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Zuma kneels down in Marikana dust

2012-08-22 16:40

Marikana - President Jacob Zuma knelt down in the dust of Marikana on Wednesday to inspect used bullet cartridges brought to him by striking mine workers.

Zuma arrived in the troubled area this afternoon to address a group of about 100 striking mine workers near the scene of last week’s killing of 34 mine workers.

The cartridges were carried by the workers in two plastic bags.

They related last week’s events to Zuma and a ministerial task team that had accompanied him.

Zuma told the gathering that he expected a commission of inquiry he announced last week to unearth the whole truth behind the killings.

The workers said they would continue to strike until their demand of a R12 500 salary was met.

The meeting proceeded without any violent incidents despite earlier threats by the workers who protested against the presence of armoured police vehicles.

Comments
  • china.phashe - 2012-08-22 16:22

    You are late Mr President, they don't need you.

      ianon.ym - 2012-08-22 16:48

      Nobody needs him ...

      ianon.ym - 2012-08-22 16:48

      Nobody needs him ...

      rbphiri - 2012-08-22 16:55

      Just watch! they going to give the miners a free ANC T-shirt and a bucket of chicken, served with a side of equivocations and than everything will be back to normal at the mine.

      rbphiri - 2012-08-22 16:55

      Just watch! they going to give the miners a free ANC T-shirt and a bucket of chicken, served with a side of equivocations and than everything will be back to normal at the mine.

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-08-22 17:07

      That's not Kneeling. That's squatting. Obviously he doesn't want to get his pants dusty.

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-08-22 17:07

      That's not Kneeling. That's squatting. Obviously he doesn't want to get his pants dusty.

      warren.vanwyk.3 - 2012-08-22 17:45

      That's because his pants cost more than R12500.

      mike.dufham.7 - 2012-08-22 18:44

      Another one bites the dust. Oh how I wish

      crackston.jack - 2012-08-23 13:46

      Seriously, it's like living in the Twilight Zone...

  • gavin.lott.9 - 2012-08-22 16:48

    Which violence are the miners referring too?..the security guards "They" murdered or the Policemen "They" murdered?...or the the thugs who ran with weapons towards the Police... to murder them??

  • wendy.schneider3 - 2012-08-22 16:53

    NOW SING TO THEM "BRING MY MACHINE GUN"

      Jennifer - 2012-08-22 17:34

      They sang it to him.

  • christopher.m.lowe - 2012-08-22 16:56

    And so what? Is Zuma supposed to be a god or something special? Isn't he supposed to kneel? Is he allowed to? Why is it newsworthy?

  • raath - 2012-08-22 16:58

    Why is he inspecting used bullet cartridges? Is he a forensics expert?

      rodney.overes - 2012-08-22 17:53

      Witch the Strikers are Bringing to him, weren't they supposed to be collected as evidence.

  • alexander.lombard - 2012-08-22 16:58

    I agree R12 500 is a good salary for the sweat of these men. My grandfather started working as a train "stooker" and he could at least afford to buy a house and feed his family. To keep on producing platinum at unrealistic low prices is fatal to our economy. Ask USA oil drillers if they struggle because oil companies do not make revenue. If the world wants cars with catalitic converters then they must pay for the platinum and the salaries of these men. This is called CAPITALISM. Workers in turn must behave and educate themselves and stop voting for the Comunists. Miners should strike until platinum reaches higher prices and mines can afford to pay them better.

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-08-22 17:11

      Yes, Good idea. Then let us strike until gold reaches higher prices, and include whatever else South Africa produces. Then we can all be paid R12500 or more. With that much money all South Africans could buy houses, and not these RDP hovels. We could even afford the odd bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue.

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-08-22 17:11

      Yes, Good idea. Then let us strike until gold reaches higher prices, and include whatever else South Africa produces. Then we can all be paid R12500 or more. With that much money all South Africans could buy houses, and not these RDP hovels. We could even afford the odd bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue.

      gerald.parker.9847 - 2012-08-22 17:14

      Alexander you are in for a big shock. Motor manufacturers are working on a sustitute for Platinum and when they get it platinum will be worth next to nothing. If the price of platinum which is controled the same as gold goes up so does the price of cars. CAPITALISM where the buyer sets the price together with the seller because if the price is too high nobody buys and the product stands and the seller then drops the price to get rid of stock. As far as USA oildrillers are concerned oil prices are also controlled so they also cannot demand higher salaries in fact the USA oildrillers are a lot more productive than our Rock drill Operators

      gerald.parker.9847 - 2012-08-22 17:14

      Alexander you are in for a big shock. Motor manufacturers are working on a sustitute for Platinum and when they get it platinum will be worth next to nothing. If the price of platinum which is controled the same as gold goes up so does the price of cars. CAPITALISM where the buyer sets the price together with the seller because if the price is too high nobody buys and the product stands and the seller then drops the price to get rid of stock. As far as USA oildrillers are concerned oil prices are also controlled so they also cannot demand higher salaries in fact the USA oildrillers are a lot more productive than our Rock drill Operators

      alexander.lombard - 2012-08-22 17:43

      Keith I do not think you meant that without sarcasm. Unfortunately we know this can not be done accross the board. @Makesuthink Human capital is also a comodity to be traded and therefore is part of Capitalism if the miners are striking the mines can not produce and the market falls in a state of undersupply. If miners stand together they can influance this modal of supply and demand. I have also thoaght of the replacement of platinum and this is just one more reason for workers to demand their worth. If I had to live in conditions these miners are working in... Think for yourself what will your mindset and commitment be.

      alexander.lombard - 2012-08-22 17:45

      Kenny I did not condone the miners actions just their demands. Read my second last sentance of the origenal post again.

      ryan.a.smith.3958 - 2012-08-22 18:06

      Alexander, thats a stupid idea, striking to push up prices and thus make more profit ????? gosh dude. i'm with keith. youre just wrong. you also seem to forget that prodution amount is the other side of the coin. so with your idea you POSSIBLY get higher prices, but you DEFINITELY get lower production.

      grant.callaway.50 - 2012-08-22 18:49

      @Alexander - R12,500 a month for effectively unskilled labour is just taking the p!ss!! There are people out there with degrees who battle to earn that! I'm a group accountant (now living in England)... Did my accounting articles for 4 years being paid a little over R2,0000 a month...while having to study after-hours, and paying for my education of of that tiny salary (which obviously then meant taking student loans). I could have made more working as a bar-tender, would have saved money on studies, and would have had a whole lot more fun, but instead I pushed myself to try to get ahead! Now, 10 years later, I've managed to get a decent job. Still no house though! You cant compare your grandad's ability to get a house to people of today! My dad bought a house, and he didnt even pass Standard 8, and had a family of 5 to support in his mid 20's. I have done a lot more than he did, and haven't even had my 1st child yet...and no house! Different times dude! If these guys want higher salaries, then strive towards those jobs that PAY high salaries.

      kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-22 20:12

      Vety good but as we are a global player look out for something called Dutch Disease which will seriously flawe your comment.Purely financial dude so no thumbs up or down needed !

  • mzondistanley - 2012-08-22 17:01

    To Mine owners we wish to put it on record that they are practicing Economic Injustice to the whole Nation!! By failing to sort out these grievances and now resulting in loss of life, It is a double blow to the Country as a Whole!! The earlier they sort out these injustices the better or they shall have themselves to blame for lack of corrective action.

      Muffin_man_can - 2012-08-22 17:21

      Demanding a salary of R12000 pm for someone that is uneducated is an unrealistic request. This mining company is providing 30 000 jobs, be greatful and stop complaining.

      Muffin_man_can - 2012-08-22 17:21

      Demanding a salary of R12000 pm for someone that is uneducated is an unrealistic request. This mining company is providing 30 000 jobs, be greatful and stop complaining.

      tw2066 - 2012-08-22 19:15

      ?

      kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-22 20:54

      @vox because they work at a few percent of the productivity !

  • bobo.jane.1 - 2012-08-22 17:04

    WAIT A MINUTE ! How can Intelligence not know who is behind this Marikana uprising ? And now Malema claims to be the peoples New "Saviour" Check out this link : http://www.bulawayo24.com/index-id-news-sc-international-byo-18242-article-Malema+addresses+militant+African+organization+in+London.html I really hope this post doesn`t get moderated/deleted like the others..

  • sbu.mahwai - 2012-08-22 17:06

    Inspect used bullet catridges - for what now. I think this article is misleading

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-08-22 17:07

    Desperate times calls for desperate measures, anything to get the votes of the uneducated, except delivering on your promises of course.

  • nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-08-22 17:12

    Nonsens the casings were collected by florensics. How many lies are the strikers stil going to tell SA.

  • Stormkaap - 2012-08-22 17:12

    It doesnt help to kneel in the dust. Load of rubbish. My take is that the ANC is paying for the years of civil disobedience that they have failed to stop. It has continued because the supporters of the govt only know this way. It has escalated to anarchy in a quest to get what they want at the cost of civil disobedience and lives! If anyone was to run at me with a spear, iron bar or any weapon and i have a gun, I WILL SHOOT TO KILL.

  • spookhuis - 2012-08-22 17:12

    Does he kneel in the dust of the farmers that feed his mob? No....he is well off at R200 per minute.

  • maryke.peacock - 2012-08-22 17:13

    What about your Police Force Mr President? Or don't their votes count? Careful now, it sure won't look very good when their authority is undermined so blatantly. What games you have to play when things are getting tight?

  • jpstrauss - 2012-08-22 17:19

    That's not a kneel, it's a squat.

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-08-22 17:20

    Zuma doing a repair job by kneeling in the dust because people who were attempting to commit murder were stopped in their tracks. Now they are made to be martyrs. How is this circus government ever going to get the message across to thugs overstepping their limits. Absolutely pathetic, no wonder the ANC and unfortunately SA is the laughing stock of the world!

  • prakash.singh.169 - 2012-08-22 17:21

    ZIPPER ZUMA YOU ARE VERY LATE JUST LIKE THE LIMPOPO TEXT BOOK SAGA.

  • Gavin - 2012-08-22 17:29

    always the last to arrive at the scene of something bad - very easy to comment on a storm after it's wreaked havoc, not easy to try and stand in its way hand in hand with the people and be defiant. JZ has lost touch with the people and the reality of what SA has become as a result of union action and crime (not that there's much difference between the two if you ask me). the ANC's way of 'ruling' leaves a lot to be desired, and is tearing SA apart as we head down the road less traveled.. Offering the masses free everything, comes with a HUGE price tag, buying votes, never benefited anyone.

      kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-22 20:08

      Yes he lost touch while free was equal to shut up while we rape. Nogal !

  • nicolas.gombert.16 - 2012-08-22 17:38

    Hypocrite! It's all about votes!

  • lownabester - 2012-08-22 17:39

    How touching, Zuma, hope you had something to kneel on, so not to dirty your suit. Hopeless idiot.

      omrisho.za - 2012-08-22 18:07

      the huge discrepancy between the "suit" and the "worker" so ever evident re the article pic - worth a thousand words...

  • theresa.pickering.1 - 2012-08-22 17:41

    I am so tired of people bad mouthing our President. He is our President and we need to respect that. I would not want his job even if paid double his salary. SA will never unite is we can support our President no matter who he is!

      cat.naude - 2012-08-22 22:30

      screw that, i didn't vote for him. If you want to carry on being a sheep that makes no difference in this country then Thank you! Thank you so much!

      sharon.houghton.984 - 2012-08-23 10:24

      You cnanotr respect a person who does not give respect. He's liar, criminal and a hypocrit. Not enough space for everythihng else he is! What is scary is what else is waiting in the wings to take his place. Every president we have gets worse since Mr Mandela!

  • ivan.frantz.3 - 2012-08-22 17:53

    Lucas Ledwaba, City Press, Please take Note, Zuma is squating NOT kneeling !!!

  • sifiso.msimango - 2012-08-22 17:53

    something very wrong here, firstly it was reported jz has avoided scene of shooting, 5 seconds later he is kneeling down on the very same scene, calculations dont tie-up, may be my calculator has a low battery or the reporters one?????

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-08-22 18:19

    Wow ! And did the spear look at the cartridges? Did he see what type of firearm it came from? Did anybody confiscate and inspect all those rattle bags which were made of spent cartridges? No? Why not? Is this not evidence which the "high powered" commission of inquiry should look into? What if (many) of these cartridges did not fit police rifles? Could some finger prints not have been lifted? Why are we so careless? Do we need votes so badly that melodrama overrides logic and justice?

  • antionette.oberholzer - 2012-08-22 18:41

    R12500??? i know of people with degrees that don't even receive that amount. what qualifications do these workers have? in the normal world if you're not happy with your work or your circumstances, you find another job. protesting or striking is not the solution, most of the time the threat of violence, leads to violence.

  • jacques.swanepoel.372 - 2012-08-22 19:46

    Nice .... Enjoy it while it lasts.

  • hendrik.breed - 2012-08-22 19:52

    Too little too late, stud. Let's get someone new, a great, sober, thinking president. God forbid, just not Malema.

  • koketso.senabe - 2012-08-22 20:15

    this lady crazy http://www.mrctv.org/videos/sickening-racist-rant-london-bus-full-version

  • judy.knoetze - 2012-08-22 20:21

    Soon after the miners threatened not to vote for the ANC again, Zuma is back on the scene, pretending to care.

  • punungwe - 2012-08-22 20:36

    I would be interested to know, have the workers said anything about the 10 people they killed?

  • markus.coetzer - 2012-08-22 20:47

    Tomorrow is the most shameful moment in South Africa's history, the day we honour cop-killers. Not a fan of the SAPS, but what has happened will drive them to crime. The video evidence, especially that from Al Jazeera, clearly shows that the criminals fired first, the SAPS just returned fire. Will never ever support any political party that made false statements about what happened, and that includes the ANC, the DA (disgusts me what they said, they had my vote before this) and the ACDP.

  • iceman196 - 2012-08-22 20:58

    anything for there votes hey zoom

  • markus.coetzer - 2012-08-22 21:30

    This week we are having a week of mourning for those who kill policemen, will we have a similar one for those who rape children next week?

  • cat.naude - 2012-08-22 22:28

    ok.. forget the president.. this whole R12 500 salary thing.. I know miners absolutely DO NOT get paid that much and NEVER HAVE but wouldn't it be a start.. these corporations that head up the mines have more than enough to give. If they want there platinum-they must pay for it. As long as it doesn't come out of OUR POCKETS! In Australia.. you can live a stable, secure, happy life being a builder. Change is good.

  • lovemore.mutawu - 2012-08-23 05:42

    Juju has given Zuma a run for his money!

  • sharon.houghton.984 - 2012-08-23 10:22

    Someone please bury him in the dust!!

  • Vusi - 2012-08-23 16:44

    God Bless Abasebenzi http://youtu.be/prQeX9_Lmww

  • venessa.cuthbert - 2012-08-23 17:36

    Rubbish - he squatted

  • don.botterill - 2012-08-23 18:38

    He is just on his hands and knees begging them to continue with their stupid voting for the ANC no matter what. He has no pride or integrity but is the lowest form of political animal whose legacy will be that he was the archetect of the ruin of this country.

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