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Zuma records must be released - court

2012-03-20 10:45

Johannesburg - The Supreme Court of Appeal on Tuesday upheld an attempt by the DA for access to the records that led to the suspension of criminal charges against President Jacob Zuma in 2009.

The Democratic Alliance wants a review of the decision, by then acting national director of public prosecutions Mokotedi Mpshe, to drop charges against Zuma before he was elected president.

The DA had called on the National Prosecuting Authority to produce the record of proceedings that led to the decision.

The court held that Mpshe's decision on April 6, 2009, to discontinue the prosecution of Zuma on corruption charges, would be subject to review.

The SCA ruled that Mpshe should hand over the record to the Registrar of the Supreme Court of Appeal within 14 days.

Excludes representations by Zuma

The record should, however, exclude written representations made on behalf of Zuma and any consequent memoranda or reports prepared in response, or oral representations, if their production would breach confidentiality agreements.

The SCA further held that the record should consist of the documents and material relevant to the review, including those before Mpshe when he made his decision.

NPA spokesperson Mthunzi Mhaga said it would study the judgment to determine the next legal steps.

"We wish to state that we still stand by advocate Mpshe's decision and remind all that these were preliminary issues with no direct impact on his decision not to prosecute."

Comments
  • Patrick - 2012-03-20 10:49

    Awesome! One step in the right direction after another is all it takes.

      ryno.rousseau - 2012-03-20 10:54

      So its ok to sell your integrity, as long as you get a good price for it?

      Penny - 2012-03-20 10:55

      Maybe so Sargon, but for the sake of transparency in South Africa, it's good that the masses see the level of corruption in government. It's time that the records were set straight and that the people can see for themselves just how corrupt the once proud party is and how far they have fallen from grace.

      solverman - 2012-03-20 10:57

      do you honestly think handing those documents will ever come to fruition..? It will be a cold day in hell before that would happen.... !

      Tammy - 2012-03-20 11:01

      a thumbs down for this comment? Must be a trol or a retard

      Adam - 2012-03-20 11:17

      Sargon, I believe investors would rather see a democracy that is not a facade, and a little stability. This is great for both bussiness and democracy, I only hope showerhead does not derail this by appealing again and again, as seems to be his devious strategy. The rand is 7.53 to 7.58 so far today, only because of USD and JPY fluctuations.

      Marion - 2012-03-20 11:17

      @solverman - I think they will be handed over but maybe they will have a lot of blacked out pages like the eToll documents. :-((( or is it :-)))

      Jason - 2012-03-20 11:21

      actually Sargon this shows that the Constitution is stronger than anyone person.. Its a positive thing, the short term effects might be neg. but the long term effects are positive.

      Youefoh - 2012-03-20 11:45

      Don't be fooled! Any Political party can try get documents or tapes or whatever, nothing will ever happen to Zuma because everyone in the NPA are connected to him, that's why the Scorpions were abandoned.

      Elize - 2012-03-20 12:18

      @Sargon, what investors?? We deal with a lot of foreign investors and the rate they are pulling their money out of this country is very very scary, so I elive this is a step in the right direction!

      Trevor - 2012-03-20 12:19

      And while they are at it, also sort out the corrupt Gupta's. they have a hand in all this controversy.

      Wendy - 2012-03-20 12:26

      have to agree with ryno ... if we have to clean the rot out, we have to clean it all out.

      bheki.dingiswayo - 2012-03-20 12:29

      I wonder where we will be without a DA

      Spyker - 2012-03-20 12:35

      ... I WANT TO KNOW WHY ZUMA REFUSED TO APPEAR AT THE TRC HEARINGS - TO ANSWER TO SEVERAL CHARGES OF MURDER (inter alia)..? If a bona fide independent (international) court is established in SA, there is not a single member of the ANC executive that will not - at least - get lengthy imprisonment sentences - most will get multiple life-sentences. This is one of the key reasons the ANC abolished the death sentence - as the majority of them will “qualify” to be sentenced to death... As such, it is the fundamental motivation for the ANC to "black"-out the media and the judiciary - the ANC is the largest organised crime syndicate on earth (measured by the "cash-flow" it commands, it is larger than the S/American mafia's). This is an issue for the International Criminal Court. The ANC was 'engineered' by the West, the UN specifically - they now have to take responsibility. SA's tax-payers should lay a charge at the court in de Hague, against the entire ANC government - a Nato-led court must then be established and the entire ANC must face a de facto judiciary, not the facade it has established since '94. Sounds far-fetched..? Do not condemn the idea so swiftly - there are already charges of genocide, against the ANC regime, at the court in de Hague.

      Ian - 2012-03-20 12:37

      @ bheki.dingiswayo - that is easy to answer. YOu will all own your own land that was taken from other people without being compensated for it. Then you will ask why the land is not making money or why you now have to pay rates, taxes and a bond for it. Then there will be protests in the streets why the DA didn't do enough to stop it.

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:32

      there is cope,IFP,VF,UDM etc.This is not DA victory.This is victory to democracy and transparency.Even you as a private person can force Zuma and co. to do anything via the courts like the guy who took them to court for disbanding the scorpions.While things are sure desparate in the desparate alliance,lets not get carried away with this ruling.

      Louis - 2012-03-21 08:35

      The anc must have somthing to hide since they opposed the release of the documents. Even the Mac clown has thrown his bit in. The anc is rotten from the top to the bottom and they are losing even the most backward voters and they are worried.

      Hugo - 2012-03-21 09:43

      Louis backward voters?you are a cretin and you are so tactless!

  • Tammy - 2012-03-20 10:49

    really? I will believe this when I see it

      Sam - 2012-03-20 17:07

      tltltltltl..... Yes, they are going to be released with tons of conditions. One of them is that nobody should be allowed to touch or read them

  • Bluecrest - 2012-03-20 10:50

    Nice one!!! Lets see what happens now...

  • Henri - 2012-03-20 10:50

    DA can write that costs off, Zuma will appeal and then re-appeal - souns familiar ???

      Penny - 2012-03-20 10:56

      You can bet Malema and his militant beret-wearing cronies will jump all over this. I personally hope Zuma and Malema both get kicked out of the ANC at Mangaung.

      Chris - 2012-03-20 11:15

      No Pennywise -- it simply excludes certain docs in which JZ made allegations of conspiracy. No "relevant" doc can be excluded.

      Vernon - 2012-03-20 11:23

      @pennywise,whoever takes their places are just as rotten.all from the same barrel.

      Penny - 2012-03-20 11:26

      @Vernon - there are lots of them yes, but there are some gems in the haystack, they just need to rise above the muck.

      Michael - 2012-03-20 12:30

      @Pennywise..... Never going to happen. The "muck" that you refer to will NEVER EVER let a "gem" rise to the top. No benefit to them whatsoever

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:34

      Unfortunately modern law has loopholes that can be exploited.Zuma is sure going to appeal,it his constituitonal right afterall.

  • rowan.maulson - 2012-03-20 10:50

    What does it mean to submit an "abridged version"... does that mean they can edit it?

      Sharon - 2012-03-20 11:03

      I wondered the same - Abridged is defined as "shortening" or "condensing" and is most commonly used in reference to the act of reducing a written work. I just wonder how "abridged" this could become. Maybe a 1 page document?

      Chris - 2012-03-20 11:15

      See reply to Pennywise above

      Juan - 2012-03-20 12:00

      A version of events that doesn't compromise Zuma in any way? Somehow I feel this court order is a hollow victory

  • Jomah - 2012-03-20 10:51

    Go to jail! Skelm.

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:35

      presidential immunity,you should know this mos Jomah.

  • Sika - 2012-03-20 10:51

    heh heh heh there goes his Mangaung chances....LMAO Karma is a bitch

  • Dave - 2012-03-20 10:54

    Nou gaan die poppe dans....this is going to be very interesting....what is it now..ConCourt 25, Zooma 0??

      Deon - 2012-03-20 11:04

      Not yet, this was the Supreme court of Appeal but it will probably end in the Con court.

  • Dries - 2012-03-20 10:56

    Time is running out for shower head.

  • Trevor - 2012-03-20 10:56

    Julius must be laughing all the way to Sandton in his Range Rover....do we expect another term of Mbeki....I believe so, the man has a seriously large bone to pick with Zuma and now Julius is in a life or death struggle, he's going to BURN Zuma....

      Peter - 2012-03-20 11:41

      Unfotunately yes. See my comment at the top ... I am in a quandry here. Something along the lines of "Better the devil you know but better still no devil at all?"

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:36

      No,Mbeki is not coming back.We have leaders in the ANC that will take the country forward should pres Zuma somehow find himself accidentally out of a job.

  • Thabani - 2012-03-20 10:56

    This case was about records? The way the media reported on this ealier. It created an impression this was about re-instating the charges. Zuma will appeal this, and another year will lapse while this goes on, and on.

      Penny - 2012-03-20 11:06

      Unless this is a sign of ANC infighting and there's a 'third force' plan to unseat Zuma. With all the bickering nowadays, who knows what the ANC are doing internally?

      David Gembe - 2012-03-20 11:19

      And what they did to Mbeki is back-firing

      Robi - 2012-03-20 13:37

      Thabani,This is SA broer, true power is through constitution and we are consttitutional democracy country where everyone is equal before the law including those in power. The constitution does not understood by only those in power but includes individual citizens. The constitution provisions were ignored to allow JZ platform to parrade his presidency. There is already indications that tapes were illegal obtained. There is high possibilites that charges can be reinstated. Watch the space,it is serious and damaging to the sitting president, country and the ruling party.

  • tripledunny - 2012-03-20 10:57

    Suck it fat boy!

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:37

      Zuma, fat?

      ArchAngel - 2012-03-21 12:19

      Well, he is lot less fat after his episode of screwing round with the HIV+ woman than he was at that time ....... who knows why ..... on diet perhaps?

      Hugo - 2012-03-21 16:47

      ArchAngel displaying your Ignorance once again

  • nsele2 - 2012-03-20 10:57

    there is nothin that wil come of this. the summary of the NPA decision was out the day they announced the decision anyway.

  • roodbol - 2012-03-20 10:57

    Go, DA! If not for political party opposition and the media all dodgy deals and fraudulent transactions will be swept under the government's carpet.

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:38

      True.That is why THERE ARE opposition parties in democratic societies after all.

  • Jayb - 2012-03-20 10:59

    i also want to know since he become a president corruption is done day light and in front of everyone (tax payaers) no decision ia taken because he's part of corruption

  • Carol - 2012-03-20 10:59

    A W E S O M E

  • Paul - 2012-03-20 11:01

    Well done SCA!!!!!!!!!!

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:39

      they were just doing the job we mandated them to do.Dont need to thank them Paul,they will get used to it.:)

  • Andre - 2012-03-20 11:03

    If only this was good news!..... what will the outcome really do for the average Joe Soap!... Everyone and I mean EVERYONE, including the entire ANC knows how he usurped his power to have these charges quashed! Unlucky for "SH" his time of possible reckoning is at hand...??? ot is it??

  • SARealist - 2012-03-20 11:03

    Wonder if the pages will also be blacked out?

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:41

      they can black them out.I remeber a similar case in the US where the Defence force was ordered to release Bush's milltary record,some sections were blacked out.

  • Rudi - 2012-03-20 11:03

    A abridged version? I think that we should have the full version.

  • sampson.mamphweli - 2012-03-20 11:05

    Hai maan, hands off our president. Thats an old story. Why cant we let the dead sleep and move forward? How is this going to help the country going forward? Can you imagine having a sitting pres charged on things he did before becoming pres?

      Penny - 2012-03-20 11:15

      LOL. Are you serious ??? The question you should be asking is, "How can we allow a man to be president of a country that is a criminal?" You have your logic upside down man!

      Martin - 2012-03-20 11:17

      cos he is a criminal piece of scum, it will help the country cos when a criminal gets presidency his minions are generally criminal too, which is why all the taxes from hard working south africans of all colours is being looted constantly causing untold suffering amoungst the previously but still disadvantaged communities. besides he is an embarrassment to the zulu nation, as well as the country as a whole. He is an impotent useless president who condems, distances himself yet does nothing cos the comrades in his communist government might not like him.... he is pathetis, and the anc deserves a guy more like Mandela

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-20 11:23

      You say: "let the dead sleep". What about apartheid, when will you let that sleep. You president is a crook and a big oxygen thief.

      Marion - 2012-03-20 11:23

      @sampson.mamphweli - is there a statute on limitations for when a possibly corrupt politician, holding the highest office in the country, may be prosecuted? I hope not. The fact that he is sitting President doesn't absolve him of guilt if, indeed, he was guilty of corruption as alleged. If no legal merit to the dropping of the charges he must be prosecuted just like you and I would if the positions were reversed.

      Chris - 2012-03-20 11:39

      Because he is the president, he can be as skelm as he wants? Where have you been living the past couple of years? Mars? Wake up and smell the coffee! He knew he was a skelm and his big buddy Shaik was sentenced on the connected cases - why not Zuma? NOBODY is above the law, not even Zuma! Let him have his day in court - if he is innocent (yeah, right!), he has nothing to fear, not so? Congratulations DA! You rock!

      Glyn - 2012-03-20 11:46

      A criminal is a criminal, even if he is a sitting president! A free Democracy is for everybody, not only "sitting presidents"! Vote DA to give the anc a big fright!

      gary.dasilva - 2012-03-20 12:20

      Thats the whole point - we dont want or need a corupt president - this country deserves better

      celeste.rsa - 2012-03-20 18:55

      He shouldnt be sitting as pres at all.....but this major cover up made it possible for him to get into that position! It's time he had what he always said he wanted - his day in court!

      Johann - 2012-03-20 19:56

      Samson umfundine vukile i lala whena i would advise you to start thinking for yourself

      Johann - 2012-03-20 20:00

      Look whay havent you posted my reply on Sampsons response tothe commentry

  • The-third - 2012-03-20 11:06

    The wheels of Justice comes for everyone reverend.

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:42

      those are the core tenets of this republic:'all shall be equal before the law'

  • Martin - 2012-03-20 11:07

    im sure i speak for a few of us when i say hahahahahahahaha hahaha haha hahahahahahaha ahahahaha hahaha

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:43

      you are laughing mos?

  • jcpinker - 2012-03-20 11:07

    This means absolutely nothing... An "abridged version" is a euphamism for "all the meat will be removed" and the documention will be so watered down that it will be meaningless...

  • Singatha - 2012-03-20 11:08

    Well,well,well u Msholozi seems to be loosing just about every court case nowadays...

  • Siyambuka Archibald Sikrweqe - 2012-03-20 11:10

    Goooood! Moekedi Mpshe mst also explain to the Nation on how did he come to conclusion of droping the charges using illegally obtained recordings.

  • Melusi Myaluza - 2012-03-20 11:11

    this means nothing really, what's all the fuss about? Zuma will be re elected with or without any court rulings, so DA chill and salute your president! hahahahahaha

      Penny - 2012-03-20 11:19

      Only in a Banana Republic can the leaders of a country be criminals and still be in charge. If this was a first world country, the ANC execs would all be in prison.

      Zukile - 2012-03-20 11:20

      dont be quick to laugh melusi u may be surprised

      Chris - 2012-03-20 11:47

      The ANC remains in power with corruption at a new high exactly because they rely on people like Melusi - blind followers who can see nothing wrong with the ANC and its leaders, not even if they have 78 cases dangling over their heads ... what a shame! And then we want to be reckoned in the Western, civilized world? We're fast becoming a Zimbabwe, finish en klaar!

      valcooperRSA - 2012-03-20 13:18

      you say this because you are all the same......

      Robi - 2012-03-20 13:41

      melusiT,this is SA broer, true power is through constitution and we are consttitutional democracy country where everyone is equal before the law including those in power. The constitution does not protect and understood by only those in power but also includes individual citizens. The constitution provisions were ignored to allow JZ platform to parrade his presidency. There is already indications that tapes were illegal obtained. There is high possibilites that charges will be reinstated. Watch the space, it is serious and damaging to the sitting president, country and the ruling party.

  • Stephen - 2012-03-20 11:13

    Eish, now we have to review the SCA's processes as well; this is a misrepresentation of justice!!!!!!!!! This constitution of ours is seriously flawed.

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:44

      troll

  • RORO4MPHOZA - 2012-03-20 11:13

    what goes around comes around Zuma now this is the time you must go to court and answer all the allegation against you like everyone who lives in our RSA. No one must be above the law, no matter how corrupt you are like ZUMA

      Glyn - 2012-03-20 11:51

      Maybe Zuma will pack for Perth?

      Dave - 2012-03-20 11:54

      @Glyn - he wont get in, wont get a work permit.....

      Penny - 2012-03-20 12:06

      @ Dave - Please don't use the words 'Zuma' and 'work' in the same sentence

      Dave - 2012-03-20 12:29

      @Pennywise....sigh...actually I said he....

  • Eric - 2012-03-20 11:14

    How weird some of your comments are. You are already deciding that Jacob Zuma is guilty of some or other crime.. You must keep in mind that the NP was removed by the ANC and that was a bitter pill to swallow for the NP. The NP has infiltrated the DA and using them to get revenge as they would love to go back to the past. I hear about all the corruption in government but can someone actually list this for me.

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-20 11:26

      I hear about all the corruption in government but can someone actually list this for me. You are joking? right?

      Adam - 2012-03-20 11:26

      Eric, what meds are you on, or are you smoking your socks??

      Marion - 2012-03-20 11:31

      @Eric - I reckon there isn't a major political party in SA who hasn't been infiltrated by another.

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-03-20 11:38

      It is clear from your comment that you remember what you like and forget the rest. What has the NP to do with the charges against showerhead? I seem to remember the NP was in charge, but allowed the elections while knowing what the result will be, so no bitter pill to swallow. If you ask for the corruptions to be listed, you have a memory span shorter than 'now' and it will serve no purpose.

      frank.hartry - 2012-03-20 11:39

      People are not saying that your man Zuma is guilty of the corruption charges. The fact is that the NPA maintained that it had a strong winnable case against the wily Zuma and then illegally withdrew the charges. If Zuma is innocent as he claims then he surly need have no fear to face his accusers in court and prove his innocence. What would the problem be? The perception that Zuma is a crook who got away with his crimes will follow him to his grave unless he simply goes to court and proves his innocence.

      Refilwe IronMan Rakoma - 2012-03-20 11:48

      At the DA infiltrated by the NP point, I heard the same thing from very reliable sources, one can never know for sure but here is the story in short: old NP in DA are the rich and powerful who have agendas, they are the funders of the old guard, now the battle or faction going on in the DA is a fight between them and Helen Zille, apparantly she is the good guy that is aware of the agendas of these people and wants to make sure they dont succeed, I was told that these guys want to remove her a put a black face to the DA, a 'Lekota'?, so that they could gain power alot quiker. Let call it a theory, I admit it sounds rediculous even when I write it but I heard it from really creadible ppl.

      Chris - 2012-03-20 11:49

      What a lot of bulls*t - the man has 78 charges of corruption and what not dangling over his head? Did the DA (or NP perhaps?) fabricate this? Puhleeees! Wake up and get a grip on life! Clean your glasses and see the reality! If Zuma has done nothing wrong, why this song and dance to avoid being brought to book? Aha!

      bwdutoit - 2012-03-20 11:52

      Can someone send this guy that information sheet that list the criminal records and convictions, charges, unpaid traffic fines, current investigations of fraud etc of the current top structure of the ANC?!?!?!

      Glyn - 2012-03-20 11:54

      Zuma will face the court now! Then his ancestors in due course! What will they have to say?!

      Eric - 2012-03-20 11:59

      Come on people list them. Say that .... did this and was found guilty. Jacob did not withdraw his charges. Some of the writers call him scum. Wow. A man that built himself up from nothing against all the pressures from the NP. I agree with the information being released but let us release the information from all those that supposedly committed crimes now and in the old government and let us see about corruption etc.

      lovenergy - 2012-03-20 12:01

      @Eric, whaaaaaaaaat?! Do you actually live here is SA? If you do is it under a rock? Over R30 Billion missing due to corruption (and admitted) and you are not sure if it is true? The fact that you actually ask this question shows me that this might be your first time on NEWS24... welcome; now please feel free to use the search engine at the top of this NEWS24 page and search corruption. That should keep you busy for a year or so

      Deon - 2012-03-20 12:20

      It will be easier to get the list that the ANC gov. did right as this list is shorter. Zuma's personal list of fraud and corruption cases was close to that famous cricket game in Jhb - 435. His favourite was writing out cheques when he did not have enough money in the bank.

      Eric - 2012-03-20 13:11

      loveenergy. Read what I wrote. I asked that the many many corruptions should be listed. Those that have been found guilty of course and not the pie in the sky stuff.There is more corruption(people found guilty) outside the government than inside. I love this comment area.

      celeste.rsa - 2012-03-20 19:10

      Lay off the weed Eric - it kills the brain cells.

  • Marion - 2012-03-20 11:15

    Now the s**t is going to hit the fan and it is not going to be evenly distributed. :-))) May learn the truth at long last.

      Glyn - 2012-03-20 11:57

      Come in #1, your time is up!! Vote DA - Leave No Crap Unturned!

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:45

      Glyn why should we vote DA?

  • Robi - 2012-03-20 11:21

    If the decision to drop the charges was fairer and according to procedures why there must be difficulties to release the records?. Why someone has to go to court for the release of those documents. What is being protected by not releasing the records?. Those records were suppose to have been released without wasting state resources and DA resources. I hope it is not selective justice and hopefully truth come out that the decision was based on the fair procrdures and in the best interest of justice system.

  • reflection.moment - 2012-03-20 11:22

    lets get rid of this monopolists. DA means business. One of the most powerful opposition party in the World. No crap will be left untried......

  • Wisani - 2012-03-20 11:23

    Ooh thank God, m a die hard ANc but jacob should just go to court, his time is up.CHEERS WILL DRING TO THAT

      Peter - 2012-03-20 11:49

      Suppose you want Maleane in?

      Jacqui - 2012-03-20 12:47

      Wisani, stick with the ANC and you will die hard.

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:46

      same here,corruption is the biggest enemy of the republic.If cde pres is guilty of something then may the ANC consider changing him.

  • Tony - 2012-03-20 11:23

    Isnt the constuitional court the next step .....another drag out ....

  • Chris - 2012-03-20 11:24

    Donners hoog tyd! Nou moet die DA sterk staan en sorg dat skelms agter tralies beland waar hulle hoort! Of sal 'n Shaik op ons getrek word weer ...? Ek is so bly ek drink sommer 'n Red Bull! Damn high time! Now the DA has to stand strong and ensure skelms end up behind bars where they belong! Or will a Shaik be pulled on us again ...? I'm so glad I can drink a Red Bull!

      Eric - 2012-03-20 12:01

      You see Chris you have already found him guilty contrary to what you commented on my piece.

  • chris.khanye - 2012-03-20 11:25

    One sentence - I love our constitutional democracy!

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:47

      me toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • mbuso.tholly - 2012-03-20 11:25

    @steen yeah u r an "ANC MEMBER"what is a criminal?,'cause my understanding of it,is some who charged,tried and the verdict is guilty.here we must not make irritational comment u must analys 1st then comment.PRES.ZUMA IS NOT A CRIMINAL UNTIL OTHERWISE,U IMBECILE

      Rob - 2012-03-20 12:11

      mbuso Dictionary definitions of criminal, ref http://www.thefreedictionary.com/criminal: 1. A person charged with and conviicted of a crime. 2. A person wgho commits crimes for a living. Whilst you are presumably correct in the first case (although I am not privy to Zuma's record so I am only assuming), you are clearly incorrect in the second case. Of course you will now say that Zuma does not commit crime. So now go to http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Crime and you will see that for crime to be commited does not neccesarily depend on that person being found guilty. So, irrational comment....I think that yours is not only irrational it is not particularly well stated, and is certainly irrational.

      Deon - 2012-03-20 12:25

      He did sign a few cheques that bounced (+50) and should stand trial for this. Judge Hlophe's son did the same and is looking at jail time.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-20 12:49

      Mbuso, should you really be calling some one else imbecile?.

      Chris - 2012-03-20 19:19

      Let him have his day in court and let's see if he is in fact so innocent! If he is innocent, why are you worried? Why did he organise the charges to be dropped? Because he is worried he might be found guilty like his big buddy Shabir Shaik? Puhleese! Get real!

  • ngoako.mathekga - 2012-03-20 11:26

    Bring it on, we want to know the truth.

      Chris - 2012-03-20 19:21

      Wish there were more level-headed people like Mathekga! You go my man! Let's see how innocent he is - bring it on!

  • frank.hartry - 2012-03-20 11:28

    For the last two years South Africans have shamefully been expected to respect a presidency in which the president may or may not be a crook. This man Zuma spent years costing millions of rands of taxpayers money, in not being man enough to appear and prove his innocence in court of charges of corruption. Only a week before the NPA illegally withdrew the charges it told the world that it had a strong winnable case. There is no doubt that the NPA withdrew the charges because the individual bosses became aware that by hook or by crook this man Zuma was going to become the state president and their future careers were on the line and under threat if they did not withdraw the charges. If Zuma has nothing to hide and is innocent of the charges, why does he not appear in court and prove it like a real man. Even Selebi and Shaik, faced their accusers and appeared in court to challenge their accusers. It looks as if we have a machine gun toting president with absolutely no backbone. He is gutless.

      Chris - 2012-03-20 19:22

      I couldn't say it better Frank! Yes, let's get him in court to prove his "innocence"!

  • Bongeka - 2012-03-20 11:28

    Steen,if you're really ANC follower then I'll say thank you for using your head not your heart to make right decisions.But calling somebody a criminal while the court of law couldn't prove that is uncalled for.Let the law takes it's cause then we can comment after that. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

      Peter - 2012-03-20 11:51

      The ANC happened Bongeka. In the ANC you are "Innocent even if proven guilty".

      lovenergy - 2012-03-20 12:17

      @Bongeka, was Zuma REALLY the best person the ANC could find? I mean come on, how many people belong to the ANC? And they chose HIM to lead South Africa...maybe they should get a clean accountable President to represent the ANC and South Africa on an International level

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:49

      lovenergy No.In politics its not neccesarily about who is the best for the Job e.g ex pres Bush

  • RealNikka - 2012-03-20 11:28

    Bravo DA, I am not a DA supporter but I support their initiative

      Hugo - 2012-03-20 19:50

      It is their job to force Gov to account.

  • Thabang Danté Matlou - 2012-03-20 11:32

    about bloody time!

      Chris - 2012-03-20 19:23

      TOTALLY agree!

  • Riaan Werner Van Wyk - 2012-03-20 11:33

    Zooom zooooma Boooom! Crash! \r\n\r\n#BIG Explosion# \r\n.......................................................................................................................................................................................sound of showerhead rolling

  • Chris - 2012-03-20 11:36

    Donners hoogtyd! Skelms moet agter tralies wees waar hulle hoort - nie die president van 'n land nie! Damn high time! Skelms should be behind bars where they belong - not the president of a country!

  • TacoDan - 2012-03-20 11:38

    "The record should, however, exclude written representations made on behalf of Zuma and any consequent memoranda or reports prepared in response, or oral representations, if their production would breach confidentiality agreements." These documents should also make out part of the documentation to be handed over as these are made public record the moment they were issued in court. All these documents together should give a better overview to the public.

  • Terrence - 2012-03-20 11:39

    Nou sal die poppe dans!!

  • Glyn - 2012-03-20 11:40

    @ Sargon - I get paid in US$, if the Rand tanks I get more Rands! Nice! Thank you Zuma! Now everybody should go out in the next elections and vote DA!

  • ludlowdj - 2012-03-20 11:44

    And the government machine swings in to action, cleaning up reports and mislaying documents as needs be. Although its nice to have a government that is on the ropes, we of course understand that most of this is little more than political posturing and that nothing will come of it anyway, the damage has already been done and all the wishing in the world cannot undo what has been done.

  • Mncedisi Budaza - 2012-03-20 11:49

    Zuma is nt guilty since he has had his day in court bt his action have said a lot, even to dump person. He asked for his day in court wen he got it wat happen, he ran to court to block the files from madagscar, he said he will tell the truth, he appeal appeal and the charges were dropped. This is victory nt to DA only bt to all south african. The question is are we all equal before justice? How many ordinary south africans are in prison for crime they did nt do.

      Judith - 2012-03-20 21:09

      mauritius, not madagascar???