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Gaza flotilla plots next move

2011-07-03 16:39

Athens  - Organisers of a Gaza-bound flotilla said Sunday they have not abandoned their plans, despite a Greek government ruling that bars vessels from leaving Greek ports for the Palestinian territory.

The campaign to breach Israel's sea blockade of Gaza suffered a major setback when Greece announced its restrictions on Friday, and authorities arrested the captain of a boat carrying American activists that tried to leave Greece without permission.

However, organisers of the flotilla were trying to maintain momentum with planned protests in Athens in the face of increasing calls for them to scrap their campaign. On Saturday, the Middle East Quartet of Mideast mediators - the US, UN, EU and Russia - urged governments to discourage Gaza-bound flotillas that could escalate tension in the region.

Activist Dimitris Plionis said there would be "some action" at the beginning of the week, but he did not specify what the pro-Palestinian activists were planning to do, presumably because Greek authorities might try to thwart their efforts.

"The ban is there and we have already said that we are still considering to sail," Plionis said. "This story is not finished."

Without elaborating, he noted that "ships are free to go to other locations" besides Gaza.

The comment raised the possibility that organisers have debated whether their vessels could declare they are bound for another destination, and then turn toward Gaza once they are in international waters.

Israel says it imposed the blockade in 2007 to stop weapons reaching Hamas, the Islamic militant group that rules Gaza.

Nine activists on a Turkish boat were killed last year in an Israeli raid on a similar flotilla, and Israel eased its land blockade after an international uproar over the incident. But Israel has pledged to thwart any attempt to reach Gaza by sea, and that aid deliveries can occur through its own established channels.

Activists reject that option, saying Israeli restrictions on the Palestinian territory of 1.5 million amount to a human rights violation.

Comments
  • Jaimo - 2011-07-03 17:10

    Troublemakers! spurred on by a irresponsible media frenzy!!!! There is no 'sea blockade' but normal security that any sovereign state would RESPONSIBLY administer and enforce for the safety of their own people and protection of their sovereign land. WELL DONE Greece - I will lavish my next salad with olive oil! Well done ISRAEL - Free peoples of the world stand with you.

  • Romans8 - 2011-07-03 17:17

    Viva Israel! Let them plan their next move, I'll be prayin' that It'll be foiled again.

      zaatheist - 2011-07-04 06:09

      Keep prayin'. The concept of prayer is quite literally insane if you also believe in a God that knows everything. He knows in advance that you are going to pray, and of course he knows how he is going to answer it! Do you actually think that God will change his behavior as result of mumbling a few words?

  • WATCHMAN - 2011-07-03 17:23

    Thank you Greece for standing up, I think I'll join Jaimo in lavishing my salid with some olive oil to. Israel has a right to defend herself and well said Jaimo, that's all it is "troublemakers spurred on by a irresponsible media frenzy"!

  • The huntchback - 2011-07-03 17:33

    Pray as much as you like, stuff your faces with olive oil drenched Salad, if your bombs could not silence the people of Gaza I dont think the greeks stopping a flotilla will, Viva Palestine Viva! Israel your days are numbered!

      j4truth - 2011-07-03 18:55

      Israel regrets having to neutralize HAMAS TERRORIST nests with bombs - but there is no other way - This is done in defense of approx 6000 terrorist rockets shot into Israeli civilians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . Israel regrets that civilians were hurt in Gaza - but what do you do when Gaza people allow Hamas bomb factories in neigborhoods and Hamas terrorists to shoot their mortars and IRAN supplied rockets from school play-grounds!! VIVA ISRAEL

      The huntchback - 2011-07-03 19:02

      @j4truth, you make as if the rockets being shot into Israel is not as a response to Israel brutality and to Israel`s continuos sabotage of the peace process and to Israels Illegal occupation and to Israels developing illegally on Palestinian soil. You make as if those rockets are just a past time of the Gazans, Think further than your nose, It is Israel and not the gazan people that is using back handed tactics to derail the peace process. those rockets being fired is a reply to the Blockade of the Gaza, because Israel thinks it has the right to tell the Gazan people who they shoulf vote for. Israel is an Apartheid State no-matter which way you look at it.

      The huntchback - 2011-07-03 19:23

      @j4truth I suppose your name means Jesus for the truth, I am sorry to burst you bubble Jesus is very dissapointed with you, You have sold him out to `Self acclaimed Christ Killers`

      j4truth - 2011-07-03 19:59

      Dear Hunchback - Sorry1 Your suggestions and imaginations are all entirely wrong. You have shown your 'colours' as a little racist pig. Bye

      The huntchback - 2011-07-03 20:37

      @j4truth its easy to make claims, back it up with some proof and then i might take you serious!

      Romans8 - 2011-07-03 22:01

      Only the Jesus of your mind would be dissapointed with j4truth and others of his ilk.

  • WATCHMAN - 2011-07-03 18:14

    Viva Israel. Palestine and all your Arab choomies are going to get blasted. Funny how people say that Israels days are numbered. When we shall see in actual fact it turning the other way by the hand of Jesus Christ. For Huntchback, God's covenant with Israel is everlasting to everlasting and God has said in His written word that they Israel will be brought back into the land and will DWELL SAFELY! Jer 32:37 Behold, I will gather them out of all countries, whither I have driven them in mine anger, and in my fury, and in great wrath; and I will bring them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely:

      j4truth - 2011-07-03 18:30

      Well said WATCHMAN - funny how the loozers (the Israel bashers) start to get nasty. Its tough when God's Word is against you - I would rather surrender to God's Word and begin reading (the bible) and studying it!

      The huntchback - 2011-07-03 18:32

      Oh watchman How sorry I feel for thee your scriptures are foreign to me, Your misguided soul to guide is my goal so drink thyne oil in lavish style but remember Me you will never beguile As the Quran and not the Bible is what turns my dial So quote from it as much as you can Know !! its verses will never stop this Man!

      Paco7 - 2011-07-04 08:46

      dream on ,security guard

      Romans8 - 2011-07-04 10:47

      Paco7 - where did I see that name last. Ah that's right I remember now, on the shelf in the supermarket!

      WATCHMAN - 2011-07-04 10:57

      Yes that name reminds me of a sachet that you would mix in with a rice dish!

  • WATCHMAN - 2011-07-03 18:17

    Damascus according to scripture your days are numbered, and I believe that we will soon see the fruition of this prophecy. Isa 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

      Cornix - 2011-07-04 11:54

      Yes, I think Damascus might be nuked by Israel some time in the future. Israel sent a plane armed with a nuclear weapon to fly over Damascus some time ago to warn them.

  • The huntchback - 2011-07-03 18:35

    Oh watchman How sorry I feel for thee your scriptures are foreign to me, Your misguided soul to guide is my goal so drink thyne oil in lavish style but remember Me you will never beguile As the Quran and not the Bible is what turns my dial So quote from it as much as you can But its verses will never stop this Man!

      WATCHMAN - 2011-07-03 22:19

      Oh huntchback how crooked and crippled thou art Both in mind, body and soul Your comments make you sound like a troll, I will continue to thrive And stay alive On the oil of God's love And also the wine of the divine To eat the living bread God's Holy Word, the Bible Not the Quran, which will pass Away into the far distant yonder No more to be heard, Conquered by God's true spoken Word, The Bible!!!

      GonnyVonYuri - 2011-07-04 20:24

      the bible is what muhamed plagarised and copied from to make his koran.

  • Adam - 2011-07-03 19:42

    please o please will some one explain to me what palestinian soil is.... as far as i know palestine has never been a country? if i am wrong please correct me with dates, currency and leaders. thanks

      Adam - 2011-07-03 21:05

      i would love to see where u got that from or how you made it up. do you realise how inaccurate you are? i have seen people write rubbish time and time again and you have managed to be consistent with them by managing to 1)have no basis for your made up facts - literally made up 2)yagree with every other israel hater that comments, and at the same time have completely conflicting versions of why the jews have no claim to the land. so well done, collectively you all seem to enforce the jewish version of the storey every time you fabricate another version of your own.

      Adam - 2011-07-03 21:07

      by the way you didnt give me what i asked for, when was palestine a country, ever? who were there leaders, what was their currency and what dates did this country exist - if you choose to stick with your lovely made up storey at least try proving me wrong with some source of some kind, as much as id love to just trust you.... i dont.

  • Adam - 2011-07-03 19:49

    about this hunchback fellow, he is the perfect model of a 'palestinian supporter' it is so obvios from all his comments that his love of the palestinian people comes from his hate of israel - not the other way around. @hunchback - this is why you will never be take seriosly, it dousnt take a half functioning brain to see your seething hate based on anything it can grasp on to, exactly like that of hamas. so i spose it would make sense you supprot these fellows. ironic how you have little time for fact based discussion, human rights and a nations right to defend it self, while having all the time in the world for a group wich openly calls for the blood of innocent men woman and children. you and them are what is commonly known as evil. evil will prevail when good men fail to act. israel has stood and will continue to stand for eternity, as long as the good people living there never fail to act against you and people like you.

      The huntchback - 2011-07-03 20:31

      Please show me some facts that you have contributes to this discusion, on the contrary I do not Hate you as I do not know you what I do not like is all the comments on here condemming the Palestinians to a life of misery and the israilis being portrayd as infellable creatures which has been chosen by God to live in palestine even if it means the total distruction of a whole excisting civilization. Your so-called good society wishes to destroy a whole excisting civilization so that they can establish there fictatious homeland. All that i have seen as proof for the rightfull excistance of this homeland is a few crazy Bible Quotes and this is suposed to convince me that israel is not an Apartheid State. try Again your tactics are not working

      The huntchback - 2011-07-03 21:00

      This Adam fellow reminds me of Julius Malema

      Adam - 2011-07-03 21:17

      seems youve changed your tone alot, seen the light? all of a sudden you're now trying to sound balanced. something none of your other posts seem to do. as far as my facts being added to this discussion, they are simply exposing you as an inaccurate, biased and malicious blogger. the question now stands as to when people wonder if you're wrong, to when you are wrong and how often you are wrong with your facts and biased with your opinions. you also seem to have the entire storey mixed up now... you clearly just wrote that you think israel wishes to destroy a whole civilisation, it is infact the palestinians who refuse to have jews, or any other non muslims for that matter living in land that is simply not theirs. israel is filled with jews christians and muslims, gaza, controlled by hamas, on the other hand is under sharia law. if israel wanted to do as you say - destroy the people of gaza and west bank, then the flotilla wouldn't make a difference, there would be full blown war and very few palestinians left to fire rockets, send suicide bombers and murder israeli families in their sleep. if you are truly dedicated to basing your opinion on facts then do more research before you pollute this wall and peoples minds with your inane ramblings. on the other hand if you simply hate israel and dont believe its right to exist, go on and re enforce their right to exist by rambling on about utter nonsense

      Adam - 2011-07-03 21:21

      again you are actually too blind to see you that you the julius, the anc, the vavi and the blaze all in one. you think this country is going down the toilet, why dont you go look how your buddy hamas runs a place. or you could sit and make more stuff up

      The huntchback - 2011-07-03 22:04

      Your rhetoric is boring, you exposed me as an `inaccurate biased malicious Blogger` How may I ask did you do that? All you do is make claims, My facts is mixed up? `Israel is an Apartheid State` Fact one (prove me wrong), Fact Two `Israel intends to destroy the Palestinian Civilization `via the Blockade of Gaza (prove me wrong), Fact three `All the claims made to justify Israel as a State thus Far is a few raving Bible freaks quoting scriptures that means nothing to me` (give me some other proofs other than quotes from the Bible) my facts are still the same, the onus is upon you to disprove them, which you seem to think will be done by making claims and asking silly questions and hurling insults. You have done nothing but prove that you are in-fact a inaccurate biased malicious Blogger with no ability but to rave and shout without making any sense.

      The huntchback - 2011-07-03 22:08

      Regarding your claim that the Arabs does not want any other people Jews and Christians on a Land that simpy is noy theirs? How ignorant of you, do you not Know that Jews and Christians have been living alongside Muslims in Palestine long before the Illegal Zionist Occupying State was ever Formed They were living quite Happily until the Zionist arrived

  • Zanu - 2011-07-03 21:47

    Do they even realize how bizarre they sound? One day Israelophobia (or PseudoPalestinia Syndrome) will be a medically recognized mental disease, with the symptoms including denial of reality, history and truth, as well as unmitigated hatred and paranoia.

      Zanu - 2011-07-03 22:04

      By 'they' I mean the pathetic so called humanitarian 'activists'(all they are is tree-hugging Losers & racists)

      The huntchback - 2011-07-03 22:23

      The Only one making an ass of themselves is you quoting a jews in defence of jews?

      Paco7 - 2011-07-04 08:49

      everything that u are describing here is what your brothers in America and Israel are suffering from currently,u are such a joke

      Irené - 2011-07-04 09:06

      Zanu, the fact that you dislike tree huggers says a whole lot, most religious people feel no need to respect or protect the environmnet because they believe god gave them the earth to do as they please, we rational creatures know that we have one planet that is being destroyed by the greed and ignorance of the religious lot. You call us paetic for siding with humanetarians instead of muslim bashers. What would jesus do? Do you think he would favour the israelis treatment of muslims, he preached love, yet you guys are bloodthirsty wishing death and suffering upon innocent people. How pitiful you are, to think you are fullfilling some biblical prophrcy, tell me, why is god so concerned with israel and does not care for e rest of the world? Do you really think that one piece of land would be of more sentimnetal value to the omnipotent creator of the universe? Your universe ends where your ego ends, how stupod one must be to believe that god is oveseeing everything in israel, according to romans8, yet does not get involved in other world issues, how utterly one dimensnal and unbalanced your world views are. I do not dislike jews, but i do stand up for palestinian rights, e way they have treated palestinians will cause the conflict to go on for another 100 yrs, if they were eally gods people, i think they would act more compassionately and less racist.

      Zanu - 2011-07-04 09:42

      6) The sentimental value of the land is none of your Business; we don’t question your pathetic existence do we? BTW, I will tell you what Jesus would do! He would protect the community he came from, the Jewish community. And he would tell the Palestinians to drop their sword because violence would lead them to nowhere. 7) You have one very unbalanced world view! Its ppl like you that would help this conflict go on for another 100 yrs. 8) We are all Gods children, and He hates your racist behaviour. 9) Irené De Beer you dislike jews!… the evidence reassures this fact; as your push and support for palestinian terror continues.

      Irené - 2011-07-04 10:03

      Wasnt it the Jews that murdered jesus? If he wanted the Palestinians to be righteous, he wouldve expected the same from Israelis- he Zanu- you are the one who cannot wait for the flotilla to be blown out of the water- you Anti-Palestinians are the ones with bloodthirst on your minds- not once have I wished anything like that upon the jewish or anuy other folk- I do not dislike Jews- you are just resorting to the Typical :"You dont agree with us so you must be antisemetic" nonsense. Where have I ever wished anything bad upon Israelis? Thats right I havent. Ah my pathetic existence, you are opposed to science, sustainability, reason and equality- God cannot hate- thats a human emotion- god is not human, if he is the omnipotent creator of the entire awesome universe, you would think he would have better things to do than get involved in selfish petty human arguments.- you guys have made 'god' whatever you want him to be. Show me one piece of my writing that is RACIST OR ANTISEMITIC.

      Zanu - 2011-07-04 10:44

      I see the first part of my comment didn’t publish… I guess you can guess what it said seeing as I am so repetitive. You are anything but rational btw. I didn’t call you an anti-Semite – I don’t care much for who/what you are; I just said that your support for Hamas, is indirectly responsible of Israelis dieing from missiles and terror – which interns proves your dislike for Jews. The way the Jews were responsible of Jesus’ murder, is the same way You help to slay Israeli’s today… The Jews gave away His hiding to the Romans – they didn’t perform the act, in this same logic, you wordlessly support Hamas’ terror. Just in case you care to know He was crucified in Jerusalem on the orders of the Roman Prefect of Judaea, Pontius Pilate, on the charge of sedition against the Roman Empire.

      Cornix - 2011-07-04 12:15

      Zanu, I have to disagree with you about Jesus' crucifixion. The Jews were responsible for Jesus' death. Pontius Pilate tried almost everything to get Jesus walking, but the Jews forced him to execute Jesus. In the end, he washed his hands to clear himself of the guilt and gave them their wish. They said: "His blood be on us, and on our children". For that reason, God punished the Jews, though they are still His people and He still loves them. I believe that the Jews have already suffered for what they did and Jesus has already forgiven them. God has already punished them and we humans are not supposed (allowed) to continue punishing them. Any Christian, or any other person justifying the killing of Jews for this reason, is being irrational. Jew-hatred is unbiblical. Jesus had to die, otherwise we all would have been lost anyway.

  • Zanu - 2011-07-03 21:49

    Fact is, there is absolutely no humanitarian crisis in Gaza. have a look at the link below: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4088354,00.html Recently, a Sudanese minister who visited Gaza, said he wished his own country would be so prosperous. And whatever goods the so-called-activists wish to give the Gazans, they can be effectively sent via the Erez crossing from Israel (as are thousands of tons of good transferred every month), or the Rafah corssing from Egypt. Furthermore, since Hamas stopped firing rockets at Israel, Israel didn't have any military operations in Gaza. So given all of this, is this flotilla really necessary? How about, making a flotilla to Syria, where people really are oppressed and slaughtered by a tyrant? But that wouldn't be as sexy as blaming Israel, right? Not to mention - extremely dangerous, since unlike Israel - provoking Syria would actually get you killed, as you well know. all the 'activists' are doing in this Gaza flotilla, is showcasing their extreme hypocrisy and making world-class asses out of themselves.

      The huntchback - 2011-07-03 22:26

      The only one making a fool of himself is you, ynews is Israeli news fool do you think we believe them, ha ha ha, please quote some unbiased source for your proppoganda

      Paco7 - 2011-07-04 08:52

      is this another pro Israeli link ???

      Irené - 2011-07-04 09:08

      Sucker for propaganda, try reading a non israeli news source and see what they say.

  • WATCHMAN - 2011-07-03 22:31

    Hey Huntchback, six commentators on this page against one can't be wrong. Sounds like your toast like your lame duck Palestinian buddies!!!!

      Paco7 - 2011-07-04 08:55

      wow six against one,so then u can't be wrong.I think u should run for president with logic like that, moron

      Irené - 2011-07-04 09:14

      Oh so the most popular opinjon must be right? How utterly childish your reality is. You quote scriptures from a jealous and genocidal god, while we advocate human rights, id rahter make the unpopular informed choice, than the popular choice. It blows my mind to see how utterly one dimensional you people are, im sure your god is giving you some browny points for ignoring the plight of your fellow humans.

      Zanu - 2011-07-04 10:55

      Irene' u r so 3d its crazy

      Irené - 2011-07-04 12:43

      Zanu I am still waiting for you to give one motivation for all the insults you have hurled my way- I give reasons for disagreeing with you- you call us name.

      Cornix - 2011-07-04 12:52

      Irené, your image of God is completely warped. Genocidal God? You must be kidding me, right? As I said the other day, you are totally brainwashed, you poor soul. Shame.

  • mish82 - 2011-07-04 07:11

    It's not about taking the side of Muslims or Jews. It's about being human and standing up for those who are being oppressed. If you can put all your prejudices aside and use your God-given common sense, you will all realize how wrong it is to oppress a people. We are all God's creation and we are here on a test. We are all the children of Adam and Eve, brothers and sisters. This hatred we have for each other needs to stop if we are going to do what is right.

      Zanu - 2011-07-04 07:44

      I think the Jews are being human by their choice of life over death. I support their choice and their use of self defence, and I will support Palestinians if they ever renounce terror – and they use of death and destruction to achieve anything. This is not about freedom. Occupation is wrong, however, but this is life or death - much more complex than you think.

  • j4truth - 2011-07-04 08:37

    'Palestinians' only were called such in 1966! They are originally from Egypt/Syria/ Jordan and came into the land in 1930/40's to serve the British Occupation as migrant labourers. The British are responsible for causing this whole dilemma - and should pay for them ('the palestinians') to be resettled from where they came. (Egypt/ Syria/ Jordan) Until then the Arab nations are just using the Palestinians for cannon fodder and human shields for THEIR ISLAMIC (Loser)QWEST FOR THE CONTROL OF JERUSALEM (the center of the World and future CAPITOL of the World under the Jews and returned KING JESUS CHRIST!)

      Irené - 2011-07-04 09:20

      Oy psych alert. Still waitin for the bible prophecies to be fulfilled? Your right, jews do want israel to be the capital of the world, but believing that jesus will return to israel??? Holy crap, you are seriously delusnal. I suggest you take up some physics and science. Jesus will never return he died and will remain dead like every other human that was ever bor and died.

  • daaivark - 2011-07-04 09:59

    I find the way you people so blithely speak for your God, or Jesus, or whomever, completely hilarious. Who Do you think you are, other than extremely intolerant, hate-filled little people with attitudes that would make Jesus or any other deity cringe. Shame on you all.

      Irené - 2011-07-04 10:19

      This always rings very true wrt the religious: 'Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.' Andre Gide

  • WATCHMAN - 2011-07-04 10:59

    All you antisemite Israel haters. It amazes me that the dribble you write is inconsistent and incoherent!

      WATCHMAN - 2011-07-04 13:26

      Irene - Is God a God of confusion, because if He is then I don't want to follow him. As far as I am concerned THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD, and no other book compares with it comes near to it and has the power that is therein!!

      Irené - 2011-07-04 13:43

      Watchman- I hope I never meet you in person. Where is your proof that the bible is the word of God? And where is your proof that every and any other religious scripture in the history of man is wrong?? Oh so if the bible isnt 100% the word of god with all the incest, genocide then you reject your faith? Well I knew I would get through to you sooner or later- you guys see signs and prophecies because it suits your agenda- yet you cannot prove it with any fact or evidence. I believe the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the only true Creator- all other gods and prophets are false- try prove he does not exist- or prove t me that your god exists. equally difficult isnt it?

      WATCHMAN - 2011-07-04 14:09

      Irene De Beer,I don't have to justify why I believe God's word, I live by faith! By what standard do you live. Blessed is he that has believed but has not seen. You see my faith is exactly that. It is by faith and when I put God's word into action I have seen the fruit of it. Besides if God had a whole lot of different road maps to get to a destination, I don't think I would get there. God is not a God of confusion, there can only be one way! You obviously have a lot of ghosts in your closet that make you dislike the God of the Bible, which were not brought on by God, but perhaps people that upset you in the past and mistreated you. Have a nice day anyhow and best regards to the Flying Spaghetti Monster and his friend Puff The Magic Dragon.

  • Cornix - 2011-07-04 14:53

    Well, well, well, I see my comment about the rockets has been deleted. I have a good idea why. ;-) Anyway, go read up about the Iron Dome, a mobile air defense system developed by Israel to protect its civilian population. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZMQTWcBPxM Israel spends thousands of dollars in order to protect its civilians in a civilised way.

      Zanu - 2011-07-04 16:07

      Ye 'they' delete many comments unnecessarily. They report them because they can’t handle the truth.

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