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Abbas gets standing ovation from UN

2011-09-24 10:09

Ramallah - Thousands of jubilant, flag-waving Palestinians watched on outdoor screens across the West Bank and cheered their president as he submitted his historic request for recognition of a state of Palestine to the United Nations.

Mahmoud Abbas's defiant stance, pushing for UN recognition over strong objections from the US and Israel, has struck a chord with Palestinians increasingly disillusioned after nearly two decades of failed efforts to bring them independence.

At the UN General Assembly, Abbas's announcement on Friday was met by a standing ovation, a stirring sight for Palestinians who felt their plight had largely been forgotten.

In the city of Nablus, thousands packed into the main square, decorated with large Palestinian flags and posters of Abbas. Fathers came with children on their shoulders.

Young men climbed onto surrounding rooftops. Elderly women were assisted by younger relatives.

‘Countries must support us’

The crowd cheered throughout the speech, roaring ecstatically when Abbas, known as Abu Mazen, announced from the podium of the General Assembly that he had submitted the request for full UN membership.

"We are here celebrating because Abu Mazen is making us a state. We want to have our own state, like any other country. All countries must support us," said Reem al-Masri, a 30-year-old schoolteacher, who lost a brother and two cousins in fighting with Israel during the second Palestinian uprising against occupation a decade ago.

"This is our land. We're going to be strong in it until it's liberated. When you have a state all your dreams come true," she said.

In Ramallah, the seat of Abbas's government, a crowd of several thousand cheered, whistled and chanted "God is great" during their leader's speech. Fuad Ashilla, 50, said it's important for Abbas not succumb to American pressure to withdraw his request.

Some Palestinians said they were inspired by the wave of protests across the Arab world calling for political freedom.

"As you saw in the Arab world, when the people go to the street they say what people want," said Ghassan Jabr, 47, at Yasser Arafat Square in Ramallah. "If this is what people want, then this must happen."

Not happy with Netanyahu

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed the General Assembly shortly after Abbas, saying he was ready to make painful compromises for peace, but that the Palestinians must take Israeli security concerns seriously. In the West Bank city of Hebron, several spectators threw shoes at an outdoor screen during Netanyahu's speech in a show of contempt.

The joy over Abbas's move was marred by violence just hours earlier. Near the West Bank village of Qusra, Israeli soldiers shot dead a Palestinian man during rock-throwing clashes between the villagers and Israeli settlers, according to witnesses and military accounts.

Earlier Friday, Palestinians supporting the recognition bid clashed with Israeli soldiers in three West Bank locations.

At Qalandiya, a major Israeli checkpoint between the West Bank and Jerusalem, Israeli troops fired tear gas to disperse Palestinian stone-throwers.

The confrontations lasted several hours, and by late afternoon, medics said some 70 Palestinians had been injured by rubber-coated steel pellets or suffered tear gas inhalation.

In the West Bank village of Nabi Saleh, demonstrators carried a chair painted in the UN's signature blue to symbolize the quest for recognition. They burned Israeli flags and posters of President Barack Obama, and threw stones before being enveloped by tear gas fired by Israeli troops. Clashes were also reported in the nearby village of Bilin.

Protests could become violent

Abbas has called for peaceful marches in support of his bid to win UN recognition of a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and east Jerusalem - territories Israel captured in the 1967 Mideast War.

Friday night's rallies indicated that his people are heeding that call, though both Israeli and Palestinian officials have expressed concerns that demonstrations could spill over into violence.

Last month, militants infiltrated Israel from Egypt, killing eight Israelis. Six Egyptian soldiers were killed as Israel pursued the attackers.

Full UN membership can only be bestowed by the UN Security Council, where Abbas's request will almost certainly be derailed - either by a failure to win the needed nine votes in the 15-member body or by a US veto if the necessary majority is obtained.

The Palestinians say they are seeking full UN membership to underscore their right to statehood, but have left open the option of a lesser alternative - a non-member observer state. Such a status would be granted by the General Assembly, where the Palestinians enjoy broad support.

Siding with Israel, Obama has said a Palestinian state can only be established as a result of negotiations, and that there is no short-cut to independence.

Abbas has said negotiations remain his preference, but that he will not resume talks - frozen since 2008 - unless Israel agrees to the pre-1967 frontier as a baseline and freezes all settlement construction on occupied land.

Israeli PM not budging

The Palestinian demands are widely backed by the international community, including the US, but Obama has been unable to persuade Israel's hardline prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, to agree to them.

Netanyahu says he wants to negotiate without preconditions and accuses the Palestinians of missing an opportunity for peace. Abbas says settlement expansion pre-empts the outcome of negotiations by creating facts on the ground.

Abbas enjoys broad popular support at home for his recognition bid, but his main political rival, the Islamic militant Hamas, opposes it. Hamas has ruled the Gaza Strip since seizing it from Abbas in a violent takeover in 2007.

Gaza's Hamas prime minister, Ismail Haniyeh, said on Friday that Abbas was giving up Palestinian rights by seeking recognition for a state in the pre-1967 borders.

On Friday evening, several Hamas officials watched the speech at an office in Gaza City, taking notes and exchanging text messages with leaders of the movement in Syria and Lebanon.

Hamas's founding charter calls for the destruction of Israel and a state in all of the territory between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River.

"The Palestinian people do not beg the world for a state, and the state can't be created through decisions and initiatives," Haniyeh said. "States liberate their land first and then the political body can be established."

Comments
  • Piet Skiet - 2011-09-24 10:41

    The USA will most probably keep supplying the Israelis with weapons (of mass detruction) to be used against civilian Palestinians. When does the world take notice of this? Interesting that both the US and Israel boycotted the UN meeting yesterday.

      Bratboy - 2011-09-24 11:22

      Not sure how it works, I think if the US boycott they cannot exercise their VETO power. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm makes you think, "politics"

      Met - 2011-09-24 11:27

      May God, the only Living God, the God of Abraham ,Isaac and Jacob, bless Israel.The UN is nothing but an international circus which has been hi-jacked by corrupt third world dictatorships and Israel and the US should brush them aside for what they are not. Of all the corrupt states/entities in the world, the palestinian/philistine authority is regarded as one of the most corrupt, and that says a lot.

      letsee - 2011-09-24 12:23

      Well deserved.

      vis vang - 2011-09-24 12:25

      Met, I don't want to believe in a God that blesses Israel at the expense of everyone else. Because you claim they are corrupt, that makes it ok to oppress them. By your logic lets start oppressing all people where governments are corrupt.

      Met - 2011-09-24 12:27

      I see the islamic freternity is out in force this morning, not to mention their deceived skivvys

      WATCHMAN - 2011-09-24 16:20

      Zec 12:1-3 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. (2) Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. (3) And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

      Megan - 2011-09-24 18:50

      Met, your comments show nothing but pure ignorance. You have the right to choose which side you defend, but please do some research into the conflict regarding the Israelis and the Palastinians. The true aggressors have always been the Israelis, who decided to take over land which did not and never had belonged to them. What the Israelis have done and continue to do to the vast majority of a population who were there first is probably 10 times worse than what the Apartheid government did to the people of this country. When the Israeli's decided to take up occupation in Palestine, the Arab population were more than willing to live peacefully with them, until it became very clear that the Israeli policy was to force them out, even if it meant that the only way they could do that was by slaughtering the entire population of Palestinian Arabs. Good job Mahmoud Abbas, may the world finally stand up to the bullies and may your people finally find peace.

      Messenger - 2011-09-24 19:28

      No Megan, you are the ignorant one. The Israelis are not above criticism, but we should not support Muslims who terrorise and seek the destruction of Israel. Do you know what Islam really is about? Do some research. Islam is an anti-Jewish and anti-Christian religion. That does not mean I hate Muslims, but I am very wary of their agenda and I do not trust them.

      Organist-1 - 2011-09-24 20:35

      Megan, I don't know what history you are talking about. Your re-written brainwashed history? we are talking here about the difference between the Ark of the Covenant and Dagon worshipped that is worshiped by the Philistines. The promise of the land was given to Moses by the highest world authority --viz GOD. Disobedience caused them to be taken captive into Babylon But Jeremiah and Nehemia set about to rebuild Jerusalem that was destroyed by the Philistines and drive them out of the Land they illegally occupied. Israel today is but a fraction of the size originally given to them by DIVINE proclamation. Hitler tried to exterminate them and look what happened to Hitler. Now these Philistines are trying to do the same ----- Watch this space-----

      iranianprince - 2011-09-25 18:16

      Every one forgets that the Arabs are responsible for the Palastine's plight. They are the one that displaced them prior to the 6 day war. If palastine gets statehood there going to be sh*t like non-other

  • Harold - 2011-09-24 10:53

    And the latest Israel has been selling helicopters to Iran and yet the USA still support them. Makes one wonder.

      Nico - 2011-09-24 18:53

      Harold you are clearly mistaken, get your facts straight.

  • Zion - 2011-09-24 11:07

    One has only to hope that something constructive comes out of this meeting. If the US and Israel try to boycot the proceedings it would be a sad day. these people only want the land they claim is their own, not much more.

      Met - 2011-09-24 11:44

      I have a stronger claim to all the beach properties in Clifton, than what the arabs have to Israeli land

      vis vang - 2011-09-24 12:29

      Do you really Met? Show me the evidence, or better yet show me the deed where God gave the land to the Jews

      Met - 2011-09-24 12:58

      God does not need to show me or you anything.

      Met - 2011-09-24 14:15

      Sorry, but only fools could give me a thumbs down on my last remark. If anyone thinks that God does have to show them, say so, but I say again: GOD OWES US NOTHING MORE THAN JESUS HE ALLOWED TO DIE ON A CROSS FOR OUR SINS.You may not like the idea but every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord- even Mohammed. For most however, it will be too late

      Truthseeker2 - 2011-09-24 18:52

      Met, when Jesus Christ returns are you expecting the Israeli regime to welcome him with open arms? I hope you awaken from your delusion sooner rather than later.

      Megan - 2011-09-24 18:59

      When Moses lead the Jews to the so-called "promised land" they were required to remove, by force, the people who had already settled there. So MET, even in Biblical times, the Jews were still the agressors, who forced people off land so that they could call it their own. Please get your history right before posting pathetic comments. At the end of the 7th century there were far more Arabs in that area than there were Jews. In the weeks preceeding the "creation" of Israel, Jewish people opted to rather move to the States and Britian. More than 1 million immigrated to those places prefering NOT to "return" to land that was promised to them. The Balfour Convention which handed over that land was made by Britian. Please explain to me how it's even conceivable that a European country had the right to dictate what happened to NON-European territory while showing a flat disregard for the presences or wishes of the vast majority (Arabs) who had lived in that area since long before the 7th century?

      Organist-1 - 2011-09-24 20:48

      vis vang. The deed is in the Bible. why not read it some day? And Met --- Spot-on. And Megan again --- There was no "socalled" promised land. It WAS promised land and He signed the deed of sale with the blood of His Son who the ROMANS ---NOT the jews--- nailed to the cross for YOUR and My sins. And @Truthseeker, No. the majority of Israeli will welcome Him with the same open arms that the Pharisees and Herod welcomed him 2000 years ago. The Palestinians will quake in their boots because they will know that once again, David will slay Goliath and history will repeat itself.

      Messenger - 2011-09-24 22:06

      @Megan Before the First World War, the Ottoman Empire ruled over almost the entire Islamic world and over large parts of Europe. They made a mess of it, murdering about 3 million Christians during the First World War (in Islamic jihad), to name one of their atrocities. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire, Britain and France were entrusted to divide this huge chunk of land and some territories became mandate territories under British (e.g. Palestine, Jordan, Egypt) and French (e.g. Lebanon and Syria) rule. I hope this answers your question.

  • Ken - 2011-09-24 11:08

    Hopefully this "up-yours" to the US/Israel apartheid state will start amajor movement to support occupied Palestine

      Met - 2011-09-24 11:46

      You mind is an apartheid state, but not the one which was freeer than the rest of Africa and the whole communist world

      vis vang - 2011-09-24 12:32

      Easy for you to say Met. Were you ever denied access to buses or beaches because of the colour of your skin. Was you house ever claimed by an evil Govt, and you relocated because of the colour of your skin. Most importantly, were you ever denied voting rights??

      Met - 2011-09-24 13:01

      I did not say that I supported apartheid. On the contrary, but we need to keep perspective. Most of those things, did not exist in more than half of the world then.

      Megan - 2011-09-24 19:00

      By supporting Isreal, MET, you are indeed supporting the idea of Apartheid.

      Met - 2011-09-24 19:29

      Megan- You very clearly have no idea of what apartheid was, other than what has been hammered into your head by propagandists of Islam and the racist ANS regime. And even less about Israel

  • Airwolf - 2011-09-24 11:12

    Netanyahu says he wants to "negotiate" without preconditions ..thats because its his way or no way.

      za101 - 2011-09-24 11:27

      Netanyahu gave 20 reasons why Palestine should not be granted independance and why Palestine should be kept weak

      Met - 2011-09-24 11:47

      And I agree with every one of those- in fact I can add several more

      OnlyaGinger - 2011-09-24 12:40

      @ met, ehy not just admit that you are anti-islam- which is no different from antisemetic etc. You are a pathetic little man- I hope you never procreate

      Met - 2011-09-24 13:06

      Only a ginger- You dont like facts, do you. You obviously like to use emotion rather- its more comforting. I could reciprocate with insults, but shall refrain. I dont have a problem with Muslims, but I do with Islam

      Jeffrey Jones - 2011-09-24 13:34

      Agree with you Met. I have many muslims friends, but they all know I hate Islam. Some muslims will not be bothered with me because of this. No loss to me. Islam is the most backward and the most agressive of the three Abrahamic faiths. "Palestinians" are kept in refugee camps in the rest of the Islam middle east, but they all bitch about Israel.

      Megan - 2011-09-24 19:02

      Met, how's about you do some reading http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

      Met - 2011-09-24 19:32

      Megan- I do not read what is very clearly propaganda.

  • Debra-Lee Boulter - 2011-09-24 11:25

    Do you all forget that the Jews were perrsecuted by the Nazis and put in concentration camps that they are people who have faced injustice there whole lives, Jesursalem belongs to the Jews not the Palestinians, the Jews are just protecting themselves from Terrorists....they are surrounded by Arabs States who want to destroy GODS people who openly say they should be wiped off the map, they have a right to defend themselves, the only ones clapping are the supporters of Terrorists, Well done USA once again for having the balls to stand up to the Muslim world, It is Biblical!!! Read your Bible!! LONG LIVE ISRAEL!!!!!!

      Euphoric Rage - 2011-09-24 11:33

      yes debra, the nazis persecuted them, not the palestinians. jerusalem is claimed by all three faiths of the book, and so it should be shared. under muslim rule all three faiths lived in harmony. saladin's personal physician ibm maymoun, known to the western world as maimonide's, was a jew, he wrote the book of origin which is second in jewish faith only to the torah. palestinians want a country, and want peace, they do not want to be treated like dogs, and put behind those prison walls, aftere all mandela once said, "south africa will never be free until palestine is free" freedom to all, justice for all.

      Swart_Baas - 2011-09-24 11:36

      who cares, its all a lie! apartheid regime.

      Debra-Lee Boulter - 2011-09-24 11:41

      They want Peace???? Is that why the strap bombs to thre women and children and send them into Israel !!!!! Do me a favor! They do not want to share anything they do not believe Israel should exist, they are a minority group who are the most persecuted people on the world!!! Or do you believe minority's like whites in SA do not have rights, or the right to defend themselves.......wake up! Unless you have lived in Israel and have faced the threat of terrorism everyday of your life please think before you speak!!

      Met - 2011-09-24 11:51

      The arabs could resolve the palestinian land question overnight if they wanted to- thats where they came from. But no, they want Israel to give up land- the smallest country of all

      Enlightened - 2011-09-24 12:12

      Yes, read your bible...God told the Hebrew people to kill those that lived in their 'Promised Land' and to take over that land. That aside, the Arabs have as much claim to the land as the Jews. It's not a matter of religion, but a matter of people.

      Enlightened - 2011-09-24 12:14

      Debra, have you lived in Gaza and faced the threat of terrorism? The Jews in Israel are not God's innocent sheep.

      Met - 2011-09-24 12:30

      Not Gods innocent sheep, but Gods chosen people

      Met - 2011-09-24 12:35

      Enlightened- Israel and that includes Gaza, was given to the Israeli people by the original owner, creator and title holder, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Not even the Israeli government has the right to give that land away. If the arabs are in Gaza, they are impositors

      Jeffrey Jones - 2011-09-24 13:38

      Quite right Debra-Lee. The Israel belongs to the Jews. Islam only came along centuries later. If the Arabs/Muslims want a holy site, they can have Mecca, where incidentally, if you aren't a muslim you will not be allowed into the city. Why should the Jews let them onto the Holy Mount. The Jews were there long before the Al Aqsa mosque.

      Jeffrey Jones - 2011-09-24 13:42

      @Euphoric Rage, "mandela once said, "south africa will never be free until palestine is free". Yeah, well Mandela had plenty of faults too, by his own admission. This must rank as one of the most stupid things he ever said. Most muslims here in the Western Cape treated the blacks as bad as the whites did. In fact I know muslims who still exploit their black staff and domestics like slaves.

      Roamer - 2011-09-24 16:28

      Debra, don't get confused. This issue has nothing to do with Nazi persecution, nor a knowledge of the Bible!

      Met - 2011-09-24 19:35

      Roamer- Its got everything to do whats written in the Bible- 100% You are the one who is misled and confused

      Askthequestionfirst - 2011-09-25 02:02

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haj_Amin_al-Husseini#The_Holocaust Check the link out. A very informative link in history. You can't ignore the trail of history by slicing it into selective pieces. This illustrates that there was already a mindset with the Palestinians of hating Jews as they sided with Hitler - even before 1948. Sobering stuff!

      Zee - 2011-09-26 15:53

      @Jeffrey Jones: Is that why mine and so many other Muslim parents sat in jail for siding with the plight of the blacks? Is that why my parents and thousands of other Muslim (and people of various other faiths) families were kicked out of their homes prior to those homes being destroyed in a little place called district 6 and forced to rebuild from scratch? Ahmed Kathrada, Dullah Omar - were they not Muslim? Argue with facts not propaganda chum.

  • Arno Young - 2011-09-24 11:52

    'Abbas has said negotiations remain his preference, but that he will not resume talks - frozen since 2008 - unless Israel agrees to the pre-1967 frontier as a baseline and freezes all settlement construction on occupied land. ' Perhaps the point of negotiations eludes Abbas. It is to reach common ground. You cannot demand the outcome of negotiations as a prerequisite to starting the negotiations. So no, Abbas does not want to negotiate. He demands concession without giving any.

  • ziyaadj1 - 2011-09-24 12:09

    Its easy for people who never in there lives had to suffer any oppression like some of us did during apartheid to make comments on Palestine and the Palestinian people.These Jews enjoyed Apartheid together with a Regime that is the same like the ones in Israel.I'm a muslim and i love Jews the ones that follow the ways of Abraham and not of Money Greed and Oppression.Look into history what happened to Jesus under the Jews still today they don't recognize they made i mistake accusing him of being born out of wedlock. Everybody deserve freedom or are you haters of Palestine free or are you dom

      Met - 2011-09-24 12:39

      Shame, you strike me as so persecuted under apartheid. If it was so bad, why were the millions from all over Africa trying so hard to get INTO SA? To be persecuted and to "suffer" like you did? Or were they actually trying to get away from circumstances now being created here by the ANC regime?

      Met - 2011-09-24 12:49

      And dont use the story of Jesus, Lord and Saviour, to further your argument. The Jews(Pharisees) and the Romans were only used to crucify Jesus. He did not hang on the cross helplessly. It was Gods plan to save mankind which began in Gen. 4. In Psalm 22, it says(700 yrs before the event) exactly what would take place on the cross. It did not just happen- it was prophesied 100s of years earlier. Jesus could have saved Himself from the cross- that I assure you, but if He did, we all would have been doomed because the penalty for sin is death. He died for everyone but sadly, everyone wont acknowledge it.

      Dmitri - 2011-09-24 13:05

      @met, I totally agree with what you are saying. People are blinded by many things. Jerusalem will fall (Predicted in Revelations), but the remnant will be saved and then Jersualem will be restored to her former glory (All in Revelations). Interesting article on CNN (of all networks), that the PA will not grant automatic citizenship to all Palestinians. I wonder why? Could it be that it is in name only and they (PA) want Jordan and Egypt to take care of the Palestinians? BTW, CNN is so pro Arab, it is called Cresent News Network!!!!!

      Met - 2011-09-24 13:38

      Dmitri- Absolutely. My defense of Israel and the Israeli people, does not mean that I agree or condone everything that is done by them.But that equally applies to other countries as well, particularly the ocean of dictatorships which surrounds Israel. All in Israel will not be saved, as you rightly say, but God commands me to bless Israel and to pray for the peace in Jerusalem

      Jeffrey Jones - 2011-09-24 13:49

      @ziyaadj1, There's plenty of oppression going on in Islam countries, why don't you campaign against that. Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew. As for him being born out of wedlock, you are insulting Christians there pal. They have very particular views on Jesus' birth. I'm an atheist and don't believe in any God, but Islam is still stuck in the early middle ages in many respects. Leave the Jews in Israel alone and they won't bother any of the Arabs.

  • letsee - 2011-09-24 12:23

    Well deserved.

  • vis vang - 2011-09-24 12:28

    Why is it that whenever Israel is mentioned, you find so many responses from apologists.It may have something to do with the fact that Israel is an apartheid state, and many are still clinging onto the memories of the "good old days"

      Met - 2011-09-24 13:13

      You have apartheid on your mind What about the Soviet Union- 60 million murdered by Stalin. Or China- even more. How many in the Islamic countries? And in Africa? More have died in 17 yrs under the ANC regime than in 50 yrs under the NP

  • Deset Rat - 2011-09-24 12:40

    Why is he talking to the UN? Why is he not talking to Saudi Arabia for a 100 billion dollar annual subsidy? Now that would make more sense!

  • Johann - 2011-09-24 13:29

    Give them their land and get it over with, then when they attack Israel again, invade them and annex the Arab state.

  • arielyshein - 2011-09-24 18:19

    Part 1 Ms Abbas fakes parade: Examples 1:Palestinians want peace: *PLO platform: "The struggle will not stop until the Zionist entity IS ELIMINATED"" *Palestine Ambassador Abdullah in Lebanon "The peace talks with Israel are part of ARAB STARTEGY TO ISOLATE ISRAEL and threaten its legitimacy." 2:Israel Arabs refugees responsibility. Reality *Arab League called: This will be a extermination massacre war which WILL BE SPOKEN LIKE THE MONGOL MASSACRESS. LEAVE AND STAY IN NEIGHBORING STATES. Later RETURN AND OBTAIN JWEISH PROPERTY 3: Oslo agreement; *Arafat speeches in Muslims worldwide: "The Oslo Agreement is a Trojan horse; Palestinians will come out of the horse. We plan to eliminate Israe, establish a pure Palestinian state" 4:The wall: Reality: The wall is build to protect Israeli civilians from Arabs terrorism. Build only following endless terror against civilians in busses- malls-religious events- school children 5:No Israel partners for negotiation: Reality: *Camp David Summit failure: Clinton blamed Arafat: "I regret that Arafat missed the opportunity to bring that nation into being *2000- Taba negotiations Israel made unprecedented offers. Palestinian response was to open the deadly terror war against Israel civilians *2009 Israel PM Olmert proposed Abas a detailed peace plan. Abas promised a reply! He never returned to peace negotiations

  • arielyshein - 2011-09-24 18:19

    Part 1 Ms Abbas fakes parade: Examples 1:Palestinians want peace: *PLO platform: "The struggle will not stop until the Zionist entity IS ELIMINATED"" *Palestine Ambassador Abdullah in Lebanon "The peace talks with Israel are part of ARAB STARTEGY TO ISOLATE ISRAEL and threaten its legitimacy." 2:Israel Arabs refugees responsibility. Reality *Arab League called: This will be a extermination massacre war which WILL BE SPOKEN LIKE THE MONGOL MASSACRESS. LEAVE AND STAY IN NEIGHBORING STATES. Later RETURN AND OBTAIN JWEISH PROPERTY 3: Oslo agreement; *Arafat speeches in Muslims worldwide: "The Oslo Agreement is a Trojan horse; Palestinians will come out of the horse. We plan to eliminate Israe, establish a pure Palestinian state" 4:The wall: Reality: The wall is build to protect Israeli civilians from Arabs terrorism. Build only following endless terror against civilians in busses- malls-religious events- school children 5:No Israel partners for negotiation: Reality: *Camp David Summit failure: Clinton blamed Arafat: "I regret that Arafat missed the opportunity to bring that nation into being *2000- Taba negotiations Israel made unprecedented offers. Palestinian response was to open the deadly terror war against Israel civilians *2009 Israel PM Olmert proposed Abas a detailed peace plan. Abas promised a reply! He never returned to peace negotiations

  • arielyshein - 2011-09-24 18:19

    Part 2: Ms Abbas fakes parade: Examples: 6: Gaza is unjustified attacked by Israelis: Reality: Hamas steps when Israel withdraws from Gaza: *Smuggling arms,suicide bombers funded by Arabs&Iran *More than 8000 rockets fired against Israel civilians in 6 years *Hamas charter The Day of Judgment will not come until Muslims kill the Jews 7: Unjust treatment of refugees Reality: ----------- A:Arabs refugees: *Maintained by Arab countries as incitement hubs to divert attention for Arab huge issues and Israel destruction tool * Most of them leave by obeying their leaders call to leave *UN$ help Arabs refugees is 4 times higher that Marshal aid to Europe No other refugees worldwide (approximately 100 million since WW2) received a fragment of similar help. Almost all refugees are solved except Palestinians -- B:Jews refuges expelled by Arabs are part of Israel building society without UN $help. 1.000.000 Jews-650.000 Arab refugees Jewish land stolen by Arabs=57000sqkm Summary: Abbas habit is to distort the reality in line with Arabs lying to infidels doctrine called : Takyyia His doctoral thesis : * Nazi Holocaust a fantastic lie. * The Jews killed by the Nazis were victims of a Zionist-Nazi plot. The same has been said in UN by Iranian president Ahmedinjad. Many countries walked out UN assembly

  • stefaans - 2011-09-24 21:15

    Thanks Megan for this: If Americans Only Knew. org website. Very interesting reading! The Israelis have a powerful lobby group in USA - Barack 'Uncle Tom" Obama has his hands tied by them and fights their proxy wars in the Middle east. Met - Show me the deed where The Big Estate Agent In The Sky signed over that piece of land to that group of people and that group alone. Now America and Israel stand exposed in the spotlight on the world stage - anti-democratic party-poopers who do not want to allow the Palestinian people the basic human right of a place to call home. At present Gaza is a gulag - a bantustan - complete with checkpoints. Jewish people suffered so much under Hitler, I suppose one hopes the Jewish people would show more commitment to human rights, international law and common sense. Allow the Palestinians the dignity of UN membership.

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