Carter: Flaws in death penalty

2011-09-22 20:48

Atlanta - Former US president Jimmy Carter says the execution of Troy Davis in Georgia shows that the US death penalty system is "unjust and outdated".

Davis was executed late on Wednesday night for the 1989 murder of off-duty Savannah police officer Mark MacPhail.

His supporters say he was the victim of mistaken identity, while prosecutors and MacPhail's family said justice was finally served after four years of delays.

Carter on Thursday said in a statement to The Associated Press that he hopes "this tragedy will spur us as a nation toward the total rejection of capital punishment".

"If one of our fellow citizens can be executed with so much doubt surrounding his guilt, then the death penalty system in our country is unjust and outdated".

  • mundu.olewega - 2011-09-22 21:02

    Carter...sit down and shutup...that's enough from the peanut gallery!

      Bok Fan - 2011-09-22 21:32

      what if...

      Stoutgat - 2011-09-22 21:37

      Davis was a killer and playing the race card is a sure sign of guilt - witness our own dear cadres doing so when they get caught. Here is the truth. Hope Davis is enjoying his time in hell.

      end of earth - 2011-09-22 22:07

      carter is correct. there was the element of doubt. no clear cut evidence.

      Kuhle - 2011-09-23 06:03

      @mundu.olewega (wtf) and Stoutgat (how fitting) - you're both ignorabt twats. How about reading an actual History book before you make such idiotic comments. Yes the racecard you idiot - it WAS his race that got him there in the first place. Educate yourselves on the case first. What a bunch of idiots. NX!!

      Richard Townley-Johnson - 2011-09-23 14:03

      From what I know (and I acknowledge I might have gotten the facts wrong, unlike the media who have proven to always be unbiased), Davis was already convicted of murder. This means that the "guilty beyond reasonable doubt" test had already been met (i.e. it seems extremely likely that he was the killer). His appeal meant that he now had to show that he was innocent beyond reasonable doubt. Even years after his conviction, with eye-witnesses (which get less accurate over time) he was found to be non-innocent. I just feel that the media is trying to sell papers here.

  • Bob - 2011-09-22 21:15

    We invite Jimmy Carter to come look closely at a country where the death penalty has been abolished. Maybe we'll discuss crime after that and the impact it has on an entire country and its nation.

      Janet Wootton - 2011-09-22 21:34

      Just a minute, they have the death penalty but it doesn't seem to have made any difference EXCEPT to those wrongly murdered by the state.

      Bull Terrier - 2011-09-22 22:33

      And Janet Wooton you know what about the case? Since you are such a knowledgeable person on the topic of capitol punishment, what is the murder rate per capita in the US and, for instance, Botswana and the most prominent Arab countries when compared to SA? I would love to know the objective answer and not an emotional outburst.

      Bull Terrier - 2011-09-22 22:43

      Another question I have is what is the rate of innocent capitol punishment (I am happy to use the term "innocent" loosely here) convicts versus how many innocent VICTIMS (Noting that the vast majority of VICTIMS are innocent)???????????????????

      AJ2 - 2011-09-23 14:59

      @Janet Wootton: Multitudes more people are killed in the street for no reason, than would ever be killed by the state. Sometimes the wrong personis executed (very seldom). Guess what quite often the wrong woman is raped and killed, the wrong man burnt to death by his community and the wrong farmer tortured too. How many many times have those worst of the worst criminals who have been executed by their state reoffended. None. Why is it as soon as an innocent man in the streets has been killed we soon forget about his rights (and his name even) as 'there is nothing we can do about it now' and we move on to the rights of the perpetrator instead and then worry about those for 20 years and thousands of legal hours etc etc.

  • james4usa - 2011-09-22 21:45

    And Jimbo is the most flawed ex President. The only flaw is that it took us 18yrs to fry this thug.

  • end of earth - 2011-09-22 22:11

    to mundu, bob,james4usa ;any one of you could have been davis (mistaken identity).I do not say abolish the death penalty, but lets be dead certain before we take lives for the sake of justice.

      Kuhle - 2011-09-23 06:05

      Finally, some sense!

      AJ2 - 2011-09-23 15:02

      And I would quite happily take that risk, I play the odds more dangerously crossing the road or sleeping through an electrical storm. Would it piss me off to be executed if innocent, hell yes, I'd be going deranged with anger and pain. But that is the price we pay for more than 1 man living within striking distance of another..

      AJ2 - 2011-09-23 15:03

      @end of earth: it seems they finally were dead certain as you suggest they should be, whether you or I agree..

  • Wonderboy - 2011-09-23 07:17

    @ End of earth The only doubt about this case is in the mind of idiots like Carter. The judiciary had no doubt at any of the hearings.

      OnlyaGinger - 2011-09-23 08:40

      Yes jimmy carter, amnesty int, desmons tut, hundreds of academics and lawyers are all the idiots, wonderboy is the only smart one here... Sometimes its better to keep your mouth shut when you sont understand the issues athand. Georgia is a backward uneducated obese epublican state, i have no respect for their judicial system

  • AJ2 - 2011-09-23 14:52

    I think the main flaw is keeping someone who has been sentenced to death alive in prison decade after being found guilty. It does not make sense, either you have the penalty (and the baggage that goes with it) or you dont. By half implementing it, you just end up torturing the victim's family, the convict's family and the prisoner him/herself. At some point it 'has to be over'. You lose an appeal that is it, you die. If you cannot implement that, then dont have the death penalty.

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