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Norway mass killer: I'm not insane

2011-12-03 20:50

Oslo - The confessed killer behind the July massacre in Norway disputes an expert conclusion that he is criminally insane, a newspaper reported on Saturday, quoting one of his lawyers.

"We have examined a good part of the report that details the conversations he had with the psychologists," Odd Ivar Groen told the daily Verdens Gang.

Anders Behring Breivik, 32, "reacted by saying that it contained factual errors (and) lies and that his statements were taken out of context," Groen was quoted as saying.

Prosecutors last Tuesday declared the right-wing extremist criminally insane when he killed 77 people on July 22 after two psychiatrists who examined him concluded that he suffered from paranoid schizophrenia.

The lawyer said he spent six hours discussing the 243-page report with Behring Breivik.

"He thinks they considered some of his statements bizarre that he didn't think were bizarre. And he does not share their judgement that he is mentally ill," Groen said.

Sentenced to psychiatric care

"He is concerned over the fact that these experts do not have enough knowledge of political ideologies," Groen told the paper.

By removing Behring Breivik's criminal responsibility, the diagnosis will probably see him sentenced to receive psychiatric care in a closed institution - possibly for the rest of his life - instead of prison, and has divided opinion in Norway.

The report by psychiatrists Synne Serheim and Torgeir Husby has still to be reviewed by a panel of experts to ensure that it conforms with professional standards.

Behring Breivik's trial is set to open April 16 and is expected to last around 10 weeks.

In the attacks, Behring Breivik first set off a car bomb outside government buildings in Oslo, killing eight people, before going on a shooting rampage on the nearby island of Utoeya.

For nearly an hour and a half, he methodically gunned down another 69 people, most of them teenagers attending a summer camp of the ruling Labour Party youth organisation.

Behring Breivik, an Islamaphobe, accused the party of promoting the multicultural society he despises.

Comments
  • Cracker - 2011-12-03 21:04

    I am obliged then to inform you with much sorrow that the rest of us do take take note and are the actual insane ones and as such do apologize to you for ever having thought the opposite. Sorry, man, that the rest of us can even contemplate to communicate with someone so sane and balanced like you. But we, the rest of humanity, do still think you did something wrong. Ooops! My and the rest of humanity's apology for such an insane thought.

      Donovan - 2011-12-04 02:07

      Remember Joseph Heller's Catch-22? Only an insane man would claim to be sane. A sane man would claim to be insane. Or, verbatim for those who don't know it: "You're wasting your time," Doc Daneeka was forced to tell him. "Can't you ground someone's who's crazy?" "Oh sure, I have to. There's a rule saying I have to ground anyone who's crazy." "Then why don't you ground me. Ask Clevinger." "Clevinger? Where is Clevinger? You find Clevinger and I'll ask him." "Then ask any of the others. They'll tell you how crazy I am." "They're crazy." "Then why don't you ground them?" "Why don't they ask me to ground them?" "Because they're crazy, that's why." "Of course they're crazy," Doc Daneeka replied. "I just told you they're crazy didn't I? And you can't let crazy people decide whether you're crazy or not can you?"

  • Burtfred - 2011-12-03 21:05

    I don't think he's nuts. He acted out what many millions of people feel - rightly or wrongly. There is no excuse foe killing people on the basis of political belief, ever. ANC, PAC, FF+, Al Quaeda, Nats, Al Shabaab, whoever, whatever, are you listening?

      SeeVeeDeeEl - 2011-12-03 21:51

      Why bring FF+ into it? Unlike the others you mention, they were never involved in any killings.

  • Ian - 2011-12-03 21:10

    just throw it in the nuthouse and throw away the key

  • Shoe - 2011-12-03 21:26

    Sure you are not, by your own definition. But the rest of us 'sane' people see things differently. Thats the irony of sanity.

  • Jim - 2011-12-03 21:30

    Well then, heck, I guess we'll just have to accept Anders Breivik's word- for-it, that he's not insane. Well, what the heck, why not? After all, he certainly knows his little universe, better than the rest of us...

  • emile.eley - 2011-12-03 21:38

    You know what's truly crazy? That Breivik's views are often echoed on these pages. Nuts.

  • harley1 - 2011-12-03 21:49

    kill the does if it was one of my children i would get him no matter what the cost !!

  • Ry Short - 2011-12-03 22:37

    From a psychological standpoint, one must agree with him. For the psychiatrist to accurately diagnose him, the psychiatrist has to, by all lengths and means, immerse himself in the world of the person they wish to diagnose. Clearly this man is not stupid, he seems to know what he's doing and he seems to be, in some regards, educated therefore to go and dismiss what he has to say without considering it and practising within the relevant psychological framework is not only wrong and myopic but it is borderline negligent..much more than you'd expect from so-called "experts", from those who control his fate. There should be a team/panel of professionals to assess this man, it's only fair.

      Lara - 2011-12-04 08:23

      My fear is that this will again stigmatize people suffering from mental illnesses, who could be treated with proper medication.

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-03 23:06

    Breivik's act must be condemned with comptept it deserves. What amaze are the comments of some other people who don't spare racial slur even where it's not necessary. How do you compare Breivik's massacre with ANC, PAC, Al Qaeda etc? How are Breivik and ANC related? Breivik is an individual whose views are much more informed by Islamophobia and the latter by political inequalities. No matter how you may despise certain race, you must learn to exercise restraint on your comments. The comparision is as bad as ANC blaming apartheid for current service delivery shortfall. There is a lot of personal attacks than subject.

      Cracker - 2011-12-03 23:51

      Please count again. How many racial slurs are there really?

      Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-04 03:19

      Read reply on Burtfred's comment.

      Barefoot - 2011-12-04 08:16

      i just gave up really these comment sections are full of racists. they can turn the simplest matter into a racial one so quickly u'd be amazed. seriously y would u hate a race of people? i get hating one person but millions of people who haven't even met u?

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