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Freed Palestinians arrive in Turkey

2011-10-19 08:39

Ankara - Eleven Palestinians made V-for-victory signs as they arrived in Turkey early on Wednesday as part of the thousand-for-one prisoner exchange, television pictures showed.

Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit and hundreds of Palestinians crossed Israel's borders in opposite directions on Tuesday under the swap, one of the biggest ever such exchanges between the two sides.

A private plane flew the 10 men and one woman from Cairo to the Turkish capital Ankara, where they were met at Esenboga Airport by the Palestinian ambassador to Ankara Nabil Maarouf and Turkish foreign ministry officials.

"We are grateful to the Turkish government for its support in the process of releasing the Palestinians and bringing them to Turkey," state-run Anatolian news agency quoted Maarouf as telling reporters at the airport.

"God willing we will continue to seek Turkey's support until Palestine attains freedom," he added.

Media reports said the 11 were spending the night in Ankara but it was not disclosed where for security reasons.

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu had announced on Tuesday that about 10 Palestinians would come to Turkey. At least 40 of the Palestinians were sent to Turkey, Syria and Qatar.

Turkey's once-close ties with fellow regional power Israel have deteriorated sharply since Israeli naval commandos killed nine Turks in May 2010 in a raid on a ship carrying aid to the Gaza Strip.

Turkey downgraded diplomatic ties with Israel and halted defence trade after the Jewish state confirmed last month it would not apologise for the raid.

Comments
  • VaalDonkie - 2011-10-19 09:06

    So, palestine reckons the life of one Israeli is worth 1000 Palestinians?

      Mthuthuzeli - 2011-10-19 09:24

      Please take your negativity and ignorance elsewhere.

      Irené - 2011-10-19 11:25

      @miriam So glad to see your Zionist blinkers haven't affected your judgement!! Show some compassion, I can think of a couple of incidents where ISRAELIs were also COLD BLOODED terrorists. How are you and your people more entitled to the land than the Palestinians? We are all people, and by blindly labeling others as criminals without understanding their issues is shameful- Zionism is not part of Judaism so big contradiction there between your faith and political views. I know several Jews who despise the Zionist movement for what it has done to their neighbours. Why is it that the Zionists want to make enemies of everyone, even Jews?

      BA - 2011-10-19 13:19

      Irene you are wrong. Israel has never been involved in terrorist actions. Only the palesitinians deliberately target innocent civilians. In conflict with the palestinian military, who fight from within schools and other civilian areas, there have been civilian deaths in the palestinian territories, but there is only one side that deliberately tries to murder the maximum number of civilians possible, and that is the palestinian side. Our people are entitled to a land and a state, just like every other people. The palestinians have their land, and we have ours. Let them live in their land instead of striving always to destroy Israel and murder its civilians. Zionism is a massive part of Judaism and Israel is a Jewish state. The vast, vast majority of Jews love Israel and the Zionist movement and the protection it has given our people. All Zionists want is a secure state for Jews. They do not seek to make enemies of anyone. It is you who hate Israel and the people who live there - i.e. Jews.

      Dayaan - 2011-10-19 14:00

      #BA You said " Israel has never been involved in terrorist actions." So what do you call what happened in Shatila and Sabra, that is only two incidents there is many more that has been documented. The Kahan Commission was chaired by the President of the Supreme Court, Yitzhak Kahan. Its other two members were Supreme Court Judge Aharon Barak, and Major-General (res.) Yona Efrat. The Defence Minister, Ariel Sharon, was found to bear personal responsibility. Sharon's negligence in protecting the civilian population of Beirut, which had come under Israeli control amounted to a non-fulfillment of a duty with which the Defence Minister was charged, it was recommended that Sharon be dismissed as Defence Minister. Sharon refused to resign, and Prime Minister Menachem Begin refused to fire him. Although Sharon resigned later under international pressure as Defence Minister, he remained in the Cabinet as a Minister without Portfolio. Years later Sharon would be elected Israel's Prime Minister. The Commission arrived to similar conclusions with respect to Chief of Staff, Lt. Gen. Rafael Eitan (tantamount to a breach of duty that was incumbent upon the Chief of Staff), as well as Director of Military Intelligence, Maj. Gen. Yehoshua Saguy, and other Intelligence officials — though the Mossad was not reprimanded and parts of the report commenting on its role remain under military censorship.

      BA - 2011-10-19 14:20

      At Dayaan: The Sabra and Shatila massacre took place in the Sabra and Shatila Palestinian refugee camps in Beirut, Lebanon between September 16 and September 18, 1982, during the Lebanese civil war. Palestinian and Lebanese civilians were massacred in the camps by Christian Lebanese Phalangists. In that period of time, Israel was at war with the PLO in Lebanon. The IDF never deliberately killed those civilans. The muslims, at war with the Christians in Lebanon, were killed by Christian Lebanese. What do you have to say about all the civilians in all the muslims counties that have been murdered? What do you have to say about the literally hundreds and hundreds of thousands of African Sudanese murdered by arab Sudanese? What do you have to say about the tens and tens of thousands of Kurds murdered by muslims in turkey and iraq? What do you have to say about the thousands and thousands of civilians murdered in iran, syria, the hundreds of thousands in somalia? The attacks by pakistan islamists in India? The attacks by muslims against Christians in Egypt? The attacks by muslims against Christians in Nigeria? No - you have double-standards and you are hypocritical, and you focus on a situation where there was a war going on and Christians killed muslims in Lebanon.

      Dayaan - 2011-10-19 14:36

      BA you are the hypocrite and the one with double standards Israel instituted the Kahan commission to find out who had responsibility for what took place. You just do not like the truth. The next thing you going to do is label me an Anti-Semite since that is what every critic of Israel is called by Zionists and the Israeli lobby who cannot accept that Israel is also just as guilty of atrocities.

      BA - 2011-10-19 14:43

      Dayaan I think you are deliberately missing the point here. I said there is only one side in this war who deliberately targets civilians - who is a terrorist organization, and that is the palestinians. Hamas is a terrorist organization and recognized as such by the European Union. I can give you examples of terrorist actions by palestinians because they occur daily. You had to find something that happened in 1982 committed, I repeat, by Christians in Lebanon in a civil war between muslims and Christian in Lebanon. The fact that the IDF were in the area and may have been able to prevent the massacre (or not) does not change the fact that this was not a terorist act by the IDF. Nor does it change the fact that the palestinians committ daily acts of terrorism.

  • Jaba - 2011-10-19 12:50

    "Ankara - Eleven Palestinians made V-for-victory signs", The Arab side is the clear winner of the Gilad Shalit swap. If anyone around here thought Israel could challenge the Arab standards of cruelty and primitivism, Tuesday’s events sat the record straight. Israel lost the sadism contest by knock-out. It started in the West Bank, where Hamas fans marked the joyous occasion of their countrymen’s release from jail with some trademark Arab civility: Urging renewed terror attacks and the butchering of Jews. Indeed, when it comes to pure lust for Jewish blood, the Palestinians outshine virtually any competitors.

      Jaba - 2011-10-19 13:00

      The above statements should be qualified with a note: not all Arabs are like this! It is not the Arab “race” that is flawed, but rather, Arab culture and society which are mired in a cesspool of primitivism and barbarity. One can only pity the honorable, intelligent citizens of these societies (PA) for being surrounded by such spectacular mediocrity (Hamas). Israel is indeed a villa in the jungle, an island of civility surrounded by mean-spirited, wicked barbarians.

      Dayaan - 2011-10-19 13:43

      #Jaba You certainly are showing your ignorance of Arabic culture. It is Arab culture that gave you mathematics and advanced science while Europe was in The Dark Ages. Its known that advances made by medieval Muslim astronomers, geographers and mathematicians was motivated by problems presented in Islamic scripture, Al-Khwarizmi's (c. 780-850) development of algebra in order to solve the Islamic inheritance laws,and developments in astronomy, geography, spherical geometry and spherical trigonometry to determine direction of Qibla, and dates of Islamic calendar.increased use of dissection in Islamic medicine during the 12th 13th centuries, Al-Ghazali, who encouraged study of anatomy and dissections as a method of gaining knowledge of God's creation. This culminated in the work of Ibn al-Nafis (1213–1288), who discovered pulmonary circulation in 1242.Criticisms against astrology by religions beliefs of astrologers as being superstitious.Fakhr al-Din al-Razi (1149–1209), in dealing with his conception of physics and the physical world, discusses Islamic cosmology, criticizes the Aristotelian notion of the Earth's centrality within the universe, based on the Qur'anic verse, "All praise belongs to God, Lord of the Worlds." On the basis of this verse, he argues that God has created more than "a thousand worlds beyond this world. Ali Kusçu's (1403–1474) support for the Earth's rotation and his rejection of Aristotelian cosmology (which advocates a stationary Earth)

      Jaba - 2011-10-19 13:58

      With all due respect (and there is respect) I am talking about the 21st century that we are living in - not ancient times nor the 'dark ages'. It is of no surprise the level of violence that takes place in places like Bahrain, Syria, Egypt, Turkey, Yemen and many more around the Arab world. The violence is just too widespread to be a coincidence. Thus, the unfortunate conclusion is that Israel & Palestine will never see peace for the simple reason that the "haters" are just too loud and too powerful. Don’t be mistaken – there are those on the Israeli side that are just as violent, but as proven in the 90’s – when a glimmer of hope and peace shines through – The Israelis almost unanimously cheer for peace while the hatter’s screams are drowned in songs of peace. On the topic of songs of peace – it is not a coincidence that such a large number of Hebrew songs are about peace… how many Arab songs are about peace Dayaan? Would be interesting research I tell ya

      Dayaan - 2011-10-19 14:17

      With all due respect Jaba those regimes in the countries you are mentioning has always enjoyed the support of the WEST inter alia USA and Israel. They are ruthless dictators and just as in our country we had to fight for democracy and our freedom they are doing the same. US fifth fleet home is in Bahrain and US stood by while the population was being brutally suppressed by the despots there. Now that they are fighting and getting there freedom the US is desperately trying to placate these people on behalf of Israel since the face of the Mid-East is changing for the better. The US and Israel supported these oppressive regimes since it suited them. Israelis got themselves to blame for the violence since they are the ones electing extremists into power such as the current foreign minister who does not want peace with the Palestinians since the Zionists want all territories. They are not prepared to halt there illegal occupation and illegal settlement building. WE HAD TO FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM IN THIS COUNTRY AND THEY ALSO DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO FIGHT FOR THERE FREEDOM. International law gives the occupied individual the right to resist the occupying force

      BA - 2011-10-19 14:31

      Oh my goodness Dayaan. Seriously? you are seriously blaming what is going on in Egypt, Libya, Marocco, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Jordan, Indonesia, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, all on Israel??? That is one of the things I find most frustrating about muslim apologists and those against Israel. There is absolutely no accountability and taking on of responsibility for your side in any conflict. Everything is always Israel's fault, the West's fault. When will you grow up and take responsibility for your side of this war? By the way, I also find it strange when prisoners are released into palestine, but you are still claiming you are not free. The palestinian territories are under their own governments, their own police, their own laws, their own military, their own courts - everything! Where is this occupation you are talking about?

      Dayaan - 2011-10-19 14:43

      Palestine is under occupation Israel holds the keys to the prison and WHY ARE ISRAEL AND USA TRYING TO PREVENT PALESTINE FROM GETTING STATEHOOD AT THE UN, if as you are saying that they are a state.

      BA - 2011-10-19 14:50

      I'll tell you why - because while Israel is prepared to recognize a palestinian state but refuses to accede to every single palestinian demand, the palestinians refuse to recognize Israel and to this day still want to take over the whole of the region. It's amazing to me that Abbas can officially state that he will not recognize the state of Israel and that the goal is the destruction of Israel, and yet at the same time demand that the state of palestine be recognized by the UN. I repeat, there is no physical occupation of palestinian land by Israel, nor the governing of palestinian land by Israel. What Israel is arguing about is exactly where the borders are and whether the palestinians can have all of Jerusalem. What the palestinians want is the destruction of ISrael. Why does the hamas charter call for the destruction of Israel? Why was the PLO formed in 1964, at least 3 years before the 1967 war?

      Ax - 2011-10-19 16:13

      Lies lies lies as usual. Here is a quote from abbas: "Israel is a valid state and we have recognized it. !" Source: http://rt.com/news/abbas-palestinian-statehood-israel-901/ As to taking the whole land, more lies, the statehood claim made a the UN was ONLY to establish the state within the 67 borders. Actually as the moment, if someone is trying to take the whole land it's isreal with their continuous settlement building a speed light in occupied territories. Guys, supporters of isreal, i dont know if you lie deliberately or if some statements have been drummed so long in your head that you think they are universal truth, either way, please educate yourselves a bit more

      Mthuthuzeli - 2011-10-19 16:30

      Zionists are experts at propaganda, disinformation, denying facts and outright lying. Its quite clear that their intention is to obfuscate. Their propaganda causes more mischief than they know. However, they can continue, its their own credibility which is being shot.

      BA - 2011-10-19 17:06

      At Ax: At Ax: Abbas Zaki, who is also a senior member of the Fatah Central Committee and the former PLO ambassador to Lebanon, on the same day that Mahmoud Abbas delivered his speech at the UN on September 23, declared on Al-Jazeera that "the greater goal cannot be accomplished in one go..If Israel withdraws from Jerusalem, evacuates the 650,000 settlers and dismantles the wall, what will become of Israel: It will come to an end. If we say that we want to eliminate Israel, it's not acceptable to say this. Don't say these things to the world. Keep it to yourself." So while the Palestinian president was telling the world that the Palestinians support the two-state solution, one of his representatives was telling Palestinians and the Arab world that Fatah has not given up its dream of destroying the Jewish state.

      Ax - 2011-10-20 13:20

      First what your writing is say hyperbolic i cant figure out what this zaki said, but if i get the gist, he basically said the same thing as abbas, ie go back to the 67 borders, borders which separate isreal from palestine, and as such means that they recognize them, if you had some logic you'd understand the implications. Second, there are several orthodox movement in isreal coupled with the zionist congress who say on their side that they want ALL the land for isreal (google their name and you'll see, but you probably already know that) and will fight the creation of a plestinian state to the end. But of course you choose to ignore that and focus on the negative on the other side, ignore the 2x4 in your eye and focus on the straw in your neighbor eye as usual... You're blatantly biased and have some interest in the situation, as such you opinions and any one who agrees with you is invalid.

  • BA - 2011-10-19 14:07

    What is most telling is that this article is about palestinians arriving in turkey. And in turkey there are literally tens of thousands of Kurds that have been killed by the turkish government in the Kurdish fight for equal rights and self-determination. Turkey committed mass genocide against the Armenians. Turkey tried to annex Cyprus from Greece (and has posession of half the island). And yet people like Mththuzlei and Irene criticise Israel - you can try to spin it anyway you like, but people like that are hypocrites with double-standards, who like to single out and criticize the Jewish state in an unfair and unbalanced manner, and yet ignore the human rights atrocities and real genocide going on in muslim countries like: turkey, sudan, somalia, syria, yemen and iran. I have picked out the worst, but you can take almost any muslim country and you will find human rights abuses, atrocities, violence and aggression against minorities, including pakistan, saudi arabia, jordan, morocco, indonesia, Nigeria, and so on and so on. I am sorry if you don't like the truth, but those are the facts.

      Dayaan - 2011-10-19 14:27

      #BA It is people like yourself that has double standards. Israel and US along with others in the West supported these and are still supporting some of these oppressive regimes. We as a people can't wait for the regime in Saudi Arabia to fall. The Saud family are of the most oppressive of regimes but are the darling of the west.

      BA - 2011-10-19 14:35

      At Dayaan - oh so yet again it's all Israel's fault and the US's fault? Grow up and take some responsibility for your actions. The genocide aginst African Sudanese by arab Sudanese is Israel's fault??? I feel sorry for you if you really believe that.

      Dayaan - 2011-10-19 15:12

      FOR YOUR INFORMATION WHAT HAPPENED IN SUDAN WAS CONDEMNED BY EVERYONE. And you are missing the point WHO HAS BEEN BANKROLLING AND COSYING UP TO MOST OF THESE OPPRESSIVE REGIMES. USA and Israel supported Ben Allie in Tunisia, supported Mubarak in Egypt, US still supporting Saudi Arabia are still big buddies with the regime in Bahrain and who was quite friendly with Gadaffi in Libya up till recently. As Sharon time and again stated it is better to deal with a dictator than a democratic society

      BA - 2011-10-19 15:26

      I didn't see YOU condemning what is STILL happening in Sudan, Dayaan. I have never seen your comments except where it concerns Israel. And again I have to repeat that if you really think that you can blame what goes on in arab states on Israel and the USA, and that arabs are not responsible for their own actions, then you need to grow up, wise up, and take the log out of your own eye before you try to take the splinter out of someone else's.

      Dayaan - 2011-10-19 15:44

      THE FACT IS USA and Israel are big buddies with these despots in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia and a few other countries since it suits them to deal with these dictators, They are not condemning these dictators or withdrawing there support for them now that they are fighting to over throw them the US is talking about human rights for the citizens of these countries. Where did the US come on the term enemy combatants from Israel who regularly hold people without trial in Military prisons run by Shin Bet that is where US got the idea of Gitmo from. The truth hurts and the Zionist and Israeli lobby try to cover up the abuses being committed an the Israeli side. Anyone that does not agree with them are then termed Anti-Semite.

  • BA - 2011-10-19 14:42

    Dayaan I think you are deliberately missing the point here. I said there is only one side in this war who deliberately targets civilians - who is a terrorist organization, and that is the palestinians. Hamas is a terrorist organization and recognized as such by the European Union. I can give you examples of terrorist actions by palestinians because they occur daily. You had to find something that happened in 1982 committed, I repeat, by Christians in Lebanon in a civil war between muslims and Christian in Lebanon. The fact that the IDF were in the area and may have been able to prevent the massacre (or not) does not change the fact that this was not a terorist act by the IDF. Nor does it change the fact that the palestinians committ daily acts of terrorism.

      Matthew - 2011-10-19 15:29

      Concerned about your comment:"The fact that the IDF were in the area and may have been able to prevent the massacre (or not) does not change the fact that this was not a terorist act by the IDF" From wikipediea: "By noon of September 15, the Israeli Defence Force (IDF) had completely surrounded the Sabra-Shatila camps, and controlled all entrances and exits by the means of checkpoints. The IDF also occupied a number of multi-story buildings as observation posts. Amongst those was the seven-story Kuwaiti embassy which, according to TIME magazine, had "an unobstructed and panoramic view" of the camps. Hours later, IDF tanks began shelling the camps."

      Dayaan - 2011-10-19 15:32

      I had first hand experience of being terrorised by Israeli soldiers I visited Jerusalem and saw what these little terrors do how they harass pregnant women, old men and children. I saw how they refused a woman to get to hospital to give birth she had to give birth on the sidewalk while these terrors were laughing and joking about how another terrorist is being born. They are not brought to book for this. A South African diplomat that was part of our party refused to let him be strip searched when we visited the mosque in Jerusalem - he had his diplomatic passport with him. ISRAEL DONT CARE ABOUT GENEVA CONVENTION. On a daily basis Israeli troops terrorise Palestinians when they try to get to there orchards to try to make a living. Terrorising of people is not just taking part on the side of Palestinians but also on the side of the Israelis. But of course you do have excuses for the terrorising of Palestinians that are taking place on a daily basis. The ANC was for many years listed as a terrorist organization by USA and EU up till recently Madiba had to get special permission to go to USA since they still had him listed as a terrorist. A respected professor as well as his three year old son is on the terrorist watch list, imagine a three year old is a terrorist. So please think before calling someone a terrorist, if you use US or Israeli definition of a terrorist then USA and Israel should also be declared terrorist states

      Mthuthuzeli - 2011-10-19 15:48

      Israel and the USA are ROGUE states who have been hijacked by the most despicable and violent men and women in society who wouldn't hesitate to obliterate the world if that meant them meeting their sky-wizard. The Christian fundamentalist in the US and the meniac Zionist in Israel are the REAL threat to world peace.

      Deon - 2011-10-19 15:50

      Dayaan, some policemen and Metro police also terrorise people but we don't call them terrorists. No wonder some people like Bees got fed up. The middle east will probably never have peace as both sides are fighting over the same piece of land.

      Matthew - 2011-10-19 16:08

      Don't understand the thumbs down. I only stated recorded facts to clear up BA's onesided outlook. Agree with Deon, fight has been going on too long. Strange how Jews, Christians & Moslems have a law: "Thou Shalt not Kill."

      BA - 2011-10-19 16:52

      at Matthew: None of what you say denies my factual statement that what happened in 1982 was committed, I repeat, by Christians in Lebanon in a civil war between muslims and Christian in Lebanon. The fact that the IDF were in the area and may have been able to prevent the massacre (or not) does not change the fact that this was not a terorist act by the IDF. And since when did this become a discussion about the Lebanon civil war? Everyone is ignoring the most important fact: this article is about palestinians arriving in turkey. And in turkey there are literally tens of thousands of Kurds that have been killed by the turkish government in the Kurdish fight for equal rights and self-determination. Turkey committed mass genocide against the Armenians. Turkey tried to annex Cyprus from Greece (and has posession of half the island). And yet people like Mththuzlei and Irene criticise Israel - you can try to spin it anyway you like, but people like that are hypocrites with double-standards, who like to single out and criticize the Jewish state in an unfair and unbalanced manner, and yet ignore the human rights atrocities and real genocide going on in muslim countries like: turkey, sudan, somalia, syria, yemen and iran. I have picked out the worst, but you can take almost any muslim country and you will find human rights abuses, atrocities, violence and aggression against minorities, including pakistan, saudi arabia, jordan, morocco, indonesia, Nigeria, and so on and so on.

      BA - 2011-10-19 17:00

      Dayaan - you are just so hypocritical and biased. Jews cannot even enter arab states like Saudi Arabia. and yet you complain because someone in your clearly anti-Israel group was allowed into Israel, allowed to visit a mosque, but because he refused to be searched you complain? There are muslim fundamentalist terrorists trying to kill Israeli civilians, but you think your rights not be searched is more important than Jewish lives. And another thing, you talk about Israelis not letting palestinians into Israel from palestine, and then you talk about "occupied territories" and "free palestine". PLease explain how you can be in an occupied territory and then cross the border into another territory. You want it both ways - you want to be able to enter Israel freely, and yet have your own state. How does that work???

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