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Zuma must apologise - DA

2011-02-06 14:38

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma should apologise to South Africans for using religion in an attempt to score political points, the Democratic Alliance said on Sunday.

The DA was commenting on remarks made by Zuma on Saturday in Mthatha in the Eastern Cape.

It said Zuma likened voting for the ANC to choosing to go to heaven, and voting for another party to choosing the devil.

The DA said Zuma also said in his speech that people who carried an ANC membership card would get into heaven easily.

"When you vote for the ANC, you are also choosing to go to heaven. When you don't vote for the ANC you should know that you are choosing that man who carries a fork... who cooks people," Zuma said.

"When you are carrying an ANC membership card, you are blessed. When you get up there, there are different cards used but when you have an ANC card, you will be let through to go to heaven."

The DA said in a statement that ordinary South Africans would find Zuma's comments offensive and unacceptable.

"His words are incendiary and dangerous, in that they seek to mobilise along religious lines, and sow seeds of division in our communities.

"Indeed, this is an act of shameless political and religious blackmail - the sort of political skulduggery that may be the norm in autocracies, but that should be anathema to our constitutional democracy.

"Mr Zuma should apologise unreservedly for these remarks."

Comments
  • gerhard.nel - 2011-02-06 14:50

    Scaring people with eternal damnation if they don’t vote ANC? This is a new low. I wonder if Jesus would have voted ANC? Something tells me no.

      3sidestoever - 2011-02-06 16:27

      Jesus would've voted SACP.

      ant177@24.com - 2011-02-06 18:04

      HEY tutu, zuma wants your position. what u going to do??? ha ha

      Mr.Glum - 2011-02-06 18:27

      This is not the first time. Before the previous elections, Zuma suggested that people not voting for the ANC will be punished by the ancestors. It may seem like joking, but the masses believes in this.

      Hans-Erik Iken - 2011-02-06 19:53

      Well I don't see the problem, isn't the church doing the same thing? But seriously, any idiot that fall for this nonsense should not have the right to vote since they obviously lack the capacity to comprehend the meaning of their vote or the implications their vote may have on the nation. How about an independant institution that goes out and actually educates the voters about the different positions from the various parties? And when I say independant I mean not run by the ANC as everything else. State funding would be better spent there then on new cars for the top brass in government.

      maseratifitt - 2011-02-06 22:32

      No, but the Devil definitely would have voted ANC!

      Viv - 2011-02-07 08:27

      The ANC is the devil!! bwhahahahaha

      bokfan1 - 2011-02-07 10:45

      Apologise?? Zuma must step down and take all his corrupt cronies with him and check into a lunatic asylum. These savages have beliefs in witch doctors and 'spirits of ancestors' etc etc and now they want to mix all that voodoo hocus pocus with God and Heavenly things??? They all belong in the luni bin. It's so sad to see a country with so much potential being taken back 20 steps into medieval times by such brainless ignoramuses

      bokfan1 - 2011-02-07 10:52

      Apologise?? Zuma must step down and take all his corrupt cronies with him and check into a lunatic asylum. These savages have beliefs in witch doctors and 'spirits of ancestors' etc etc and now they want to mix all that voodoo hocus pocus with God and Heavenly things??? They all belong in the luni bin. It's so sad to see a country with so much potential being taken back 20 steps into medieval times by such brainless ignoramuses

      Talk500 - 2011-02-07 11:49

      Unathi, I do feel sorry for you - do you believe that Jesus would vote at all? He would (if you believe in the bible) not care less which political party is ruling - people will be judged individually - somebody with so much hatred in his hart like you probably will need much more than and ANC card to get in heaven...LOL

  • John Seloa - 2011-02-06 15:01

    South Africans are religiously mature. They don't need Zuma's apology. Jouyrno's making a fuss of Zuma's statements is unfortunately annoying. Zuma can say whatever he wants, this is a free country. It is the same as having ACDP as a political party. Now please, can people stop being cry-babies and go canvass and garner support for the up-coming local government elections? This is not too much to ask and can the journo's close this issue now. Does the phrase "Freedom of Speech" make anysense to them.. This does annoy me.

      molifi - 2011-02-06 15:32

      You are completely missing the point, John. This message was delivered in a rural area where people are easily indoctrinated. This makes it unacceptable and reflects on the poor character of JZ. Just imagine that it was Obama saying this during a rally in an American state...

      Foxx - 2011-02-06 15:34

      Freedom of speech. Only when it suits the ANC. Imagine if the DA had said something like that,there would such an outcry of massive proportions.

      M - 2011-02-06 15:43

      Funny how freedom of speech only seems to apply to certain South Africans!An ANC supporter should be embarressed to have to hear such a shameful speech! It's totally laughable!!!

      Bill - 2011-02-06 15:52

      What nonsense are you talking, Zuma may act god like, but he is not god! Religious maturity has nothing to do with it. You don’t bring religious rhetoric into drumming up votes You under the false impression that because someone is the President that he can say what he wants… Wrong! He is just as accountable for what he says, is as everyone else in this country. The DA’s call for an apology is perfectly in line. What Zuma stated is tantamount to bullshit. What does he know about who does and who does not go to heaven! That is a shameful suggestion and blatantly arrogant on his part. The same as he dammed members that moved across to COPE, also with rhetorical balderdash, using forefathers scaring tactics and peoples faith, as a platform to vent his childish utterances. This is not acceptable to normal people. If the only way he can try and drum up votes is with this pathetic tactic….Shame on him. If the president of the USA said that, they would hang him high and dry in 2 seconds!

      Cool-Dude - 2011-02-06 16:05

      So because it is a democratic country I am free and I can say what I want too ???????? And you may not get offended because you are supposed to be mature ?????? And should you get Offended because you are not mature then I can call you a cry-baby. So now freedom of speech is the opperative word and I can say anything without you having the right to be offended?????.

      ahprevot - 2011-02-06 17:23

      @M All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

      ant177@24.com - 2011-02-06 18:12

      .mmmm.. freedom of speech, ..OK 'k word ' well now, how do you feel stupid. well well

      Akweerius - 2011-02-07 08:31

      @ John - And a suicide bomber thinks that blowing up a few people will get him into heaven where 72 virgins will be waiting for him. ANC and suicide bombers have the same thought process. Ignoramus!!!!

  • devils_advo - 2011-02-06 15:08

    What would Jacob do?

      cmr.insurance - 2011-02-07 11:18

      Clever Dude, Maybe take a shower.

      Eugene - 2011-02-07 21:42

      He's a clueless president! And he's in that position because people fall for his clueless remarks!

  • Stofbolletji - 2011-02-06 15:13

    How dumb does he think he's followers are....Apparently really fu@#$ink dumb.I won't be surprised if Zuma himself believes this nonsense coming out of that whole he has in his mug.

      ArtGee - 2011-02-06 16:44

      Remember, the people he is saying this crapp to are still visitng Sangomas and believe in the Thokoloshe! Seriously RURAL people, who will also believe that they will loose the Social Grants if they vote for the opposition Parties! Nothing like a Food Parcel and a PROMISE, like we have expected from the ANC!! All PROMISE and NO ACTION!!!!

  • devils_advo - 2011-02-06 15:13

    Ephesians 4:29 notes: "Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers."

  • Neville - 2011-02-06 15:13

    The ANC Top Dogs are already in heaven they took the gravy train whilst their supporters go through hell with poverty,and the poor people fall into the same trap everytime SHAME ON ANC

  • Stofbolletji - 2011-02-06 15:14

    This is what you call,pulling out the last stops as you realise that your party is starting to sink..

  • Anthony - 2011-02-06 15:19

    Interesting, what is he so afraid of that he needs to pull the religion card? How will you feel Zuma when you get to the pearly gates and there's a sign that says "No judgmental card carriers allowed"? I vote DA and I am a spiritual person, so I am going to hell because I actually vote my heart and not my fears?

  • Reveal Them - 2011-02-06 15:19

    What do you expect from a person with a Grade 2 as their highest level of education. He also does not have enough basic knowledge to know right from wrong. A good example is the corruption cloud over his head and many more other question marks that need answers.

  • geanann - 2011-02-06 15:25

    The DA finally woke up!!! Jacob, the Über Messiah, are way ahead; promising virgins to the Western Cape Muslims. http://blogs.news24.com/g.annandale/jacob-our-holliest-zuma

  • Hardtalk - 2011-02-06 15:28

    The ANC & the ANCYL are run by baboons and are the sh!theap of the African nations, who belong on the sh!theap. Anyone that is so stupid not to agree belongs there also. The only reason they are in power is because most of the bl@ck voters that vote for then are uneducated fools, and that is just how Mr Zuma and his friends like to keep them.

  • twincamsam - 2011-02-06 15:28

    In fact Mr. Zuma. It is the other way around.

  • Foxx - 2011-02-06 15:30

    How desperate are you Zuma. You must be a little worried to sink to this level and bring religion into this. Obviously you have not read the bible. You and your anc cronies are a bunch of useless idiots.

      Mr.Glum - 2011-02-06 18:31

      The ANC culture seems to have a Roman streak. Once they come to power, they think they are gods.

  • heebeejeebee - 2011-02-06 15:34

    30 years ago, the ANC told their followers that they should support the ANC because it was fighting the good fight against an oppressive regime. Yet, today, this ANC is asking for your support, else you would go to hell and your forefathers would haunt you? How far has this organisation fallen?

  • Mike - 2011-02-06 15:35

    In a situation like this, my dear old Grand Mother would have commented - "What more would you expect from a pig than a grunt"!

      genet - 2011-02-06 17:29

      Beautiful. We need more like your gran and mine.

  • Gladyz - 2011-02-06 15:35

    i only hope the 18 and 19 year old's registered today.. we need the young voters in the western cape to wake these wankers up for once and for all!

  • Archie - 2011-02-06 15:38

    Jacob Zuma, hear this, and if possible understand this: John 14:6; "Jesus said to him; I (Jesus) am the Way and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except by (through) Me".

      Eugene - 2011-02-07 21:45

      Amen archie!

  • Wow! - 2011-02-06 15:40

    Typical ANC behavour. Trying to intimidate people into voting for them AS if they have access to heaven. Vote ANC and create "Hell on Earth".

  • logical007 - 2011-02-06 15:41

    Next week he gives his yearly 'Promises and lies' speech. The nation is still going to hear plently more 'promises' from this uneducated (std 4) president - that cannot possibly be kept. Besides handing out free chicken and T-shirts, telling people in rural areas to make a small cross in the box next to Zumas name if they dont want to vote ANC is the worst bit of campaign corruption I have heard of yet.

  • Wow! - 2011-02-06 15:44

    Typical ANC behavour. Trying to intimidate people into voting for them AS if they have access to heaven. Vote ANC and create "Hell on Earth".

      vicj - 2011-02-06 15:53

      It is already hell for the people of South Africa since the ANC took over

      Zinki - 2011-02-06 17:00

      Unfortunately all those rural people will be scared into voting for the ANC because they will be damned if they don't. They are uneducated and gullible.

  • Sanity_Check - 2011-02-06 15:45

    It is very scary that a person that obviously does not have a personal relationship with God is ruling our country. Where can I get an ANC badge..hahahaha.

  • vicj - 2011-02-06 15:46

    This man has no moral standards. His heaven is goint to be hell.

      63Starlight - 2011-02-07 15:03

      Well, its actually a short trip..... heaven is north and next door to Botswana, they heaven got anything. I'm sure the ANC card will definitely get you in.

  • terry - 2011-02-06 15:49

    What else do you expect from this uneducated bafoon?

  • Wayne - 2011-02-06 15:53

    An absolute disgrace of a State President... supposedly a Statesman for the largest democracy in Africa and this is the BS he tries to sell to South African citizens... an immediate vote of no confidence !!!

  • Chris - 2011-02-06 15:57

    and this man is a leader of a country...great, if as we do not have enough hidious crimes - I can just see how all criminals spark to get their hands on that "skip hell - go straight to heaven" card.

  • BernieK - 2011-02-06 15:57

    This country deserves its president. It made the decision and Zuma is the president. This country must live with the decision made in the past. And in the future. So, if idiots believe a lie then they must live with the outcome. The unfortunate thing in this country is that the majority of people are not informed and pliable as putty and not educated enough. The rest are basically at the mercy of one man one vote. It does not seem to be working though, so what must one then do if one does not agree with the majority vote?

      vicj - 2011-02-06 16:12

      Open their eyes and ask if this is what it is all about. Majority rule, majority people not getting the benefits. Only the selected few at the top.

      63Starlight - 2011-02-07 15:04

      Here we go again. The COUNTRY didn't do anything. It was the majority of South Africans, not ALL or EVERYONE... think before publishing

  • KattyW - 2011-02-06 15:59

    Get an ANC membership card and vote DA. That way you can have access to both heaven and hell! Freedom to the people, right.

  • dup007 - 2011-02-06 16:02

    Zuma don't need to appologise - the vote will show him he made a BIG mistake - degrading God to his level.

  • Sanity_Check - 2011-02-06 16:05

    Zuma does it again. I have lost whatever bit of respect I had left for him.

      vicj - 2011-02-06 16:13

      When did you have respect. Must be before Shaik.

  • Peter Merrington - 2011-02-06 16:11

    The bizarre thing is, Mr Zuma's an honorary pastor in a Christian church group. Can you believe it? Maybe he considers what he said to be in jest, in which case it's very poor humour - or, maybe, he intends this in all rhetorical sincerity in order to take advantage of the electorate. As an honorary pastor he's evidently not widely read in scripture. What he says is antiChristian. Bizarre.

      63Starlight - 2011-02-07 15:07

      How shocking!!!! A false prophet?

  • Colin Dovey - 2011-02-06 16:17

    What is significant, TODAY, is that there is an ALARMING 78% drop in direct foreign investment in SA today, with the money going to Brazil, India and China......statements like these from ZOOOOMA and his lackey MALLL-enema will NOT bring 5 000 000 jobs. Unless of course he wants to sell his soul (and ours) like Bobby Sox next door who has sold UNMINED Platinum reserves to China, and THEY will bring in their own expertise - NO jobs in the higher echelons for the "uneducated" masses who cannot rad the newspapers or are being fed garbage for knowledge. The ultimate results will be FOOD riots. Wild Statements by out of control "leaders"

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-02-06 16:23

    This specimen of a statesman has no self respect for himself never mind respect for the religions of this rainbow nation. "Help us" God willing “The more corrupt the state, the more laws.”

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-02-06 16:30

    This specimen of a statesman has no self respect for himself never mind respect for the religions of this rainbow nation. "Help us" God willing “The more corrupt the state, the more laws.”

  • Pieter Wolf - 2011-02-06 16:40

    Zuma , Cosatu & SAKP represent the ANTI Christ.. They will never enter the HOLY PORTALS OF HEAVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      wattalotokak - 2011-02-06 17:44

      The axis-of-evil

      emile.marais - 2011-02-06 19:15

      Isn't that what Communism is all about? No God, no class, no job, no future...

  • To The Point - 2011-02-06 17:04

    This man does not even belong to a religion ?????????? Which heaven is he referring to the sangoma one? - No wonder he supports his vacuum headed sidekick Malema. They make the same dim-witted comments.

  • Casper - 2011-02-06 17:05

    I hope all of you are going to vote in the coming local elections. It is the only way we can can and will make a difference.

      unproud Safrican@24.com - 2011-02-06 17:34

      I agree. Please, please everyone think before you put your cross on the ballot paper. Do we want to continue with this type of South Africa or do we want to live in a modern civilised society. If there should be a change in our leadership it may not be perfect but anything is better than what we have to endure now!

  • shaun.cousins1 - 2011-02-06 17:10

    ummm God left africa ages ago...Sorry to say no one can replace God, so ja no heaven here bro

  • Bliss - 2011-02-06 17:12

    But the ANC took bible study out of Christian schools ?? now the man claims he is so special that ur only way to heaven is the ANC.. The ANC does nothing about the sick blooded murders, rape, crime and violence in this country - Im sure heaven doesnt like that - the ANC does nothing about the corruption in govt - nope i dont think heaven likes that either The ANC fail to help the poor - hmmm sure does not sound like the stairway to heaven ....

  • Terence - 2011-02-06 17:15

    In the bad old Colonial days there was a saying that "God is an Englishman". In 21st Century South Africa he apparently carries an ANC membership card. At least he moves with the times.

  • mmdmm - 2011-02-06 17:18

    ONLY A INCOMPETANT MORON WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS - JUST GOES TO SHOW WHAT AN IDIOT WE HAVE FOR A PRESIDENT

  • roadvark - 2011-02-06 17:21

    Leave him. God will sort him out. Remember what happened to the Beatles who said they were more popular than Jesus. I can't wait to see what happens.

      JohnnyWotten - 2011-02-06 17:51

      Uh… they went down in history as the greatest band of all time?

      roadvark - 2011-02-06 18:31

      Yeah you are right. History is what they are.

      Mr.Glum - 2011-02-06 18:33

      I agree. Like the builders of the Titanic also, the ANC thinks they are unsinkable.

      roadvark - 2011-02-06 18:34

      And one of them got wasted.

      JohnnyWotten - 2011-02-06 21:54

      And history is what we'll all be someday but everybody will still remember the Beatles. Long after religion has become passé.

      Joe_Massahar - 2011-02-06 22:30

      @JohnnyWotten And everybody will remember Zuma. The point is - what goes around comes around!

      Janine - 2011-02-07 10:07

      The Beatles did not say that they were more popular than Jesus. John Lennon said that more people knew about him than knew about Jesus. Makes sense if you take all the Muslim countries into account.

      roadvark - 2011-02-07 11:53

      Oops! Where is John Lennon now?

      JohnnyWotten - 2011-02-07 13:54

      Oh, I get it, you're saying that people that say bad things about your god get killed but Christians… uh… no, actually I don't get what you're saying.

  • Themba Radebe - 2011-02-06 17:54

    what the hell....??? when did religion get a good name anyway??

      pointblankza - 2011-02-07 08:55

      Amen! :)

  • Fred - 2011-02-06 19:20

    Zuma has now crossed the line one to many times. To reduce God's kingdom to ANC card carrying people is an insult. But then I guess he does not know this with a simple education. Zuma I pray that God will show you the way and I suggest that you start by reading God's word on the many hours you spend flitting around the word on a plane.

  • Fred - 2011-02-06 19:24

    Zuma it is God who is all powerfull

  • robg - 2011-02-06 20:24

    Eish! I love my country , but when it is run by a dof herdboy with his brain in his dick.....

  • cjaba - 2011-02-06 21:16

    cjaba, I want to ask the DA, do you people know the Bible. Only our Heavenly Father can forgive people and not humans. We don't own our Elohim , but we can become His children if we believe in Yahweh . zuma is the god of the anc and he will take them to his haven, sorry heaven!!!!!

  • veroni.kruger - 2011-02-06 21:46

    Just another example of the un-statesmanlike behaviour of a man who has the title of president, but none of the attributes normally associated with the office of statesman in the civilised world. As Christians we pray for him (because of the office of president, and because the Bible enjoins us us to pray for those in authority), but he needs no opponent to destroy him - he is his own worst enemy!

  • rodbod@24.com - 2011-02-06 22:29

    What does the IEC have to say about this intimidatory electioneering.?? This president of our is so dumb he probably could'nt operate a toaster. Ebarrassing to this nation,-thats what it is!

  • maseratifitt - 2011-02-06 22:30

    Why should Zuma apologise? He was just saying what he believes to be true. ANC cadres really are living in heaven. They take as much as they can from South Africa for themselves. To all thinking South Africans: Let's give the ANC hell !!

  • Siboniso Mncwabe - 2011-02-06 22:42

    Missionaries used the same religious tactic when they came to Africa to cultivate Christianity; fear of God then enslavement & colonialization followed, no apology. Is it necessarily blasphemous of Zuma to do this also; "orthodox" or not this man is full of ideas. Eternal damnation even for ACDP is quite funny. Like clock-work opposition is reactive & played like a yoyo by ANC yet again. Terms such as "un-statesman-like" mean little to Zuma's mind games. By western definition Zuma's a corrupt idiot because he's an African & does things shocking. Profets of doom say he needs prayer, I just wonder from who - Jewish, Christians, Muslims, Mourmons,Shembe who will send him for damnation, or is he worthy if at all of forgiveness for his deeds ? God will sort him out, how would 'we'know ? In the same breath, the stunts by ANC will send them down crashing hard, flat on their face. Peoples beliefs can only be manipulated up to a certain point, promises made at some point need to be honoured. The media has intepreted it nicely for us "the way to heaven is ANC, get a card & be saved". Is ANC gonna send us to heaven in coffins ?