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Magazine risks Muslim fury with cartoons

2012-09-19 09:00

Paris - A French magazine is set to increase Muslim ire by printing cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad on Wednesday a day after 12 died in an Afghan suicide bombing, the deadliest attack linked to an anti-Islamic film.

A female suicide bomber killed 12 people in Afghanistan on Tuesday in the deadliest single attack attributed to the controversial film which has sparked furious protests across the Muslim world.

The deaths raised to over 30 the toll from incidents linked to the trailer for Innocence of Muslims, a film produced by extremist Christians in the United States that depicts the Prophet Muhammad as a thuggish womaniser.

After a week that has seen protests in at least 20 countries, there were fears that the wave of anger in the Islamic world could hit harder in Europe as it emerged that French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo was planning to publish cartoons caricaturing the Prophet Muhammad in its Wednesday edition.

Charlie Hebdo is no stranger to controversy over its handling of the issues relating to Islam.

Last year it published an edition "guest-edited" by the Prophet Muhammad that it called Sharia Hebdo. The magazine's offices in Paris were subsequently fire-bombed.

Disapproval of 'excesses'

Charlie Hebdo's latest move was greeted with immediate calls from political and religious leaders to avoid inflaming the situation.

French Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault issued a statement expressing his "disapproval of all excesses".

The magazine's editor, originally a cartoonist who uses the name Charb, said the images would "shock those who will want to be shocked".

Dalil Boubakeur, the senior cleric at Paris's biggest mosque, appealed for France's Muslims to remain calm.

President Barack Obama said on Tuesday he expected governments in the Muslim world to protect American diplomats, despite their revulsion at a film made on US soil deemed offensive to their faith.

"The message we have to send to the Muslim world is that we expect you to work with us, to keep our people safe," Obama said during a taping of the Late Show with David Letterman on CBS TV.

Investigation


US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, meanwhile, said "we are taking aggressive steps to protect" diplomatic missions worldwide.

Among those killed so far have been four US diplomatic staff in Libya, including ambassador Christopher Stevens, who died when militants laid siege to the US mission in Benghazi a week ago on 11 September in a four-hour attack.

Clinton said the FBI had launched an investigation inside Libya, and she vowed that "we will not rest until the people who orchestrated this attack are found and punished".

In Afghanistan, Hezb-i-Islami, the second largest insurgent group after the Taliban, said the suicide bomb attack was to avenge the "insult" of the film.

"The bombing was in retaliation for the insult to our Prophet," spokesperson Zubair Sidiqi said by phone from an undisclosed location.

Security officials said nine foreigners including South Africans were among those killed on a highway leading to Kabul airport when the bomber blew up her station wagon alongside a minivan carrying foreign workers.

Hezbollah warning

Taliban fighters last week stormed a British-run airfield, killing two US Marines and destroying six US fighter jets in another act of vengeance.

In Lebanon, the head of the Shi'ite Muslim movement Hezbollah, listed in the United States as a terrorist organisation, made a rare public appearance to warn of "very dangerous" repercussions if the entire film is released, rather than the 14-minute trailer that has already sparked outrage.

Al-Qaeda's franchise in North Africa urged Muslims to storm US embassies and kill American envoys in Muslim countries, monitoring group IntelCentre said.

The film-maker Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a 55-year-old Egyptian Copt and fraudster who was sentenced to 21 months in prison in the United States in June 2010, has not been seen since Saturday when he was questioned.

The risks now facing those involved in the film's production were underlined when a Salafist cleric in Egypt called on Monday for the deaths of all those involved in its making.

Before dawn on Monday, officers from the Los Angeles County sheriff's department escorted four members of Nakoula's family to join him in hiding.

Violent protests


Egypt's public prosecutor has ordered that seven US-based Egyptian Copts be tried over their role in the film, accusing them of "insulting the Islamic religion, insulting the Prophet and inciting sectarian strife".

However Interpol in a statement said it was not aware of any request from Egypt for the arrest of people related to the film but stressed that its charter "forbids it from undertaking any matter of a predominantly political, military, religious or racial nature".

In Pakistan, two protesters died after demonstrating against the film close to the Afghan border and outside the US consulate in Karachi.

Police used tear gas to disperse more than 2 000 protesters trying to reach the US consulate in the city of Peshawar, chanting anti-US slogans and burning the Stars and Stripes flag.

Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan blocked access to YouTube, following the video-sharing website's failure to take down the clip of the film. Saudi Arabia and Russia indicated they may follow suit.

In east Jerusalem hundreds of Palestinians clashed with Israeli border police, hurling stones and firebombs at a checkpoint.

Comments
  • christopher.shining - 2012-09-19 09:05

    Careful now...

      jack.blacking.56 - 2012-09-19 09:34

      Come on, this attack was in retaliation to a stupid YOU TUBE video, a pathetic video that obviously hit a nerve with these people, My question to them is WHY? Why get so upset, resorting to killing innocent civilians when you believe that the video is not a true reflection on your religion? I know that the only reason i sometimes get upset is because the truth sometimes hurts, Perhaps this could be case here, i don’t know, but really killing people over a video. Hell why don’t they come back with a similar video depicting the truth, or ripping of Christians, Jews, i'm sure they'll all just laugh it off, instead of killing everyone. LONG LIVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!

      UncleShep - 2012-09-19 09:46

      Islamic teachings are all about peace and Muslims are peace loving people....JUST DO NOT PROVOKE THEM.......!

      carl.lutzer.3 - 2012-09-20 21:23

      Intollerant bastards

  • arthur.hugh - 2012-09-19 09:14

    That's a pretty doff idea. They know these militants will just keep killing more innocent people, so why go and stir the pot more?

      LanfearM - 2012-09-19 12:06

      What then Hugh? Must we just sit with our hands folded and let the Muslims dictate to the rest of the world what we can and can't publish? Where will that end?

  • gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-19 09:16

    World Religion Statistics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations

      sean.carbutt - 2012-09-19 09:49

      The numbers are also so high because, just like the Spanish catholics did, if you do not convert, we kill you all in the name of our Lord. Go figure.

  • helio.paulo.7 - 2012-09-19 09:22

    If innocent people are killed then the people in charge of this magazine should be arrested for inciting violence. You know what will happen so why do you insist on inflaming tensions............

      Bob.Cee123 - 2012-09-19 10:59

      Yes, and the clothing outlets who sell miniskirts or other revealing ladies clothes should be implicated in rape cases. Along with the rape kit, all labels of the victim's clothing should be inspected and the 'responsible' store should be sued for 'making' the rapist unable to exercise impulse control. See how much sense this makes. The tail is wagging the frikkin' dog here people. The world must stop pandering to the chattering, ranting, raging, psychotic, neurotic, fundaMENTAList lunatics!!!

  • John Peter Steyn - 2012-09-19 09:37

    Why the hell are Muslims so reactionary? Chill out people, learn to tolerate other opinions.

      customdesign - 2012-09-19 10:08

      Faizal, you say it is tolerant, but the actions of Muslims say otherwise. Funny how there is not much being said by the Islamic community against these Muslims who are perpetuating violence? In the meanwhile, Syrians are dying by the thousands, and no one in the Muslim community went in such an uproar to help them. So what is more important? That Muslim brothers are being slaughtered indiscriminately? Or that someone insults your belief system? You sound moderate, but unless you and the Muslim community speak out and act against these acts, the world will always view your religion as murderous and intolerant. Show us by what you do what your religion says.

      customdesign - 2012-09-19 11:25

      It wasnt about the drome numbnut, it was about the movie, a silly movie. That is what your terrorist organisation said it was about. And why take on America when there is over 27 000 of your brothers and sisters who died by Islamic hands? It seems like that brotherhood you speak of is a dead illusion.

      LanfearM - 2012-09-19 12:11

      @ Faizal - so you condone the killing of innocents because you feel insulted? Nobody is "attacking" Islam, it is satire. You contradict yourself in you comment, i.e. you say that the qur'an says there is no "compulsion in religion" yet you limit freedom of speech? Islamic countries sentence "apostacy" with death yet there is "no compulsion"? So how do you concile the two?

  • Zzsm Moolla - 2012-09-19 09:42

    @jack this is christians extremist trying to provoke islam . no muslim will laugh. if u perceive christianity as a joke then laugh all u want

      sean.carbutt - 2012-09-19 09:53

      You're right and i garee with you but my problem with some of the muslims is that they resort to killing to defend their religion, yet on a friday they drink halaal black lable? Mmmmh. A lot of double standards and twisting of the faith.

      other.justin.1 - 2012-09-19 10:07

      Whatever happened, does that justify the killing of innocent people? I think not.

      pearson.botha - 2012-09-19 12:08

      All religions are a joke. What makes you think YOURS is any different? Same claptrap, different language. Funny how muslims are allowed to burn and trample other people's symbols in the street but nobody may do the same to theirs?

  • joyce.beeton - 2012-09-19 09:56

    When you see a dog baring its teeth, you don't put out your hand to stroke it on the head. Same applies to intolerant people, don't put out articles or whatever that you know is going to start trouble.

      Bob.Cee123 - 2012-09-19 11:55

      Joyce while your example may work for our approach to dogs on the street, it is a false analogy in the context of this situation. The less tolerant of us may respond by saying that we have 'not so humane' ways of dealing with dogs which we know to be consistently and unnecessarily agressive and which pose a danger to those nearby, for no valid reason at all. Those however, who decide to take a 'dog whisperer' approach to matters will know that an effective means of dealing with such aggressive dogs is for 'trained professionals' to confront them directly, turn them on their backs, hold them down, look them in the eyes and make it perfectly clear that their little tantrums and unreasonable, disproportionate aggression will not be tolerated, and if they continue, we can then resort to the less humane approach alluded to above.

  • Truth.nnete - 2012-09-19 10:05

    Few years ago people built a sculpture of the erected Jesus,Christians never killed anyone bcos Jesus doesnt need human protection he is the son of God.If you come to me now and say, Jesus is a fool I will laugh at you and ask God to forgive you and I will still talk to you.Who am I to protect the Lord.Plz calm down people stop being so foolish.

      christina.setloboko - 2012-09-19 12:41

      agree with you Truth-nnete

  • other.justin.1 - 2012-09-19 10:05

    I have no problem with Islam and Muslims, in fact some of the nicest people I know are Muslim. What I do have a problem with is the violence. How can you claim that Islam is a religion of peace when so much violence occurs because of it. This paints Muslims in a very bad light. It is very sad, I think the Prophet would have disapproved. To kill innocent people because there is freedom of expression in a country that allows people to express their views, no matter how distasteful, is a sin, whether you are Christian, Jewish or Muslim. What this moron did in the US was stupid, but people should be allowed to be stupid if they want, it is what freedom of expression is all about. I am a Christian, I have not killed anyone because of the countless distasteful depictions of Christianity or Jesus or my God. To kill is a sin, finished, the ten commandments are followed by Muslim, Jewish and Christian alike, it does not say in fine print "...but if someone does or says something you don't like, then it is OK...". Very sad story.

      Bob.Cee123 - 2012-09-19 12:49

      @ hoosain.jacobs - Why has nobody been killed for this image then? Doesn't it tell you something about the mindset of a disproportionate amount of muslims and the way their mind works? This is a link to a link. The huffington article does not show the actual picture which The Onion news published, but simply describes it. While The Onion News published this image in a satirical manner, they certainly make a serious point. And NO, the point is not that muslims are to be admired for their deication to preserving the sanctity of their prophet, but rather quite the opposite. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/the-onion-no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image_n_1884226.html

  • Gill McCain - 2012-09-19 10:54

    To all Muslims,Christians,Jews, and other gullible fools - when will you start to use your brains and question all the rubbish you were told as children? There are some nice cosy stories, and some not quite so nice, in your Holy Books. That is all they are, just stories. They were originally told centuries ago to keep the masses in line, have you not moved on yet? There is no proof for any religion therefore it is all UNTRUE. Decide for yourself, do not believe all that your priests and imams and rabbis tell you. Oh and by the way - Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are also just stories, OK. Don't be too upset about this, I am sure you realized the truth when you were about 8 years old. Time to realize the same about your false Gods and prophets.

      LanfearM - 2012-09-19 12:33

      @ Faizal - and why should we believe YOU? Stupid example as well, people avoid incest due to evolutionary survival instincts, i.e. it made for weak and stupid kids.

      CaptainGaza - 2012-09-19 12:43

      Faizal, be honest with me and yourself now, have you ever, in your whole life, met a girl of 9 years old who is past puberty??? If you answer yes, I'd love to see your evidence for it, if you haven't does it not make sense that what they say about her is a lie, a lie to justify Mohammed's disgusting behaviour? Would you sleep with a 9 year old girl?

      LanfearM - 2012-09-19 14:01

      @ Faizal - you are lying and you know it. Besides, that age is the ONSET of puberty, NOT maturity. A girl who hasn't finished with puberty, is at high risk when she has sex and especially if she falls pregnant. It changes her hormonal levels, and so forth. Here is a 2009 study on Iranian girls that show the general age of puberty onset to be around 11 years old. And that is the ONSET of puberty, obviously you don't understand the biological difference, I suggest you read up on it sometime. http://www.wjpch.com/UploadFile/0902132.pdf Do you really think that a girl that just started with puberty, just started menstruating, is ready for a sexual relationship and marriage and even children? Really? So you will marry your nine year old daughter to a man if she has begun to menstruate? Why do you think there are laws in most countries in the world that prohibit sex before a certain age [usually between 12 and 16]? There are very good medical reasons for it. Where does the girl give her consent except in secular societies? In traditional Islamic societies, such as Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, etc. the girl is married off to the man chosen by her father, often against her will. What if a girl wants to study, have a career, decide for herself? Here in SA a Muslim can do so. In those Islamic countries I mentioned above it is far more difficult. Saudi women weren't even allowed to drive until last year, and then only after heavy protests.

      LanfearM - 2012-09-19 14:14

      @ Faizal - yes I do think that we are more moral than ever before. Just look at what you list as "immoral"! Being drunk, having a bastard. That tiny issues that have no place in a modern world! YOU don't drink because you are Islam, I am not Islam so I will drink if I choose. And who are you to judge "bastards"? Some of the most wonderful, kind and good people in the world were born out of wedlock! What a bigot you are! Yes, we are more moral. We care today about human rights, animal rights, the life of the planet. We are against abuse of women and children, we are against animal abuse, we are against rape and murder and slavery. We have laws against such actions. Freedom of choice, the right to education, to right to life, and so forth. All those things are NEW, only encoded in the last 100 years. Before that, well read some history then you will know how people acted before. But of course, all you care about is a "bastard" child and a drunk. Oh you can beat your wife, abuse your child, kick your dog and murder innocents with bombs, just so long as you are not drunk?! WTF? Another fact, there is more murder, rape, and atrocities than ever before because we are more humans, and we have an international media. Life in older times was worth nothing, today at least we care even if it is still worth nothing.

      CaptainGaza - 2012-09-19 14:21

      Oh My Faizal, and you believe what you're saying?? Where did you get this news from that girls of 6 to 8 are past puberty already???? Please tell me your source, I need to investigate this utter rubbish that they're feeding you. Surely you're not gullable enough to believe that nonsense??? It is a biological impossibility that girls 6 to 8 are past puberty and whoever tells you otherwise is lying to you. A girl that is 6 to 8 is still a child, do you think she has the knowledge and life experience to agree to a marriage and have consensual sex??? C'mon Faizal, surely you can't believe that. Now if you personally would not sleep with a 9 year old why do you think it was okay for Mohammed and not for you?

  • alex.nkosi.39 - 2012-09-19 11:36

    Pouring oil into fire won't help western capitalists and thieves, but only al qaeda terrorits to raise its flag by persuading many young muslims to enroll its ranks so as to defend islamic religion. Now look at how they are puting their people and interests in danger, by just provocating muslims around the world.leave them alone,otherwise suicide and explosions will be everywhere.... Look before reap....

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-09-19 14:37

      The film trailer was posted in July , since then it was promoted in the US tol little attention and interest unil it was picked up on by a contraversial egptian broadcaster who peddled it out with a arabic translation. Western capitalist thieves non-sense provoking the islamic world bollucks , they want to be offended and went out of their way to be offended .

  • Gill McCain - 2012-09-19 11:50

    Faisal - I don't ask u to believe in me, and morally I know that I do not need the laws of a disingenuous religion to tell me right from wrong. My morality comes from within, from the socialization I enjoyed as a free person in a respectful and respectable family, from an education in an educated society and from following the laws of the land. So try and insult me all you like but your ridiculous comment only underlines how far you are from being an independent thinker. Best go check with your Imam for a better response boy.

      LanfearM - 2012-09-19 13:00

      @ Faizal - please tell me why it is so difficult to understand the concept that if I mock your prophet/religion, then it doesn't lessen YOUR beliefs and faith? Are the faith of Muslims so weak that they must kill to prove they are "right"? How can an attack by a Christian on the actions of Muhammed be an attack on god, when you both worhship the same god? Of course morality comes from within. So the only thing that stops you raping and killing is the fear of hell and judgement? Our human nature is to be moral [and imperfect of course] for it is closely linked with the survival of the human specie. Good moral behaviour DOES have definitions in today's society. We are more moral then we ever used to be. For the first time in recorded history the following are considered wrong by most communities in the world: - slavery - oppression - bigotry - misogynism - abuse of animals - abuse of women - abuse of children and so forth. For the first time in recorded history humans are aware of and care about such atrocities. Have laws against such atrocities, etc. It seems to me that Muslims are just like Christians, the only "morality" you think matters is concerned with sex. You certainly don't seem to care about the murder of innocents, or abusing women and children, or having equal human rights for people. Or do you? And if you do, why then is nothing being done about the atrocities, murder and violence? No we will never reach "perfection" for what IS perfection really?

      bheki.moyo.39 - 2012-09-19 13:34

      Gill religion is older than you,older than your father and older than your great grandpa so don't in anyway sideline religion or God,s existence. You are playing with the fire,you will burn to ashes

      SarcasticAgnostic - 2012-09-19 14:02

      Bheki, prostitution is older than you,older than your father and older than your great grandpa so don't in anyway sideline prostitution or hornyness' existence. You are playing with the wages of poor women.

  • bheki.moyo.39 - 2012-09-19 13:38

    Yes we need freedom of speech but not in a way that will provoke other people,s beliefs its not good at all. The French government has to stop the publication of these alleged cartoons

      SarcasticAgnostic - 2012-09-19 14:05

      "Alleged cartoons" You clearly don't know what "alleged" means...

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-09-19 14:33

      Ban the cartoons then ban the religous texts , they are deeply offensive to non-believers , derogatroy ,inflamitory , incite violence and extremely provocative.

  • ziyaad.cajee.7 - 2012-09-19 16:00

    When you attack black people, They call it "Racism", When you attack Jewish people, They call it "Anti-semetism", When you attack Women, They call it "Gender discrimination", When you attack Homosexuality, They call it "Intolerance", When you attack your Country, They call it "Terrorism", When you attack a Religious sect, they call it "Hate speech", But when They attack at the dignity of our Beloved Prophet MUHAMMAD (Sallal laho Alaihi Wasallam) They call it " Freedom of Expression"

      LanfearM - 2012-09-19 16:36

      Well, we non-believers ridicule ALL religions. Where was Muhammad's "dignity" attacked?! He WAS a war leader, it says so in the qur'an. So he was NOT a peaceful man. His followers forced convertion to Islam in the middle-east with war and violence. We satirize Islam because of all the hate speech you guys preach around the world, all the time, while at the same time saying you are peaceful. "Kill the unbeliever". Rings a bell? Muhammad was not attacked. Black people, Jews, women, homosexuals, countries and all religions, are frequently satirized in cartoons, video clips, articles, comments. And you Islamics are the only ones that go around killing innocent people because of it. The rest of the people either complain, have it removed, or shrug it off and roll their eyes then continue with their lives. There is difference between taking the p*ss out of something and attacking it. If "attacking" a religious sect is called hate speech, well then all the comments here on N24 religious articles are hate speech. So when are the christians going to blow us up? You know when? Never. As I asked above in a comment, is the faith of Muslims so weak that they must kill innocent people to prove themselves "faithful"? The video clip is pathetic to be sure. But it is interesting to note that to protest against a film that shows Muhammad as a violent idiot, the Muslims of the world act like violent idiots to show it is not true. How is that for twisted logic?

      jaba.kov - 2012-09-20 07:57

      You were first to use black Africans as slaves. You call Jewish & Christians apes, dogs or Infidels. You treat women like 3rd class citizens. You claim you have no homosexuality in your creed, because when they are found out they are either ‘excommunicated’ or just killed. Not all Muslims are terrorists but by far most terrorists are Muslim. Lastly an attack in the form of a movie/cartoon about your Prophet is wrong and should be condemned by all, but to use violence to show your disaffection is wide of the mark. No one is perfect in this world – particularly those that place themselves on pedestals…

      joe.mase.7 - 2012-09-20 14:57

      @Jaba - After all your hate speech against Muslims and all your comments, I'm surprised that you still have not learned anything. Firstly, are you referring to the Arabs or are generalising that all Muslims used 'black Africans' as slaves. Let me remind you that the Arabs are the coloureds of the ME, i.e. half you and half African. Go and do some research before you accuse your cousins about slavery. Black African were used as slaves from the time of Moses and beyond. Arabs came about since Abraham walked around in ME and married an Abyssinian woman. (which you guys do not accept) Who is this 'you' you keep referring to, be specific, unlike your faith, the Muslims have people from all races belonging to there faith. Perhaps if you can clarify 'you' then maybe we can answer some of your comments. Are 'you' happy with that?

      joe.mase.7 - 2012-09-20 15:03

      @Lanfear - freedom of speech has responsibility attached to it. Freedom of speech does not give you the right to insult anyone. You may be an Atheist, that is your 'GOD' given right. The way I see it, Muslims have always been defensive, they act on provocation. How would you like it if I Say that your mother should have thrown you away when you were born and kept the afterbirth instead. If this is freedom of speech... then GOD help us. I think you have a big problem with Muslims and there Prophet, they gonna have the same problem with you, maybe you should focus on creating an atheist bible or something more constructive.

  • nicholas.breakey - 2012-09-19 21:49

    Print the cartoons let us hurry up and have this war I am impatient already just want to shoot some anti western fools Viva Israel U.S.A and freedom

      joe.mase.7 - 2012-09-20 15:25

      be careful what you wish for

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