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Zuma unaware that Guptas influence ministers

2011-02-27 22:52

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma is unaware of any ministers or deputy ministers being influenced by "individuals" in making key government decisions, the Presidency said on Sunday.

"If this happens as alleged, it is shocking and totally unacceptable," The Presidency said.

"The President strongly condemns such behaviour from whatever quarter it emanates from.

"No member of Cabinet or government official should be pressured by anybody in the manner in which they do their jobs."

The Sunday Times reported that a revolt was brewing in the ANC and its alliance partners against the influence of the Gupta family over Zuma and his government.

The newspaper said it "understands" that the Guptas' role in influencing the appointment of CEOs and chairpeople in key state-owned enterprises was recently raised at a an ANC National Working Committee meeting and would be formerly discussed at its next gathering in a week's time.

This would pave the way for the powerful ANC National Executive Committee to probe the matter at its sitting in March.

Guptas wield power

ANC deployment committee members revealed at a meeting last Monday that new Transnet CEO Brian Molefe, believed to be favoured by the Guptas, had been appointed by the cabinet without their say.

The Gupta brothers - Atul, Ajay and Rajesh, also known as Tony - are said to wield so much power that they often summon cabinet ministers and senior government officials to their family compound in Saxonwold, Johannesburg.

The Guptas, through family spokesperson Gary Naidoo, dismissed the allegations as "rubbish" and said they were an attempt to "denigrate" Zuma and his office.

The Presidency rejected "insinuations" that Zuma's relationship with the family was impacting on his work.

"The Presidency rejects insinuations that the relationship impacts in any way on the President's work in running Cabinet and the country.

"The allegation that persons other than the President could have informed members of Cabinet and deputy ministers of the changes in Cabinet is preposterous.

"The President personally informed all affected persons of the changes to Cabinet after making his decision, in consultation with officials of the ruling party."

Comments
  • motsokwane - 2011-02-27 23:10

    What the f***k is going on.There's no smoke without fire.One can't decide to publish this crap if they didn't have facts.Why are they telling bits by bits.Let the Sunday times publish all the names of the ministers involved, while we still have a chance to vote for DA.SICK AND TIRED NOW.

      Sedick - 2011-02-27 23:23

      If you are not convinced that you should not vote for the ANC by now, then you never will.......c my comments below.....

      stiffler - 2011-02-28 07:45

      @ Artgee, this whole country is been pomped by a couple of his friends.

      emzozo.. - 2011-02-28 12:35

      donot honesty c what so suprising abt this as we voted for the President knowing who he is , what he is capable of. So why musy ppl complain this is what we bought from the shelve. when u voted or NOT. The Majory shall rule.

  • Sedick - 2011-02-27 23:12

    Yes Mr President. I believe you.........like I believe you were not corrupt with Sheik, and don't benefit by any Gupta deals, or Shabangu deals, I believe that you did not sleep with your friend's daughter, I believe that you do not believe that a shower is a cure for AIDS, I believe that our tax money is well spent, I believe in Christmas, fairies, the world is flat, that the sun rotates around the earth, that............

      Luyanda - 2011-02-28 07:09

      You can make a good teacher of History.

      Mike - 2011-02-28 09:06

      @stiffler - the problem is that the rag-heads are pulling the strings in the SA puppet world of the ANC tripartite alliance - be afraid - very very afraid! Of course the likes of Luyanda cannot se the wood for the trees!!

      Thingamebob - 2011-02-28 10:51

      Zuma is supposed to be a man and a Zulu but i doubt this as he is being con by Sheik and Gupta and every second person. The Zulu i used to know was a man with a backbone and stood for honesty and couldn't be conned.

      AJ - 2011-02-28 11:23

      @Thingamebob - that was a different Zulu, I think.

      hb7of9 - 2011-02-28 13:31

      @Thingamebob - thats how I always though of Zulus as well, but times have changed my friend. These days the word Zulu brings allot of bad things to my mind.

  • Fred - 2011-02-27 23:14

    Is Zuma really so stupid that he doesn't understand that his own bully-boy Malema is having a go at him (Zuma) and his son and their relationship with the Gupta's. Obviously Malema is only concerned that these mines didn't fall into his own lap. But the point is that we really have a bright president. Maybe we should call him Nero while he fiddles around !!!!

      ArtGee - 2011-02-28 05:55

      "ET TU GUPTA"?

  • Blip - 2011-02-27 23:30

    Well, now Zuma IS aware of it. So, will he DO anything about it? I won't hold my breath.

      buddy jones - 2011-02-28 08:14

      ha....he's been aware since day one the showerhead !

  • Macho Mike - 2011-02-27 23:49

    Eish, a sure sign of a government in trouble is denial, just as we see in Zim-gabwe and Lybia.Hau Mr Zuma, what do you know that you don't want us to know, if you know what i mean. I can't believe.........................anything the ANC says.

      Luyanda - 2011-02-28 07:12

      The ANC does not believe anything you say either!

      Mike - 2011-02-28 08:35

      @Luanda - the ANC don't believe anything they say because it is all a pack of lies anymway!

  • maseratifitt - 2011-02-28 00:30

    This is ANC. Just in it for the money. Bugger the poor people. Think they own South Africa. No wonder they admire Mugabe and Gadaffi so. Zuma must say something. Elections are coming up. Many will believe him.

      Mike - 2011-02-28 08:39

      The only thing Jughead says is a pack of lies which the masses belive to be true even though he has failed on all his previous empty promises!

  • Worldwise - 2011-02-28 01:06

    The Guptas own the computer company Sahara. They also financed the New Nation newspaper which is an ANC mouthpiece. They have plenty of business close to the government. They stuffed up badly when the Angolans saw them for what they are when they tried to do an oil deal as the Angolans checked up on them and found out they were using another company in Indias name for backing but didn't have any. How have these three guys managed to immigrate to SA when so many others can't? Google Noseweek magazine and read the regular exposes they write about the Guptas wheelings and dealings. Another guy with undue influence near to Zuma and the ANC is Ray McCauley of Rhema.

  • jonmusselman - 2011-02-28 02:19

    Malema... Such a stupid man... Is South Africa a stupid country, to be forever held in bondage to the ANC? This political slavery is FAR worse than any other... because it's VOLUNTARY; the slaves CHOOSE to reelect their masters, time and time again... And who do we choose? Malema made it clear: "You may not like the candidate, but as long as he/she is ANC you MUST follow them". As idiotic as this statement may be, it is WE who are the fools... because we OBEY... And so our slavery is made even MORE humiliating because South Africa's so-called "leaders" are such idiots... (Zuma, whose "brain" lies entirely between his legs... and Malema, who "thinks" only with his mouth - how can we POSSIBLY be following such "men"?) We should be as wealthy and advanced as the United States, or France, Germany, Britain, and the other countries of western Europe... but we don't WANT advancement, we just want to give our nation's wealth to the ANC, and to embarrassing buffoons like Zuma and Malema. The entire WORLD laughs at us, but we learn nothing... South Africa does NOT need the ANC - the nation will NOT fall to ruin if we were rid of them. I

      Luyanda - 2011-02-28 07:14

      Just try and get rid of it. If you succeed plz col me.

      allie - 2011-02-28 07:31

      @Luyanda: Hitler,Caddafi,etc also thought so.

      Mike - 2011-02-28 08:45

      @Luyanda - just col yourself! Engrish as she is spoke - and not the one in the wheel!

  • Anne - 2011-02-28 02:25

    Zuma is ovblivious to anything that could maybe implicate him. His memory loss is very convenient, to say the least. It is also totally ridiculous because everybody else seems to know what power the Guptas wield over Zuma and some others. Are they in effect governing the country?

  • manyatja.ramashala - 2011-02-28 04:46

    Zuma @ it again, does this man sits n go thru wat he reads fo the hole nation cos thts exactly wat he did wanda hu rote all the rubish, again they come n talk of corupt oficials min realy now guys do we realy dezerve so much rediculment, then they come n tell us to just vote AnC. Do we realy hv this so cld Democracy?

      craigesterhuizen - 2011-02-28 09:56

      Can someone please translate this?

      Worldwise - 2011-02-28 11:23

      The tragic results of Outcomes Based Education. Sentence construction, grammar, spelling etc.

      AJ - 2011-02-28 11:25

      @craigesterhuizen - Sorry I cannot help you there..

      Calmone - 2011-02-28 12:36

      I know that somewhere in the there you are trying to say something,what is it?

      dgee - 2011-03-03 12:28

      And now they are going to scrap grammar altogether - heaven help our school leavers because they wont be able to help themselves !!

  • Shisstirrer QBE - 2011-02-28 04:51

    Probably find that there is a shortage of horses heads at the moment- go figure .

  • Aristar - 2011-02-28 04:53

    Liar, liar, your pants on fire. If one believes anything that comes out of Zuma's mouth then I have a lovely tower in Johannesburg to sell you. Excellent 390 deg view of the whole of Jo'burg. Selling price R20 million.

      Vuzi - 2011-02-28 08:07

      @Luyanda Be quiet you racist fool. Every time you and Malema open your mouths you prove Verwoerd and Smith right.

      The Observer - 2011-02-28 08:15

      Luyanda, You still can't do maths, why is their always an Indian in chrage of the money and not you? Lekker dom jy ne.

      maseratifitt - 2011-02-28 09:18

      The extra 30 degrees for free?

      Soapbox - 2011-02-28 15:47

      @Vuzi Smith?

  • Robbie - 2011-02-28 05:05

    Who is running the country?

      Robbie - 2011-02-28 05:08

      Anybody care for a can of worms?

      ArtGee - 2011-02-28 06:37

      More like RUINING the Country....

      Mike - 2011-02-28 08:47

      THe rag-heads are pulling the strings - be afraid - be very afraid!

      maseratifitt - 2011-02-28 09:21

      Careful, Robbie. You might open the Pandor box.

  • Met - 2011-02-28 05:35

    This family should be kicked out of this country asap-not that it would stop the ravenous wolves in the "CNA" to fill their insatiable pockets.There are "Chinese diplomats" traveling on diplomatic passports, crossing the country to do drug deals, but nothing can be done because they have immunity- apart from the fact that they have friends conveniently situated around the country

  • Wes - 2011-02-28 06:52

    "No member of Cabinet or government official should be pressured by anybody in the manner in which they do their jobs." PRESSURED no paid in the BACK POCKET. As the so called president says he knows Jack about anything and we all know who Jack is Jack Shiet

  • Jou - 2011-02-28 06:53

    Republic of India Africa

      Luyanda - 2011-02-28 07:22

      We come from very far. It used to be Repblic of Amsterdam/Netherlands Africa and many are still miss that.

      Fred - 2011-02-28 08:13

      @Luyanda... where do you find the crap you spout? It's obvious you don't even have half a brain, so all I can think is that you are employed by the ANC to continually write rubbish. Why don't you just think a little. We don't want the NP back in power, but the ANC are twice as bad - they are robbing their own people and idiots like you are agreeing with them. No wonder this country has less of a future than Zimbabwe.

      Mike - 2011-02-28 08:49

      @The Observer - Luyanda has to pick his nose in order to change gear!

  • Alkie - 2011-02-28 07:01

    It is Malema. He is telling the corrupt goverment to be carefull.

  • du.toit.grobler - 2011-02-28 07:04

    Hoe sal hy ook nou weet, hy weet van niks, maar het veel te se^ oor alles.

  • Wes - 2011-02-28 07:04

    "No member of Cabinet or government official should be pressured by anybody in the manner in which they do their jobs." PRESSURED no paid in the BACK POCKET. As the so called president says he knows Jack about anything and we all know who Jack is Jack Shiet

  • lenyora - 2011-02-28 07:05

    ...is this the beginning of the Guptarisation of South Africa??

  • Rhino - 2011-02-28 07:12

    Please good people of South Africa, before you start shouting at each other about the colour of people's skin, remember this is politics. There is no difference between corrupt white politicians and corrupt black politicians.......they are BOTH CORRUPT. CORRUPTION will lead to pain and suffering for ALL in our beautiful country....except the corrupt! Lets stop this now, like we once did to the corrupt National Party, its time to find a political party (I don't care what colour their skin is!) that has the best interest of the people at heart. The poorer we get, the less we will be able to fight...we have to let the ANC know that we put it in power, and we can take that away! STOP ROBBING US!!!! WE ARE THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH AFRICA, ITS OUR COUNTRY......WE EMPLOYED YOU TO LOOK AFTER US AND OUR WELL BEING, NOT ENRICH YOURSELVES AND LEAVE US POOR AND BROKEN!!! The white people voted for democracy in 1994, giving each man and women (irrespective of their skin colour) the chance to vote....they knew what the NP was doing was wrong, unjust and corrupt.....that's why they put an end to it. If they had voted for the NP there could (and probably would) have been a civil war with many lives lost...remember, the army and police were loyal to the white government of the time....look at Libya. They did not...they voted AGAINST their own people, they voted AGAINST the policies of this corrupt governing party. It was supposed to change South Africa for the better....for ALL people, irrespective of skin colour! Now South Africans, its time to vote again. I beg you..DON"T BLINDLY VOTE ON SKIN COLOUR, LOOK AROUND YOU, HOW YOU ARE LIVING, ARE YOU HAPPY WITH WHAT YOUR POLITICIANS HAVE DONE FOR YOU??? Also, PLEASE vote, if you don't....it is just the same as voting for the present government. If you do not vote you will be telling the present government you are happy with your present position and your future position in this life. NOTHING WILL CHANGE! YOU WILL CONTINUE TO GET POOR AND LIVE LIKE SLAVES TO THIS GOVERNMENT. WHILST THEY CONTINUE TO GET RICH, FAT AND LAZY OFF OF YOUR HARD WORK....17 years is enough proof of that.

      Madelane - 2011-02-28 07:52

      Indeed Rhino....it is politics and one should know and understand that politicians are arrogant, dishonest and self serving and it has NOTHING to with race. The Gupas are the gangsters behind the scenes and the NATS had the likes of the Oppenheimers and many others. These shadowy "pillars of society" are there to manipulate everything to suit themselves and it is a world wide practice that is as old as mankind......the very depths of dishonesty and deception. Sadly there is NO political party nor politician that can be considered above board, honest or trustworthy. If anyone has a solution to this ongoing yoke around man-kinds neck present the solution. I would love to hear it.

      honky - 2011-02-28 09:02

      So the almost negligible portion of the population who has access to the Internet will read these wise words, teh rest will blindly vote for the ANC.

      Madelane - 2011-02-28 09:13

      Someone said all to accurately....politicians are like nappies, they should be changed often......

      maseratifitt - 2011-02-28 09:26

      For a Rhino, your sight is pretty good. Careful the ANC doesn't steal your horn. Good man.

      AJ - 2011-02-28 11:26

      @Madelane: And for the same reason too..

  • Rhino - 2011-02-28 07:16

    Please good people of South Africa, before you start shouting at each other about the colour of people's skin, remember this is politics. There is no difference between corrupt white politicians and corrupt black politicians.......they are BOTH CORRUPT. CORRUPTION will lead to pain and suffering for ALL in our beautiful country....except the corrupt! Lets stop this now, like we once did to the corrupt National Party, its time to find a political party (I don't care what colour their skin is!) that has the best interest of the people at heart. The poorer we get, the less we will be able to fight...we have to let the ANC know that we put it in power, and we can take that away! STOP ROBBING US!!!! WE ARE THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH AFRICA, ITS OUR COUNTRY......WE EMPLOYED YOU TO LOOK AFTER US AND OUR WELL BEING, NOT ENRICH YOURSELVES AND LEAVE US POOR AND BROKEN!!! The white people voted for democracy in 1994, giving each man and women (irrespective of their skin colour) the chance to vote....they knew what the NP was doing was wrong, unjust and corrupt.....that's why they put an end to it. If they had voted for the NP there could (and probably would) have been a civil war with many lives lost...remember, the army and police were loyal to the white government of the time....look at Libya. They did not...they voted AGAINST their own people, they voted AGAINST the policies of this corrupt governing party. It was supposed to change South Africa for the better....for ALL people, irrespective of skin colour! Now South Africans, its time to vote again. I beg you..DON"T BLINDLY VOTE ON SKIN COLOUR, LOOK AROUND YOU, HOW YOU ARE LIVING, ARE YOU HAPPY WITH WHAT YOUR POLITICIANS HAVE DONE FOR YOU??? Also, PLEASE vote, if you don't....it is just the same as voting for the present government. If you do not vote you will be telling the present government you are happy with your present position and your future position in this life. NOTHING WILL CHANGE! YOU WILL CONTINUE TO GET POOR AND LIVE LIKE SLAVES TO THIS GOVERNMENT. WHILST THEY CONTINUE TO GET RICH, FAT AND LAZY OFF OF YOUR HARD WORK....17 years is enough proof of that.

      ToffaSaffa - 2011-02-28 08:24

      I agree. You dont have a right to complain about the government if you dont VOTE. Please VOTE! Those that dont vote should be frowned upon.

  • DiePriester - 2011-02-28 07:27

    It seems that Gary Naidoo is the spokesperson for Zuma. "The Guptas, through family spokesperson Gary Naidoo, dismissed the allegations as "rubbish" and said they were an attempt to "denigrate" Zuma and his office".

      Sallie - 2011-02-28 07:56

      And so said the Shaiks, Ngeni's, Malema's, etc. followed by the Gupta's, Cele's, etc. They are all "f#$%&*e " corrupt, while the prez covienantly stand and smile.

  • Allin - 2011-02-28 07:32

    Zuma is unaware. Period.

      ihlazo!!! - 2011-02-28 16:37

      @Allin. Pleeease!! AND JZ's Ministers just go and report in Saxonwold without him knowing? How on earth did the Guptas know which minister will be removed/appointed/transferred / reshuffled /before JZ released such info to the taxpayers of RSA? Did JZ actually do the reshuffling himself or did the Gupta boys sit there and played 'umlabalaba" while we slave our asses off to pay tax! Unheard off- that our country is ruled by some foreign indian family-- what an insult to our intelligence. An embarrassment!

  • Mike - 2011-02-28 07:35

    Is this twit aware of anything at all?

  • burtfred - 2011-02-28 07:41

    What is really preposterous is that Zuma is the president, and indeed that the ANC are still in power.

  • golanc2 - 2011-02-28 07:42

    time to walk like egypshens

  • 106106sa - 2011-02-28 07:46

    That's really SURPRISES me Mr Zuma!!!Well...I guess presidents like you are squeeky clean and therefore don't involve yourselves in corruption of the highest order.The name and shame list of thugs and criminals, and pending criminals,(never mind alleged criminals) in the ANC must therefore just be a plot by the west to belittle you?????

  • postscript6167 - 2011-02-28 07:49

    About as believable as Mbeki telling SA that he didn't know anybody with AIDS.

  • golanc2 - 2011-02-28 07:51

    y the anc say nothing on they friend kadafi...on israel they react qiuk.

  • golanc2 - 2011-02-28 07:52

    the anc is our one party state.but for how long??????????????

  • Moomish - 2011-02-28 07:54

    Indians are taking over this country through Zuma it's a silent take over. have you seen how many Pakistani's and all the other trash from Muslim Asian countries is popping up in all the cities and rural areas of this country. ANC it just selling this country to the dogs that failed to make their countries work and are coming here to start useless fake import shops killing our economy. The idiots in government are saying they create jobs but they only do it for themselves and bring more foreigners here. This country will be a Muslim country in 10 years time. If you thought whites were the bad try Indians you will see the endless apartheid. Go ahead Zuma make your millions soon they will be worth nothing when this country goes to war. We will not be ruled by Indians in our own land. Brace yourselves the civil war is coming all our cities look like Kabul there’s so many Asian’s viruses. We might as well call it Asia.

      thulani.ncube1 - 2011-02-28 08:42

      l agree with you Moo,The indians came here 100 years ago.Today they are running our country.Go to Durban and see for yourself.The blacs continuasly fight with other blacs from africa calling them makwerekwere,They dont realise that the real makwerekwere are indians,just their name says it all.Call me racist all you want .In this country when you tell the truth you are racist

      Zee - 2011-02-28 09:55

      At least the Muslims work for their money unlike you darkies!

      postscript6167 - 2011-02-28 11:13

      No, thulani.ncube1, only when you are white and tell the truth are you racist.

      Mike - 2011-02-28 11:57

      @Zee - some work but the majority are slippery!!! Be afraid - be very afraid of the cloth-heads!!

      Zakhele - 2011-02-28 12:30

      Shut up Zee. Thanks Moomish. Agree with you 100% Indians are taking over the country. But I like is this: The day we decide enough is enough we see if they will be able to fight back. You spot on there. South Africa is heading for a brutal civil war. We wil sit by and watch Indians destroying our country under the pretence that they are black. Indians are Indians, finish and klaar. Black people do not belong to the same group with Indians. We don't phone Ministers and Municipalility managers at night and on Sundays to ask them to reserve tenders fro friends. It is Indians who do this. Check who Eskom's Brian Dames is surrounding himself with? Isn't Indians so that a lot of Eskom business is packaged such that it must become private (if it suites Indians) or disbungled to be stand alone SOEs in which case Indians will manipulate JZ and the Ministers again to get their friends to come as PPP and with cahs injection?

  • Faahim - 2011-02-28 07:56

    The Gupta's should start focusing on eradicating poverty in India, this bunch will be the first to immigrate(If they are legally here)if the s**t hits the fan, Zuma on the other hand should start taking proper advise from real South Africans(The People. 2 wrongs dont make a right, Or does it?

  • Nice Guy - 2011-02-28 08:01

    Its a good thing that some Indian is running the operations. Need to put the fear of God into these ministers to get them to do their job. I'll chat to the Guptas and see if they can start a performance scorecard system rather than crapping on the ministers. Those who don't perform must not be allowed to share in any of their ill gotten gains

  • YasButIDunno - 2011-02-28 08:04

    "President Jacob Zuma is unaware of any ministers or deputy ministers being influenced by "individuals" in making key government decisions" Shouldn't that read "....is unaware of any OTHER ministers...."

  • Zakhele - 2011-02-28 08:08

    The ANC is scared of Zuma. Let us please offer our people an alternative to the ANC. I have been thinking a Reality Political Party (RPP) for some time now. I will not comment about these Gupta’s and others who are holding the ANC ransom. But one thing for sure: JZ will not stand up to the Indians and Muslims who are known to hold the ANC ransom. Go ahead shoot me now? Hurl insults at me? I have said it. Indians and Muslims are taking over the country and they are a minority. Is that what we call democracy? Are Indians really black people and they are just Indians???????????

      Luyanda - 2011-02-28 08:20

      Call it COPE 3. Maybe you will end up with 4, 5 and 6.

      lldoidge - 2011-02-28 08:45

      Luyanda, shouldn't you be working? Lithuli house needs a busy boy at the moment. Get spinning fool!

      Gemini - 2011-02-28 11:12

      I see you and Moomish attended the same school - where facts were not always an important part of learning. I BEG OF YOU to please explain how INDIANS = MUSLIM and how are the MUSLIMS holding the ANC to ransom. Dude we are a Minority within a Minority (there are approx less than 2 million INDIANS in South Africa and as INDIAN MUSLIMS we make up less than than half of that figure). The GUPTAS are HINDUS - use Google help you find the difference between HINDUS & MUSLIM. Then when you've become just slightly more educated (which i hope is possible in your case) then come ack & post a more intelligent post.

  • Hamner - 2011-02-28 08:08

    I picked up the below from reading another website and I believe it accurately describes the ANC. Five surgeons from big cities are discussing who makes the best patients to operate on. The first surgeon, from Durban , says, "I like to see accountants on my operating table because when you open them up, everything inside is numbered." The second, from Johannesburg , responds, "Yeah, but you should try electricians! Everything inside them is color coded." The third surgeon, from Bloem, says, "No, I really think librarians are the best, everything inside them is in alphabetical order." The fourth surgeon, from Pretoria chimes in: "You know, I like construction workers... Those guys always understand when you have a few parts left over." But the fifth surgeon, from Cape Town shut them all up when he observed: "You're all wrong. ANC Politicians are the easiest to operate on. There are no guts, no heart, no balls, no brains and no spine, and the head and the ass are interchangeable."

      genet - 2011-02-28 08:29

      Oh Yes. Beautiful

      lldoidge - 2011-02-28 08:34

      Brilliant!

  • callan - 2011-02-28 08:09

    Dont hold your breath SA....JZ will just tell his mates to be a bit more discreet whilst raping the country in the future.... Banana anyone...?

  • buddy jones - 2011-02-28 08:12

    well why are the cabinet ministers listening to them or taking heed from such people - 'where there's smoke there's fire'!!.....c'mon mr zuma admit it and get it over with, or is this another of those cover up's??

  • ludlowdj - 2011-02-28 08:14

    COME JZ, stop looking around with that totally shocked look on your face, and who said anyone was being pressured or influenced, everything is cleared by Luthuli House before it happens, and you and your elitest cronies are all in on the action

  • DW - 2011-02-28 08:20

    You only need to look at the Shabir Shaik situation to realise that a close friendship with the president gives you preferential treatment. When they treat Shabir the same way as they treat Clive Derby-Lewis I will believe that there is no influence, but not until then. It is so clear that there is nepotism, favouritism and that some people are "above the law". Vote this lot of clowns out!

  • geyser.cape - 2011-02-28 08:20

    It's time do a Tunisia here. Let's throw all these capitalist bloodsuckers into prisons, and fire the whole damn government.

  • ludlowdj - 2011-02-28 08:21

    @ Rhino, here's a big difference between the ANC and the NP my large rotund friend, but you can be forgiven I suppose your ilk are notorious for their lack of ....vision? not that I'm not saying the NP wasn't playing the books and lining their own pockets.....just that during their reign the managed to keep the currency value at a high level ($7 to the Rand in 1981)The ANC on the other hand isn't even trying to pretend that they have the interests of the country at heart.

      Nash - 2011-02-28 12:16

      Do you realise that the NP had run the economy into the ground with their policies and it was one of the considerations they had to consider when they all but raised the white flag and surrendered power of a bankrupt country?? If they had options I daresay they would have exercised same. I am also extremely critical of the manner in which the ANC handles many things buts let's NOT be under illusion that the NP were economic better. Let me add, while I'm at it, there while there existed options to vote for more liberal political parties (such as the PFP) the vast majority of the, then, "whites only" electorate voted for the NP at every election since 1948 - are people on this blog that surprised when the ANC attains landslide majorities at every election? For the record I am also critical of the manner in which ANC handles matters but I will not accept that NP regime used as a "model for good governance" in ANY way or form.

  • lldoidge - 2011-02-28 08:22

    He was also unaware of his corrupt relationship with Shabi Shaik! That's what happens when you have an uneducated buffoon running a country, to the ground I may add!!!!

  • Alwyn - 2011-02-28 08:24

    Selectively unaware,,,,All the Goverment cronies are in one bed,they know what the next one is doing,but i like it ,the ANC keeps screwing up before the elections

  • afro broda - 2011-02-28 08:24

    WTF is happening in this country. Zuma is a moron. i read the article on sunday times. BEE has been transformed to ZEE. The Guptas replaces the Shaik family. Where is Malema? I think we need you to remove this Idiot you have led us to believe that theres conspiracy against him.

  • Francois - 2011-02-28 08:25

    Janeekop Zuma, you are also unaware when you are bribed in the arms scandal. you are unaware that the proper protection against HIV is to abstain from sex especially with HIV positive women. You are also unaware of the fact that a condom is better protection than a shower if you realy have to have sex with an HIV positive women, disregarding the fact that you have three wives. You are also unaware that if you have sex with your friend's daughter, she might het pregnant. You are unaware of human rights abuses in Zimbabwe. So this is not a surpise. It will be great that once you become aware of things, that you act, but now your symbol should be the asstrech.

      Francois - 2011-02-28 09:41

      Sorry - spelled that wrong - it should be the ostrich

  • Dirk - 2011-02-28 08:30

    Ther's alot this idiot Zuma does not know!

      Mike - 2011-02-28 08:52

      There's a lot he knows - about how to use his middle leg!

  • bill - 2011-02-28 08:31

    If it isn't Kogl its the Shaiks or the Guptas . This Amoral buffoon is always in someones pocket.The ANC need to get rid of this ignoramus.

  • Mike - 2011-02-28 08:34

    Zoo-ma - you (ANC alliance) are the puppets - the cloth-heads are pulling the strings - be afraid - be very afraid!!