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Breivik: I would have done it again

2012-04-17 11:37

Oslo - Anders Behring Breivik on Tuesday defended his massacre of 77 people, insisting he would do it again and calling the bomb-and-shooting rampage the most "spectacular" attack by a nationalist militant since World War II.

Reading a prepared statement in court, the anti-Muslim extremist lashed out at Norwegian and European governments for embracing immigration and multiculturalism.

He claimed to be speaking as a commander of an "anti-communist" resistance movement and an anti-Islam militant group he called the Knights Templar. Prosecutors have said the group does not exist.

Maintaining he acted out of "goodness, not evil" to prevent a wider civil war, Breivik vowed, "I would have done it again."

Judge replaced

Breivik's testimony on Tuesday was delayed after a citizen judge was dismissed for his comments online the day following the July 22 attack that Breivik deserves the death penalty. Lawyers on all sides had requested that lay judge Thomas Indreboe be taken off the trial.

He was replaced by backup lay judge Elisabeth Wisloeff.

Breivik is being tried by a panel of two professional judges and three lay judges, local politicians who are appointed for four-year terms and participate on an equal basis as the judges in deciding guilt and sentencing.

The system is designed to let ordinary people have a role in the Norwegian justice system, though the lead judge still runs the trial.

As at the start of the trial on Monday, Breivik entered the court smirking before flashing a clenched-fist salute.

Claims of self-defence

Breivik has five days to explain why he set off a bomb in Oslo's government district, killing eight, and then gunned down 69 at a Labour Party youth camp outside the Norwegian capital. He denies criminal guilt saying he was acting in self-defence.

Survivors of the massacre have worried he will use his testimony as a platform to promote his extremist views. The key issue for the court to decide is whether Breivik is psychotic.

Judge Wenche Elisabeth Arntzen repeatedly interrupted Breivik asking him to keep his statement short.

"It is critically important that I can explain the reason and the motive" for the massacre, Breivik said.

He said he acted in self-defence to protect Norway from Muslims by attacking the left-leaning political party he blamed for the country's liberal immigration policies.

Joseph McCarthy ‘too moderate’

According to Breivik, Western Europe was gradually taken over by "Marxists and multiculturalists" after World War II, because it didn't have "anti-communist" leaders like US Senator Joseph McCarthy.

The senator dominated the early 1950s by his sensational but unproved charges of Communist subversion in high government circles in the US.

His probes gave rise to the term McCarthyism, which describes the persecution of innocent persons on the charge of being Communists.

"But even McCarthy was too moderate," Breivik said.

On Monday, Breivik rejected the authority of the court, calling it a vehicle of the "multiculturalist" political parties in power in Norway. He confessed to the "acts" but pleaded not guilty.

Even his lawyers concede his defence is unlikely to succeed, and said the main thing for them was to convince the court that Breivik is not insane.

One psychiatric examination found him legally insane while another reached the opposite conclusion. It is up to the panel to decide whether to send him to prison or compulsory psychiatric care.

Breivik could face a maximum 21-year prison sentence or an alternate custody arrangement that would keep him locked up as long as he is considered a menace to society.

Comments
  • CharlesDumbwin - 2012-04-17 11:41

    This guy's a madman. That's what happens when radicle extremist 'revolutionaries' get stupid ideas in their heads !!! When they start wearing berets, then you know they've lost all sanity.

      Retha - 2012-04-17 12:30

      Malema wears a beret....

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-04-17 12:48

      Fidel, nobody condones violence. But your reasoning is flawed - if you go back in history, Palestine was the home of the Jewish people before the Romans conquered it, and the Jewish people fled the Palestine during the Diaspora during and after the crusades. So if you want to use your reasoning, if a guy lives in a house, gets kicked out by an armed thug, and then returns with a bigger gun to take his house back, who is the thug?

      Tuco - 2012-04-17 12:59

      People will come up with all sorts of excuses to defend sick and violent behaviour. religion, race, idiology are just a few of the many excuses put on the table. at the ned of the day it boils down to one thing. the suffering and death of innocent lives.

      Morama - 2012-04-17 13:34

      @Charles,If you are implying to Malema you must also remember that most of his utterances has been derived from ANC freedom charter!!! I dont't support ANC neither Malema but don't compare him with this guy because there's no similarity here?

      Mattewis - 2012-04-17 13:55

      @Morama I agree that you cannot compare Malema to this guy. This guy does his own dirty work, whereas Malema incites others to do his while he lives the life of indulgent opulence!

      Jaba - 2012-04-17 14:56

      I hate Breivik as much as I hate the Norwegian foreign policy.

  • marnusmnorval - 2012-04-17 11:43

    Most of them show no remorse the only way to deal with them are to remove them from society

  • Kobus - 2012-04-17 11:48

    SICK SICK SICK!!!

  • Mark - 2012-04-17 11:50

    What is this world coming to? You massacre 77 people and all you get is 21 years or a custody arrangement?

      Den - 2012-04-17 13:14

      thats because of human rights....sick

      Warmonger - 2012-04-17 13:38

      Kill 1 man and you are a Murderer. Kill a 100 000 men and you are a Conqueror. Kill them ALL and you are a "god"...

      Sigil - 2012-04-17 17:00

      You see Chuck, in Norway which has the highest standard of living in the world, crimes like mass murder are very rare. Forbes calls it a Low Crime nation. Therefore their maximum sentence is 21 years. Its a very civilised place.

      trix.duvenage - 2012-04-19 18:40

      @ Chuck: What do you mean what is this world coming to? Here in SA thousands get killed, raped, tortured etc and basically NOTHING comes of it, let alone 21 years.... That guy is a mad jerk but what the hell, he is no worse than the DAILY crimes here in this hell-hole

  • johncarlos.biza - 2012-04-17 11:56

    Just another conservative nutjob

  • winston.mullany - 2012-04-17 12:00

    Against Muslims by killing non-Muslims....eh, you sir are not the brightest light bulb!

      Tuco - 2012-04-17 13:01

      clearly, he makes a point by killing the very people he is "defending" from threat'

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-04-17 14:04

      which makes him nothing but a garden variety terrorist despite all his balled fist(?) salutes and nationalist rhetoric throw him to the dogs

  • Den - 2012-04-17 12:12

    they should have shot this bastard there and then, now he has a platform to sprout more sh%t

  • Muhammed - 2012-04-17 12:17

    This cold-blooded murderer should be given the death penalty!!!

      Erich - 2012-04-17 12:46

      Muhammed, cool down. In that country they don't flock women or chop off the hands of thieves. Did you react the same way after 9/11?

      Den - 2012-04-17 13:15

      should not have left the sceen alive

      Dawood - 2012-04-17 13:38

      @ Erich you suffer frm religious illiteracy(flock women)...pls do take some time in researching the religion you condemn..i assume you to be a racist,hating citizen of a new democracy..unlike Europe, Africa embraced ppl of different ethnicities,religions,backgrounds etc for centuries..and the part about chopping off hands,hence the said countries have the lowest Crime(theft,murder,rape) rates of any country in the world. I'd assume you are pro crime in SA..or are u one of the whiners who condemn everything non white..

      Chris - 2012-04-17 14:45

      Hi Aneeqah, hope you're having a good day too. Erich has a valid point. Would you have replied to Erich had your name not been Aneeqah? Let's be honest with each other - Islam is the cause of widespread suffering and devastation worldwide. Fact. I do not see any "moderate" muslims taking on the "fundamentalists" of that religion. Does that mean the moderates condone the actions of the fundamentalists? Would be interesting to hear your response...

      Irene - 2012-04-17 14:56

      Chris ~ Spot on!

      isaa.ebrahim - 2012-04-17 14:58

      @Chris, I think that your viewpoint on the world is skewed by the Christian/Jewish/Capitalist controlled media. Perhaps you should do some research on the current world conflicts, famine and poverty to get a better understanding on whats really happening in the world.

      Muhammed - 2012-04-17 15:17

      Oh boy...what did I cause here...I guess that for as long as we are not on the same ideological platform, we may never agree on gut issues like this.

      Chris - 2012-04-17 15:36

      @isaa, I am not susceptible to adhominem attacks. My skin grows 2 inches thick debating the likes of you. I know enough about your so called "religion" to know that you all despise Christians. There is nothing wrong with capitalism - the best system available allround. In regards to the main stream media - I don't trust them at all. Generally, I think ordinary people should learn more about the real Islam. I pray your false dogma gets buried once and for all.

      Dawood - 2012-04-17 15:56

      @ Chris it grows even thicker in your brain..you just yap all the falsehood and lies you've been spoonfed...GULLIBLE is the name we attach to the likes of you and Irene..but good luck to you in your religious endeavours...GOD will surely have a bone to pick with you.

      Chris - 2012-04-17 16:12

      @Dawood, o.k. I will not lie to you - I don't like muslims - I tolerate them. For the record, your god is not my God. I have a very good and close relationship with my God. So I guess I'll have take my chances...

      nowicki1 - 2012-04-17 16:17

      Anyone can be brainwashed, any ideology can be manipulated and abused. Chris it is clear you are ignorant on the subject. While some Muslim fundamentalists are very misguided and evil. Most Muslims are people just like me and you, peaceful and loving. Can we agree that humans can be programmed to think in a certain way? That much of a persons beliefs are not his own but have been passed on to him by others? Why blame a whole culture for the wrongs of a few? While the US has bombed many countries and killed millions of civilians in its "wars for peace". "Islam is the cause of widespread suffering and devastation worldwide. Fact"? No, you are very mistaken. The bankers, corporations, IMF and other highly corrupt governmental and monetary organisations who own and control most of what you hear on the news and media. They are the real cause of suffering. It saddens me to see people arguing over and blaming petty issues for problems instead of waking up to the fact that we are fighting for scraps while the elite continue their quest for more power. Sending us to fight and die in wars that only benefit them. I understand you will probably pass this jumbled comment off as a nut jobs rant as the mainstream media has taught you to do. I really don't care but please investigate these issues yourselves. "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild.

      Chris - 2012-04-17 18:36

      Matt, the Islamic nations rank as the least free, least prosperous and least enlightened places on earth. Yet you claim “most Muslims are people just like me and you, peaceful and loving”. Really? One fifth of the world's population (the Islamic nations) is responsible for over four fifths of the world's armed conflicts my friend. You believe your tolerant, pacifist beliefs are more civil and enlightened? You have been brainwashed Matt. You liberals seem to believe that people can be conditioned to behave more angelically through Political Correctness. The opposite is true. Empirical evidence suggests man indoctrinated and separated from God becomes a more demonic creature. The experiment has been run in Nazi, Communist, and Islamic nations - always with the same result. All things we hold dear are eliminated: prosperity, liberty, justice, opportunity, and peace.

      Muhammed - 2012-04-17 19:24

      @ Chris and Irene: Reading what you have shared here it is obvious that you do not have many (if any) muslims friends. Your opinions about Islam and Muslims are based on media propaganda and hence you think about us what you do. I do not blame your for this but rather see it as an opportunity for us to correspond and get to know each other. Please do meet me on Facebook. I would be privileged to share with you what true Islam is all about and how true Muslim conduct themselves.\r\n@ Matt: Thank you for your balanced, just and honest comments. I respect you for your courage in mentioning what you did.

      Chris - 2012-04-17 19:52

      Muhammed - thank you for the invitation to befriend you on fb but I politely decline (but not because you are a Muslim). I would have loved to further our debate on the subject but, who knows, we may "encounter" each other again down the track - here on News24. I wish you well. Kind regards

      Muhammed - 2012-04-17 22:54

      Sure thing and take care, Chris.

      nowicki1 - 2012-04-18 16:02

      I understand you are afraid of change while I welcome it. I am not afraid of being wrong and would love to debate these issues but quite frankly, with your type, its pointless, your arrogance shines through in your comments, your ego will never accept defeat. "A mind only works when its open" - Albert Einstein. Even Jesus expelled the money changers (bankers) from the Temple. While you go around hating on other cultures remember the elite thrive off hate and divisions among us. Cheers

  • H9005 - 2012-04-17 12:20

    21 years a maximum sentence for killing 77 people? And I thought sentences were light in SA.

  • Samantha - 2012-04-17 12:22

    he should be sentenced to the 21 years in an saudi jail- why do people take the lives of others just because they are unhappy with the way the world is going- take yourself out of the world then and leave the rest in peace-

  • Eva - 2012-04-17 12:24

    What astounds me is the nr of thumbs down people get for saying this guy is sick. Who are you???

      lytteot7 - 2012-04-17 12:35

      Naturally programmed to oppose anything.

      Den - 2012-04-17 13:17

      theres always sum crack pots on news 24..

      watsongeorgejan - 2012-04-17 13:50

      Scum that has the same supremacist ideas as this sicko but no balls to carry out their sick fantasies...

  • stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-04-17 12:25

    Total nutcase who should be locked away and never be set free again.

  • Solly Rand - 2012-04-17 12:26

    bloody terrorist!!!

  • Pramesh - 2012-04-17 12:31

    What an evil, evil man.

      Warmonger - 2012-04-18 06:24

      One mans terrorist/sick man/evil man is another mans 'freedom fighter'... It worked for N~M...

  • lytteot7 - 2012-04-17 12:31

    Anything that threatens the existence of human race should be permanently removed. If we keep these people in jail and release them later what are we trying to achieve? This is just delaying the inevitable, this guy believes in his beliefs and theories and chances are he will get out of jail and do the same thing because to him is the right thing to do. Eliminate this guy and the likes, he is a cancer and sub human. You can't kill 77 people and show no remorse.

  • Nawaal Cassiem - 2012-04-17 12:46

    @Frank you give me hope that someday there will be peace...for as long as there is such ignorance as yours, you provide enough data on how to move forward positively and to leave people like you behind so youre not COMPLETELY useless YET, You need a history lesson by the way. also not such a biased view of the world. maybe, someday...

  • sharyn.dabbs - 2012-04-17 12:51

    21 years? For everybody's sake, this man needs to be executed. In 21 years, he will just go out and do it again. Clearly he is legally sane, but lets face it, do we want or need this kind of person on the planet?

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-04-17 14:11

      I believe you raise a very real and very possible look on the future. The guy says that this was the most spectacular attack on multinationalism since WW11 and he is most probably correct- so what better than to come out after 21 years and improve on his "score".

  • Gieljam - 2012-04-17 12:57

    How can this person ever be declared normal ? He's as unstable as nitro glycerine or what ever he was taking in at any given time ( that is before he got caught) of which the after effects are still very much evident in his denials .What is scary though is we've have (had?) a person here inciting others to brutality making no secret of their intentions and then the state provides/d him with highly armed and paid body guards at the cost of the very persons he is/was targeting.

  • Mike - 2012-04-17 12:58

    can somebody clear this up for me, 'right wing' & 'left wing', where did the terms come from? and does one get classified into the different 'wing'

      Sag871218 - 2012-04-17 19:55

      Hey Mike. I asked n aparently its \left wing\ is the ruling party etc. \right-wing\ is the oppsition? I asked for simplest explanation though.

  • 2zbunu - 2012-04-17 13:03

    This is a sad thing to happen just for sum1 who is claiming to defend the nationality of Norway. Who does this Norway belong to? Who does'nt have a right to be in Norway? Muslims Africans Americans or any other person who is not a Nowergian? This guy does'nt understand that the extremist can also come from the pure Norwergians.

  • Elize - 2012-04-17 13:04

    The is no word for this man he is the devil himself, and he is going to get 21 years, sick very very sick!!!!

  • Albert - 2012-04-17 13:18

    The disgusting thing is he has been given a chance to defend his case. What case? He is a calculating mass murderer. This thing even admits that it would do it again given anther chance. Then you think he might be insane. 21 years in jail. Is that what 77 people's lives are worth. Thats like a smack on the wrist. I agree with the previous judge. This it does deserve the death penalty, but a slow painful one. Norways Law's are also to blame because this has been dragging on for way toooooo long.

  • Maximus - 2012-04-17 13:19

    ..

  • Aaron - 2012-04-17 13:31

    ya Breviek is a christian fundamentslist

  • tshepo.ally - 2012-04-17 13:32

    Just hang the guy and get it over and done with.

  • AdeleFHM - 2012-04-17 13:41

    Unbelievable that one person can have so much hate in it's eyes, so shocking!

  • Phumi - 2012-04-17 14:14

    Unfortunately Breivick views are no different from many of those who still think apartheid was better. In fact many of those closet apartheid supporters are longing for the hey days of Verwoed to come back. That will never happen in our lifetime or even if the second coming happens!

      Maximus - 2012-04-17 14:20

      Lets see. Strong currency, safe country, a country that provoked Europeans to live on it. But you right ! A country with a weak currency, disgusting crime rate , corruption rampant at every level and struggling to keep it's own citizens within it's borders sounds do much better!! Great logic Phumi, but then again, with the name Phumi, was logic ever expected?

      Rob - 2012-04-17 14:26

      Phumi...Apartheid NO ! But is it wrong to wish for a country, whereby murder, rape & general crime are not considered as normal & a part of everyday life. To wish for a government that actually knows how to govern & serve its people instead of itself. The list is of course endless. I dont expect you to understand, because like so many others you probably vote on race & sentiment.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-04-17 14:44

      phumi we as south africans need to be very careful on the subject you are raising, it wont be long till a nut job here in SA do the same, we have been warned and we can learn a lot from what happened in norway. forget about apartheid lets move on so we can avoid this tragedy happening here in our beloved country.

  • CydonianKnight - 2012-04-17 14:52

    @Maximus It was Europe that has raped Africa of its wealth and dignity. How dare you blame the Third world for Europe’s problems! This man is an extremist who wants to play GOD. Murdering of the innocent cannot be condoned nor justified!

      Sigil - 2012-04-17 16:10

      High five! You are sooo right.

      Maximus - 2012-04-17 17:47

      Ha ha ha ha. Is this a soap opera of the most ignorant beings to ever put their thoughts to text? Let me put you out of your bliss. If it was not for Europeans, you and your useless brethren of Africans wouldn't know what the wheel is! Wake up you fool. It is Africans raping their fellow African. Every product, every piece of God damn technology, you use and have EVER used! You owe to these so called European rapists.

      Dawood - 2012-04-17 23:18

      A Maximus as usual ,a european claiming an Indian invention as his and fooling the rest of the world about that..LOL

      CydonianKnight - 2012-04-18 10:23

      @Maximus Intervention? More like an a invasion!The Europeans were supposed to strengthen Africa, but instead they were trapped in a spiral of greed. It is the bridge to many other problems brought into Africa by your brethren. The greed of the Europeans changed the structured attempt of colonialism into brutal acts of criminality. Judging by your recent postings I assume, therefore, that you are part of the problem. In sum: f**k you... and yours.

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