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Zuma's speech ambitious - analysts

2012-02-10 07:14

Cape Town - Analysts described President Jacob Zuma's State of the Nation address as "very ambitious", and said it lacked detail on implementation.

Political analyst at the Centre for Policy Studies, Aubrey Matshiqi, said should Zuma's "ambitious" plans on infrastructure development materialise, they would depend on a partnership between government, the public sector and civil society.

It would also depend on the performance of the global economy.

"One weakness is the absence of a pact between our social partners like labour, the private sector and the state," said Matshiqi.

"With the absence of these, all plans will come to naught."

Matshiqi hoped Zuma and his successors would in future focus their attention on this "special pact".

Land

On land redistribution, Matshiqi said he was waiting to see what the government was doing to change direction in that regard.

"It would be interesting to see what specific measures will be put in place to accelerate land restitution," he said.

Zuma admitted the land redistribution process was "slow and tedious".

He acknowledged that the willing buyer-willing seller option had not been the best way to address this question.

Only eight percent of land, of the 30% target by 2014, had been distributed.

Implementation

Political commentator, Susan Booysen, said she expected more detail from Zuma's speech.

"It was a typical type of talking, assuring people that government was working on it but not much said on implementation," she said.

Booysen said it was going to be quite a few years before South Africa saw any impact from the infrastructure investment plan.

There probably was not a short-term solution to problems in the country.

"Desperate people will be looking around how they can survive and bring food on the table this year and next year," she said.

Comments
  • Robert - 2012-02-10 07:21

    Nothing but HOT AIR - just TALK

      Patrick - 2012-02-10 08:44

      the president promised 2 million jobs two years ago.during recession and we lost 1 million jobs. he created 1 million jobs lol. what a joker of a president

  • Mike - 2012-02-10 07:25

    Way to ambitious... that speech yesterday may as well never happened. Firstly who is going to pay for all of this? Second don't we already have a back log of current infrastructure to be fixed - well we didn't fix those, now we want to build new somewhere else? Were any of the burning issues addressed - no. Just another load of nothing!

      Marcell - 2012-02-10 07:37

      This lot can't fix anything properly. They fix a pothole today, two days later it is a bigger pothole. A typical ancESTOR believe all this cr@p and are to thick to remember any of the promises of a year ago.

      richard.damaseb - 2012-02-10 08:11

      u know u y asked mike

  • Marius - 2012-02-10 07:28

    Zuma and ANC = LIES!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Paul - 2012-02-10 07:28

    Nothing new here, last years speech was just as ambitious, like the rest of South Africa talk talk talk talk and very little action. The President and his team still fall about 2 million jobs short of their previously promised target. Maybe this lot should spend less time and resources with pomp and ceremony and do so bloody work and skip the soap box grand standing.

      Vince.York - 2012-02-10 07:44

      As a good South Efrican you should not have a memory stretching as far back as last year chap. Just be happy taking the next packet of pap and a T shirt made in china.

  • Larry - 2012-02-10 07:32

    Everything he said should be taken with a pinch of Salt. Typical ANC chat show from which nothing will be implemented.

  • Tallica7 - 2012-02-10 07:32

    Mazibuko said it best where is the government going to get R300 billion! Consider yank patriot economics and the EU crises! And a social welfare budget that's ever growing!

  • Marcell - 2012-02-10 07:34

    I would like to know where is the $$$ going to come from for all of this. People that lives on grants don't really contribute to creating $$$ for the fiscus.

      Duncan Thabiso Mphailane - 2012-02-10 08:16

      "People that lives"??<-----English classes recommended!

      Marcell - 2012-02-10 08:43

      Not needed seeing a dumb @ss such as yourself could read it.

  • ian.rundle1 - 2012-02-10 07:35

    Nothing but talk, talk, talk. They have proved to be absolutely ineffectual when it comes to putting the substance in place. Once more a "look good" speach fro those who cannot analyse it.

      Andre - 2012-02-10 07:51

      They (ANC) are hopefully realizing now that it is totally different to govern a country than to purely be a "revolutionary" organisation!

      Marcell - 2012-02-10 08:07

      Way easier to destroy things than to maintain or create new one's.

  • eric.vanvuuren - 2012-02-10 07:35

    His still the funnies turtle of them all. Step aside for a real prezzy!! Please.

      Duncan Thabiso Mphailane - 2012-02-10 08:14

      Do you mean a "white prezzy"?

      Marcell - 2012-02-10 08:45

      Can you name a competant black one?

      eric.vanvuuren - 2012-02-10 09:22

      Just put some-one that can do the job. Some-one with no conflicting business interests, who has the good sense of uniting all the people of South Africa. You know some-one that will look at the unfairness of over taxing the country and give people a fear positive outlook, and stop stealing from our future by borrowing more and more money from the firkin Chinese.

  • Marcell - 2012-02-10 07:40

    I saw yesterday some idiot, mec of education blame Verwoerd that maths is difficult. "Verwoerd made these subjects difficult because he was afraid of blacks"

      Monique - 2012-02-10 08:12

      idiot! lol-shows you how little grey matter he has. It's not only white people that excell in math, some of the best actuaries I know are black guys.

  • Vince.York - 2012-02-10 07:42

    The MOST important issue ever in SA since zuma and his entire dynasty have invaded the public coffers in various guises, is to to herald in expensive party party's. So WHEN is the next multi RBillion bash to be? That should set at least 300 "events managers" into motion and a handful of budding musicians onto the road of quickest richest tenderpreneurs in the world, and not one with a set of audited financial statements in true Limpoopooh and DEAT style!

  • Ashley - 2012-02-10 07:42

    Implementation is a starting point of moving forward. You can plan all you want but failure to see it materialize is useless. If you Mr President Didn't see any change from your last speech, clearly you have not achieved or managed to implement your plans. Please leave your post and hand it over to someone who is a decision maker and Producer!

      Yondela - 2012-02-10 08:31

      @ Ashley who do u have i mind to run for presidency, cause as far as I am concerned they all talk with no action. Unless u think Helen Zille will make a difference.

      Ashley - 2012-02-10 08:37

      Well, i live in the Western Cape, which is the best run Province in all of South Africa. If the MAJORITY stop thinking RACE and give this person a chance, maybe, maybe we will see action but the MAJORITY are to naive and dom to think for themselves.

  • Kathleen - 2012-02-10 07:48

    Tell me the old, old story - Zuma is a good salesman, sells promises but delivers excuses.

      Yondela - 2012-02-10 08:38

      As if u would have done a better job!

      Marcell - 2012-02-10 08:59

      I doubt it if anyone can outsteal the current bunch.

  • Sechaba - 2012-02-10 07:57

    i was more impressed when the president said something about Bafana Bafana

  • Ben - 2012-02-10 07:57

    The comments made in response to this speech were exceptionally civil. O nly that was unexpected, nothing else.

  • Charmain - 2012-02-10 08:00

    Does he even know what he is talking about, he can't even say the Enlish words correct how the hell does he think ll must understand his way of speaking, send heim for lessons in speach. this country is going the same way as zim PITY

      Duncan Thabiso Mphailane - 2012-02-10 08:10

      When he goes for speech lessons, you must attend spelling lessons! #MajorFail

      TenRas1 - 2012-02-10 08:18

      As if u can pronounce Zulu words....Typical white!!!!

      Xavier7034 - 2012-02-10 08:19

      Yup @Duncan - we could include spelling AND grammar as well. Can YOU speak or write ZULU @Charmain?

      Sekalf - 2012-02-10 08:28

      @ Duncan -About Duncan 'I,m a person that likes to be around honest people and I belive in helping the people around me.' HA ha, funny - perhaps you should look a bit further than you can spit - and take some English lessons too.

      Sechaba - 2012-02-10 08:38

      @Charmain i think you wanted to write "him" instead of "heim" and "speech" instead of "speach", are you sure its not you who wrotethe SPEACH for Mr. President?

      TenRas1 - 2012-02-10 10:06

      @ Sechaba hahahahahahahaha, u just made my day. I'm reading the Speach now kikikiki

      Uknowimrite - 2012-02-10 13:26

      charmain - talk about making a fool of yourself!

  • elizabeth.vandyk - 2012-02-10 08:15

    Nothing said about education.... sub standard education = sub standard qualification = sub standard work force = unemployable citizen = poverty continues............ Start at the begining if you want to fix SA's problems.....Empty Promises ;BBBEE ; and free hand outs create nothing but poverty!!!!!!!!!!

      Duncan Thabiso Mphailane - 2012-02-10 08:51

      BBBEE is here to stay. Get over it!

      Marcell - 2012-02-10 09:02

      I agree that BEE is here to stay as our black brothers end sistas need al the help they can get to help them get over their inferior complex. Pity actually. Thought we are all capable of the same things, seems not to be the case.

      Clive - 2012-02-10 09:17

      @Duncan, all you do is correct peoples' English, which, I agree, is sometimes rather poor. Why don't you come up with something intellegent, like an explanation for the R2.7 BILLION lost/stolen in Limpopo, and BILLIONS more countrywide due to incompetence, corruption, straight theft, etc etc? 99.99% of it by ANC-deployed cadres. Money that should have been spent on health and education, and uplifting the poor who blindly vote ANC election after election as they know no better than to believe the Zumas of this world.

  • Schalk - 2012-02-10 08:21

    One must feel a modicum of pity for him; the people he put in place to run the various ministries are simply NOT qualified for the job, thats why he gives the speeches he does. Zuma does not have the ability to manage his government, period! Drastic situations require drastic measures, can they not see that!?

      Marcell - 2012-02-10 08:52

      Anyone better than the current bunch will be better the zoomer. They don't believe in a leader surrounding himself with clever people. Da leada needs to be da cleva one, eish, hand me another banana.

  • Andrew - 2012-02-10 08:26

    I got so irritated last night when I heard lies upon lies, changed the channel to 122 instead.

  • Uknowimrite - 2012-02-10 08:44

    i cant wait for the budget speech, way too many millions and billions mentioned in this one.

  • Vicker - 2012-02-10 08:53

    Instead of colourful and ambitios rhetoric and plain old fasioned BS, what we need to do is: 1.Focus on fixing the current infrastructural problems and backlogs we have, instead of already planning how to spend billions of Rands we do not have. 2.Focus on QUALITY education - up the pass/fail limit at school to 60%. Rather have fewer matriculants each year who are better educated than a mass of dummies who are useless. The learners will learn quickly enough to work harder at their school work to achieve higher marks. Fire teachers and principles who achieve the lowest 20% pass rate 3.Grow the economy by focusing on SMME's - remove minimum wage, provide huge tax holiday incentives for expansion programs, and specially to start-up concerns. Grow the taxable base first, the taxes will come later 4.Reduce the number of Gumment employees by 50% - outsource to private companies rather 5.Do away with AA and BBEEE - neither of these programs work 6.Disempower Cosatu and other trade unions 7.Give up the land reform program - it is a very costly way of turning once-productive, food producing land into useless derelict deserts 8.Heres the rub Showerhead: Put a time-frame to everything, and fire anyone and everyone who does not perform 100% as they should (including yourself)... 9.And stop promising things that you cannot deliver!!!!!!!!!!! There will be a lot of unhappy people in the beginning, but do we need a country full of happy, hungry people, or do we need to grow our economy?

      Marcell - 2012-02-10 09:06

      Sorry, you are way to bright to be an ancESTOR.

  • Perfume5 - 2012-02-10 08:59

    Off topic, I must say he was throwing a lot of large figures around, has he an idea of where this money will be coming from???????

      Andrew - 2012-02-10 10:04

      The money will be coming from us, the Naïve Tax Payer - there is jack that we can do about it.

  • wiehann.uys - 2012-02-10 09:01

    The mob is fickle they'll moan about the situation they are in, but at the same time be more that happy to get another spoon full empty undeliverable premisses. Our government will promise THIS and then not deliver, and then to distract from the fact that they couldn't they make even bigger more preposterous promises, and the masses fall for it every time! "maybe this time we will see a change" lol apparently there is no cure for naivety even when the truth stares you in the face! IF YOU CAN'T GOVERN MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T...

  • Clive - 2012-02-10 09:04

    The first paragraph of the above report could have been applied to last year's speech as well, and we know how much of that was achieved - almost zilch. Just another few million cubic metres of hot air had been expelled to appease the uneducated mass of voting fodder.

  • Vicker - 2012-02-10 09:09

    Quote: "One weakness is the absence of a pact between our social partners like labour, the private sector and the state". In a perfect world, the Gumment will create, maintain and grow a suitable environment in which private sector can flourish. Private sector will then operate unhindered within the law, with support from Gumment to expand and grow, earning substantial profits for business owners. Labour will be grateful for their jobs, and will not go on strike because they will then immediately lose their jobs and be successfully sued by their employers for loss of income. However, right now it is as follows: Gumment makes it as hard as possible to start and maintain your own business. They tax businesses from day one, (high) minimum wages for low productivity which is a direct result of employee (over)protection. No incentives for growth and expansion (read: job creation). No protection from the whims and fancies of the employees, which disincentavises employers from hiring more labour. How do we grow our economy under these circumstances?

  • sandytaylor11 - 2012-02-10 09:09

    iar! Liar! pants on fire!!!!!!

  • Wayne - 2012-02-10 09:28

    A tenderpreneurs delight!

      Andrew - 2012-02-10 10:06

      Just you wait and see the kinds of corruption that stems from the speech and all the billions they'll be spending? How much exactly does it cost to build a single university? I dont think R300m will be enough for two

  • Lehlohonolo - 2012-02-10 10:19

    at some point propaganda is not going to work

  • Sbo - 2012-02-10 10:33

    I certainly agreed with most S.A citizens we need implementation of any plans promised, we will be patient we must coming from an apartheid era, so far the gorvenment of A.N.C has delivered and match the standard of living.But we need to see more tight grips on poverty, unemployment & corruption.

  • comurray - 2012-02-10 11:40

    Just promises, promises and more promises, where will the money come from to create his promises. How about him and his mates paying back the billions they have stashed in off shore accounts. They should be forced to pay back every cent with interest. Then, and only then will there be sufficient to do what has to be done.

      Uknowimrite - 2012-02-10 13:36

      good question,where will the money come from?if every year in the budget speech a chunk is reserved for what the president ''came up with'' yet 12 months later in the state of nation address the presideny still rolls out the same ''plans'' as 12 months ago, yet the budget has been irrepairably dented.....does the treasury have to reserve another chunk of the budget for the same idea???

  • Wandile - 2012-02-10 12:36

    after I read almost half of this comments. I have noticed that not all but most white people realy don't support in bulilding this country to a better life for all. not all but most of them still believe life back in the days duting apartheid where they share evrything to whites only was the best. It came to my attention that they still sees black community as the course of this country not grow wealthy wise. When the former president nelson Mandela mobilise for peace in this country, preaching to understand one another irrespective of colour, race and gender. To me fellow white South africans you really undermined the hard work he ahs done. South africa is the last country to have democarcy, but we are the most improving country in promoting socialism and creating jobs and better life for all. Can u guys realy think what could have happen if Mr Mandela didn't teach all south african the need to forgive. Please let us work together to leave his legacy. Stop criticising but share useful comments and not teach ur childs to hate but to accept one another as one nation. Peace in our land.

      Mike - 2012-02-10 13:20

      Wandile - I am sorry to say but you got it wrong. We the "white" people support building this country more than anyone else. Of the 4 Million people who are paying tax - how many are white? What I as a "white" South African is concerned about is hog-wash. As much as President Mandela ensured peace in South Africa - remember who voted and gave De Klerk his backing in 1991 - 89% of us. As the majority of whites were also fed up with Apartheid and its trimmings - I include myself into that group. But as a democratic citizen of this country I will criticize anyone including Zuma. Legacy in this country can only be made by proper leaders. Verwoerd, Botha and Co and our current Zuma simply fit into the same category - a populist president with lots of hot air - but no substance. Here are my points: 1) Job Creation - you can only create jobs if you create investor confidence and uplift the current "labor force" - spending Billions of tax payers money on "development" will bring nothing. How many of those who built our 2010 stadiums and roads are now unemployed? 2) Mining - control mining, enforce by grants empowerment, and education - but as long as "nationalization" hangs over the mines no progress will be made. 3) Infrastructure - aham - what happened in the last 18 years to upkeep hospitals, schools, roads, electricity etc... you have the answer yourself. 4) Housing - educate and uplift people than they build their own houses! 5) Electricity - well we all joke about Eishkom...

      Mike - 2012-02-10 13:28

      6) Education - BIG issue - and one that has dropped continuously. We are celebrating a 30% pass rate - a JOKE! Invest Billions into that - and you will see a change - where you generate a society and people who are educated, well informed, and who have skills - imagine the off spin... I recall the saying of a rather high up ANC MEC - who said, quote: "We keep them stupid - so they will continue to vote for us" quote end - and that is not a myth - that is the truth. 7) Health - State Hospitals are the new butcheries of South Africa - government has failed dismally to improve basic health care - and now we want to start a National Health Scheme - one does not need to be a rocket scientist to know where this is going to end... 8) Land Reform - again what is the purpose of reforming land when people are uneducated to do something with it, how many farms lay now in shambles - just look North across the Limpopo. Educate people - make sure they have the knowledge of what they can do - and than talk about land reform. Build the foundation first - and than build the walls and the roof. 9) Labour Broking - as long as we have a volatile economic climate with uncertainties and a quarter of the population or more unemployed you will not fix it - never. One needs substance to create an economic climate for growth - as our "peers" Brazil, Malaysia and others do - that problem will eliminate itself. 10) Social Cohesion - I frankly do not care what the name is of the House of the President,

      Mike - 2012-02-10 13:35

      or if we purchase Winnie Mandela's house - as long as people live below the poverty line we should ensure that they get what they deserve. A future, prospects and a government who serves them - and not as Zuma said last night "rules" them. 350.000 jobs gained - and 1.4 Million lost in various sectors - did Zuma talk about that - no he did not. Education failure - how can the president stand up and say - hey all is great - when schools still do not have school books? How is he paying for all of that? Has he addressed the biggest problem in South Africa - corruption - and actually taken a stand personally against it? No he hasn't - else at least 10 members of that same parliament would not have been sitting in the same house listening to his "speech". And what an irony of Zuma to talk about healthy living - was he not the same person who had unprotected sex with an HIV positive woman? Wandile - I and many of us want intellectual leadership - a president, ministers and government who takes this country further, up, better - for the benefit of all - and most important the masses who vote for the ANC - but still live in sewerage, poverty and have to queue for 10 hours to get issued aspirins at a state hospital. I want to see a future in South Africa - "my" country - and I want leadership that can bring this - regardless of who is the President - but I am tired of hogwash, empty promises and hot air, and everything a 1st year economist graduate will tell you is rubbish!

      Theo - 2012-02-10 13:40

      Wrong Wandile, the problem here is not that we as white South Africans don't support the building of this country. In fact, having a black middle-class will ultimately save this country. Reason for saying so: One who has something (a job, a house, a family etc.) that he cares for and worked for himself would do everything in his power to keep it and build on it. He will not jeoperdize it by being lazy or by becoming involved with dodgy dealings or some form of criminality. The problem however comes in where we as white South Africans are the ones paying tax, and let's face it, even though there are a small number of blacks out there paying tax, most fall below the lowest tax bracket. We are the ones supporting the building of this country. To make matters worse, we see our hard-earned tax money being wasted on all kinds of nonsense and being stolen by corrupt government officials. Also, our government thinks that creating jobs means giving people work in mines and other low paying jobs. Damn, how the hell can someone earning R3000 (or whatever the minimum wage is) per month afford to buy property, a car, go on holiday and generally live a proper life? Unfortunately, that is all people are good for because government is not coming to the party regarding education that will allow people to be employed in higher paying jobs. We are sitting with a serious problem in this country Wandile, the blame of which sits squarly on the shoulders of the ANC.

  • richard.botha1 - 2012-02-10 13:22

    The reality is if we don’t spend more Billions we cannot make more Billionaires. The old ANC regime created some Billionaires and forgot the rest of the cronies. The new bunch wants a bit of money now as well. We must not forget that just with Zuma, he has a whole bunch of wives, children and family members that need flashy sport scars and Rolex watches to. It can’t only be the Mbeki crowed that has all the fun. I don’t know what you guys are complaining about, we still have about 4 million taxpayers and the banks are still dishing out money. Hey think about it we haven’t reached the Zimbabweans level yet, and when we do man we can worry about it then. That’s tomorrow’s problems and the ANC is now in charge. The ANC will follow suite and sort out those problems the old fashioned way, a box of matches and a couple of tyres. This is the liberation movement that believes that liberation is forcing everyone into believing what you believe. We know what they believe, they have a track record all over Africa, the leaders must be stinking rich and the rest of the masses poor. How can one manipulate everyone if people are educated and rich. Be realistic please.

      Wandile - 2012-02-10 13:43

      Thanx very much Richard and Mike for your positive eresponse. I take this column as of teaching one another what we don't know. Mike the points you mentioned are really the one to be address then what most but not all has been saying. You have made it clear of what you believe can be the solution of our country's current problems. for me you have adress the issue at hand then to criticise as others. If we can all comments on issues and recommend the solution, i guess that can play a huge role in building a future for our society. Please readers bear with me, Im not saying the the ruling party is perfect or they don't fail us somewhere, but we have have kids which we need to teach them how to leave, treat and respect other races. here my vision si that black or white, indian or coloured, that we all enjoy the fruits of democracy, by not criticising political party based on racism or colour. we must teach our children to choose party of their choice, whethert ANC nor DA etc. this thing of aparting one another because of colour must come to an end. I love S.A and the people who live in it. Lets spread love and peace. God Bless.

  • Uknowimrite - 2012-02-10 13:30

    the state of the nation address HAD to take place, as for the speech - well he HAD to make one too, nothing new hopefully his office will implement because clearly they are adamant about what the country needs, its the same idealogy they had last year.

  • richard.botha1 - 2012-02-10 14:19

    Wandile this has nothing to do with colour and everything to do with colour. The government is stripping from those that previously had and are giving to themselves. If they where giving it to the masses and we saw the country continue on an upward trend I personally would have no problem to continue to fund the government coffers and grant everyone their day in the sun. The reality is the gap between rich and poor is increasing and the middle class is disappearing The problem is we see to many politicians, like the city manager of Tshwane being given 100% salary increases, from 1.3mil to 2.7 mil. We see to many government departments being filled with absolute incompetence, to such an extent that they are placed under administration. We see the squatter’s camps getting bigger and bigger and we see Zumas cousins get deals of 4.5 Billion when it comes to the minerals that were supposed to be nationalised for the good of all. We see roads that were supposed to cost 20 billion cost 40 billion because everyone is on the take. We see our electricity bulls go up over 100% over the last couple of years because of incompetence. Wake up wake up wake up, Zimbabwe is right next door. Just remember they are all here. Where do you think you are going to run when it looks like that over here. Do you want to be the one drowning of the coast of Europe because you cannot survive in Africa.

  • mabotjak - 2012-02-10 15:45

    Ag man give credit where it is due. How many hours would it take the president to explain implementation processes on every issue he mentioned. The speech talked to the ordinary South African. On par with Job creation, economic development infrastructure improvement and strengthening with of the education system..... Almost concise. Some , it was a fairly good speech, it address a range of burning issues. Credit should be given to the pres- it is only just to do so.

  • Phuti - 2012-02-10 19:34

    I liked the part when he talked about assisting those who eans between R3000 and R15000 to be able to buy house.now he has talked ,he has to prove by action.I still feel a new political party is needed urgently in South Africa.

  • Zebelon - 2012-02-10 21:54

    Zuma reminds one of the old saying that after all is said and done, so much more is often said than done. Seemingly, the purpose of much that is in the address is for purposes of creating impressions rather than reality, as always. There is no visitation of the much absent implementation in all his theoretical visions.

  • Zebelon - 2012-02-10 22:00

    The private sector and industry create jobs and upliftment, and not government. Please learn from the other developing countries.Incidentally, your labour laws tend to be an impediment to the much needed investment from across the globe.

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