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Marines charged with urinating on Taliban dead

2012-09-24 22:43

Washington - Two US Marines have been referred to trial by courts martial on Friday for urinating on the bodies of Taliban dead in Afghanistan and posing for photographs with them, the Pentagon said.

The charges against staff sergeants Joseph Chamblin and Edward Deptola come a month after three other Marines were sanctioned administratively for their role in the 27 July 2011 incident in Afghanistan's Helmand province.

A videotape that surfaced on the internet in January showed four US troops urinating on three bloodied corpses, and one of the men, apparently aware he was being filmed, saying: "Have a great day, buddy," referring to one of the dead.

The Pentagon said charges against the sergeants alleged "violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice for their involvement in urinating on deceased Taliban fighters and for posing for unofficial photographs with human casualties".

They were also charged with dereliction of duty for a number of other command failures involving younger Marines.

The decision to refer the sergeants for trial comes in the midst of a wave of violent anti-American protests in the Muslim world over a US-made film that ridicules the Prophet Muhammad.

Comments
  • hash.jadawat - 2012-09-24 23:07

    watch a light sentence or a slap on the wrist then again its the U.S.they sh*t scared when they get caught...

      erich.goosen - 2012-09-25 09:27

      Totally unacceptable for soldiers to urinate in public.

  • husaberg.twostroke - 2012-09-24 23:08

    Dont get me wrong I love the US. BUT THIS DIGUSTING BEHAVIOUR from our own troops. Terrible thats all I can say.

      roger.kaputnick.90 - 2012-09-25 03:07

      When you gotta go you gotta go!

      merven.halo - 2012-09-25 07:38

      I also can not understand why they would do something like this, their poor buddies working at the morgue must still work with those pizz stinking bodies. Dudes, think of your fellow soldiers.

  • muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-24 23:29

    This was an act of savagery!! Let them be taken care of

      roger.kaputnick.90 - 2012-09-25 03:13

      No Mohammed that's not savagery, what they did to the US ambassador is savagery. Soldiers relieve battle tension in strange ways. It should be noted that the Taliban don't fight in uniforms so it makes it harder to figure out who the enemy are. If the Germans did this in WW 2 they would be immediately shot as spies. Pissing on them is just a way of saying "you enemy earn no respect ...piss on you!".

      jaba.kov - 2012-09-25 05:42

      28000 thousands dead Muslims, killed by Muslims in Syria in the last few months - and all Muhammed focuses on is this! And if it’s not this, it’s either a cartoon or a movie that drives the Muslims round the bend. Get your priorities right. Religion of peace? Please supply proof

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 06:10

      First of all the assad who assaulted Muslims is doing it in the name of himself and not Islam. So it doesn't mean that the religion is at fault. The cartoons and video is an insult. look at what khalid baig had to say:\To see that let us imagine a society that truly believes in the first as a cherished moral value. It celebrates freedom to insult and guards it at all costs. Every member of it enjoys this freedom and practices it regularly. In a business everyone insults everyone else. The boss is insulting the employees, the employees are insulting the bosses. The salesmen are insulting the customers. The accountants are insulting the creditors. Everyone is enjoying the great freedom to insult. The same is true of the home. The parents are always insulting the children. The children are constantly insulting the parents. The spouses are incessantly insulting each other. And in doing so they all stand on the high moral ground because freedom to insult is such a fundamental freedom on which the society is built.\\r\n\r\nNow the difference between your religions, if u have one, and Islam is that we know the truthfulness of Islam without doubt. And it is a command from God himself to protect the sanctities of the religion. Just as u protect ur right to insult religious figures.

      merven.halo - 2012-09-25 07:40

      @muhammed, the difference is, we don't kill other people that doesn't agree with us.

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 07:50

      So are u saying if I call ur mother a whore and ur father sick pheodofile u then don't have a right to react to me violently. Even if u say u wouldn't react violently, its not the truth. Be impartial please. We love the messenger of Allah Muhammad saw more than our parents. We oppose our parents to uphold his laws. If someone insults, especially in such a way, ur loved one the result will be violent.

      Desilusionada - 2012-09-25 08:46

      "If someone insults, especially in such a way, ur loved one the result will be violent." - Your quote. So perhaps the taliban et al should understand this. Keep on insulting the USA and the result will be violent. As for killing 1 000 000 children. Go talk rubbish somewhere else. If the USA were killing people at the rate you and your ilk are claiming, then I wonder how many are left? You know the logistics, never mind the money involved, just to bury them? The mind boggles that a country will spend Billions to develop technology that limits collateral damage against an 'enemy' who could not care who, (woman, children, fellow believers, innocent bystanders), they kill and how. But that is democracy, something alien to the ME. In fact reading the news and comments over the past weeks, it is clear that there is no difference between muslims like you and the current SA government. Both blame other parties for their failures Both blame the past for their failures and use this to justify their future mistakes Both blame seek reasons why things cannot be done, instead of doing it Both talk all the nice words and then afterwards go and do the opposite Both are not interested in their fellow human beings Sadly both use the same convoluted logic that will turn any given into what they want reality to look like. (e.g. Taliban videoing be-headings to prevent USA soldiers being killed.) Maybe, just maybe, these soldiers were tired of seeing senseless killings everyday........

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 09:36

      U say that taliban has insulted the US verbally? And was it in the same manner as that person did to Muhammad (saw). Bring ur proof u are truthful. The continued sanctions imposed by the US on Iraq in the 90s killed 1 million children. If u don't believe me, the as professor google. And worse yet it was justified. Now I'm not justifying killing non combatants on any side. What I'm saying is that on the one hand u hand \terrorists\ killing some thousands of civilians. And on the other hand the \freedom fighters\ having killed millions. Be just.

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 09:44

      Now in order to understand people's world view, u need to understand where they are coming from. And Muslims follow the quran (the last revelation of almighty God) and the sunnah (the way of Muhammad (saw). We believe that if we follow these sources of revelation then we follow Gods knowledge. That's why we pray, fast, give alms and do jihad. So the major question comes down to whether the quran is from God or not. If it is from god and God is the most knowledgeable and the most wise and also the creator, then surely he knows his creation best and surely whatever he says must be followed. If u wanna know more about the quran go to onereason.org

      Desilusionada - 2012-09-25 11:45

      No the taliban did not insult the US verbally. They flew into some buildings somewhere I seem to remember. The sanction that killed these 1 000 000 children. They were twins right? The sanctions imposed were because Iraq invaded Kuwait! The sanctions were imposed by the UN not the US!! One of the items banned was chlorine, which can be used to make gas to kill people. Like Hussein has already proved to do at that stage. (Go ask prof google) So the US were bound by a UN resolution to NOT make money out of selling a substance to Hussein. For any further references, read my earlier post, the last 7 sentences. I rest my case. Goodbye....

  • Savethe White O - 2012-09-24 23:34

    And what do you think the taliban does to the us soldiers its war sh-t happens.

  • www.hephzibah.wapsite.me - 2012-09-25 02:39

    If you have'nt been to war please don't comment.You're out of your league.I've been to war in the early 80's and it can drive you bonkers.Just picking up pieces of bodies and putting the pieces into bodybags is one example.Just think on that!

  • Khetha Hlophe - 2012-09-25 04:28

    I dont sêé anything bad about it if that was an enemy

  • whites.mustunite - 2012-09-25 05:57

    What's wrong with urinating on murderous savage terrorists?

      brendon.nel.7 - 2012-09-25 06:21

      Are u for real. U disgust me. I'm sure ur mother would be so proud.

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 06:41

      Not long ago Nelson Mandela was considered a terrorist. So if u would use the same logic as u are using now, if he were killed it would be right to urinate on his dead corpse. And if I consider u a terrorist then I should urinate on u too??

      kaapse.skollie.7 - 2012-09-25 07:42

      The Marines or the Taliban?

  • muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 06:01

    What's with the double standards?? As if the taliban don't deserve human rights. As if the US has not killed more civilians in Iraq than any the taliban. THEY KILLED 1 MILLION CHILDREN AND THEY JUSTIFIED IT!! Wake up! Come to the real world! Hillary Albright said that they found it necessary to kill a million children!! What savages! They are un civilised people living in shiny houses.

      merven.halo - 2012-09-25 07:43

      "THEY KILLED 1 MILLION CHILDREN AND THEY JUSTIFIED IT!!" Any proof? Or are you just lying for prophet Muhammed?

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 07:52

      Ask professor google

  • bevan.carpenter.1 - 2012-09-25 07:35

    i suppose beheading an American hostage is acceptable though?

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 07:44

      I suppose indiscriminate arrest. Targeting females involved in the \terrorist\ activity of. Collecting wood in Afghanistan. Water boarding and other torture, being detained in solitary confinement for an undisclosed period is even better!

  • kaapse.skollie.7 - 2012-09-25 07:43

    Nice one, Marines. Real classy.

  • tashina.rahman - 2012-09-25 07:43

    here the main thing is not US marines urinating on Taliban /afghanis. . . Its the fact that these animals have no respect for the dead. . . Funny how alot of you speak without understanding anything. Hope they burn in hell and all of you that dont see this incident as something horrific, may the Almighty guide you all in the right path!

      craig.s.pepper - 2012-09-25 08:06

      Got your Rabies shot yet? Sort out your own Fanatical islamic Rabid dogs that that crap on their/ your religion by their murderous actions. No one is innocent in this case, but don't put pissing on some dead scumbags with slitting peoples throats while tied up or kill innocent people for videos/cartoons that they had nothing to do with.

      richard.bosmano - 2012-09-25 08:13

      The lady with the muslim name gets to decide who the animals in this conflict are? As for "hell",we who are going there will at least have every muslim ever born as company.Do you think hitler or ghengis khan sit next to satan and muhamed?

      roger.kaputnick.90 - 2012-09-25 18:05

      Aaah hell...thats where all you murderous muslims are headed.

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-09-25 07:55

    Talibans are excruciatingly barbaric species they deserved more than that.Bravo Marine,And set them free with immediate effect.

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 08:01

      You are not basing any of this on any higher moral values. Its just a tit for tat. And the punishment in this case does not fit the crime. This is barbaric. If u consider taliban to be at fault, then according to ur standards they must be handled according to ur moral standards. Does this fall in that category. Simply, no.

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 08:09

      \barbaric species\?? Are u even living in the 21st century?? Who talks like that? Like u are dealing with outer space aliens or sub-human species. Why don't you take off ur CCN, BBC, and sky news goggles for once and look what the other side has to say? Or are u afraid they might be right??

      Harold Chisimba - 2012-09-25 08:12

      Muhamad-Is it not you who said that film maker must die just because of blasphemy? So whats wrong with kilings of these moronic savages? Yet they have exterminated thousands of innocent civilians

      Harold Chisimba - 2012-09-25 08:27

      Muhamad-Wo wo wo calm down! Iperceive why you are babyshly sobbing...,Is it because they are Moslems ? Oo no Its atotal stupidity to support brutality just because you are in tie same religion with those parasites.Irespect Islam but am Christian,.And Idon't defend christians who have offended just because we share same religion,It can be injustice and imbecillity.

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 08:30

      The difference is I am not being hypocritical, like you, by going away from my standard which I use to judge between right and wrong. I am open about following the shari'ah and I don't hide it. And besides what does killing taliban have to do with urinating on Their corpses? This is not what YOUR international human rights stand for! That's why I say u don't follow ur higher moral standing. It changes when u feel like it.

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 08:34

      Please read what I said carefully. I did not support every act of taliban, although I do believe their cause is just. Nowhere did I make such a claim. I said try to find out what their perspective on things are before u degrade them as another species as u have.

      Harold Chisimba - 2012-09-25 08:43

      If you killed that film maker somehow it could logical because its the who did it.But why stupidly killing other more 50 people, Including that ambassador in Libya? If your religion is about killing other people uu hm. . . .its not spick-and-span its full of hypocricy,barbarity and intolerance

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 08:51

      On the day the ambassador was killed, a planned attack was carried out. Now whoever did it they had reasons besides the film which caused them to attack. Since it was long before planned and the movie came out the same day as the attack. Now putting that aside, do u believe that if I call ur mother a whore that u have a right to respond to that insult violently? You would obviously agree. And they have insulted someone more beloved to us than our parents. Now many scholars have advised the Muslims not to be violent except to the perpetrators. So there is an outcry from scholars in the Muslim community to stop the violence against other than the perpetrators.

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 09:10

      As for saying that Muslims just kill people. Then this is out of Islam. Since in jihad there are 3 types opinion, funding and military engagement. As for opinion, it is diproving falsehood and raising the truth, which is Islam and also calling and encouraging Muslims to jihad. As for funding then it means whatever Makes Islam strong and it includes military funding. And as for military engagement then that is specified to combatants I.e soldiers.

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 09:15

      As for Al-qaeda then they have taken the verse of God \whoever transgresses against yyou (all) then transgress against him in the same manner he has transgressed against you.\ so bevause the US has killed a million children in Iraq and countless other Muslim non combatants elsewhere they feel that they need to meet the Americans with the same methods as they themselves use. With this said I do not agree with this opinion. And I do believe that Muslims should only engage combatants regardless of what They do to the Muslims.

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 09:21

      We can all have strong logical arguements. However what u need to ask youself is, what makes someone who is comfortable in Germany or Britain leave his home to terrible conditions in a place like Afghanistan to fight for Islam? Everyone can have a logical argument but us the Muslims leave it to the highest Power with the greatest knowledge and wisdom. So the only question which remains is: is the quran from God or not? If it is then we should follow his knowledge since he knows us better because he is the creator.

      muhammad.mokoena - 2012-09-25 09:21

      We can all have strong logical arguements. However what u need to ask youself is, what makes someone who is comfortable in Germany or Britain leave his home to terrible conditions in a place like Afghanistan to fight for Islam? Everyone can have a logical argument but us the Muslims leave it to the highest Power with the greatest knowledge and wisdom. So the only question which remains is: is the quran from God or not? If it is then we should follow his knowledge since he knows us better because he is the creator.

  • Raymon - 2012-09-25 11:42

    What's the big deal? These terrorists hide behind women and children. They target civilians... I don't give a rats a$$ what is done to their dead bodies. Douse them in pigs blood and send them to hell.

      erich.goosen - 2012-09-25 12:14

      I think it would be a good thing if the Marines get hold of muhammed.mokoena. Urinating on him only will not be sufficient.

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