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Israel won't apologise for Turkish deaths

2011-07-21 18:58

Jerusalem - An Israeli cabinet minister says Israel won't apologise for killing nine Turkish activists aboard a Gaza-bound flotilla last year.

Moshe Yaalon says he recently held three rounds of talks with the Turks, who demand such an apology to help mend frayed ties. But he says "we are not ready to apologise".

However, he hinted the position could change, saying "there might be some dispute" within the cabinet.

The activists were trying to breach Israel's naval embargo of Gaza. Israel maintains that commandos who raided the ship opened fire because activists attacked them.

The activists say they were attacked first.

Yaalon says an upcoming UN report on the raid is expected to defend the naval operation and the blockade but accuse Israel of using excessive force.

Comments
  • Romans8 - 2011-07-21 19:10

    The Turks and other Muslims along with their liberal minded friends had no business trying to enter into Gaza other than by the controlled means that Israel had put in place. VIVA ISRAEL!!!

      james4usa - 2011-07-21 19:35

      Little problem Israel used to be called PALESTINE, 700,000 Palestinians kicked out of their homes.

      BrassCopper - 2011-07-22 06:31

      James... and again your usual lies. No one was kicked out of Israel... the Arabs were told too leave by Syria, Egypt, Jordon and Lebanon, as they declare war and kill all the Jews (at least that was their plan). The only people to be kicked out are Jews. They got kicked out of Iran, Iraq, Libya, Morocco, Saudi, Lebanon, Tunisia, Syria and Yemen... you lost your return note when the Arab world told you to leave... but you can take up any one of the empty spots the "Jew" left for you anywhere in the countries above. I will never feel sorry for the Palestinians as their sorrow is self-inflicted, furthermore they refuse to make peace - only more war, death and destruction.

      Monacoroyals - 2011-07-22 07:22

      Israel. You have nothing to apologise for!! They came to support your children’s killers (Hamas) You did what you had to do - don’t regret it. If they came to kill my family I would of sunk that ship! God bless you Israel - may you one day see peace - when the Palestinians choose peace that is.

  • WATCHMAN - 2011-07-21 19:19

    Viva Israel. To all these lamo's that burden themselves with Israel, you're waisting your time, because those that do are going to be cut in pieces, see Zec 12:3. Israel is a sovereign state given to the Jewish nation by God / Yaweh / Jehovah. Israel is the only country on earth given a title deed by God Almighty, who is our sovereign Lord Jesus Christ. God said it and that seals it!

      james4usa - 2011-07-21 19:32

      Big problem. Man cannot but make a worm yet have made gods by the dozen.Famous Hebrew kings are fictional. Not one is mentioned in Sumerian writings. Moses in the desert bs NO archiological evidence found. The Christian God and Jewish God aint the same thing. See Real Zionist News for the truth.

      eugene smit - 2011-07-21 19:46

      James4USa do you have any idea what you are talking about? THey clearly found the Burned mountain, the 12 pillars (pieces) and the place they offered to God! But yes you are correct, the Jews- who are mostly Edom Rev 29. and Rev 3.9 for those of you who are educated would know John Macabee conquered Edom in 125BC and Mass converted them to "Jewism", Becuase "Jewism" is the tradition of the elders from Babylon they follow for which Jesus rebuked them for following man made laws.You do not have God if you do not have his Son (Jesus) And no, the term "Jew" was never used to refer to the whole 12 tribes of Israel, most people dont know the 10 tribes was taken away and lost their identity and they where great in numbers and found nations as told they would do in the Bible. There is no such thing as Goyim either, the word Goy or Etnos means NATIONS!!!!!! Its false doctrine which tells us that it means "non Jew". The Pasotles was told to go to the lost sheep of Israel and they went to Europe!!!!..open your eyes people, read your own Bible and dont let people tell you what it contains,,because they are lying to you to benefit to get your money!

      janbantjies - 2011-07-21 21:46

      There is a significant portion of orthodox Jews who believe that Jews should not have their own homeland, as God, who chose them for the purposes of going out into the world to usher in to mankind the brotherhood of man made this a condition. Should they acquire their own land or country, they will be forever at war over it. They will never know peace.

      Liberty - 2011-07-22 08:37

      @james all form of religions are fictional with no proof to substantiate the writings. I guess it boils down to what story you choose to believe if any.

  • j4truth - 2011-07-21 19:22

    WHEN ARE THE TURKS GOING TO SAY SORRY FOR THE MASSIVE ETHNIC CLEANSING and GENOCIDE (1.5 million people) COMMITTED IN ITS RECENT PAST????????????????

      Romans8 - 2011-07-21 19:31

      And they have the cheek to criticize Israel!

      OnlyaGinger - 2011-07-21 20:43

      @watchman. Blatant unsubstantiated islamophobia and racism.you are a Pitiful insecure and delusional creature. Turkish muslims are one of the most hospitable people i have met in my travels overseas.

      Phantom - 2011-07-22 09:26

      OnlyaGinger, do you know about something called Islamic supremacy? If not, then you have some research to do.

  • Romans8 - 2011-07-21 19:52

    If you study the history of the land, the Palestinians were never there, only in very few numbers. The Jews did not steal the land as you and others are so blindly told by the mainstream media. They were given the right to go back to their homeland as a nation and given the right to govern it again by a unanimous vote of the United Nations with Britain abstaining. This all happened in one day as the Prophets foretold. Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. The fact that this all happened in one day is only an act of God Almighty, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It was foretold that they would be a nation without a land and scattered among the nations and brought back. Eze 6:8 Yet will I leave a remnant, that ye may have some that shall escape the sword among the nations, when ye shall be scattered through the countries. It was foretold that God would regather them back. Jer 31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock. Why is this going to happen. Is God doing this for Israel, no he is doing it because of His name that through them He will show His glory to the world.

  • meelo - 2011-07-21 20:01

    There were women among those that got killed, so lets ask where in the world would a women attack an armed soldier.Doesnt make sense. Arrogance at the highest level Killing is wrong but not wanting to apologize is almost worse.

      umhlopo - 2011-07-21 20:29

      look in our townships

      mecan - 2011-07-22 08:06

      There have been women suicide bombers in Israel, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan, so what? Whichever way you want to look at it - Israel did the right thing! Furthermore, if some nations came to kill my family - I would hope the South African Armed Forces would protect our cities, towns and villages in the same way Israel protects her own. If Self defence = killing; then going to murder Israeli's is ok in your view. You are twisted meelo

  • Pascal86 - 2011-07-21 21:15

    Romans8, Jaimo, Watchman.... you guys are the biggest idiots. That's all. There's no point arguing/debating with you, you'll never detach your ridiculous beliefs from the argument, and time and time again, others have pointed out how you just don't follow logic, but this seems to fall on deaf ears/be read by blind eyes. And don't reply to this, I'm not interested in your non-sensical-pseudo-religious-political-cult-ideas.

      Romans8 - 2011-07-21 21:42

      Oh really, you'll see how logical they are when Jesus comes back, oh so knowledgeable one! If you are not interested in our beliefs or ideas, don't read them!

      BrassCopper - 2011-07-22 07:00

      What logic Pascal? You are a hypocrite... and there is no point arguing/debating with you either. What makes you so special? As long as Palestinians choose terror rather than peaceful means to a peaceful resolution, so do you support (directly I might add) the murder of Israeli civilians.

      GTFO - 2011-07-22 10:05

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  • daaivark - 2011-07-22 07:18

    @Brasscopper and his ilk. It is just ironic that you people refer to logic when all I see here is emotive, hate driven bile with no logic whatsoever. Remember people, referring to some scripture or religious tenet, and the old "God-gave-the-holy-land" bugbear does NOT qualify as logic.

      BrassCopper - 2011-07-22 07:34

      There is logic in self defence - it’s called life You are either too thick to understand that or too intolerable of Jews

      Phantom - 2011-07-22 09:32

      Daaivark, there's none so blind as those who will not see.

  • MosesMabhida - 2011-07-22 08:28

    Every human being of sound mind should know this by now. In any event, US and Israel are not the Satan that the Ayatollah of Rock'n rollah declared. With the way the Arabs behave one wonders if perhaps they are the ones who are worthy of that title. On the topic though, I have come to realise that the Israelis are demonised, many many times without justification. Clearly the Arabs have never wanted Israel to exist and have tried many times, unsuccessfully, to drive them into the sea. Now the Israelis are pretty straight forward people. You threaten them, they sort you out. Nothing wrong with defending your state and it citizens. Especially against unsavoury fundamentalists who persist on threatening and attacking Israel.

      MosesMabhida - 2011-07-22 08:44

      We can argue on your definition of "killed" forever. I believe it was self-defence. While you believe it was cold blooded murder.

      kubs - 2011-07-22 09:00

      Sure they attacked the heavily armed Israeli soldiers with the cans of tin food they were carrying for the palestinians..the pro israel lunatics are actually starting to believe their own propoganda

      MosesMabhida - 2011-07-22 09:38

      Kubs. With all due respect (and there is respect) it is you that has been brainwashed by anti-Israel propaganda. But you know what... don’t take my world for it, for pictures are priceless. Go watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4594E-9PnEg BBC’s Panorama - What happened on the Flotilla to Gaza

      MosesMabhida - 2011-07-22 09:56

      PS To those reporting comments here (none of mine have been removed btw)... as bad as they are, whether pro or anti Israel and/or pro or anti Palestinian, these comments should not be censured. Our freedoms include speech - and that should be respected. Even racist comments! Now it seems like I am communicating with Casper

  • Cynical_BStd - 2011-07-22 08:57

    Looks like the Jewtals also advocate Jihad like Moslem Jihadis - I wonder what is the Hebrew word for Jihad Rabbis Dov Lior and Yacob Yousef had endorsed a highly controversial book, the King's Torah. It justifies killing non-Jews, including those not involved in violence, under certain circumstances. The fifth chapter, entitled "Murder of non-Jews in a time of war" has been widely quoted in the Israeli media. The summary states that "you can kill those who are not supporting or encouraging murder in order to save the lives of Jews".

  • Phantom - 2011-07-22 09:14

    All this mud-slinging is pointless. We might as well just stop debating. We will never agree. I support Israel and that will not stop. I have my reasons, but will share them here.

      Phantom - 2011-07-22 09:22

      ... will NOT share them here.

      GTFO - 2011-07-22 13:26

      implying i care...

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