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Blood flows in Syria despite UN presence

2012-04-22 18:19

Damascus - Troops shot dead six civilians on Sunday in Homs despite the presence of UN observers in the rebel province to pave the way for a 300-strong mission approved by the Security Council, monitors said.

The deaths raised to 17 the number of people killed on Sunday across Syria, including two civilians and four soldiers who died during an assault on a rebel bastion near Damascus by regime forces, they said.

The violence came even as UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan singled out the government of President Bashar al-Assad in an appeal for an end to hostilities by both loyalist forces and rebels seeking to oust him.

"I urge all forces whether governmental, opposition or others to put down their weapons and work with the United Nations monitors to consolidate the fragile cessation of violence," Annan said in a statement.

"The government in particular must desist from the use of heavy weapons and, as it has committed, withdraw such weapons and armed units from population centres and implement fully its commitments under the six-point plan."

The latest bloodshed came only hours after the UN Security Council voted to send 300 unarmed observers to Syria for three months, although Washington warned it may veto a new mandate for the mission.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said regime forces shot dead three civilians in the city of Homs and three others in Talbisseh, another town visited by UN observers in restive Homs province.

"Three citizens were killed by security forces fire in the Khaldiyeh, Al-Guta and Al-Mukayam districts of Homs," the Britain-based monitoring group said.

Two advance team members set up base in Homs on Sunday, mission member Neeraj Singh said earlier, a day after they made their first visit to the central protest city since arriving in Syria a week ago.

On Saturday "the team drove or walked around the city of Homs and stopped at different locations to talk to the people. Two UN military observers have now been stationed at Homs since yesterday evening," Singh told AFP.

Troops fired in the air

UN observers on Sunday also toured  the city of Rastan in Homs province, according to Free Syrian Army spokesperson Colonel Saadeddine Kassem who escorted them through the rebel town.

Troops fired warning shots into the air to disperse a group of residents who surrounded the observers, he added.

Later the observers visited the city of Hama farther north, including a square which witnessed huge anti-regime protests last year, activist Abu Ghazi Hamwi reported from the scene.

The official Syrian news agency Sana said the observers met the governor of Hama during the visit.

On Saturday, the observers went to Baba Amr, a rebel hideout in Homs battered by a month-long army bombardment that monitors say killed hundreds before it was retaken on March 1.

A YouTube video showed the observers meeting activists who begged them to stay. Its authenticity could not be verified.

"Today is the first day since two months, exactly since 5 February... in Homs without shelling... without killing, without fire," one unidentified activist said in the footage.

"Because of that, we want you to stay. Please stay. This is what we want. When you come, shelling stops. When you come, killing stops," he told the observers, who wore blue helmets and bullet-proof vests marked "UN".

In other violence on Sunday, tank shelling and heavy gunfire were reported in Douma, an outlying rebel suburb of the Syrian capital, activists reported.

Douma stormed

"Regime forces backed by tanks stormed Douma under heavy gunfire," said the revolutionary council of Damascus province.

Videos posted online showed towering columns of smoke over Douma, as gunfire crackled and calls of "Allahu Akbar" (God is greatest) were heard.

Council member Mohammed Saeed told AFP the assault was "in retaliation for huge anti-regime protests there and because it's a centre of dissent".

The Observatory said four soldiers were killed when a bomb targeted an armoured personnel carrier in Douma, where two civilians were also shot dead.

A third civilian was shot dead at a checkpoint elsewhere in Damascus province.

In northwest Syria, the group said, soldiers shot dead three civilians at a village in Jabal al-Zawiya district of Idlib province while an overnight ambush on a patrol in Banias killed one security officer and wounded three.

Under UN Resolution 2043, 300 military observers will be sent for an initial 90 days if UN chief Ban Ki-moon determines it is safe to go.

Saturday's vote was hailed by Syria's political and military opposition but Washington warned it may prevent the mission's renewal after three months, while urging greater international pressure on Assad.

"Our patience is exhausted. No one should assume that the United States will agree to renew this mission after 90 days," US ambassador Susan Rice told the Council.

The UN says well over 9 000 Syrians have been killed since democracy protests erupted in March 2011, while monitors put the figure at more than 11 000.

Comments
  • Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-22 20:15

    How long are people going to continue to believe this? Do we really think that unarmed Syrians would continue to protest for a whole year while there govt just randomly fires live rounds on them. If so these are the bravest or the stupidest people the world has ever known. Or could the Syrian troops be fighting insurgents?

      Fred - 2012-04-22 20:24

      At least you're showing your ignorance and disbelief for all to see

      Fred - 2012-04-22 20:24

      At least you're showing your ignorance and disbelief for all to see

      michael.a.devilliers - 2012-04-22 21:31

      Also proving you're a spineless coward.

      michael.a.devilliers - 2012-04-22 21:31

      Also proving you're a spineless coward.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 07:52

      No, it is not a good point, It is dumb, simple and stupid!! The ones who live in dictatorships, are getting sick and tired of their corrupt and violent tyrants. They want the same rights as you....THAT'S ALL!!!! What is so difficult to understand !!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 07:52

      No, it is not a good point, It is dumb, simple and stupid!! The ones who live in dictatorships, are getting sick and tired of their corrupt and violent tyrants. They want the same rights as you....THAT'S ALL!!!! What is so difficult to understand !!

      Fred - 2012-04-23 07:58

      Please point out the insults

      Fred - 2012-04-23 07:58

      Please point out the insults

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 08:05

      As Patrick, can at last see that this assad terrorist has no thoughts whatsoever, to step aside for a ligitimate government, the options for him to make any valuable comment on Syria, must now be exhausted !

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 08:05

      As Patrick, can at last see that this assad terrorist has no thoughts whatsoever, to step aside for a ligitimate government, the options for him to make any valuable comment on Syria, must now be exhausted !

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 13:32

      I must say Fred and Anthony are both pitiful and ignorant. All they do is try marginalize what I'm saying by ridiculing my point of view. They unfortunately show themselves up when I leave them links which prove a lot of what I have to say. Unfortunately they either don't read the links or they are just too stupid and closed minded to admit that there is a bit of truth to the madness.

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 13:32

      I must say Fred and Anthony are both pitiful and ignorant. All they do is try marginalize what I'm saying by ridiculing my point of view. They unfortunately show themselves up when I leave them links which prove a lot of what I have to say. Unfortunately they either don't read the links or they are just too stupid and closed minded to admit that there is a bit of truth to the madness.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 15:58

      Dylan, you believe the US attacked itself on 9/11. Enough said.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 15:58

      Dylan, you believe the US attacked itself on 9/11. Enough said.

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 17:24

      Fred u really are ignorant. like I have shown you previously with a link to an article of literally thousands of professionals in America from govt to military to engineers to witnesses who were there. There is too much evidence that indicates that criminal elements within the us govt had a hand in 9/11. Now here is the link AGAIN!!!!!! Please stop your ignorance and at least read it. http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html. Now if you are still not convinced if you read it then you know what fair enough. But you can not simply say I am talking nonsense because unfortunately there's too much evidence which points to a cover up!!!!!!!

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 17:24

      Fred u really are ignorant. like I have shown you previously with a link to an article of literally thousands of professionals in America from govt to military to engineers to witnesses who were there. There is too much evidence that indicates that criminal elements within the us govt had a hand in 9/11. Now here is the link AGAIN!!!!!! Please stop your ignorance and at least read it. http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html. Now if you are still not convinced if you read it then you know what fair enough. But you can not simply say I am talking nonsense because unfortunately there's too much evidence which points to a cover up!!!!!!!

      Fred - 2012-04-23 17:46

      It's looney-tunes Dylan. Utter nonsense. From this faulty perspective, it makes total sense that you would not see the obvious and well-founded opposition to 48 years of UNELECTED and OPPRESSIVE dictatorship in Syria. And you would overlook report after report through multiple channels in this Information Age that showed unarmed demonstration after unarmed demonstration for close on eleven months, responded to with sniper-fire, mortyr-fire, detentions, torture and rape by Assad. Your perspective is twisted, unreliable and delusional.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 17:46

      It's looney-tunes Dylan. Utter nonsense. From this faulty perspective, it makes total sense that you would not see the obvious and well-founded opposition to 48 years of UNELECTED and OPPRESSIVE dictatorship in Syria. And you would overlook report after report through multiple channels in this Information Age that showed unarmed demonstration after unarmed demonstration for close on eleven months, responded to with sniper-fire, mortyr-fire, detentions, torture and rape by Assad. Your perspective is twisted, unreliable and delusional.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 17:49

      Patrick, You just unashamedly, want to protect a dictator/tyrant/murderer, thats fine, that is your right, but than you don't have to make up your own stories . If there was such a strong influence, or even worse ,evidence of foreign troops in Syria, you don't think, Kofi Anna, would have mentioned this, SOMETIME, SOMEWHERE ????????????????

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 17:49

      Patrick, You just unashamedly, want to protect a dictator/tyrant/murderer, thats fine, that is your right, but than you don't have to make up your own stories . If there was such a strong influence, or even worse ,evidence of foreign troops in Syria, you don't think, Kofi Anna, would have mentioned this, SOMETIME, SOMEWHERE ????????????????

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 18:20

      Fred first of all you are the one who is not paying attention. Even the main crooked stream media say there reports on syria CAN NOT BE CONFIRMED!!!!!!! So catch a wake up. Secondly if you think the link which by the way can be checked and double checked which I have done by checking some of the names well then you are almighty and all powerful.because some of those people who you claim to be fairy tales, are actually US senators, US Colonels top engineers etc. but no you are truly mr know it all!!

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 18:20

      Fred first of all you are the one who is not paying attention. Even the main crooked stream media say there reports on syria CAN NOT BE CONFIRMED!!!!!!! So catch a wake up. Secondly if you think the link which by the way can be checked and double checked which I have done by checking some of the names well then you are almighty and all powerful.because some of those people who you claim to be fairy tales, are actually US senators, US Colonels top engineers etc. but no you are truly mr know it all!!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 18:22

      Dylan, Although we far dissagree with what's happening in N Africa and the ME, up to a point I was taking you serious. but if you believe this total crap about 9/11, you should rather concentrate on some silly conspiracy sites. I now realize that any ,normal, conversation with you is impossible, because if you fall for crazy stuff like this, you will believe ANYTHING!!! Have fun !!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 18:22

      Dylan, Although we far dissagree with what's happening in N Africa and the ME, up to a point I was taking you serious. but if you believe this total crap about 9/11, you should rather concentrate on some silly conspiracy sites. I now realize that any ,normal, conversation with you is impossible, because if you fall for crazy stuff like this, you will believe ANYTHING!!! Have fun !!

      Fred - 2012-04-23 18:37

      They're unconfirmed Dylan because the cold tyrant Bashar Assad doesn't allow foreign journalists into Syria. The news media make this statement so that viewers know the images have not been confirmed by them. This adds to the credibility of the news outlets. So when these same outlets say the twin towers were demolished by Al-Quaida-linked terrorists, they've verified this. But you want it both ways - the unarmed Syrian uprisings did not happen because the information was not erified, and 9/11 was an inside job even though it has been verified. This is contradictory and doesn't make sense. Plus the terrorists themselves have claimed responsibility publicly for the attacks again and again and again. Conspiracy theorists are by-and-large people who live on the wrong fringes of society, or who have taken fantasies that are meant to be fun discussion points, not belief-systems, and live by them. Both are deluding themselves.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 18:37

      They're unconfirmed Dylan because the cold tyrant Bashar Assad doesn't allow foreign journalists into Syria. The news media make this statement so that viewers know the images have not been confirmed by them. This adds to the credibility of the news outlets. So when these same outlets say the twin towers were demolished by Al-Quaida-linked terrorists, they've verified this. But you want it both ways - the unarmed Syrian uprisings did not happen because the information was not erified, and 9/11 was an inside job even though it has been verified. This is contradictory and doesn't make sense. Plus the terrorists themselves have claimed responsibility publicly for the attacks again and again and again. Conspiracy theorists are by-and-large people who live on the wrong fringes of society, or who have taken fantasies that are meant to be fun discussion points, not belief-systems, and live by them. Both are deluding themselves.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 18:50

      To be clear, there are aspects of the news media that are wrong, at times very wrong, such as their cynicism, their vitriolic panels that argue, not discuss, generating old-world issues such as race, but you're focusing on the things they've gotten right.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 18:50

      To be clear, there are aspects of the news media that are wrong, at times very wrong, such as their cynicism, their vitriolic panels that argue, not discuss, generating old-world issues such as race, but you're focusing on the things they've gotten right.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 19:14

      You're allowing the adolescent part of you, with its absolutes and black-and-white thinking, to determine your world perspective. "The main crooked-stream media". They're not all-wrong, but the adolescent in you, which we all have and which is an inherent part of our personalities, would see it in this either-or way. And in determining that they are in this absolute way, you land up believing absolute nonsense in the conspiracy theories. Matt, who is a teenager, does a similar thing, and lands up not only believing conspiracy theories, but also the Russian state media controlled by the neo-Soviet Vladimir Putin, and supporting real oppression and violence. Of course Putin is not all dark, but in my view more dark than light. Why else would he sell arms to Assad by the hundreds of millions, even billions, and support the slaughter of Syrians who have not had the right to vote in 48 years.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 19:14

      You're allowing the adolescent part of you, with its absolutes and black-and-white thinking, to determine your world perspective. "The main crooked-stream media". They're not all-wrong, but the adolescent in you, which we all have and which is an inherent part of our personalities, would see it in this either-or way. And in determining that they are in this absolute way, you land up believing absolute nonsense in the conspiracy theories. Matt, who is a teenager, does a similar thing, and lands up not only believing conspiracy theories, but also the Russian state media controlled by the neo-Soviet Vladimir Putin, and supporting real oppression and violence. Of course Putin is not all dark, but in my view more dark than light. Why else would he sell arms to Assad by the hundreds of millions, even billions, and support the slaughter of Syrians who have not had the right to vote in 48 years.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:02

      When adults let the child or adolescent parts of them determine their work view, they become children or adolescents. This is not bad, just that the child and adolescent parts of us have more limited and distorted perspectives.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:02

      When adults let the child or adolescent parts of them determine their work view, they become children or adolescents. This is not bad, just that the child and adolescent parts of us have more limited and distorted perspectives.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:03

      World view, not "work view

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:03

      World view, not "work view

  • Fidel - 2012-04-23 11:44

    Well spotted Dylan. One does not need to engage in conspiracies to question governments, all one needs is a skeptical and inquisitive mind (and the balls to back it up). However, to grant them a carte blanche time after time is just laughable.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 16:00

      Fidel, you're almost ALWAYS on the wrong side of right. It's plain for everyone to see. They just have to read your posts.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 16:00

      Fidel, you're almost ALWAYS on the wrong side of right. It's plain for everyone to see. They just have to read your posts.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 17:51

      Spotted What ????????????

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 17:51

      Spotted What ????????????

      Fred - 2012-04-23 19:55

      Patrick, you're copying my words again.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 19:55

      Patrick, you're copying my words again.

  • Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 19:40

    I give up arguing with you guys because like have said before people within the CIA, govt, MI5,6 Mossad, officials from all over the over the world have pointed to all of these conspiracies being based on some fact, but no you guys just pass it all of as utter nonsense. The evidence is glaring at you in the face. Sadly you believe everything western govts tell you And no doubt you will believe in the case of which the Us and Israel are currently putting forward which is a case for an unprovoked war with Iran who havnt invaded anyone for 300 years by the way!! which is part of what the whole Syrian agenda is as Syria is irans major ally in the region. You guys are fools in that you will fall for the same nonsense over and over. I mean look at the case they built against Iraq. All based on absolute lies, one after another lie after lie wmds links to alqueda which were all shown to be blatant lies And guess what they giving you exactly the same case against Iran which has been shown to be false too because even the CIA and Mossad have said Iran is not building nuclear weapons!!!!!! But you guys keep believing the US and the Uk etc. whatever boys. Fact is I and large sections of there own populations are beginning to see straight through the lies. So keep the blinkers on boys.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 19:53

      Iraq was a clear mistake, on the back of the trauma of 9/11. Some however, mainly and tragically Muslims, blame the US for the hundreds of thousands of Muslim civilians killed or maimed by Islamic Jihadists with their car bombs and suicide attacks in Iraq. Your view of Iran is distorted too, unfortunately. The Iranian regime has stolen the government from the Iranian people. It adjusted the last elections. It also is the biggest finder of terrorism in the world today. It is supporting Bashar Assad with direct military assistance. It provokes the Palestinians to attack Israel almost daily, and funds their arms. It does this not because it truly cares about the Palestinians, but because it needs to present Israel as an external enemy to its population, to justify its existence. It supports the stoning to death of women. It openly denies the occurrence of the Holocaust, that exterminated more than six million Jewish people. And it is hiding two nuclear facilities from the UN. This is who you are supporting, and what you are blinding yourself to.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 19:53

      Iraq was a clear mistake, on the back of the trauma of 9/11. Some however, mainly and tragically Muslims, blame the US for the hundreds of thousands of Muslim civilians killed or maimed by Islamic Jihadists with their car bombs and suicide attacks in Iraq. Your view of Iran is distorted too, unfortunately. The Iranian regime has stolen the government from the Iranian people. It adjusted the last elections. It also is the biggest finder of terrorism in the world today. It is supporting Bashar Assad with direct military assistance. It provokes the Palestinians to attack Israel almost daily, and funds their arms. It does this not because it truly cares about the Palestinians, but because it needs to present Israel as an external enemy to its population, to justify its existence. It supports the stoning to death of women. It openly denies the occurrence of the Holocaust, that exterminated more than six million Jewish people. And it is hiding two nuclear facilities from the UN. This is who you are supporting, and what you are blinding yourself to.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:10

      Syria and Iran are two of the darkest regimes left in the world, darker even than the Apartheid regime. You are enabling, even supporting them.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:10

      Syria and Iran are two of the darkest regimes left in the world, darker even than the Apartheid regime. You are enabling, even supporting them.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 20:57

      Dylan and patrick, Reminds me of a conversation in an old age home, the one is deaf and the other is loosing his mind !!!!! it is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo booooooooooooooring !!!

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 21:04

      Hahahahaha. Fred you are seriously brainwashed. Admitting that Iraq was a mistake. But when then confronted with the EXACT SAME RHETORIC from the west you fall for it again. But when the MOSSAD AND CIA admit that IRAN IS NOT PRODUCING NUCLEAR WEAPONS you still believe the lies. What is wrong with you. Do you mean to tell me that Iran( whom by the way I don't support)is more oppressive than the Saudi regime? Get a grip mate. See past the rhetoric. Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Yemen Egypt equal American allies so dictatorship ok. Syria Iran Libya Iraq etc say no to USA influence. dictatorship not ok. If you can't see double standards then what can I say.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 21:33

      In an adolescent's world, I agree with you Dylan. However, there is a more adult view of things, where there are shades of grey.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 21:37

      Patrick, you still have your anti-West OCD lenses on, and would have the madman Gaddafi slaughter tens of thousands of Muslims who want nothing more than the right to vote, just like Bashar Assad is doing, and would have the oppressive, chauvinists and gangsters the Taliban and Al-Quaida respectively rule the Middle East and attack the freer world. As long as the West is involved, according to you it's taboo.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 21:44

      Dylan, the UN has said Iran is concealing two nuclear facilities from its inspectors. This is not to say it already has nuclear weapons. But you would believe an oppressive regime that adjusts elections to hold into power before the freer world or more independent association of nations.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 21:48

      The world is a better place without Saddam Hussein and his cruel sons

      Fred - 2012-04-23 22:08

      Patrick, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis HAVE been killed or maimed by the car bombs and suicide attacks of the mad Jihadists.

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 22:33

      Fred you keep on saying that Iran adjusted there elections there is absolutely no proof of such a claim. Next you have continuos claims of the oppressive regime of Iran. Well one thing a regime wants more than anything else is to hold onto power well to nuke Israel would be plain suicidal as that would more than likely be the end of Iran because the us would nuke them to hell. The Iranian govt is definitely not perfect but they definitely not stupid!!!! Lastly what gives Israel and the us for that matter to have nuclear weapons

      Fred - 2012-04-23 23:47

      There's plenty of proof. You just have to be willing to look, and not on those looney fringe sites or on sites controlled by other oppressive regimes. Presenting the false threat of an Israeli attack or Israeli oppression of Palestinians is all they need. The attack and oppression does become a self-fulfilling prophesy, however. In this case the oppression is mainly at the hands of the Syrian and Iranian regimes who continually invite the Palestinians to attack Israel, and have done do for decades. Israel has to respond to protect itself. The Palestinians get caught in the middle. If the Syrian and Iranian regimes cared so much for the Palestinians they would have given them the slither of land the Palestinians need to call home. They haven't, but chosen instead to send them arms by the billions over the decades, and invite them. All to present an enemy to their populations. Like the Apartgrid regime did with the Soviet Union, although that was a more real threat. Nuclear weapons are Israel's lifeline. Had it not had these, the terrorist regimes and dictatorships of the regime would have tried again and again to invade her, as they did twice in the 1960's. Dylan, you have to get out of that adolescent paradigm to understand that the US and freer world are more free and have greater human rights than the oppressive regimes you're enabling. Once you understand this, you'll be greatful they have nuclear weapons, or you'd be under Nazi or Soviet occupation right now.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 23:51

      "invite" should be "incite"

      Fred - 2012-04-24 00:02

      Patrick, Libya was NOT a mistake. Gaddafi had gone mad and would have slaughtered thousands upon thousands more Libyans in his wild crusade to hold on to the riches he had stolen from the Libyan people, and the power he usurped for decades of unelected and narcissistic rule. In any event, the US hardly had anything to do with it.

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