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British Muslims convicted of homophobia

2012-01-20 19:26

London - A court convicted three British Muslim men on  Friday for inciting hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation after distributing leaflets with an anti-homosexual theme.

The leaflets, distributed outside a mosque in Derby, central England, claimed Islam called for anyone caught committing homosexuality to be "executed".

Ihjaz Ali, 42, Kabir Ahmed, 28, and Razwan Javed, 27, are the first people to be prosecuted under new legislation which came into force in March 2010.

A pamphlet, called "The Death Penalty?", quoted Islamic texts that said capital punishment was the only way to rid society of homosexuality alongside an image of a mannequin hanging from a noose.

A jury at Derby Crown Court convicted the three men on the charge of distributing threatening written material intending to stir up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation.

During the trial the men admitted handing out the leaflets, but said they were simply following what their religion teaches them about homosexuality and did not intend to threaten anyone.

The jury also heard the leaflet outlined the history and legislation of the Buggery Act in England.

The men will be sentenced on February 10.

Two other men, Mehboob Hussain and Umar Javed, who were charged with the same offence, were found not guilty.

Comments
  • Greg - 2012-01-20 20:05

    The Buggery Act-bwaaahaaahaaa!

      Hilton - 2012-01-20 20:28

      Speak english yu "Fool"

      Alfred - 2012-01-21 07:25

      @Graig. All Delusion did was state a historical fact. Do you actually want to ban the truth? I see you don't bother trying to deny it, you just want to ban Delusion from stating it, and then you try and justify it by pointing out that some 'western iconic figures' have also had child brides. So its okay for Muhammad to have a child bride because others have had child brides? No its not okay, ever, under any circumstances. Censoring someone from stating historical facts is exactly the islamofascistic attitude that frightens us liberals. By the way feel free to name those 'Iconic western figures', no one will call for your post to be vilified and censored. You can vilify opinions, you cannot vilify facts. Let's see how long this post lasts before the fascists censor it.

      Alfred - 2012-01-21 09:32

      @Graig. So did muhammad have a nine year old childbride or did he not?

      Alfred - 2012-01-21 10:54

      I see the idiots at news24 have chosen to delete Graig's posts which results in my posts being totally meaningless. Censorship is tyranny and news24's censorship of posts makes posting here a complete waste of time.

      Burtfred - 2012-01-23 15:38

      Where are all the gay Muslims? Are they hiding in Burkas?

  • gordon.p.jacobs - 2012-01-20 20:31

    Funny,they get to stay in Britain because of tolerance. Yet they have the audacity to preach intolerance. Amazing.

      arlene.hanns - 2012-01-21 09:25

      Exactly!

      Jaba - 2012-01-23 15:59

      Muslims don’t like to compromise, refuse to assimilate yet alone recognize anyone who is different to them. The list of conflicts below have One thing in common, I will let you guess what that One thing is. Afghanistan, Bosnia, Cote d’Ivoire, Cyprus, East Timor, Indonesia, Gaza, Kashmir, Kosovo, Kurdistan, Macedonia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Chechnya, Serbia, Thailand, Bangladesh, Tajikistan, Egypt, Syria, Sudan, Ethiopia, Tunisia, Algeria, Yemen, etc. The day they learn to respect, understand and accept others is the day there will be peace for us all. Religion of peace… what you think?

  • Nicholas - 2012-01-20 20:34

    ...you guys definitely chose the wrong country to live in!

  • Barry - 2012-01-20 20:39

    Its a free country. Why can't they express their views.

      Sean - 2012-01-20 20:59

      @ Barry, if christians were tolerated in these so called tolerant people's own countries, you would have a valid argument !!! It's all about Islam & nothing else !!!

      donald.perumal - 2012-01-20 21:20

      I suppose they can air their views WITHOUT threatening violence.

      Barry - 2012-01-20 21:51

      @sean Christian, Muslim ...who gives a hoot. All religions have radicals not only the Muslin religion you hate. So then why should only the Muslim religion be targeted ? Any religion is a joke. They are the root of all evil

      Iceberg - 2012-01-20 21:59

      The tolerance of the peaceful religion. Its a cancer!

      Adam - 2012-01-20 23:56

      becos they lead to the deaths of innocent people barry.... try to keep up

      brandon.golding - 2012-01-21 00:13

      So Barry, Shoot the Boer is ok because its just someone expressing their views???

      Craig - 2012-01-21 06:41

      @Sean - please do at least some research. Here in Oman there are churches, Hindu temples and synagogues. Or are you lumping all Muslims into one homogenous race? I am not sure what amazes me most on News24 - the sheer ignorance or the venomous bigotry.

      Alfred - 2012-01-21 12:06

      @Graig. Actually Oman is a rare exception in the islamic world. Here is a more typical example of muslim tolerance. http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/01/20/indonesia-does-make-rhode-island-look-relatively-sane/#comments

      Jaba - 2012-01-23 16:03

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adeKtTlejNY plz watch

  • Godfrey - 2012-01-20 20:42

    Yaaaaawn! More hatred or violence or both from followers of the religion of pieces.

  • The-Azanian - 2012-01-20 21:40

    they thought they were living in iraaaaaan...ha ha ha.

  • Adam - 2012-01-20 23:57

    religion of peace strikes again. best part is there is no one even trying to cover up their sick way of life, they are all proud of it... openly! convert to islam now, a life of hate and misery awaits you

  • Majorus - 2012-01-21 01:28

    Does this judgement then also mean: If you spread a political message that drug dealers should get the death penalty you will be sent to prison for inciting hatred towards drug dealers? If you spread a political message that rapists should get the death penalty you will be sent to prison for inciting hatred towards rapists? If you spread a political message that peadophiles should get the death penalty you will be sent to prison for inciting hatred towards peadophiles? I despise bigotry (especially the type of bigotry that the 3 got found guilty off) but it is their views and they should be allowed to have it. Else we (the West) are no better than the Muslim theocracies

      Godfrey - 2012-01-21 04:04

      Very good point.

      dlouw84 - 2012-01-21 06:09

      How can you equate homosexuality to drug dealing, rape and paedophilia??? Faux pas of note! How embarrassing...

      atholl.hay - 2012-01-21 08:31

      You "despise bigotry" yet you equate same-sex love to pedophilia, drug dealing and rape? You are one seriously confused, ignorant and bigoted individual.

      Majorus - 2012-01-21 08:51

      dlouw84, atholl.hay - you are all missing my point. I don't equate homosexuality and sex offences. But some people do. Including some of the US' Republican Party's leaders My point is that me and you disagree with them, but that it is their right do feel that way. You can't send people to jail for having views

      Nick - 2012-01-21 09:59

      Actually majorus you miss the point of why they were found guilty and sentenced. It is because there is a law in place that says you may not incite hatred againts someone based on their sexual orientation. Its not about freedom of speech,it is about whether they broke the law or not and in this case a jury of their peers found they did. It was not a political message but a law.

      Majorus - 2012-01-21 10:48

      @ Nick. Thanks for clearing it up. Personally I don't see what they did as "inciting hatred", so I would have found them not guilty. However, since a jury of their peers did, I suppose most people do. Which is still a win for me - since the Koran calls for the death penalty for homosexuals, lets hope they also lock up everyone that distributes it. Also the distributors of the bible, which is not too keen on the topic either. Starting with the pope

  • Irene - 2012-01-21 03:01

    Great stuff. Well done Britain.

  • Mfosi - 2012-01-21 07:47

    well here is my opinion majorus; youre an ignorams! how you equate drugs with sexual orientation lacks any reason and completly baseless!!

      Majorus - 2012-01-21 08:42

      You also missed my point. Lets look at it another way: In SA, the ACDP is actively pushing for the reinstatement of the death penalty for murderers. They also believe that dealing drugs is murder. I.e. with the implication that they want convicted drug dealers to be executed. Should every member of the ACDP now be sent to prison just for thinking that way? How about the thousands of people that voted for them - should they also be put away? My point is that a country that sends people to jail for having views is not a democracy

      Nick - 2012-01-21 10:25

      @majorus - your analogy does not hold water. A person is indeed entitled to their views however if those views conflict with a law of that country and they act on their views (as the accused did in in Britain) then they can be arrested and sent to jail. This is how a democracy works. Applied to your analogy it would be a case of the ACDP canvassing support using legal means - which is allowed by the law.

      Majorus - 2012-01-21 10:52

      @ Nick So, the law in effect limits their freedom of expression?

  • Marlene - 2012-01-21 10:02

    I think its about time people took responsibility for the outcome of their "free speech". I think the message the people in this article were spreading, was nothing more than hate speech. There is a real probability that fundamentalist Muslims would take the law into their own hands and "execute" whomever they thought guilty, which would be the direct consequence of their "free speech". We all have the right to air our views, but responsibly, not where it can incite hate and violence. So, if this happens, one needs to take responsibility for our views and the way we express it, and not hide behind "free speech".

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