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Zuma appoints inquiry into arms deal

2011-09-15 14:10

Johannesburg - A new commission of inquiry to investigate allegations of wrongdoing in the arms deal is to be appointed, President Jacob Zuma's office said on Thursday.

"The president will soon announce the terms of reference and the composition of the commission, including the time frames," Zuma's spokesperson Mac Maharaj said.

Zuma had requested Justice and Constitutional Development Minister Jeff Radebe to take the necessary steps to put this decision into effect, he said.

In 2009, legal proceedings were instituted in the Western Cape High Court asking the court to direct the president to appoint an independent judicial commission of inquiry into allegations of wrongdoing, or to require him to reconsider his refusal to do so.

Public interest


It later transpired that the Western Cape High Court was the wrong forum to hear the matter. An application was then brought in the Constitutional Court. The matter was set down for hearing on November 17.

Maharaj said Zuma assumed office when the matter was already pending in the courts of law.

"He had previously taken a view that since the matter was the subject of litigation in a court of law, he should allow the legal process to take its course," Maharaj said.

"However, he has since taken into account the various developments around this matter and also the fact that closure on this subject will be in the public interest."

Comments
  • 1SAIBn88 - 2011-09-15 14:12

    LoL! This is BIG

      Servaas - 2011-09-15 14:13

      Zuma appointing a team to investigate his hand in the deal? WoW...All evidence implicating him will just magically vanish.

      ChrisKhoza - 2011-09-15 14:19

      @Servaas, then it means we'll have to allow the arms deal fiasco to rest becasue all the South Africans implicated are in the ANC and the ANC is the government of day meaning that ANC will have to investigate itself. Which most people view it as joke.

      JMan - 2011-09-15 14:21

      Right after his (choice of) chief justice was appointed...? hhhmmmm....

      1nawty0 - 2011-09-15 14:22

      Hmmmm..when the Arms deal was approved he may not have benefited from it! THE benefit for South Africa could be huge.....!! if corruption is proved we could sue the arms dealers and get back the 70 Billion

      George - 2011-09-15 14:23

      Guys lets give Zuma some credit. At least he is trying

      John - 2011-09-15 14:26

      yup this is big,maybe setting juju up for his fall ,juju wont be able to bring this one up when he gets disiplined,might be wrong but i am hoping

      MaanDonkie - 2011-09-15 14:31

      Ja en in ander belangrike nuus van die dag....Sneeuwitjie en die sewe dwergies swem kaalgat in Benoni Lake.

      Stephan Janse van Vuuren - 2011-09-15 14:35

      It all depends how "independent" this inquiry will be. With Zuma doing the appointment, there is already a HUGE question mark.

      Coconut - 2011-09-15 14:40

      Most of the evidence if not ALL the evidence has already disappeared that is why showerhead has agreed to it. The request for the investigation has been made over and over again but this was never allowed as ALL those involved and who benefited had to make sure that every bit of evidence was destroyed. Let hope that a VERY crucial piece of evidence has been overlooked.

      Delusion - 2011-09-15 14:42

      No doubt the Prez will also decide which loyal deployed comrade cadres sheeple will serve (or lead) this commission. A folly paid for by my taxes... Save the trouble and time Dear Prez, publish the preordained conclusion before you start spending!

      beicime - 2011-09-15 14:47

      WoW !!!! What change? Is Malema after corruption in government circles?

      naromi@24.com - 2011-09-15 14:51

      it is only to investigate. He will do what he normally does with investigations -refer to latest rental agreement.

      Pikkie - 2011-09-15 14:52

      Jman. Right on the nail. Servaas. This is the real world. Stop dreaming man.You mos got plenty brains.

      Daniel - 2011-09-15 15:01

      SLIM VANG SY BAAS, LOL !

      DJI - 2011-09-15 15:02

      The KEY WORDS "The president will soon announce the terms of reference and the composition of the commission, including the time frames,"

      OuWitBooi - 2011-09-15 15:06

      Congratulations Mr. President. I find myself having all the negative thoughts already expressed here, but I have to keep an open heart and mind and believe this is a good thing. Coming hard on the heels of his hauling JM before a disciplinary committee I have to wonder what has caused this huge mind shift for Zuma. Perhaps he really has had a re-examination of his conscience and wants to be remembered as something other than the man who released Shabir Shaik and who reported having a shower to protect himself against HIV. In any of his recent overseas trips did he perhaps walk along the road to Damascus?

      ryan.frey1 - 2011-09-15 15:06

      I think this one is definatley respite against Juju. As Juju knows all the inside information this is disarming him against Zuma in is disciplinary hearing.

      Yellow Peril - 2011-09-15 15:21

      News 24 this is an April Fool Day joke, no?!

      Dick-Head - 2011-09-15 16:03

      I will also appoint my own team to inquire about something if i know i am guilty. And if they still find something I will help them like Keble was helped by Agliotti.........

      Phaedioux - 2011-09-15 16:04

      @Coconut - you are quite right! JZ has now 'got all his ducks in a row': the Scorpions have been got rid of; the Hawks are under political control; the NPA is 'in his pocket'; the Minister of Justice and Constitutional Development is 'his' appointment; the Chief Justice is 'his' appointment; enough time has passed for most of the evidence to have 'eroded'; enough of the 'old guard' have died for him to pass the blame to; No wonder it is only now that he has called for this Commission of Enquiry!

      mugu.eater - 2011-09-15 16:09

      The timing is too co-incidendal with Mal emma trial

      Dick-Head - 2011-09-15 16:11

      Yes Phaedioux, and now that everything is in order he can finnaly get rid of the story and show his inocence. Meanwhile most of SA know's the real truth.........

      DW - 2011-09-15 16:28

      Not sure if this is applicable. Could it be that if Juju wants to blow the whistle on anything they can say they cannot comment as it is "sub judice"? Does this apply in this case?

      King Cheetah - 2011-09-15 16:58

      HAHAHA!!! PEOPLEEEE ARE YOU THIS SILLY AND GULLIBLE TO BELIEVE THIS...LOL 1. JZ has just appointed his saviour in the Con Court LOL and 2.) Why the hell do you think they forced the NEW secrecy act and access to information legislation through parliament....HAHAHAH!!! We WILL NEVER know the truth. So why bother with it...sheesh!!!! Oh and NO 3. JuJu Malema faces NO sanction other than a verbal warning thats a FACT...Fu..k JZ has just made a public statement how good JuJu is for the Country and he will be a awesome leader..... LOL!!!

      cliffarc - 2011-09-15 16:59

      - This is a non event - no way Zuma would be doing this unless he and all the other culprits have covered their tracks. As always with this Anc there is a hidden agenda. If just one Anc thief goes to jail at the end of all this , I'll believe this is'nt just a charade.

      nic - 2011-09-15 17:34

      I am skeptical. Why would he do this if he is one of the main suspects. In fact it was proven in court that he accepted bribes from Shaik. So I recon he made sure all the evidence implicating him is long gone and now he is doing this to save face. Sorry, I'm not that gullible.

      jweer42 - 2011-09-15 20:29

      This is like Hitler appointing a task team to determine what happened to the Jews during the Holocaust.

      Anton - 2011-09-15 20:38

      He's had long enough to wipe all the evidence against him clean.

      Spyker May - 2011-09-15 21:12

      Gabriel: Have you ever heard of Harry Houdini? Well he wasn't like today's magicians who are only interested in television ratings. He was an artist. He could make an elephant disappear in the middle of a theater filled with people, and do you know how he did that? Misdirection. Stanley: What the f**k are you talking about? Gabriel: Misdirection. What the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes. SWORDFISH (2001 film)

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-09-15 21:55

      The following names will be REMOVED from the said investigation and WILL NOT BE REVEALED IN THE FINAL REPORT: 1) Mandela 2) Sisulu 3) Mbheki 4) Zuma 5) Modise 6) Sheik 7) Alec Irwin 8) Nyanda So the list goes on...n on...n on...

      The Wonderer - 2011-09-16 12:47

      If you ask me, ALL the evidence that points to Zuma's 783 corruption and fraud charges are missing...

  • TBOOZE - 2011-09-15 14:14

    waste of time and money , nothing will come out of this , why dont they use those scorpion finding?

      Organist-1 - 2011-09-15 14:45

      Ha ha ha ha ha . Have I got my dates wrong? This isn't April 1st is it? Or is this maybe just another wagon hitched onto the gravy train for some "duly appointed bootlickers" to earn a fat salary when we know that "they won't find anything" sham? How can a corrupt government investigate it's own corruption? Fortunately not everyone in this country were hatched out under an ostrich.

      Yellow Peril - 2011-09-15 15:17

      It might not be a waste of time. The youth league is threatening to spill the beans on high-ups in the ANC who are implicated in the Arms Deal. If they pass the Information bill then new information will be prevented from getting to the public, surely? Zuma is playing chess. Maybe he needs to circumvent any new info the Youth League will leak to the media.

      Mags_24 - 2011-09-15 15:59

      I think juju knows the states secrets and they might be worried that he will tell the tail if he is kicked from the ANC, zuma is trying to cover his and the ANC's asses with this.

  • Moron - 2011-09-15 14:15

    Clean and transparent government, not apartheid one with secret death squads...rule until the second coming of Christ. viva Zuma

      POLS_G - 2011-09-15 14:18

      Your name sums up the comment: moronic

      daaivark - 2011-09-15 14:19

      Oh my goodness. HA HA HA HA.

      RManne - 2011-09-15 14:21

      Thank you. Haven't had a laugh like that in a while and I REALLY needed it. Thank you.

      Jacques Jones - 2011-09-15 14:23

      clean- due to all the showers taken transparent - they show the world daily how f*cking stupid they are

      Slartibartfast - 2011-09-15 14:41

      Whaaa haa haa haaaa haaa!!! Oh MORON ... you are so funny!! Nearly took you seriously there for a second!!

      Yislaaik - 2011-09-15 14:45

      Moron, you meant to write stupid things didn't you? That's why you named yourself Moron in advance. I'm sure you have a secret laugh to yourself at what you say. I never give give you a thumbs down because I think you are too funny to be serious.

      WhiteAfricanTo - 2011-09-15 14:58

      Your name say it all............

      d2eguy - 2011-09-15 15:15

      @MORON ... you must be thankfull that breathing is a natural thing because if one had to think about breathing you would of dropped dead long ago as you are just to thick and retarded to think .

      Nkulekweni - 2011-09-15 16:03

      Why morom why? Is it because at your home or at your work you are starved of attention?

      CAD59 - 2011-09-15 17:22

      in your mouth...to keep it shut...moron

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-09-15 21:58

      Me thinks MORON is trying to get onto the Worlds Funniest COmedies list!!!

      charliewoo - 2011-09-16 14:13

      this is a dark goverment in more ways than one

  • Tembo - 2011-09-15 14:16

    I don't believe it. Wow

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-15 14:29

      Look at it this way - the ANC elections are coming up. He appointed the people to do the digging, so no doubt he made sure that they got a little extra for their efforts in not finding any incriminating evidence (burning it, blowing it up, what have you). So it's win win for him. They won't find anything (they were paid not to), so he won't be implicated, and he makes friends with all the other friends who are guilty, thereby securing some votes. It's brilliant, actually.

      Realbok - 2011-09-15 15:40

      good timing on the appointment of Chief Justice don't you think? Domino's, Domino's!!

  • TaSaqz - 2011-09-15 14:16

    How much do these 'commission of enquiry' cost us?

      Fanny Mc Pee - 2011-09-15 14:44

      He heard the word "commission" (commission of inquiry) and probably thought that he was entitled to get some. EntitleMUNT.

  • Ang - 2011-09-15 14:16

    Holy moly, that came out of left field?!?!?

  • reader4444@24.com - 2011-09-15 14:16

    How much did they pay him to launch the inquiry? He must have an agenda .... next we'll have to have an inquiry into why etc etc.

  • BRONZE - 2011-09-15 14:16

    WOW. Straight to the point journalism right there :)

  • daaivark - 2011-09-15 14:18

    Oh God, hold me down, I think my sides are splitting. And "more to come".... great stuff News24, wonderfully informative. Now who's going to chair the committee I wonder. Let's see. Who goes there. Wow, is it Mogoeng? Mr Zuma, you have missed your calling. A great future in stand-up for you.

      Servaas - 2011-09-15 14:20

      standup comedy that is...

  • kriskross - 2011-09-15 14:19

    WTF???

  • Doublepost - 2011-09-15 14:21

    Finding of the inquiry: Zuma is not guilty, Apartheid and Imperial Colonialists to blame! KThxBYE!

  • BryanJhb - 2011-09-15 14:21

    The big question is who will me members of the commission? Mo Shaik and the like?

      dot - 2011-09-15 17:20

      Mo shaiks it's schuster!

      Roche - 2011-09-15 17:37

      I think all three shaiks will head up the commission and recieve a heafty commission while dong it. They wll meet on the golf course to discuss the findings lol

  • Fred - 2011-09-15 14:22

    Is that it, who is to investigate, could it be the Hawks, or maybe a bunch of Zuma's mates, come on news24 this is not journalism.

  • JMan - 2011-09-15 14:22

    Right after his (choice of) chief justice was appointed...? hhhmmmm....

      MM - 2011-09-15 14:52

      the previous Chief Justice was also his choice!!!! So What???

  • Sharkbite - 2011-09-15 14:24

    No doubt the team will magically not find any evidence pointing to JZ. Wonder how much they're getting paid to find nothing.

  • pietdrivers - 2011-09-15 14:26

    ZUMA IS NEUTRALIZING HIS OPPONENTS FOR THE PRESEDENCY ! ! !

      Nkulekweni - 2011-09-15 16:08

      That could be the reason. We all know that he will come out of this one clean. You have to admire the guy. There seems to be a method in his madness. His goal, his sole goal is to stay in power. What he then does with that power is not for us tax payers to moan about. As long as the wives and kids make money. What a joke of a country.

  • Alex Dowding - 2011-09-15 14:26

    So I take it it's not going to be independent then :(

  • Thelma - 2011-09-15 14:27

    He will have to appoint somebody very close to him to protect himself from been exposed.

  • DABOSS247365 - 2011-09-15 14:28

    Good Lord, but we are an unhappy bunch on this forum... Never a thing we cannot poke holes at lol :)

      Raj Morar - 2011-09-15 18:55

      Best Comment i read in a long time

  • King Solomon - 2011-09-15 14:29

    Another excuse to deploy ANC cadres.

  • MuntuzaB - 2011-09-15 14:29

    JZ will appoint his cronies to also join the feeding trough. Then he will sit on the findings until thy kingdom come

  • Bantu - 2011-09-15 14:30

    First Moegoe Moegoe as Chief Justice, that's great move first cover your steps then appoint commission Ha ha

  • Andy - 2011-09-15 14:30

    hold tight.Hier kom KaK.

  • GBES - 2011-09-15 14:30

    Zuma did not score out of the Arms deal. His enemies did,and the Prez has decided to expose them,come what may. Its all about Manguang 2012 and the power struggle,between him and some other anc leaders.

      Nkulekweni - 2011-09-15 16:10

      GBES what you are saying makes sense.

  • IC1 - 2011-09-15 14:31

    WTF!???

  • wv - 2011-09-15 14:31

    One crook investigation the other, great!

  • Eland Eland - 2011-09-15 14:32

    Zuma will eventually find himself in jail, by his own action. He thinks he can outsmart the ‘third force’; this is the indication of his intellectual standing. The ANC under his administration is at its weakest, and the opposition are having a meal of it, due to ill and stupid actions taken by this moron. Liberation songs are banned, Internal DC, Arms deal enquiries, Thuli Madonsela’s reports, Orania and self determination by Afrikaners, poor election results etc. This moron is leading the ANC to the gutters, if I was the opposition, I would take full advantage and exploit these opportunities. If this moron is back for the 2nd term, the ANC will grind to its knees. The ANC must cleans itself, by spewing this moron out...

      Mlungisi.Chamane - 2011-09-15 16:31

      Who is this Moron u refering to? I hope u not refering to Mr President...

  • Etro99 - 2011-09-15 14:33

    Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttt?????????

  • bjay - 2011-09-15 14:34

    DAMMIT I wanted to be the first to comment

      bonkypants - 2011-09-15 14:47

      Fish are cold-blooded. The scientific name of the Goldfish, of course also cold-blooded, is Carassius auratus auratus and it is a freshwater fish in the family Cyprinidae of order Cypriniformes. Kept as pets, they are.

      Spaffy - 2011-09-15 14:52

      ???

      IC1 - 2011-09-15 15:45

      They say goldfish have a memory timespan of 3 seconds, is that true? :-)

      JMan - 2011-09-15 16:05

      @ IC1 - apparently not. The Myth busters trained a godlfish to find its way around a maze to get to food! Meaning it could remember the way...so - busted! ;)

      bonkypants - 2011-09-15 17:02

      @IC1 JMan is right. The Mythbusters did conduct an experiment and found the fishies to be most clever!

  • BryanJhb - 2011-09-15 14:34

    It would be appropriate to include somone like Helen Zille or Patricia de Lille on the Commission!

      Broloks - 2011-09-15 15:43

      Snowball's hope in hell!!!

  • PilgrimX - 2011-09-15 14:34

    I smell a beeg wet sewer rat. How can you appoint someone to investigate yourself?

      MM - 2011-09-15 14:55

      so who must appoint commissioners?? Zapiro? everywhere in the world the president appoint commissioners!!! Sept 11, Economic crisis etc!!! shooooo

      Badger - 2011-09-15 15:03

      Why not allowing the opposition or Patricia de lille to appoint the committee? I agree with Pilgrim X. There is obvious conflict of interest when considering zum zum's alleged involvement.

  • talkischeap - 2011-09-15 14:35

    I wonder if Zuma has a conscious. How does he sleep at night? Mr President do you think the people of South Africa are stupid? Remember what goes around comes around whether in this life or the other.

      Nkulekweni - 2011-09-15 16:12

      He is conscious but whether he has a conscience or not is open to discussion. Events would tend to suggest that he does not.

  • GT - 2011-09-15 14:35

    This is HUGE. Zuma is taking term 2 seriously and I think he understands that this is the one big thing he can act on. He was a MINOR player. After it all comes out, they will give and amnesty and life will go on.

  • derkus - 2011-09-15 14:37

    waste of more money

  • Gadafi007 - 2011-09-15 14:39

    hahhahahahahahaha appointing people to investigate yourself is Ayoba "Middle center " - in malema's voice

  • Anton - 2011-09-15 14:39

    Not really news until they define the terms of reference and who is on the commission. E.G the Shaik brothers looking in to why the submarines are broken is hardly an investigation.

  • Proffie - 2011-09-15 14:40

    They've had 10 years to ged rid of the evidence. Nice one there JZ, nice one. All traces disappeared, money safe in a Swiss bank acc. AWA, Africa Wins Again.

  • BryanJhb - 2011-09-15 14:41

    The commision should be headed by someone with international credibility such as Judge Richard Goldstone. The major political parties (ANC, DA, Cope & Inkatha) should appoint one commissioner each. There should also be commissioners from big business (Bobby Godsell possibly) and one from trade unions.

  • howardg - 2011-09-15 14:42

    Well done Mr Zuma. All of you eat your words

      Slartibartfast - 2011-09-15 14:48

      whaaaa haaa haa haa ha a !!! Good grief ... Nearly thought YOU were now being serious howardg!!! Goodness ... don't give m such big frights on a thursday afternoon!!! My poor heart!!

      bonkypants - 2011-09-15 14:52

      Don't count your chicks before blah blah blah.

  • I_Say - 2011-09-15 14:44

    - If he didn't appoint an enquiry people would b*tch about it... - When he does appoint an enquiry people b*tch about it.... mm, I suppose thats why some people will ALWAYS complain, like some people will ALWAYS vote ANC...

  • Sledgedarkwatch - 2011-09-15 14:45

    Ha Ha - Appointing Peter to check on Paul, that is useless. Appoint somebody non Biased to investigate ALL State / Cadre Tender Corruption, then Zuma you Name, Shame, Fire & Prosecute - That to me is Progress.

  • zanner@24.com - 2011-09-15 14:46

    So funny. So wolf is investigating the wrongdoing of wolf. Can only happen here.

  • Lorax - 2011-09-15 14:46

    'scuse me while I wet my pants with laughter. Is he going to allow himself to be tried for corruption, too? Don't think for a moment we've forgotten about that.

  • James - 2011-09-15 14:47

    Why bother, nothing will be found to implicate anyone. Hell, if they do find a someone, he will go to jail, be found terminally ill, get released by Zuma, go play golf and bash some reporter for REPORTING THE TRUTH!

  • beicime - 2011-09-15 14:47

    WoW !!!! What change? Is Malema after corruption in government circles?

      Yislaaik - 2011-09-15 14:52

      You must have read that Malema wants the corruption case re-opened. I think he is doing this because of Malema and no other reason. Zuma will have control if he does it himself, if Malema does, it will be out of his hands. You know Malema is not only blackmailing him but trying to expose him and get him convicted before the next election. Just as I wish he was jailed last time. But no, I wake up and the idiot president.

  • Yislaaik - 2011-09-15 14:47

    This is literally and figuratively shooting himself in the foot. He ordered plenty rounds of ammo in cased he missed

  • Darwinian - 2011-09-15 14:47

    I seriously need to spill my drink on someone....

  • henk v - 2011-09-15 14:48

    some one in zuma's family needs money!

  • henk v - 2011-09-15 14:48

    some one in zuma's family needs money!

  • bonkypants - 2011-09-15 14:49

    It feels like they keep on having these "arms deals investigations" over and over, perhaps until one day, when the investigations finds no evidence of any wrongdoing whatsoever.