Pastor reconsiders Qu'ran-burning

2010-09-10 10:00

Gainesville - An anti-Islamic preacher backed off and then threatened to reconsider burning the Qu’ran on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, angrily accusing a Muslim leader of lying to him on Thursday with a promise to move an Islamic centre and mosque away from New York's Ground Zero.

The imam planning the centre denied there was ever such a deal.

The Reverend Terry Jones generated an international firestorm with his plan to burn the Qu’ran on Saturday, the ninth anniversary of the September 11 2001, terrorist attacks, and he has been under intense pressure to give it up.

President Barack Obama urged him to listen to "those better angels" and give up his "stunt", saying it would endanger US troops and give Islamic terrorists a recruiting tool.

Defence Secretary Robert Gates took the extraordinary step of calling Jones personally.

Standing outside his 50-member Pentecostal church, the Dove Outreach Centre, alongside Imam Muhammad Musri, the president of the Islamic Society of Central Florida, Jones said he relented when Musri assured him that the New York mosque will be moved.

‘Burning not cancelled’

Hours later, after Musri and the leader of the New York mosque denied such an agreement, Jones said Musri "clearly, clearly lied to us".

"Given what we are now hearing, we are forced to rethink our decision," Jones said. "So as of right now, we are not cancelling the event, but we are suspending it."

Jones did not say whether the Qu’ran burning could still be held on Saturday, but he said he expected Musri to keep his word and expected "the imam in New York to back up one of his own men".

Jones had never invoked the mosque controversy as a reason for his planned protest.

He cited his belief that the Qu’ran is evil because it espouses something other than biblical truth and incites radical, violent behaviour among Muslims.

But he said on Thursday afternoon that he prayed about the decision and concluded that if the mosque was moved, it would be a sign from God to call off the Qu’ran burning.

"We are, of course, now against any other group burning Qu’rans," Jones said. "We would right now ask no one to burn Qurans. We are absolutely strong on that. It is not the time to do it."

No deal made

Musri thanked Jones and his church members "for making the decision today to defuse the situation and bring to a positive end what has become the world over a spectacle that no one would benefit from except extremists and terrorists" who would use it to recruit future radicals.

After the news conference, however, Musri told The Associated Press there is no deal to move the mosque.

He said there was only an agreement for him and Jones to travel to New York and meet on Saturday with the imam overseeing plans to build a mosque near Ground Zero.

"I told the pastor that I personally believe the mosque should not be there, and I will do everything in my power to make sure it is moved," Musri said.

"But there is not any offer from there (New York) that it will be moved. All we have agreed to is a meeting, and I think we would all like to see a peaceful resolution."

Musri did not immediately return a phone message seeking comment Thursday night after Jones accused him of lying.

‘No bartering for religion’

In New York, the leader of the Islamic centre project, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, issued a statement saying he was glad Jones had decided not to burn the Qu’ran but that he had spoken to neither the pastor nor Musri.

"We are not going to toy with our religion or any other. Nor are we going to barter," Rauf said. "We are here to extend our hands to build peace and harmony."

Jones' decision to call off the Qu’ran burning was made after a firestorm of criticism from leaders around the world. The pope and several other Christian leaders were among those urging him to reconsider his plans, which generated a wave of anger among Muslims.

In Afghanistan, hundreds of Afghans burned an American flag and chanted "Death to the Christians" to protest the planned Qu’ran burning.

Obama told ABC's Good Morning America in an interview aired on Thursday that Jones' plan "is completely contrary to our values as Americans".

"And as a very practical matter, I just want him to understand that this stunt that he is talking about pulling could greatly endanger our young men and women who are in uniform," Obama said.

Pentagon spokesperson Geoff Morrell confirmed that Gates called Jones on Thursday afternoon - shortly before the pastor's announcement.

During the "very brief" call, Gates expressed "his grave concern that going forward with this Qu’ran-burning would put the lives of our forces at risk, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan," Morrell said.

Morrell said earlier that the decision to issue a personal appeal was not easy because it could provoke other extremists "who, all they want, is a call from so-and-so".

After Gates' call to Jones, Morrell said the secretary's "fundamental baseline attitude about this is that if that phone call could save the life of one man or woman in uniform it was a call worth placing".

Husain Haqqani, Pakistan's ambassador to the US, thanked Obama, Gates and other administration officials for their efforts.

"This is definitely a positive moment in showing America's tolerance and pluralism and should not go unappreciated in the Muslim world," Haqqani said.

Religious diversity

The cancellation also was welcomed by Jones' neighbours in Gainesville, a city of 125 000 anchored by the sprawling University of Florida campus.

At least two dozen Christian churches, Jewish temples and Muslim organisations in the city had mobilised to plan inclusive events, including Qu’ran readings at services, as a counterpoint to Jones' protest.

Jones' Dove Outreach Centre is independent of any denomination. It follows the Pentecostal tradition, which teaches that the Holy Spirit can manifest itself in the modern day.

Pentecostals often view themselves as engaged in spiritual warfare against satanic forces.

The pastor was not the only person to inject confusion into the debate over the New York mosque, which is planned to go up two blocks north of the trade centre site.

Donald Trump, who made a fortune in real estate, offered on Thursday to buy out a major investor in the real estate partnership that controls the site where the 13-story Islamic centre would be built.

Opponents argue it is insensitive to families and memories of 9/11 victims to build a mosque so close to where Islamic extremists flew planes into the World Trade Center and killed nearly 2 800 people.

9/11 mosque

Proponents support the project as a reflection of religious freedom and diversity and say hatred of Muslims is fuelling the opposition.

In a letter released on Thursday by Trump's publicist, Trump told Hisham Elzanaty that he would buy his stake in one of the two lower Manhattan buildings involved in the project for 25% more than whatever he paid - if the mosque is moved at least five blocks farther away from Ground Zero.

"I am making this offer as a resident of New York and citizen of the United States, not because I think the location is a spectacular one (because it is not), but because it will end a very serious, inflammatory, and highly divisive situation that is destined, in my opinion, to only get worse," the letter said.

Elzanaty's response: No sale.

"This is just a cheap attempt to get publicity and get in the limelight," said his lawyer, Wolodymyr Starosolsky.

He added that the offer's lack of seriousness is evident in the price.

The group collectively paid $4.8m for the building Trump offered to buy. The other is being leased.
Starosolsky said the real estate partnership had already received two offers in the ballpark of $20m.

"He knows what the value of the building is. If he were really interested in buying the building, he would have come forward with at least $20m," Starosolsky said.

Starosolsky added that Elzanaty remains committed to the idea of having a mosque built on at least part of the property.

  • DB - 2010-09-10 10:14

    This Rev. Terry Jones is no better than the radical Muslims he condemns. They should rather burn him.

  • o'lord - 2010-09-10 10:32

    And i still fail to see the benefits of any religion. Just a bunch of angry, self-righteous extremist little kids. If you want to pray, pray. But this constant mud slinging and hate towards the wrong-believers and the non-believers is just not what it should be about. Makes me proud to be a human that can make my own choices on spirituality. Not just a brainwashed, hate filled follower of some mystical, once-in-2000-years deity.

  • BP - 2010-09-10 10:37

    This Rev is a fool,he is enciting a whole lot of radicals again to get mobilised.He will be the one to burn.IDIOT.

  • JaY - 2010-09-10 10:37

    This is big #$^%$ joke! Clearly a religious war is on the agenda here, the Media and US government provoking the Middle east to aggravate more attacks from "terrorists". It's as clear as day...The media is a propaganda tool and a weapon of war!

  • Goofy - 2010-09-10 10:52

    You know, I am not religious at all but I think this pastor should go look closer at the Bible. I am pretty sure that it says somewhere in there love thy enemies, and to pray for them etc. His ignorances of the consequences clearly shows that he is not wise. I hope he comes to his senses...

  • Cygnus X1 @ JaY - 2010-09-10 11:15

    And you can privide irrefutable proof of this? Please post it on here before Saturday 11th or shut you propaganda mouth!

  • Interested - 2010-09-10 11:16

    There is nothing Christian about this man. He is mentally and emtionally damaged by even entertaining this thought. And Goofy you are right the Bible does say love your neighbour as yourself.

  • Grant - 2010-09-10 11:31

    Lock the useless A--hole up and throw the keys away he's a danger to society

  • Goforit - 2010-09-10 11:32

    I support him. Everything gets done to support the muslim, what about the painting (done by a muslim) of the cross in a cup of urine - nothing was done about it. The minute something is against the muslims then all hell breaks loose. They can build mosques wherever they want. Their plan is to conquer the world as they want to rule the world thru islam. Viva Jones Viva

  • sis - 2010-09-10 11:36

    We live in SA. It has nothing to do with us. As far as i am concerned. Let the two birds kill each other with one stone. Let the Pastor burns his book, making the muslims angry and they end up suidide bombing themselves and the pastor up. Win win for the rest of us who dont give a damn about you crazy religious nut jobs. I would never support burning anyones bible. @o'lord i agree!

  • Jesus - 2010-09-10 11:46

    Swordsman, your post is one of the most despicable and racist drivel that I've seen in the last 2010 years. Please do not invoke my name when you make these comments. My message has always been one of tolerance and love. Peace be with you.

  • NotJesus - 2010-09-10 11:53

    Pretending to be Jesus? Class...

  • Eish - 2010-09-10 11:53

    As a born again believer I believe that the pastor from this small church is an idiot, because by burning their Koran you do not change their hearts. One of the hallmarks of the Christian faith is that you have freedom of religion and while you may disagree, you do not coerce anybody into believing what you do. While saying that i am saddened at the world wide response of the Muslim world because of a 30 member church and their activities. By no means do they represent the west, Christianity or anything else but their own views regarding people of other faith. However there is a major beam that the Islamic world must take out of their own eyes. They threaten war and the destruction of America on the basis of the action of an idiotic pastor and his small flock, but just the other day Morocco kicked out Christian believers out of their country for no crime committed but being a Christian. Should the rest of the world then not have the right to rise up against them? What about Saudi Arabia, Iran etc. where their people have no freedom of religion and any change from Islam is met with violence. Islam, you have double standards, you are a violent faith. You coerce and manipulate your people to remain in your faith just like Catholics did in the past. All of this including the pastor from America's attitude stinks. Clean before your own door before you worry about a small pastor with a small church in the USA. Should America then not treat the regular burning of their flag by larger groups of Islamic members with the same fervour? If you can be jealous of your faith, they can be jealous of their flag and what it represents. I find it so strange that Muslims will move around the world and make other countries their home and then demand religious rights and freedom that they will grant non other. While I disagree with my Muslim friends as far as their faith is concerned I respect their human dignity and freedom and I ask for the same in return.

  • John - 2010-09-10 11:56

    Like Voltaire said:"God is a comedian playing to an audience who is afraid to laugh"...

  • Dyl @eish - 2010-09-10 12:01

    Couldn't have said it better!
    You're a wise person!

  • Kaspaas - 2010-09-10 12:05

    Terry Jones is a very powerful man. His congregation has 50 members. Wow....

  • Getta Grip - 2010-09-10 13:50

    I do not agree with the reverend burning the koran but I do agree that islam is violent...Today in Afganistan and Indonesia they are shouting "kill the Christians"and burning the USA flag. This only confirms what the man is saying.

  • maeve - 2010-09-10 13:55

    Only in America!!! Jones for primeminister, jones for president!!! hurray for jones!!! go go go

  • Tsotsi - 2010-09-10 14:46

    Still wont stop me from celebrating the international burn the quran day!

  • @sis - 2010-09-10 14:51

    a muslim here in SA is planning on burning the bible tomorrow... So now it does have something to do with us

  • mad hatter - 2010-09-10 16:28

    Religious folk , clearly nice people! Somehow pieces of paper with writing on it is worth more than life of human beings ? Vindicates the notion that formalised religion does more harm than good .

  • Believer - 2010-09-10 22:58

    A letter to non-believers..

  • LoL - 2010-09-22 13:08

    this is seriously silly when are people ganna realise that your can burn all the qurans in the world but you wont beable to burn our religion im 19 and its sickning to read the shit your grown ass adults are posting its hard to believe that we all believe in one thing but we trying to destroy each other.......

  • Non-Islam - 2010-10-25 13:47

    Sick Pastor and hell sick respondents. Those threatening to kill Christians are not true Islam. They just a bunch of hooligans hoping for more blood and nothing else. True muslim wud hve acted differently. Koran advocates love, peace and respect for others. The only time where a Muslim is required to take drastic measures is when theres no other alternative. I wud think that those instigating violence on christians are so equally stupid and require serious teachings. The Pastor is just a mosquito with no power (50 members) and needs serious prayers.

  • philip - 2011-01-20 11:49

    The muslims can continually make threats against the christian and my faith and us Christians must accept these threats, lets take the muslims on, my Christian faith is the right faith, The muslims seem to be getting away with murder, literally. Always a big uproar when somthing is said about the qua ran or their religion, and yet we're expected to bow down to them. No No No!

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