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Syria: Civilians facing 'horrific' violence

2012-08-23 10:02

Beirut - Syrian civilians are facing "horrific" violence as the battle for the commercial capital Aleppo rages, Amnesty International said on Thursday, lashing out primarily at regime troops for launching indiscriminate attacks.

"The use of imprecise weapons, such as unguided bombs, artillery shells and mortars by government forces has dramatically increased the danger for civilians," Donatella Rovera, Amnesty International Senior Crisis Response Adviser, who recently returned from Aleppo, said in a statement.

Amnesty said it investigated around 30 attacks during a recent visit to Aleppo by its team in which "scores of civilians not involved in hostilities, many of them children, were killed or injured" in their homes, while queuing for bread or in places where they had taken shelter.

It said that attacks often failed to distinguish between opposition fighters and civilian residents and appeared to be randomly directed at neighbourhoods which are under the de-facto control of opposition fighters, rather than at specific military objectives.

"Civilians face a daily barrage of air and artillery strikes by government forces in different parts of the city. For many there is simply nowhere safe and families live in fear of the next attack," said Rovera.

Some of the victims died in the very places where they had sought shelter, having been forced to flee their homes by the fighting, the statement said.

Executions

Amnesty said civilians were killed and injured while queuing for bread and cited an example of a 13-year-old girl, Kifa Samra and her 11-year-old brother Zakarya who were killed along with their neighbour, a mother of 11, on 12 August while queuing for bread near their home.

"Those responsible for indiscriminate attacks against civilians and other war crimes should expect that they will be held to account," said Rovera.

The overwhelming majority of victims were killed in air strikes and artillery attacks by government forces, while in some cases the source of the attack could not be established, the statement said.

Amnesty also said that a further deeply disturbing development was the sharp increase in extrajudicial and summary executions of civilians not involved in the conflict by government forces.

"Bodies of mostly young men, usually handcuffed and shot in the head, have been frequently found dumped near the headquarters of the Air Force Intelligence which is completely controlled by government forces," Amnesty said.

It also raised concerns about increased abuses, including unlawful killings and ill-treatment of captives by opposition fighters belonging to a plethora of armed opposition group, including the Free Syrian Army operating in the city.

"It is shameful that the international community remains divided over Syria, disregarding the body of evidence of the scale and the gravity of the human rights abuses in Syria and effectively looking the other way while civilians are bearing the brunt," it added.

More than 23 000 people have been killed since the uprising in Syria began in March 2011, according to Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Comments
  • imam.madi.129 - 2012-08-23 10:11

    The shame is when the so called humanitarian groups choose to take sides in a conflict. Human rights organisations have lost all legitimacy and credibility as they are part time rebels/terrorists. They have made themselves part of the war against terrorists and if they do not give-up their jobs as terrorists propagandists, they have just become legitimate military targets in a war zone. They can use the innocent civilian deaths to lie again as they did in Libya, telling the world Gadaffi was bombing and raping people and using mercenaries, something they retracted too late in the day, with Africans being killed and jailed by the terrorists they promoted and provided free media coverage.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 11:22

      They still don't get that hypocrisy simply can't work as a policy and that double standards really just mean that they have no standards at all. Their double standards and sheer hypocrisy are actually becoming quite farcical......

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-23 12:40

      ""Human rights organisations have lost all legitimacy and credibility as they are part time rebels/terrorists."" What a load of childish CRAP[ Are you saying that one of the most respected organizations in the world, Amnesty International, is siding with 'terrorists'.....!!!! You are kidding ?? Are you not ?? And in Syria, the ones who are bombing this country into rubble, are the assad terrorists, NO doubt about it. assad control;s the skies of Syria, NO ONE ELSE !!!

      boom.baracus - 2012-08-23 14:58

      Madi and Circular Fidel: you are hypocrites of the greatest degree. When those humanitarian groups are in the palestinian territories I bet you anything you like your tune changes completely! You people are just unbelievable. Over 23,000 people killed and you are still bleating on about assad's legitimacy. You actually make me sick. Try go to syria and tell that crap to the average citizen in the street, you sick idiots.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 15:04

      They are both so delusional it's not even funny. It's sad.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 16:09

      @Boom You need to up your game and come up with some new verbals please!

      boom.baracus - 2012-08-23 16:20

      Fidel even for you that is a weak response.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 16:25

      It's more than enough for you as verbals is all that you are good at, and considering that you have the thought process of a mushroom.

      boom.baracus - 2012-08-23 16:42

      Shriller and shriller and weaker and weaker my pathetic little Jew-hater. Clearly I have hit a nerve with you and Madi - it's hard to face the truth eh?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 17:05

      Fidel's thought-process is that Nelson Mandela is a fake, a phony, a lackey of the West. This is not hyperbole. It's fact, in the US/Mandela thread a few weeks ago.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-23 18:23

      Mgoqi it seems you are politically infantile and naive. You do not work with situations on the ground because your propaganda induced mind does not allow you to.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 18:44

      Im sure you're more intelligent than me and I know you love to patronise, but you are just coming across as a whining git to be perfectly frank.

  • fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 11:01

    "Those responsible for indiscriminate attacks against civilians and other war crimes should expect that they will be held to account," said Rovera. You need call to account those who carpet bombed Fallujah using depleted uranium first. The Iraqis are still without electricity and running water, after these civilian infrastructures were obliterated by your employers and funders. These so called world bodies need to seriously retire themselves, as they've been nothing more than attack dogs of western powers.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-23 11:40

      To be replaced by either a fascist or communist regime as you would have it?

      customdesign - 2012-08-23 11:47

      lol fidel

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 12:06

      @kress Was that comment of mine (re fascism and communism) too much for you?

      Desilusionada - 2012-08-23 12:19

      The "carpet bombed" Fallujah is just a Photoshopped picture put on the internet by the anti-west propagandist agents furthering their own secret agenda for hegemony in the ME. And do not quote any sources of information saying otherwise. It is all a falseflag operation or a Muslim construct. Fidel you must be the dumbest specimen of the human race, with your secular, ...oops circular arguments. There is in modern conflict no such a thing as "carpet bombing". It is a term that was used during the WW2. Stop sprouting hysterical and inflammatory statements and go lie down. You suffer from cacas loqui.....

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-23 12:30

      Mgoqi which do prefer? You display a naive political world view were you continuously accuse the factions you don't like with duplicity and secret agendas. Politics are not like that in the real world (Real Politik).

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 12:54

      Killing +- 15000 civilians using white phosphorous and depleted uranium is a much more civilised and human way for mass slaughter as compared to the bombings in WW11. You are not only a propagandist but a denialist to boot. If you think that any source that supports this mass killing is a "false flag operation or a Muslim construct", with your known penchant for lies and disinformation, then I can safely use it as an objective source. Seems it's not only in North Korea that there are brainwashed people happy to advertise their own ignorance by parroting the standard party line. Your condescending sneering is all too-predictable and don't want to appear as if I'm trying to get into the gutter alongside you.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 13:05

      @kress Not at all, which is why I understand that democracy is a mirage. There is no difference between the extremes of politics, re-: Capitalism, Communism. All the talk of democracy and whatnot is just the way power sells what it's doing to its citizens and other countries. It's all about trade when it comes down to it and ensuring rules are in place so that resources and markets can be accessed under the most favourable terms possible. The purpose of "democracy" nowadays is to provide comfort and privilege to the selected ones and that task sometimes requires that some raw meat is thrown to the masses, to keep them distracted and energised with irrelevancies….

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 15:05

      Fidel believes Nelson Mandela is a phony. His words on the US/Mandela thread a few weeks ago. The thoughts being expressed here come from and through that mindset.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-23 17:23

      Fidel, ""which is why I understand that democracy is a mirage"" Shame. and all these thousands of 'idiots' in the ANC, who gave their life, many literaly, so we would have, what you call " a noisy circus every 4 or 5 years " You are actualy a well read, dumber than dumb person, like the provo's of the sixties, who the ones, if still alive, mostly are overweight, for the last 50 years, stuffing themselves full with mc donald's and coke, and whose brain got stuck in a groof of 1968 !!! None of these losers, ever contributed one iota to make this a better world, instead they spend their lives entertaineing each other !!!

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-23 18:28

      Mgoqi, raw meat to the masses? Is this in Soweto or Havana? What is this government doing for the needy? But I guess you are planning the next revolution.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-23 18:39

      Mgoqi you never deal with realities only with espousing your own rethoric which does not make sense being driven home with a communist hammer.

  • imam.madi.129 - 2012-08-23 15:52

    Right wing fanatics can only go personal and use words like delusional, idiotic, blah blah blah, they are politically bankrupt and brainless there can't be any worse. boom boom barnabas has joined the gutter club too and has been already promoted to be fred's courier. Nice job collecting NATO/Zionist briefing notes and dishing them out as ur own, that's plagiarism.

      boom.baracus - 2012-08-23 16:35

      Fidel I am very proud of being a Jew, unlike you who says things like "I never thought I'd see another muslim" and then denies being muslim. Maybe you are ashamed of being a muslim? Certainly the muslim community should be ashamed of you and madi - what a shame that the world thinks that you are the voice of islam? As for your racist, Jew-hating comments, that only goes to show what kind of disgusting person you are. And you wonder why Israel is concerned about countries like iran where there are people like you who call people "rabid psychotic Jews". You are a parody of a hateful, violent, aggressive Jew-hating islamist. you have shamed your own religion.

      boom.baracus - 2012-08-23 16:43

      Fidel and Madi: Shriller and shriller and weaker and weaker my pathetic little Jew-haters. Clearly I have hit a nerve with you and Madi - it's hard to face the truth eh, you hypocrites.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 16:44

      I don't hate Jews, I don't even hate you as you've no effect on my life. You're only an irritating fly that comes buzzing around whenever adults are trying sit down to enjoy their salad, and I don't mind squashing you now and then. So if I'd written that I'd never thought I'd see another Jew/Indian saying those things, would that have also meant that I was Jewish/Indian. Deductive reasoning is stupid!

      boom.baracus - 2012-08-23 16:50

      Fidel how delusional are you? Do you really believe that crap or do you think we believe it? You have said before "my Jew-hating face" (referring to yourself). You call me a rabid psychotic Jew. And then you expect us to actually buy your BS about not being a Jew-hater? Ha ha ha. It actually is funny. And you have admitted that you are a muslim so why be so ashamed of it? It does explain a lot though about your racist attitude to Jews.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 17:08

      It seems that I'm responding to a child here who has no grasp of figures of speech or context. How much plainer must I get? Do I have to draw with crayons in bright colours so it clicks? I call YOU a rabid Jew, and that is what YOU will always be. For the last time I am not a Muslim and never claimed to be one, and the reasons I've never disputed this before is because I see no reason why I needed to put such a disclaimer as it is irrelevant to my opinions,(but it would make things easier for you as you could just dismiss my points as being those of a Muslim, yes). Some of my best friends are Jewish! (let's see if you are able to make out what this statement is) If you need some help concentrating while writing your thesis of a response think of my bitter, contorted, Jew hating face when you get bored, it will stir up your senses. (Now do you have the intelligence to make up what is happening here)

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 17:16

      Fidel, who believes Nelson Mandela is a phony, is calling boom a rabid Jew. He doesn't understand that using those words is racist. Not surprising.

      boom.baracus - 2012-08-23 17:19

      Fidel: 1. Is a Holocaust denier. 2. Denies that China invaded Tibet. 3. Think that Mandela is a phoney and a lackey of the West. 4. Is a Jew-hater and boasts of it. 5. Is an aggressive islamist. 6. Supported Gadaffi and supports Assad. 7. Cannot even tell the difference between secular and circular, and yet insults others' intelligence. Frankly his pathetic shrill hate-speech does nothing to further his legitimacy. In fact the opposite. Does he really think his childish insults have any affect?

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 18:51

      Resorting to type. This is an interesting grief coping mechanism you've developed here.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-23 20:13

      Mgoqi all you do continuously is make nebulous uncorroborated statements that expose you for the liar you are.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 20:21

      But you've never been able to once point out those lies, other than resorting to insults of course.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-23 20:26

      If anyone wants a few lessons on how to insult, just read a few of Patric/fidel comments !!

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-23 20:33

      Mgoqi your lies are evident to everybody but you. Somewhere you believe your own lies.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 09:10

      @kress How difficult is it really to call out someone when they lie. Refute it if you can with your own facts and\or logic, that is the essence of intelligent debate. But of course you've been unable to do this!

  • imam.madi.129 - 2012-08-23 15:58

    Will be nice to hear NATO intervening in palestine to liberate the occupied territories under a brutal fanatical zionist regime. Oh no that's not gonna happen because human rights organisations either feel palestinians are not humans or have no rights. That's why sulphur bombs can be used in the big jail called Gaza with no Amnesty International making a fart let alone issue out a single sentence report. The world has changed fundamentally and western fascism has no place in it.

      boom.baracus - 2012-08-23 16:29

      Madi the sulphur bomb slander is just that - a complete and utter lie made up by Jew-haters like you and Fidel. That is why there is no Amnesty International complain you fool. You have never answered the question. A Zionist is someone who supports the existence of a Jewish state. Do you not believe that the Jews have the right to a state? Secondly, the co-founder of hamas himself said this year that there is no occupation in gaza. gaza has its own army, police, courts, municipalities, government, civil service, etc, etc. So what occupied territory are you referring to? Go to Wikipedia and have a look at a photo of gaza with its highrise buildings and malls built on US aid money and tell me it's a prison. There will never be peace when racist Jew-haters like you think that the word Zionism is an insult when it is a word of honour.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 17:10

      It will be nice to hear Imam take a stand against the unelected dictators and Jihadists in his midst who are literally slaughtering and maiming hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims in the Middle East and Africa. Not a word from him on this. Instead he regurgitates the lies being sold to him by these very dictators and Jihadists, who millions of Muslims have renounced.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 17:10

      Israel was created in 1948 from 52% of the land formerly occupied by the Jewish and Palestinian people, and Palestine 43%. Most of the Israeli territory was the Negev Desert. Jerusalem fell into neither territory. Palestinians with their unelected, self-serving neighbors declared war on Israel the very next day. In the 1960's they even invaded Israel twice. Full military invasions. The result: Israel survived and pushed them back, gaining territory in the process. This is the origin of what you wrongly call "stealing land". There have been almost daily attacks by Palestinians, incited by their self-serving unelected backers. Palestinians even teach their children at Kindergarten to attack Israel, rather than be peaceful. Children. Kindergarten. From day one, and even today it's wage war on Israel. Israel defends herself. Yes sometimes going too far, which is unacceptable, but self-defense nonetheless. All that needs to happen is for Palestinians to choose peace side by side with Israel. This is more likely going forward now because the unelected dictators are being removed from power by their people one by one. They will no longer use the Palestinians for their own internal political ploys.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-23 20:27

      Patrick, your comments are getting more absurd/childish by the day !!

  • imam.madi.129 - 2012-08-23 16:50

    A zionist is a jewish supremist to acts in anti jewish interest and traditions, who uses violence, hate, racism, religion, bigotry and the plight of the innocent jews killed by german versions of zionism called fascism/nazism, the zionists go to the end of the world playing victims while commiting war crimes and as a slogan, they use words like anti setimitism or jew hating to undercut the truth. I hope that helps u boom boom. Oh please do not confuse west bank and gaza, the resistance movement led by hamas in gaza is sanctioned not receiving a dime from the usa while the corrupt west bank sold its sole after the death of arafat for a Disney visa. As for the peace loving people in israel, well think again about the treatment of Africans labelled as infiltrators to attract more harm at them, of coz there is the little matter of organ hijacking by your doctors and give them as charity to rich citizens.

      Desilusionada - 2012-08-23 17:00

      the corrupt west bank sold its sole after the death of arafat for a Disney visa The west bank are now fishmongers? Or was it the sole of a worn out sandal, that was stolen?

      boom.baracus - 2012-08-23 17:00

      Madi so your answer is that you do not beleive that the Jews have the right to a state. So you expect the Jews to do what? Leave? I told you, if that is your attitude there will never be peace. But then don't come crying when you attack Israel and she defends herself. Please do not speak about the treatment of Africans. Sudanese arabs in Darfur in Sudan have murdered hundreds of thousands of African sudanese and displaced over a million. arabs still carry out slave trade of Africans, about which you have never said anything, so don't come with that rubbish. There are Ethiopian Jews - tens of thousands of them, that were airliftedto ISrael in the greatest humanitarian exercise in modern history. you are a hypocrite of the greatest degree. Finally, to label Zionism - the great and proud attaintment of a Jewish state - to nazism or fascism is just delusional Jew-hatred and bigotry. The only fascist, nazi states in the muiddle east are the arab states, to name Syria for one.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 17:14

      He's actually describing the unelected dictators and Jihadists in his midst, inverting this and projecting it outwards onto a false enemy. All the while innocent Muslims and their families are being slaughtered by these dictators and Jihadists, right under his nose. Sad. Tragic actually.

  • imam.madi.129 - 2012-08-23 17:33

    There is no denying that zionism is the root of evil in the middle east. Before it raised its head, proud and great jews who I love and respect lived in harmony in many muslim countries including Iran where a significant number of Israeli leaders were born. I am not a jew hater, I do confess to hate zionists with no shame. I believe jews like palestinians deserve to raise their children in peace and security. I just do not believe there is place for fanaticism of every kind including jewish fanaticism embodied by zionism. The world has no peace today because of one dangerous political idiology called zionism, whose cousin is alqaeda/wahabism, that's why these two have converged in syria. Oh yes it is true I want Assad to win and was sad Gadaffi is a shahid, not because they are different from those who want/ed to kill them but because its morally not possible to agree with zionism/fascism even if it is wearing humanitarian clothes.

      boom.baracus - 2012-08-23 17:50

      Madi Zionims is the belief in a Jewish homeland. Jews can only find peace and security if they have a state to protect them. Therefore you hate all people, including arabs, who live in Israel. You are living a dream world if you think that Jews live or lived in peace and security in ANY state, least of all the arab states, before the formation of Israel. Do you expect Jews to go back to the place where people like Fidel persecuted Jews without retribution? Do you acknowledge the historical fact that the shekh of TRansjordan was a supporter of hitler and the nazis and their ally? ONE of the reasons the world has no peace today is because arabs will not accept that the Jews have a right, just like they do, to a homeland. Why do you accept Saudi Arabia as a muslim state, but ISrael not as a Jewish state? What is the difference?

  • imam.madi.129 - 2012-08-23 18:04

    Boom boom, if there is no occupation in Gaza, why is Gaza not responsible for its borders and airspace? Army? well if a resistance movement with light weapons is the definition of an army, I guess there is an army in Gaza and west bank is a super power then my dear friend. I will confess and tell u that Africans have suffered under Arabs and other Arabs, but Israelis place themselves above the rest and that's why treatment of African migrants labelling them as infiltrators and now also physically attacking them is below ur human rights claim. I am not talking about what the settlers are doing in hebron and other west bank towns. Of cos israelis arabs are 2nd class citizens too. Remember the jewish chic who took an arab to court of "rape by deception" because he did not say he was arab? and your courts agreed and sentenced the dude instead of congratulating him? So my dear friend, before telling the world u are a democracy and others are terrorists, just go for the nearest mirror and take a hard look.

      boom.baracus - 2012-08-23 18:15

      I am glad you admit some facts. Just some points of clarification. The palestinians have missiles and rockets (including anti-tank missiles), bombs and heavy artillery and machine guns. They are not just walking around with pistols. They would describe themselves as an army. I certainly think they are. Secondly, arabs in Israel serve in the courts as judges, in the army, as Government Ministers and members of parliament. They have full rights to land ownership and can live, work and go anywhere. This is contrasted with palestinian territories where it is an offence punishable by death to even sell land to a Jew. So arabs in Israel are NOT second class citizens by any means. If it was so bad there, why are there more than a million arabs living in Israel? Finally, please post some credible source for this claim you make about the "rape by deception".

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 20:34

      Israel was created in 1948 from 52% of the land formerly occupied by the Jewish and Palestinian people, and Palestine 43%. Most of the Israeli territory was the Negev Desert. Jerusalem fell into neither territory. Palestinians with their unelected, self-serving neighbors declared war on Israel the very next day. In the 1960's they even invaded Israel twice. Full military invasions. The result: Israel survived and pushed them back, gaining territory in the process. This is the origin of what you wrongly call "stealing land". There have been almost daily attacks by Palestinians, incited by their self-serving unelected backers. Palestinians even teach their children at Kindergarten to attack Israel, rather than be peaceful. Children. Kindergarten. From day one, and even today it's wage war on Israel. Israel defends herself. Yes sometimes going too far, which is unacceptable, but self-defense nonetheless. All that needs to happen is for Palestinians to choose peace side by side with Israel. This is more likely going forward now because the unelected dictators are being removed from power by their people one by one. They will no longer use the Palestinians for their own internal political ploys.

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