judged on the basis of the content of their character, not the colour of their skin. In the process, I will hopefully contribute in reversing the legacy of your forefathers which enables just about every white person to see a black person and think incompetence, subhuman, etc~all the other wonderful thing some white people think when they look at us

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-07-08 20:13

      Your kid can get into any university and become a doctor with a 40% average while my kid with a 90% average does not get accepted. White doctor must pass with 90% black doctor with 50%. Nice legacy themba. That will show the world how good you are. P.S. I worked at Eskom, Anglo and within government. I don’t think incompetence. I KNOW incompetence.

  • altusvanzyl - 2012-07-07 09:34

    wtf im white, and im tired of this crap now. black black ek wil kots man

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-07-07 09:35

    How about government learning to run the country properly, using good governance and good business practices, without corruption and blatant waste and theft, and then, once it has learnt how to do that successfully, then it can dictate how businesses should be run. Governments elected spokesperson is not qualified to dictate how private enterprise should be run - darn, they can't even get the delivery of the schoolbooks right!

  • johann.serfontein - 2012-07-07 09:36

    How is using black accounting-, legal- and engineering firms going to help with unemployment??? Last time I checked unemployment amongst black lawyers, accountants and engineers was almost non-existant. Government is not focusing on the big problems. 60% of unemployed people are unskilled and thus unemployable. When is skills development and education going to get the attention it needs??

      luvo.duba - 2012-07-07 17:10

      The ONLY criticism that is constructive in all the other comments I've read from a witman.