Nato dismisses Gaddafi ceasefire offer

2011-04-30 13:05

Brussels - Nato says it wants Muammar Gaddafii's forces to end their attacks on civilians before it considers the Libyan leader's ceasefire offer.

A Nato official said on Saturday that the alliance wants to "to see not words, but actions".

Gaddafi called for a ceasefire and negotiations with Nato powers in a live speech on state TV earlier on Saturday, saying "the door to peace is open".

But the Nato official said Gaddafi's regime has announced ceasefires several times before and continued attacking cities and civilians.

The official, who could not be identified in line with standing regulations, said just hours before Gaddafi proposed the truce, his forces indiscriminately shelled the besieged port city of Misrata, Libya, killing several people.

"All this has to stop, and it has to stop now," the Nato official said, adding that a ceasefire must be "credible and verifiable".

  • Gatvol - 2011-04-30 13:28

    Good one Nato

      kandi tantrum - 2011-05-06 15:49

      People killing Libyan Civilians are NATO and Rebels, deceiving feeble minded like GatVol and other blood and oil thirsty monsters. Libyan government want support from people, how can you kill the support you want.

  • Martin du Plessis - 2011-04-30 13:49

    I don't think Gadaffi has any more control over the troops fighting for him anymore. I don't think he can ENFORCE a ceasefire on them, they may be too bloodthirsty right now to WANT to stop.

      slg - 2011-04-30 15:55

      His seven sons are in charge of key parts of the military. He and they are issuing the orders.

  • trunkbutt - 2011-04-30 14:00

    Colonel Muammar Gadaffi is frequently referred to in the media as a "mad dictator" and "bloody tyrant", but do these allegations accord with the facts? Libya consists of over 15O tribes, with the two main groups, the Meghabra living in Tripolitania in the west and the Wafallah living in Cyrenaica in the east. Previous attempts to unite these tribes by the Turkish (1855-1911) and ltalian {1911-43) colonial rulers failed and the country was split in two for administrative purposes. Oil was discovered in Libya in 1959, but King ldris of the Senussi tribe allowed most of the oil profits to be siphoned into the coffers of the oil companies. The coup d'etat on 1 September 1969 led by Colonel Gadaffi had countrywide support. He subsequently married a woman from the royal Barqa tribe and adroitly unified the nation. By retaining Libya's oil wealth for the benefit of all its people, Gadaffi had created a socialist paradise. There is no unemployment, Libya has the highest GDP in .Africa, less than 5% of the population is classified as poor and it has fewer people living below the poverty datum line than for example in Holland. Life expectancy is 75 years and is the highest in Africa and I0% above the world average. With the exception of the nomadic Bedouin and Tuareg tribes, most Libyan families possess a house and a car. There is free health care and education and not surprisingly Libya has a literacy rate of 82%. Last year Gadaffi distributed $500 to each man, woman and child (population 6.5 million). Libya has a tolerable human rights record and stands at 61 on the International Incarceration Index, comparable with countries in central Europe (the lower the rating, the lower the standing - the USA occupies the no.1 spot!). There is hardly any crime and only rebels and traitors are dealt with harshly. Anyone who has read Gadaffi's little Green Book will realize that he is a thoughtful and enlightened leader. Libya has been accused of having committed numerous acts of terrorism in the past, but many of these have been perpetrated by foreign intelligence agencies as false flag operations - the Lockerbie bombing being a prime example. The CIA and MI6 and their frontmen have been stoking up dissent in the east of the country for almost 30 years. Libya produces exceptionally high quality light crude oil and its production cost of $1 a barrel, compared to the current price of $115, is the lowest in the world. Riba (usury) is not permitted. The Central bank of Libya is a wholly-owned by the Libyan Government and is run as a state bank, issuing all government loans free of interest. This is in contrast to the exploitative fractional reserve banking system of the West. The no-fly zone and the bombing of Libya have nothing to do with the protection of civilians. It is an act of war a blatant and crude attempt by the oil corporations and international bankers to steal the wealth of Libya.

      Rijger - 2011-04-30 14:36

      @ Trunkbutt, thanks for a highly informative piece of reading on Libya and their leader, Muammar Ghadaffi. Fact is, everybody thought that the "lighltly armed" rebels, with the help of Nato and the US, would have overrun the Libyan army a long time ago. That never happened, I doubt whether it ever will. This whole exercise is about one thing and one thing only, get rid of Ghadaffi and through that, get control over Libya's oil, nothing more, nothing less.

      slg - 2011-04-30 16:01

      The same articles were written about the Soviet Union, Cuba and every socialist country of note. It's propaganda. You're delusional if you believe it. Rijger, your simple analysis is plain wrong. This is not about oil. It's about supporting the sweeping changes started by the people of the Middle East towards democracy that tyrannical leaders in the region are trying to crush. Libya produces just 2% of the world's oil. You should be supporting it wholeheartedly.

      Rijger - 2011-04-30 19:40

      @ SLG, just 2% of the world's oil is a heck of a lot of oil in anybody's language. I support capitalism wholeheartedly, does not hold Muammar Ghaddaffi in high esteem, although I must say that measured against the crap that we have in SA as leaders in the ruling party, he is a shining star. Point is, what is so special about Libya that Nato and the US had to intervene to stop the killing of "civilians"? Why did they not intervene in say Zimbabwe or the Ivory Coast? Apart from that, there have been a lot of conflicting media releases by same US and Nato about what their aims really are, to say the least. No, Slg, if you think I'm wrong and need to change my viewpoint, convince me. Put facts on the table and we can debate about it and see where it leads to, maybe we will both walk away with a better understanding about the problems faced by Libyans

      slg - 2011-04-30 20:32

      2% is 2%, a tiny fraction. If we let the likes of Gadhafi succeed in crushing the once peaceful demands for democracy, the sweeping changes taking place towards greater freedom and democracy in the Middle East would be endangered. This region has been stuck in the darkest of chauvinism and tyranny for a long, long time. We cannot and should noted it falter to the likes of child-tyrant Gadhafi, Asad and others.

      Rijger - 2011-04-30 21:47

      Slg, that 2% of oil is enough to drive a country. More importantly, you do not put any facts on the table, nor have you answered any questions that I posed to you. Instead you answer like an activist, with rhetoric. "We" must not allow this or "we" must not allow that. Shouldn't "we" rather focus on more pressing items closer to home? For instance where a 45 year old women went to the police for help and got killed in cold blood for her efforts? Or what about the high rape incidence, coupled with extreme violence and torture? Maybe the high murder rate? What about aw heck, the list is endless, but maybe, just maybe if you put the same amount of zeal into fighting all this problems at home, we might get to the point where we actually can criticizeothers and lead by example.

      slg - 2011-04-30 23:17

      Move to Tripoli and experience Gadhafi's rule for yourself. Spend a good amount of time there. Then do a tour through Damascus for a year or two, and stop in to Zimbabwe as well, on the way home. Take your family, if you have one, the women especially. They will give you plenty of information about what it's like to live under such chauvinism and tyranny. Or, just open your eyes, take the blinkers off, and read what is really happening here. It's all in front of you. You're being stubborn, blocking out valuable information to be right, superior. These wonderful events being driven by the new generation of the Middle East, who have had enough of thousands of years of oppressive, tyrannical rule, are passing you by.

      Rijger - 2011-05-01 08:44

      Slg, I take it that you have been living in Tripoli and can therefore speak of firsthand experience? Bear in mind that at the moment, the debate is about Libya, not the rest of the middle east. My friend, I am always open to a debate and if proven wrong, will accept it and change my viewpoint, for that is life. However, to do that, I need verifiable facts, which you fail to provide.

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