Zuma cancels chief justice talks with Zille

2011-09-06 14:30

Cape Town - President Jacob Zuma has cancelled a meeting with DA leader Helen Zille to discuss the nomination of Judge Mogoeng Mogoeng as chief justice.

Zuma's spokesperson Mac Maharaj said on Tuesday that the president received Zille's submission on Monday afternoon, and if he needed more clarity on it, he would approach her.

"He is studying it. He is studying all the responses. At the moment it suffices. If he needs further clarity on it, he will turn to her."

Maharaj said Zuma would decide whether to appoint Mogoeng "in due course".

"All the parties have submitted their views. So has the Judicial Service Commission and so has Deputy Chief Justice Dikgang Moseneke."

Maharaj said Moseneke briefed Zuma in Pretoria.

"It is a great pity that the president has reneged on his commitment to discuss his appointment to the highest judicial office in the country. South Africa's judicial system will be poorer for it," said Zille.

DA’s concerns

She requested the meeting to discuss her submission on the Mogoeng's suitability for chief justice.

"I wanted the opportunity to explain the Democratic Alliance's concerns in detail, and to make a recommendation to the president that he withdraw his nomination and give serious consideration to other candidates," she said.

"Section 174 of the Constitution enjoins the president to seek the counsel of the Judicial Service Commission and consult with leaders of opposition parties when appointing a new chief justice."

Zille said this consultation had to be meaningful, premised on a willingness by the president to change his mind after consulting.

"That is why we sought this meeting so that we could debate the relative merits of his nominee, compared to what we believe to be other more suitable candidates."

Justice Minister Jeff Radebe told a routine security cluster media briefing earlier on Tuesday he was not aware Zuma had cancelled the scheduled meeting with Zille.

‘Robust’ grilling

"It is for the president now to complete the process of consultation. I read in the media that he is meeting with the leader of the DA, Madame Helen Zille, this evening. So after that engagement I'm sure the president will apply his mind as to what he has to decide."

Radebe described Mogoeng's two-day grilling by the JSC as "robust" and said he was in favour of broadcasting such interviews on television and radio.

"My personal view is that live broadcasts are something that we need to promote in South Africa, so that all South Africans can see the candidate that is being interviewed," Radebe said.

"Especially in this instance where prior to the interview there has been a lot of media reports about the suitability of Justice Mogoeng. I think he has had his day on Saturday and Sunday, and I think the results of that from the JSC indicate what has happened."

The minister later said this remark should not be read as confirmation on his part of media reports that the members of the JSC had voted 16 to seven in favour of appointing Mogoeng.

He said he was just "an ordinary member of the JSC" and the passing on of the results was being handled by Moseneke.

  • clayton.bezuidenhout - 2011-09-06 14:38

    I think he was scared Hellen Zille would make too much sense.

      Voyager - 2011-09-06 14:54

      I think he's just plain scared of Zille.

      djmilano.26 - 2011-09-06 14:55

      Better than the JSC ?

      prev-ABUSED - 2011-09-06 15:01

      Yha good move Mr president. Zille should respect that office and not pop in any time she wants. tell her to speak to Malema about this.

      IC1 - 2011-09-06 15:06

      The problem she's 1, the madam is going to shout him, eish! Bloody chop

      ReThan - 2011-09-06 15:10

      Hahaha brain against a sponge, who are we kidding here?

      MojoBa - 2011-09-06 15:17

      He is scared that he won't understand her big words without having someone explain them first.

      Fred - 2011-09-06 16:03

      I think he fancies the idea of being a dictator too much. After all, all his buddies get away it.

      John - 2011-09-06 16:13

      @ReThan, not even a sponge cause a sponge can absorb, cant see the matter between his ears doing that

      John - 2011-09-06 16:15

      @prev-abused, with the cr@p that comes out of your finger tips i am highly supprised that you have not been post abused

      farmworker - 2011-09-06 16:24

      If I was him I would also cancel it, I mean the President he still have at least two other outstanding reports that need to be studied.

      Meanleader - 2011-09-06 17:10

      Zoomer can't even read , so how the hell is the little goat heard going to study anything ....he is illiterate ...this much is glaringly apparrent .....!!!!

      settled - 2011-09-06 17:56

      Yep..and have you noticed Zille has more followers on twitter than the president. It is so obvious he does not tweet himself and even if he did, there is no personal interaction..Then you look at Zille's tweets..So personal and in touch with us folks..Ai ai ai..How much easier do we still have to make it for the not so UNDERSTANDING ones that She is a HUGE THREAT to this government.

      Sheda Hab - 2011-09-06 19:45

      @prev-ABUSED shame from previously abused to currently dim witted.....things are really looking bad for you.

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-06 20:23

      Zille asks to meet the President on Monday and she expects that to be done on Tuesday. Who does she think she is?

      Chibuli - 2011-09-06 22:10

      @myancmyfutur, with comments like that you have no future, twit! Can't you understand just how stupid you are?

      Netherlander - 2011-09-07 03:52

      I see the Pro-Zuma TROLLS are back! Please understand, Mrs Zille follows PROTOCOL..She MAKES APPOINTMENTS in advance, and follows thru.... unlike the ANC, they CANCELLED on the last minute, due to the fact that their President can only speak in 3 word sentences! Shame!

      Mike - 2011-09-07 08:04

      @FRed - more like a dick-tator!

      Wayne - 2011-09-07 09:23

      I was just going to say...Zuma knows he has to have all his ducks in a row when he deals with Zille. She is way more intelligent than him so he needs to know his stuff.

  • daaivark - 2011-09-06 14:39

    Mac, you really disappoint. You have devolved into a lackey and don't even have the guts to refuse to carry this most distressing message to Zille. Worse, you actually justify it. Shame on you and GREATER SHAME ON YOU his excellency Mr Zuma! Why not come straight out and tell the country to f**k off. It's clearly what you think.

      50something - 2011-09-06 17:02

      Mac is looking after his pension. Zuma couldn't ask for a better lap dog.

      Meanleader - 2011-09-06 17:08

      Yahhhoooo .....a meaningfull comment at last you can apply your mind when you want hey Vark .

      Wizard101 - 2011-09-06 18:24

      @50something dog or dancer?

      Ryan Tunney - 2011-09-07 06:24

      Zuma tells the country to f**k off every day....

      nn.prv - 2011-09-07 07:47

      Amazing what some minds think or do they?. The right to opinion after all

      Wayne - 2011-09-07 09:26

      Mac is doing what anyone in his genetic pool would do...saving his own skin.

  • abg100 - 2011-09-06 14:43

    Zuma does a lot of "studying" but it doesnt seem to help. Hes obviously a VERY slow learner as no matter how long he studies all of his little reports he still doesnt get the gist of what its about! Another excuse for not providing a democratic approach to another anc "inhouse" job!!!!!!!

      Natand - 2011-09-06 15:40

      Just like he's "studying" the police report. Funny how quiet thats gone since the Malema issue!

      Green Oaks - 2011-09-06 15:50

      He can't be "studying" anything. He can't read !!

      chan chan - 2011-09-06 16:14

      zuma is basicly blind !! how can he read, have u seen how big the font is on his speech cards ?? zuma doesnt study !! wat a joke

  • Unskinny Bob - 2011-09-06 14:48

    No surprise. Zuma pussies out every time Zille wants a face-to-face.

      Voyager - 2011-09-06 14:55

      Yep - he's petrified of her. Weakling!

      MaanDonkie - 2011-09-06 14:57

      Bob you know why.....she can read and write!

      daaivark - 2011-09-06 14:59


      Ingie - 2011-09-06 15:37

      And she can dance

      tommy 2 - 2011-09-06 20:54

      He is scared of the nightmares he might have from looking into that face.

      Wotzizname - 2011-09-07 08:47

      For a man who's fathered so many kids he certainly doesn't have any balls left! Coward hiding with his tail between his legs in fear of "The Madam!"

  • zulufox - 2011-09-06 14:51

    zille can go and drown... until she wins national elections... if ever!

      MaanDonkie - 2011-09-06 15:04

      She might never win elections because her electorate are informed, intellectual individuals, unlike the electorate of your beloved goat herder who are influenced at election time by the ruling party handing out food parcels to the millions of gullable illerates. So you see unfortunately its a numbers game and the only ones who will eventually drown are those idiots who vote for AN Cancer.

      Ingie - 2011-09-06 15:38

      One word for you PIG even that is too nice and I should not associate you with an animal as they are too nice

      Dazbo - 2011-09-06 15:55

      Zulufox...Be careful what you wish for ! Events over the past couple of weeks, which have seen the ANCYL pitted against the ANC, might well fragment party support to the extent that the DA might be seen, by some, as a preferrable option. Stranger things have happened in this crazy world of ours....

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-09-06 16:21

      Yes Zulufox. Thanks to Malema's spoutings of "making babies is a revolutionary thing", there will be even more poor, uninformed, unemployed, criminals voting for the ANC. All of whom the taxpayer must fund. It is sickening.

      50something - 2011-09-06 17:05

      Zulu - it may be sooner than you think

      Agwambo - 2011-09-06 18:21

      Don't talk to useless minority leaders Mr Prez, they must spend most of their time campaigning than meet you. If they want, they should meet their tea-girls like Lindiwe Mazibuko and his cahoots on this forum

      CPII - 2011-09-06 18:26

      Just maybe she will dear fox. Methinks that the ANC is extremely scared of Juju. He may just split the ANC....60:40, if I may hazard a guess. The ANC won 60% in the last elections. That will give Juju 36%...and the old ANC 24%. Now THAT will give Zille a damn good chance of being the next government....that is, if SA will allow such an outcome hhhmmmm...

      Wizard101 - 2011-09-06 18:30

      ...and then your pc will be taken away from you because you are a thread to

      mmargot1 - 2011-09-07 09:20

      if the DA intimidated as the ANC does the DA would win also.... the difference is that they DA do everything above board and don't threaten voters with their ancestral crap.

      Freddy - 2011-09-07 09:22

      Well said ZuluFox!!! Haters can say all they like but as of the present Zuma is the The President. Like it or not! DA has made its submissions and Zuma must go through it and apply his mind, whats wrong with that? Consultations with opposition parties does not mean they can superimpose their preferred candidate on the President. I f i didnt know better i would say they want Moseneke because he spoke against the ANC; its an open secret. But then again, Opposition will always be Opposition, and it own agenda comes first.And to all you Zille symphathisers and DA enthusiasts here on this forum get it through your thick heads that Zille is no one 's President. She must wait for her chance if ever it will come but untill then all your propaganda here on the forum are in utter vain!

  • Prof - 2011-09-06 14:52

    The constitution allows him to choose the judge. Zille won't change his mind.

      daaivark - 2011-09-06 15:00

      Unfortunately this is quite correct. A spot of PR would have been welcome though, instead of Mac's pathetic kowtowing.

      Peg-Leg-Sven - 2011-09-06 20:23

      @Prof, only after extensive consultation with ALL Political Parties. I do not recall that he has actually consulted with anyone, but has been studying their submissions. That is not consulting, as consulting means having a meaningful debate, I am sure that whoever he appoints in this manner will be open to a Constitutional Court challenge, which will be without the Judge that that the President appoints in this way.

      Mukuru - 2011-09-07 11:37

      Ok Mr Pres re-arrange the meeting. Drool as she talks to you then appoint your main Man. U still have my vote my Chana's vote and the other vote. Let's keep on selling them the illusion of a DA led SA.

  • letsee - 2011-09-06 14:53

    Zuma is affraid to discuss what he cannot defend but it is understandable since Zuma is not a president like those in successful countries. His office states that he needs more clarification... WHAT A JOKE!!!

      S.A.Composer - 2011-09-07 07:33

      What more clarification does one need to know that someone who is very clearly unsuitable for the job is constitutionally NOT suitable for the job! It's fact that Mogoeng is homophobic! Where does that leave the entire LGBTI community of South Africa? Must we just sit back and accept that the new big boss of the very court that is supposed to protect us hates us? F#%* that! We Will fight to be protected!

  • djmilano.26 - 2011-09-06 14:55

    Good the JSC approved Mogoeng`s appointment so whats wrong with the DA......

      Dougalan - 2011-09-06 15:14

      djmilano - in case you haven't realised - the ANC is busy rigging the justice system, so the ANC can continue to get away with corruption and laws that prevent its exposure. Tell me, do you not see that?

      tailormade - 2011-09-06 17:10

      FYI genius: The due process indicates that he has to consult with ALL opposition parties in parliament, all the written submissions & the JSC report before making his final decisions. It's therefore not unheard of for the DA to request a meeting to discuss the matter. You don't even know how the process works, yet you justify it to yourself to give such a misplaced opinion....

      Wizard101 - 2011-09-06 18:32

      @ Dougalan he can't see because his head is too deep in malemas arse

  • Sambok - 2011-09-06 14:57

    If Zuma cannot change the Constitution he will appoint a moegoe who will interpret the Constitution to suit the ANC. So to all the dumb people in SA who believed the Constitution will protect you: You are screwed!

  • Eric - 2011-09-06 15:00

    Eurocentric.It may be true that some white people benefitted from apartheid, but have you considered this.During apartheid it was the white peoples taxes that built this country.So why shouldn't they have benefitted from the system?

  • GerryC - 2011-09-06 15:02

    The president must now apply his mind - that has got to be the most moronic statement of the year, he has no mind.

      OZNOB - 2011-09-06 15:44

      the president believes that after unprotected sex with someone with hiv all you have to do is have a shower magoe believes that if you drag a woman behind a car is not cruelty i think these two are perfectly suited for each other as both are amoral

      Ozymandios - 2011-09-06 15:55

      Gerry that is one of the funiest replies on this blog for the past 5 years.I personally think he has not read a single word of any written document that has been presented to him . He has made his mind up and we can all whistle Dixe through our eardrums, and it won't change a single thing out there. That dude is the main Judge now and until he dies or resigns or comes to the end of his tenure that's our lot. Same with the Info Bill. Its going through and I wish I could, just for once, just see such a draconian law get squashed I don't see much hope for it not being implemented lock, stock and barrel; no matter what we might protest about. Its called African Democracy. What the Chief decides on today is law. If he wants to change it tomorrow then that is his democratic right. Democracy is a word that is quickly grasped onto in Africa to get power and once that power is there, then it is replaced by African Democracy. So you can send Zuma all the reports you want, all the documents you want but his mind is made up and he will never allow himself to show weakness and retract his decision. A Chief does not do that!!!!!!

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-09-06 16:22

      @OZNOB: Both of them also deserve a noose around their necks.

      Netherlander - 2011-09-07 04:03

      Anyone noticed since this Malema and Moegoe thingy.... the WHOLE BHEKI CELE SAGA has gone DEAD QUIET!!!! Still TRYING TO FIND HIS MIND, to get it AROUND THAT ONE!!!!

  • IC1 - 2011-09-06 15:05

    Eish, he is scared of the madam LOL, soft(o(k

  • zulufox - 2011-09-06 15:07

    there was not longer need for 'talks' zille spoke to the media, her views are known to Zuma...

      Agwambo - 2011-09-06 18:16

      And why must our president talk to losers? Let her go and address people in Orania

      Wizard101 - 2011-09-06 18:34

      Because you two poepols are too stupid for big words

      Charles Kane - 2011-09-07 08:46

      Because, Agwambo, that is how democracy works. Everyone get's represented. This is a good thing, because it means that nobody can wield absolute power over another. I will NEVER understand how people who were oppressed for so many years could have such little regard for the very democratic principles we fought for!

  • Bruce Fox - 2011-09-06 15:10

    Im probably missing something but how can the judiciary be politically independant if the president is appointing is appointing the chief justice? Seriously, thats whats written in the constitution? "one of the best constitutions in the world"?

      IC1 - 2011-09-06 15:17

      The crafting of this country's constitution was a marketing exercise, the ANC could give a rats ass for it, unless they are on the receiving side of some bad publicity, frikkin A$$HOLES

      Alqualonde - 2011-09-06 15:21

      Most constitutions have this flaw unfortunately. The old Scottish method of appointing judges was excellent. All the advocates got together and decided who should be appointed. As Scots they were of course motivated by money so they generally appointed the highest earning advocates, which meant more money for those not appointed. I am not sure if the nominee could turn down the appointment. It did mean that the best were always nominated!

  • farmworker - 2011-09-06 15:18

    I am sure Mr. President would now feel like he is in Matric, He has been studying quite a number of reports recently... Is the exam around the corner or what?

      IC1 - 2011-09-06 15:21


      frankm - 2011-09-06 15:31

      Matric? he has got to get past grade 5 first

      Wizard101 - 2011-09-06 18:34

      Farmworkers eyes opened at last

  • Brad - 2011-09-06 15:20

    Eurocentric, I actually find your statements laughable. You wanted Apartheid banished, but now you want it instituted again. By your logic (or lack of it), the Germans should still be punished for what the nazis did; the English should be punished for what they did to the Scots; blah blah fishpaste! Isn't it the right thing to move on and not continue in a circle. Yes, you have certainly been OPPRESSED, but you can't exactly build a nation by going full circle and continuing the circle of Apartheid in another form. Do the Scots attack the English for past injustices and years of oppression? No, they formed the UNITED Kingdom and built their nation into one of the world's best and most powerful. Sadly, you choose to ignore the benefits that Europeans have brought to this continent and to this country. You are angry, but need to be logical in this! What exactly would you like from the whites? Should they just hand everything over to you? Do you not for one minute believe that, they too, have worked hard for what they have? Once everything is handed over to you, what then? Have you considered what will happen thereafter? What will you do? Build the country, or go back to wearing animal skins and hunting animals? Think ahead, buddy - THINK AHEAD!!!

      daaivark - 2011-09-06 15:24

      He/she is certainly one of the more verbose airheads on this forum.

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-06 15:48

      Brad Brad Brad, *shakes head in dismay*, you actually expect them to even for a second think that we worked hard for what we have?? Really? You think they understand that concept (notice, by "they" I am discussing people like Eurocentric)? Work, what's that? Didn't you know, the Apartheid government is still giving us our monthly salaries and withholding it from the poor oppressed souls? And didn't you know that it is the Apartheid government (and whites as a whole actually) who stuff the current government's, voted in by the poor oppressed, pockets with fat cheques and million rand houses? This is all the whites' fault, that the current government has not managed to in any way uplift the poor oppressed. And it is all the whites' fault that the poor oppressed keep voting for this government who have achieved nothing in their 17 years of rule, except enrich themselves and their friends. The whites are to blame for everything that goes wrong in SA, didn't you know?

  • kingkong - 2011-09-06 15:32

    he is for ever studying reports the same with cele and sicele matters does it take him so long to comprehend a simple report about the chief justice shame that we have to sit with a grade 0 president pity

  • DiePriester - 2011-09-06 15:34

    "He is studying it. He is studying all the responses." me with a frozen rope, he can't even read!

  • Sharkbite - 2011-09-06 15:35

    No surprise here, Zuma is petrified of having a decent discussion with Zille.

      OZNOB - 2011-09-06 15:48

      DOES HE know what a discussion is ?

      Wizard101 - 2011-09-06 18:45

      E!E!E! I don't know I must see eef I understand it right,you want me to speek with you in big words,eish I don't know. zuma cannot even think for himself,SA is the only country in the world where you have to have a criminal record,be uneducated and corrupt to become president.That is why this place is called a country,because it is rulled by c....!!!

  • Ingie - 2011-09-06 15:36

    Well of course he would. He wants his other crook friend to join the rest of them

      Ingie - 2011-09-06 15:41

      he is scared she will open up a can of worms and maybe catch them both in the hornets nest.

  • Sisie - 2011-09-06 15:37

    He knows he can't buy Zille the way he bought the JSC

  • Ozymandios - 2011-09-06 15:41

    Eurocentric, You have submitted this drivel before many times over. I grew up in Govan Glasgow.It is dockland and even your dog has to know karate to walk down aroad there matey. 23 families shared one toilet and we were ALL White ALL Scots and nobody came and said "hey laddie, your from the wrong side of the railway line here's a pair of FREE soccer boots so we can get you to be another GEORGIE BEST AND GET YOU OUT OF THIS MESS. No matey our own white people made sure we stayed there as best they could. Your were born in Govan and there was extra effort to keep you there.No one cared a damn about you. You wanted to get out of there you hustled and fought like ten tigers to rise above it.And it was white on white matey and you swam or you sunk. So take your crappy one sided viewpoint and patronising attitude and go and live where the class distinction is 500 times worse than anyhting the Black man has ever experienced and then come back after 20 years and see how gratuitous you really are towards all those around you. You have no idea what that pecking order is like in that Class Distinction Chicken Run that abounds in the western world of the UK and Europe,- but you go there and I can assure you you'll be that little mangled chicken with no feathers right at the bottom of the rung on the ladder with nothing but scraps to live off. And you either fight like a banshee to get out of it or die there. Stop this bleeeding heart Sister Theresa Gospel for these people.

      Peg-Leg-Sven - 2011-09-06 20:43

      The Blacks of Africa have no idea how fortunate they were being ruled by Colonialists, who were too busy building the Empire to actually bring in the Class system that ruled Europe for over a thousand years. They were only under the yoke of the Colonisers from about 1860, after the Great Xhosa Cattle Killing, which left the Xhosa starving. The British used this too their advantage and only offered food to those that signed indenture contracts. Which if one takes 1994 as the release of this sort of control and true freedom, the Blacks of South Africa suffered less than 135 years of White rule. But in that 150 years, just look what they benefited from. They were taken out of the Iron Age and were the recipients of all the best technology and medical innovation of the day, something thy would not have discovered for themselves for at least a couple of thousand years. if one takes into consideration how long it took the West to reach the point of evolution that they had brought to the African continent.

  • Ingie - 2011-09-06 15:43 do you get to that comment that Zille wants Zuma as a husband..get real you idiot

      abg100 - 2011-09-06 16:50

      Ingie-its a black thing-delusions of grandeur! Why on earth would she want to marry a tea boy??

  • Brillianto - 2011-09-06 15:55

    Probably his Muti was not

  • michael.e.bowery - 2011-09-06 16:10

    Much as I admire Helen Zille's stand in Parliament, I would vote for Mokoeng. Forget any racist or homophobic tag he carries. He really only states what many feel but daren't say, fearing their dissent would bring discrimination on their own heads for having an opinion which upsets someone. I would vote for Mogoeng if he went ahead and enabled us to bring back the death penalty for the certain specific degrees of murder but especially wanton/wilful killing of Police, innocents and for conviction as a serial rapist.

      Dr. No - 2011-09-06 16:19

      Um, I think he is apposed to the death sentence.

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-06 16:23

      Would you also vote for him so that he can let a man who dragged his girlfriend behind his car go because "she was asking for it"? Or that he can reduce the prison sentence of child rapists because the injuries the child obtained were "not serious"? His one ruling in a case where a 14 year old was raped, read as follows: "One can safely assume that [the accused] must have been mindful of [the victim's] tender age and was thus so careful as not to injure her private parts, except accidentally, when he penetrated her. That would explain why the child was neither sad nor crying when she returned from the shop, notwithstanding the rape. In addition to the tender approach that would explain the absence of serious injuries and the absence of serious bleeding, he bought her silence and cooperation with Simba chips and R30." Do some research before making such a stupid statement!!!!

      voltaire - 2011-09-07 09:04

      Really? You would be dissappointed. This guy believes that you can 'gently' rape a child and that "provocation" is reason to reduce the sentence of someone found guilty of dragging his girlfriend behind a car. Read some of his judgments then comment.

      voltaire - 2011-09-07 09:05

      Sorry, Sharkbite. I never saw your comment.

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-07 09:23

      All good Voltaire :) People need to be educated regarding his judgments, it sickens me to think that he is even being considered!!!

  • Dr. No - 2011-09-06 16:14

    First the tea girl now the madam. I have not met any of the two aforementioned but they must be formidable when even the strongest political party in Africa steers clear of them.

  • settled - 2011-09-06 16:19

    Thank You Mrs Zille for the work you already have done. Since the Election the only party that started rectifying all the bad service deliveries is the D.A. Another Plus to her character is..She faces the media and states her case..Unlike the president who has to hide behind his spokesperson..I am sure he couldnt even pick up the phone himself to cancel the appointment..Which says to me cannot communicate out of his own..Look at Obama..He talks to the people asif he knows them by name..Not constantly reading off a piece of Paper..He is begiining to come across as Brainless!..God bless Mandela..He is Wise, forgiving Humble and has a passion for people..May he live a long life

      Wizard101 - 2011-09-06 19:09

      Ja and so we all see what a poepol of a person was elected by the uneducated into power,and the world thinks what a joke,he is precident by name nothing else zuma and his cronies are poepols.

      linpark - 2011-09-06 21:00

      You got one part wrong Its Not god bless mandela Its god forgive mandela. Or should it be mandela begging god for forgiveness as he is the one who is about to die and have to explain his murderess stance of the ends justifies the means!!!

  • braamc - 2011-09-06 16:45

    Study it, like he is studying that thieve Cele's tender deals. JZ what a useless piece of s%^6%^^^

  • Born To Fish - 2011-09-06 16:55

    Bang gat!

  • Eric - 2011-09-06 17:06

    FYI Read the article it says and I quote "Section 174 of the Constitution enjoins the president to seek the counsel of the Judicial Service Commission and consult with leaders of opposition parties when appointing a new chief justice."

      Spoedvark - 2011-09-06 17:36

      Good point. What part of "consult" do his legal advisers not understand?

  • Verdade - 2011-09-06 17:24

    What cancelled....... He must be hunting for a wife again to add to his band of concubines. Be a man Shrek Showerhead - go speak to the Miesies..

  • - 2011-09-06 18:10

    Coward! How many times can this slime-ball duck and dive? And how much more damage will he do to SA before he is kicked out of the top spot?

  • Trevor - 2011-09-06 18:36

    Jacob Zuma, the FIERCE ZULU WARRIOR is intimidated by an educated woman....what a joke but then we always knew this as the ANC has never been willing to have a public debate on ANY issue since 1994 with opposition...only debating they know is "3rd Force, Colonial influences and the BEST of the lot...pulling the race card on EVERYTHING"...ANC...nice to see you intimidated by a woman who should actually be the President of SA!

  • Babba x - 2011-09-06 20:29

    Joker. He's scared she might be using words he will have to look up in the dictionary first

      Peg-Leg-Sven - 2011-09-06 20:55

      @Babba x, that is of course if he can use a dictionary.

      Wizard101 - 2011-09-07 08:18

      You must remember there is no pictures in da dictionary,he can't see what it means.

  • Chabi - 2011-09-06 20:49

    I am hopeful that the President will meet the Leader of the Opposition party at some point before a decision on this post is taken .. It is after all a constitutional imperative which the President will not want to faulter on this time around... it will help also if Ms. Zille does not make obvious what she wants to discuss with the President by prematurely going to the press, otherwise she will find whatever she says in that meeting has already been made known to the president and therefore rendering the meeting futile in both discussion & outcome. I hope I do not get insulted for writing this opinion... eish free opinions have this days become like volunteering for a lynching in Alabama or Ventersdorp.

  • Johan Kruger - 2011-09-06 20:55

    Zille will expose his incapacity, and he knows it!!!!!

  • tommy 2 - 2011-09-06 20:57

    Well done Jacob....... Superwoman is definately not important...... Besides these idiots are a minority still dreaming that they will rule again....

  • Mandla - 2011-09-06 23:30

    I understand that the DA is not happy simply because madam Zille is of the oppinion that Jurge Mogoeng Mogoeng will be too loyal to the ANC than the DA as a result they will not enjoy full support from the bench when ever they need to challege the Gorvenmant.This makes why Mogoeng Mogoeng not suitable to be the next Chief Justice for the DA.

  • White Knight - 2011-09-06 23:47


  • Mike - 2011-09-07 08:03

    Zoo-ma is spineless!

  • Lionel - 2011-09-07 08:57

    Govt speak translated: "studying the contents of the doc" means "you won't hear from us again". Maybe Zuma's too busy studying Thuli Madonsela's report about the SAPS Building scam.

  • anafrican2 - 2011-09-07 08:58

    Oh our Zuma never disapoints.

  • Amandlaness - 2011-09-07 11:10

    Hey nina belungu ndini ukuthi nithini ngoMsholozi, okusalayo ungumengameli wenu hayi uZille.

  • Carol - 2011-09-07 15:34

    He is out of the country so much - he has no time to deal with matters requiring meetings - he thinks he can just unilaterally make decisions. The man has no idea what is going on in SA !

  • thabiso.motsoeneng1 - 2011-11-01 16:11

    i think the presdent need to clarify himself to DA, he has made a desicion on the matter as the president of this country, empowered by the constitution to do so more so that he consulted stake holders, meaningful consultation is very subjective.

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