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Troy Davis executed in US

2011-09-22 08:01

Jackson - The execution of Troy Davis capped a day of anguish on Wednesday for supporters gathered outside the state prison in Jackson, Georgia, amid frustration from the family of the policeman he was convicted of killing.

As the news arrived of the US Supreme Court's rejection of a last-ditch stay of execution, the crowd here fell silent, weary from a day of rallying.

Family members huddled and wept, against a backdrop of hundreds of armed police officers in riot gear.

Supporters led by family members and anti-death penalty groups had spent hours angrily chanting and praying for a miracle as the original execution time of 19:00 (23:00 GMT) came and went - a candle-lit vigil meanwhile at the US Supreme Court in Washington called on the justices to stay the punishment.

The nine justices' rejection order came just after 22:30 (02:30 GMT).

"It's a moment when your heart breaks, when the justice of a nation has deeply disappointed millions of people in the world," Benjamin Jealous, president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), told reporters.

'May well be innocent'

Police who had earlier descended near the supporters sirens blaring, in an apparent show of force, blocked in the supporters as police helicopters circled above, while the Troy Davis family prayed during his final minutes.

In the final hours of high drama, supporters erupted in cheers outside the Jackson, Georgia state prison but resorted to quiet confusion and back to hopeful chanting as doubt clouded Davis's fate.

It emerged the top US court had not issued a reprieve but rather a delay to consider their latest appeal.

Larry Cox, executive director of rights group Amnesty International said in a statement the justice system "was shaken to its core" as Georgia executed a man "who may well be innocent."

"Killing a man under this enormous cloud of doubt is horrific, and amounts to a catastrophic failure of the justice system," he said.

Anguish from Davis's family and friends outside the prison came alongside frustration from the family of Mark MacPhail, the off-duty policeman Davis was convicted of killing.

His mother Anneliese MacPhail told CNN she was "absolutely devastated" by the delay, saying his guilt was clear from the evidence she had seen and experience in all court appearances she has attended over the two decades.

Martina Correria, Davis's wheelchair-bound sister, made a symbolic statement in the build-up to the execution, telling reporters "I'm here to tell you that I'm going to stand here for my brother today," as she rose up from her chair.

"This is an outrage. No one can execute a man with no physical evidence... only on eye(witness) testimony," said Al Sharpton, a veteran civil rights campaigner.

Pastor Raphael Warnock, who had been counselling the family here, told CNN the drawn out decision meant they were watching "a civil rights violation and a human rights violation in the worst way unfold before our very eyes.

As Davis's fourth execution date weighed on his head, as well as family and supporters, Warnock decried it as "cruel and unusual punishment," adding: "America can do much better than this."

On the lawn by the prison entrance, mostly African American protesters were cordoned off in yellow tape in an area forbidden to reporters.

Racially charged case

Earlier the crowd reach their arms toward the sky, chanting, singing and yelled: "Justice for Troy Davis," "Stop the execution," and "Free Troy Davis" as last-minute appeals were rejected one by one, building up to the time he was to be put to death by lethal injection.

Many of the supporters wore T-shirts bearing his image and held signs reading "Save Troy Davis," "I Am Troy Davis," "Don't let the blood be on your hands," and "This is death row, we say hell no."

"What do you have to lose? Why are you so afraid of the outcome of the truth? Why are you so anxious that he has to die?" asked Sharpton.

Across the street from the prison, another 200 people gathered to pray in a small church.

A Georgia parole board's denial of clemency for Davis on Monday appeared to seal his fate, despite a flurry of 11th-hour motions, after years of legal challenges that have put in question eyewitness testimony used to convict the 42-year-old African American in 1991 for the slaying of a white police officer two years earlier.

The racially charged case has galvanised international protests against the US death penalty.

Pastor Vizion Jones shouted to the crowd: "There are people in Paris, there are people in Africa, there are people all over the world [and] they'll see us kill him."

"It's about justice, not about colour," he added.

Among those who have come out against the execution are Nobel peace laureate Desmond Tutu, Pope Benedict XVI and former US president and ex-Georgia governor Jimmy Carter.

Comments
  • st14338637 - 2011-09-22 08:12

    Eyewitness testimony is always it's strongest when it is first given - to expect people 2 decades later to fully remember what happened is ludicrous. The courts were intimidated by a person's color rather than the raw facts of the crime during the OJ Simpson case - not again. RIP Officer MacPhail and Troy Davis. Troy had a long time to prove his innocence and I don't think people will agree with him being killed until they read the original court transcripts from 1991.

      Janine - 2011-09-22 08:31

      Eyewitness testimony, according to criminologists, is notoriously unreliable. I don't know this case at all - this is just a general comment.

      Stoutgat - 2011-09-22 08:49

      What these bleeding heart reports don't tell you, of course, is that Troy Davis was previously, before the McPhail shooting, charged for another shooting. Try as they may to play the race card, Davis was no innocent angel.

      st14338637 - 2011-09-22 09:03

      for reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._J._Simpson_murder_case

      Snoopy88 - 2011-09-22 10:58

      Yep - he shot the officer who hadn't drawn a gun in the face. And then walked over to him and smiled and shot him again. Now that is murder, plain and simple. It doesn't matter what colour his skin is and if he was white and the officer black I'd condemn him the same.

      AJ2 - 2011-09-22 11:18

      "It's about justice, not about colour," he added. Considering we have Vision Jones and Al Sharpton there I would say it is about colour actually. I can not comment on Mr Davis guilt/innocence per se, but do these two perform the same protestations when white guys are on death row? Sorry, the message may be correct in terms of saving a life, but it is ALL about colour for these two.

      james4usa - 2011-09-22 13:43

      The jury system in the States is very lenient towards perp.Juries are now selected, we used to put names in a hat. Even Mark Twain wrote about stupid jurors. This savage deserved to be fried.

      Marc - 2011-09-22 15:41

      why do all the people on here sound like redneck americans in love with George Bush ...all you right wingers been watching too much american t.v..without bleeding heart liberals we would all be in some post apocalyptic mad max nuclear dust cloud world 20 years ago...open your eyes people, turn off your t.v, look up the word 'empathy' in the dictionary (i love how all the right wing jesus lovers are the last ones to ever show any compassion or consideration for other people), and try seperate yourselves from the mindless drones of middle america..this is south africa , we supposed to be so much better than this...(please dont reply to this whinging about the ANC and malema and how the white man is under so much threat, bladdy broken record, lets try be positive and manifest a better world, how about that crazy idea!)

      st14338637 - 2011-09-22 16:23

      Sorry Marc, but there is no such thing as a liberal - only an uninformed conservative.

      Marc - 2011-09-22 16:39

      sorry clever guy but you are far from as clever as you think, and your cliched, boring, fetid, George Bush like sense of humor is a drag.

      Yar - 2011-09-22 19:59

      Hey Marc Please remember the victim here. May he now rest in peace. His children must have missed him when they grew up.

  • BOER - 2011-09-22 08:13

    Nice one. an eye for an eye.

      Umfubi - 2011-09-22 08:44

      Certainly. Only problem is... what if it was the wrong eye?

      piet.gouws - 2011-09-22 09:07

      @Umfubi - ...... Then try to use both to see the truth.

      I_ARE_BABOON - 2011-09-22 10:14

      that doesnt make any sense.

      Liesbet - 2011-09-22 11:37

      @ BlackSwan ..... SIGH!!

      Susan Moremi - 2011-09-22 17:53

      How sad! So glad there r far more educated people out there. Those who use statements such as the one you just made after careful consideration. It's so easy for you to say 'An eye for an eye' but it's not easy when it's the lives of 2 families who are shattered!

  • Politicallycorrect - 2011-09-22 08:15

    Of course here we see that this is a cause for the left wing liberals to get involved and really has been a racially charged thing. If the murderer had been a white man, I wonder if people would have gone to the same extent of protest? I think not!

      zaatheist - 2011-09-22 08:43

      Hey! I'm a left wing liberal that supports the death penalty and agree that this guy got his due. So there!

      Umfubi - 2011-09-22 08:45

      Don't be bloody stupid. Of course they would have.

      daaivark - 2011-09-22 08:52

      SO exactly how Politically correct is it deliberately to try and sow racial discord on this site?

      Miguel Gomes - 2011-09-22 08:53

      zaatheist, if you support the death penalty you cannot call yourself a liberal. it's like saying that you are not racist but you don't mingle with people from another race.

      I_ARE_BABOON - 2011-09-22 10:14

      zaatheist - no you're not.

      geewiz - 2011-09-22 10:22

      Wrong, Miguel. I am also a liberal, and my defenition of a liberal is being abe to view his stance without having to fear the name-calling and prejudice from people who see things differently, as wellas respecting others. Who gave you any right to box in liberals? I believe in freedom of speech, but I also believe in justice rightfully applied. I also believe in doing my own thing while respecting other people's right to live on this planet. So stop running your mouth, we are all different, and for once I agree with zaatheist even though I'm christian.

      Fred - 2011-09-22 10:39

      A white member of the KKK was executed this week, no public outcry to stay his execution, even though he did claim his innocence.

      Miguel Gomes - 2011-09-22 10:41

      @geewiz, so you are a christian and believe in the death penalty, eye for an eye and all that nonsense. Good for you. you say "I am also a liberal, and my defenition of a liberal is being abe to view his stance without having to fear the name-calling and prejudice from people who see things differently, as wellas respecting others." so if that is your defenition of a liberal then a conservative is someone who doesn't respect others rights and is prejudice. I disagree with you, but hey I am enough of a "liberal" to agree to diagree with you!!

      Angie Mansa - 2011-09-22 15:31

      @ Politicallycorrect - 33 people have been executed in USA in 2011 -probably of all races. Sure people protesting at any of these arent there to protest because of the race of person being executed, but more often than not because they are against execution. In the case of Troy Davis it was probably because there were people who doubted his guilt. Dont think it has anything to do with the colour of his skin. Maybe you should change your name to Politicallyincorrect since race is obviously an issue for you?

  • Jack Spratt - 2011-09-22 08:17

    National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. The association name says it all.

      All3 - 2011-09-22 08:34

      And their President.. Mr. Jealous

      Anup Jalota (Wannabe) - 2011-09-22 08:49

      Bruin ous are catered for!

      geewiz - 2011-09-22 10:25

      @All3 & Jacj Spratt: never knew USA has coloured people. But that organization - haikhona! - must be a joke. Really! I am in stiches here! Brilliant observation though.

  • Verdade - 2011-09-22 08:19

    It leaves me cold! Was he guilty?

      Stevie - 2011-09-22 08:38

      Nine judges seemed to think so. If Tutu, the Pope, and the Great Betrayer Jimmy Carter cannot accept this, they disgust me with their lack of respect for the judicial system.

      daaivark - 2011-09-22 08:53

      "The great Betrayer Jimmy Carter"????? Well now. Do enlighten us poor ignorant folk.

      Miguel Gomes - 2011-09-22 08:57

      Stevie, I don't think that the call by those high profile people like Tutu was that he was innocent and should be released. Simply that he should not be executed. There is a big difference. Eyewitness accounts can be unreliable and to put someone to death with no physical evidence is wrong. I am not saying that he is innocent or guilty, but he shouldn't have been executed.

      patrickb - 2011-09-22 13:37

      Tutu has something to say about everything! Loves the spot light so much, he would go to the opening of an envelope!

      Stevie - 2011-09-22 14:17

      @ Miguel Gomez Nevertheless, 9 judges found no reason to revisit the sentence nor the verdict. And this after 20 years of trying to prove his innocence. Odds are that the justice system got it right and disregarded all attempts at intimidation and interference, Tutu or otherwise.

      Stevie - 2011-09-22 14:30

      @ daaivark If I remember correctly, Jimmy Carter had promised SA political support in stopping the Cubans/Russians in Angola back in '73 (I think). We had the opportunity to seize the port of Luanda by force, it being the only west coast port capable of handling a large-scale and rapid influx of men and weapons. Carter withdrew his support at the last minute for no good reason, forcing SA to retreat back to hold SWA in a bush war that lasted another 13 years. We could have nipped that one in the bud but Carter abandoned us to fight off the combined forces of the Angolans and Cubans (using Russian weapons).

  • pommie-abroad - 2011-09-22 08:19

    "The national association for the advancement of coloured people" Let a bunch of white americans start such a group and they'd be labeled racists. Black television awards etc etc...he shot a cop why does his colour make such a difference...why should tax payers pay this scum bags food and lodgings for the rest of his life??? WE should have the same justice system in SA. Get rid of em, they are no use to society..end of!!

      zaatheist - 2011-09-22 08:45

      Don't see what relevance a racial rant has to this article.

      daaivark - 2011-09-22 08:54

      Exactly zaatheist. These jerks are determined to have their racist wank come what may.

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-09-22 09:19

      KKK, White Wolves etc etc etc....but hey, who's counting.

      negro.please - 2011-09-22 09:37

      LOL at daaivark. Good one!

      negro.please - 2011-09-22 10:24

      Ron-ny: Is that froth coming out your mouth? Should we call you an ambulance?

      geewiz - 2011-09-22 10:28

      @Ron-ny: I did not know being racist is a religion...

      pommie-abroad - 2011-09-22 10:51

      @daaivark...my point exactly what would this racist group have done if the cop was black?? It's shouldn't be about race groups protesting coz it's a black man, it should be about the death of a hard working policeman and his family being robbed of a breadwinner. If there's a wanker on this site chap it's bleeding heart liberals like you two tossers...pfft

      OnlyaGinger - 2011-09-22 11:04

      @ pommie only problem is there is a much more likely suspect who was never taken to court- Sylvester Coleman- read up on this twat and then tell me that troy was guilty w/o a doubt. This is not about us being bleeding heart liberals, but our outrage at a possibly innocent man being sent to death by the state while the far more likely suspect walks free and continues a life of drunkenness and threatening random people on the street. Justice was not done, and this has nothing to do with race

      pommie-abroad - 2011-09-22 12:14

      @GINGA....Yeah mate go into any american prison and interview 50 criminals and 50 will tell you they were stitched up and that they are innocent and it's coz me's a black man!! whether or not the justice system has failed this man is not for any of us to say, but i can tell you this pal,every time we see these night vigils outside these prisons for the execution to be carried out, how do you think the victims relatives feel?? Could you imagine if it was your sister or brother that was gunned down by some crackhead? They may get some wrong, but i bet they get most of em right!!

  • Johann - 2011-09-22 08:21

    He had more than 10 years to prove his innocence. Since he could not do it in that time, the punishment stood. Fair.

      Brad - 2011-09-22 08:29

      Johann, it is not always easy to prove your innocence. How do you think the jury will view the following: Lawyer: 'Where were you last night?"; Defendant: 'At home watching TV'; Lawyer: 'Can anyone attest to this?'; Defendant; 'No, I was alone'. Verdict: Guilty! All I can say is that we South Africans complain bitterly about our justice system. Well, as far as I am concerned, the American one is a complete and utter joke! Jury duty is hilarious if you ask me.

      Johann - 2011-09-22 08:38

      @Brad SEVEN eyewitnesses implicated him. Seven dude. He was there. The bullet that killed the off duty policeman came from a gun that was linked to Troy Davis, which he used in a previous robbery. And the policeman intervened while Davis and his buddy were beating up a homeless man. The guy was scum, and guilty scum at that.

      Zelios - 2011-09-22 08:40

      Really...and that is justification as to why it was all right to execute a man based solely on eyewitness testimony? There have been cases where it has taken a prisoner more than 20 years to prove his innocence. So I think your comment is a rather short-sighted and imprudent one.

      Johann - 2011-09-22 08:51

      Zelios, there were DNA evidence as well that places him at the scene. The guy sure as hell wasn't innocent. He was found pistol whipping a homeless person. Then he shot a policeman.

      Ohmikehunt - 2011-09-22 08:52

      Ermmmmmmm @Johann he was convicted in 1991 - do the maths...

      Johann - 2011-09-22 08:59

      Mike. I said MORE than 10 years.

      Miguel Gomes - 2011-09-22 09:01

      Johann let me put this to you, if I were to say, Johann you are a racist... Now, you must prove that you are not. Very difficult to prove something if there isn't any physical evidence isn't it. It's the same here.

      resiststance - 2011-09-22 09:04

      Miguel Gomes - Even worse then that actually as he not only has to prove it but he has to do so from a jail cell - You would have to be a magician to pull that one off

      Ohmikehunt - 2011-09-22 09:18

      Ermmmmmmm @Johann then you could just as well as said more than 8 years and claimed that ur maths is correct :P

      Johann - 2011-09-22 09:28

      @Miquel he had a trial and a lot of appeals. He was found guilty of murder by a jury of his peers. All the appeals were rejected. He was found guilty at the trial. Hell, the Supreme Court of the USA said he was guilty. So I'm pretty sure that all the legal requirements were met to say, "yes, you shot a policeman in cold blood". They couldn't even prove reasonable doubt.

      Johann - 2011-09-22 09:30

      @Miquel The US system also has the "innocent until proven guilty" clause, same as ours. They have proven that he is guilty, law was followed, what more do you want?

      Brad - 2011-09-22 10:46

      Hey Johann - you do have some good points, but what I was trying to point out is that the death penalty was rather harsh in this instance. I mean, all they are working on is eyewitness testimony and the fact that he was likely at the scene when the crime was committed. In other words, there is evidence to find him guilty, but surely not enough to take his life away. I believe you need far more evidence than that. Did he admit to the murder? Was his DNA found on the gun? Where is the murder weapon? Is there proof that HE actually pulled the trigger, etc. etc.? In other words, there will still always be some doubt and, as such, he should not be given the death sentence. Think of this scenario - 1958 Georgia USA; Black guy enters Klu Klux Klan territory; white woman is murdered in a barn where the black guy worked (evidence is found of his clothing). Her 5 brothers are all members of the KKK and lived on that farm. They all falsely testify that they saw the black guy with a gun before their sister was murdered - their word against his. He is now found guilty and given the death penalty. This is a true case! In other words, eye witness testimony can seldom prove something beyond reasonable doubt....

      Snoopy88 - 2011-09-22 11:04

      zelios - it was Troy's gun that did the shooting. That's ballistic evidence last time I watches CSI..

  • Brad - 2011-09-22 08:21

    It's cases like these that make me worried about the death penalty. There are actually many innocent people who are put to death. In recent cases, DNA tests have proven that a person on death row (or already executed) could not possibly have committed the crime they were found guilty of. That is scary indeed! I know many people want the death penalty brought back in SA, but these kinds of stories scared me. I mean, this guy wasn't even allowed a polygraph test. Of course these tests are not always accurate, but why wasn't he allowed this? Probably because the "authorities" wanted to save face for committing an innocent man. This is actually quite sickening. I believe the death penalty should only ever be considered if there is complete and substantial evidence showing that not even a 1% doubt exists that the person committed the crime - for example, if they also admit to it...

  • nn.prv - 2011-09-22 08:23

    For Killing A cop .Thats the punishment !

      The_Hamster_Wisperer - 2011-09-22 08:42

      provided you are actually guilty of course...

      BLACKMAMBA - 2011-09-22 12:23

      bees deserves life too

  • Louis - 2011-09-22 08:23

    "This is an outrage. No one can execute a man with no physical evidence... only on eye(witness) testimony," said Al Sharpton, a veteran civil rights campaigner. Let me start to say I know nothing of the case. Now on to the quoted statement...It seems to be the norm these days that if you are caught with your hand in the cookie jar, crumbs on your mouth (which you quickly remove with your tongue), lots of crunching sounds as your chew the last bits...we also need to pump your stomach for physical evidence...and that is BS. That is the reason why the world is heading where it is...towards anarchy. I wonder if the bleeding heart protestors cried as hard for the murdered person....

      OnlyaGinger - 2011-09-22 08:39

      I guess you were one of the eye witnesses were you? This is a major failure of the justice system, go research the stofy for yourself, this guy was innocent.

      morena - 2011-09-22 09:04

      YES "we need to pump your stomach for physical evidence" in a civil case its enough to give an eye witness account, in a criminal case it needs to be proven beyond REASONABLE DOUBT, offwich in this case it don't look like it was beyond reasonable doubt thus the protest for Davis not be exucuted, if you going to post a comment about something make sure you know what you talking about, typical of South AFricans to open thier mouths on issues they know nothing about, they all experts in everything

      Tolerant - 2011-09-22 09:14

      There were physical evidence, matching shell casings, linking him to an earlier crime he was conficted for. This guy sounds like a master manupulator, but met his match in more than 1 court.

      Nkutist - 2011-09-22 09:55

      Morena you shouldn't generalize about an entire population on 1 persons comment. Say the guys doesn't understand the requirements for a criminal prosecution not the whole country!! Yes Eye witness testimony has alot of faults and there should have been corroborating evidence to support the case. Oh and you cannot use one case to substantiate another, as each case is handled on merit.

      Lauren - 2011-09-22 11:22

      Morena, are you not South African? You sound like an "expert" too. Ironically, I agree with you, until you start insulting my (our?) fellow citizens.

  • Vanessa M - 2011-09-22 08:24

    The yanks are so primitive.

      Bardy - 2011-09-22 08:33

      Why do you say that Vanessa?

      Umfubi - 2011-09-22 08:48

      I quite agree. They are motivated by revenge - all this bulldust about 'closure' is just a load of garbage. Killing 20 assumed perpetrators doesn't do anything to bring back the murdered one - of course it's hard to get over the loss of someone dear to you, but I fail to see how killing someone else can constitute 'comfort'. It is, as you say, completely primitive.

      pommie-abroad - 2011-09-22 08:52

      Yeah right did you read the news yesterday about two men having sex with dogs?? Talk about primative jeez, you got some cheek, let one of your relatives get slaughtered and hung upside down in your barn , then come back and talk about primitive AMERICANS!!!

      I_ARE_BABOON - 2011-09-22 10:18

      I agree Vanessa, any country that has the death penalty is no better than the Taliban.

      I_ARE_BABOON - 2011-09-22 10:24

      I agree Venessa, any country that has the death penalty is no better than the Taliban. GO ON BOARD MODERATORS - DELETE THIS ONE TOO!

      Fred - 2011-09-22 10:49

      Brilliant coming from a person who comes from a country that gave the world apartheid and had a convicted terrorist as its first real president.

      Snoopy88 - 2011-09-22 11:10

      Ha ha - I was also against the death penalty... I remember arguing as a student how an advanced civilized society shouldn't need to do this and its not really a deterrant..yackity, shmackity... Till I had to hire crime scene cleaners to clear up my Dad's stinking remains from his house after he was murdered. Now I can promise you if they ever catch the bastards (and I'm not holding my breath here). I WILL make sure they are strangled slowly in front of pictures of their children too.

      Lauren - 2011-09-22 11:25

      Fred, you forget the good o'l US of A perfected Apartheid long before it was dreamt up here in South Africa. What did they call it? Segregation, I think. Be careful what you spew, little man. It has a tendency to fly back and smack you in your face.

      Vanessa M - 2011-09-22 11:56

      Thanks Lauren, you're absolutely right. Do you have any idea how many people have been executed when they were actually innocent? I just don't think humans have a right to make that call. And you guys can say what you like to me, but it's primitive. Besides, I know how the comments go on News24 - people like to argue for the sake of arguing. This is my opinion, and I'm entitled to it. I think the death penalty is wrong and primitive and is not a solution to the demise of the human condition. All they're doing is treating the symptom and not the cause. We should rather look into why we raise children to become adults who murder and rape. It's easy to say we're going to rehabilitate people by imprisoning them, but with prisons already over full, we should start looking at the way we raise our children. Ultimately, we are a product of our parents.

      ivory - 2011-09-22 14:26

      @Vanessa M, I agree with you, I also believe that the death penalty is not the solution for crime. However for serial killers, calculating murderers, with no remorse, there is no other alternative than death penalty. I read online once that psychologists and psychiatrists knows for a fact that you can't rehabilitate murderers. They are so manipulative that no amount of therapy will open them up to change. I'm not saying Troy Davis was guilty, I'm just saying that in murder cases where the murderer confesses with no remorse, the only way to get rid of scum like that is by death penalty. Troy should not have been executed as he maintained his innocence.

  • patrickb - 2011-09-22 08:24

    The American's must be the most pathetic race on earth! 20 years after, they execute this man. If you have the death penalty, then what could take 20 years?

      BOFFINBOB_RETURNS - 2011-09-22 08:45

      patrickb....The " appeals system " is to blame for this. The record, if not mistaken is 32 years, although this will be broken as there are a good few who have been on death row longer than this. Commit murder in a state without the death penalty & you could be out in 20 to 25 years, in some cases. The fact that you be incarcerated for 30+ years & still be executed in some states, does seem harsh.

      patrickb - 2011-09-22 09:03

      BOFFINBOB: Thank you for a very informative explanation.

      BOFFINBOB_RETURNS - 2011-09-22 09:18

      patrickb...When you have the time, google " Executions USA since 1976 " & scroll down. Very interesting.

      Fred - 2011-09-22 10:51

      Americans compared to your president Shower-head Zuma, think I'd stick with Bill Gates than Julius Malena.

      Lauren - 2011-09-22 11:27

      Yeah, Fred, because Bill Gates is/was a president of the USA. What are you on? You a little South African troll trying to pretend that you are American for some or other strange reason, perhaps? Not that I'm not for one minute suggesting that some Americans aren't dumb enough to come up with the stuff you do.

  • garethjvr - 2011-09-22 08:29

    This case sounds very similar to Rubin "Hurricane" Carter case, except Ruben Carter got off.

  • IQ - 2011-09-22 08:30

    You kill somebody we will kill you back!!!

  • Turkey eater - 2011-09-22 08:32

    They should have done this in 1991 already - always wondered why (if it's a cut and dry case ) the executions in SA took years to take place - what's the point of wating that long ?

      resiststance - 2011-09-22 08:44

      To give a chance for new evidence to come to light - seeing as how they get it wrong most the time

  • Hugh - 2011-09-22 08:33

    Funny how they do not mention that the DNA evidence tested some years later on a appeal still proved him at the scene of the crime. In 1991 they DNA testing was not as good nor accurate as of recent. What is the writer claiming an X-file. The use of DNA should be the basis of conviction and application of the death penalty. Notice too how the murderer used every trick in the book to escape weith his life proving that the death penalty is a deterant.

      resiststance - 2011-09-22 08:46

      Someone not wanting to die after already being caught does not prove that the death penalty is a deterrent, your logic is horribly flawed. Actual crime statistics have shown time and time again by the way that it is not in fact a deterrent at all.

      ProsAndCons - 2011-09-22 09:02

      At last people start agreeing with me. I've been claiming the lack of deterrence in the death penalty for years on this site, and everybody always laughed at me. Statistically, scientifically, the death penalty does not reduce violent crimes and murder. The simple fact is, once someone has crossed that moral line where they can indeed do the crime, then they would not be put off by the thought of their own death, sometime, possibly, in the future, if caught,which they don't expect to be. The death penalty is nothing more than revenge - plain and simple. And thus not justifiable in a modern society.

      Miguel Gomes - 2011-09-22 09:22

      @resiststance and @prosandcons, both excellent points as to why the death penalty does not work and should not be used.

      Snoopy88 - 2011-09-22 11:15

      I disagree.. I believe that many murders in this country happen in order to silence the witness so that they don't get caught for robbery or rape. Maybe if the penalty for murder is death they would't be so quick to kill all these little kids after raping them? Maybe they would just let them go? Let's run an experiment and see... But most importantly they should let South Africans vote on it.

  • Sandy - 2011-09-22 08:34

    The other side of the death penalty and always the possibility that you could be sentencing someone who might be innocent...

  • Fredster69 - 2011-09-22 08:35

    I bet you it will be deterent for people that want to kill someone.

      Umfubi - 2011-09-22 08:50

      Do you really think that? Do you seriously believe that murderers pause before they act to consider the precise nature of their punishment if they get caught? Murderers simply believe they won't get caught - that's all.

      ProsAndCons - 2011-09-22 09:04

      I'll take you up on that bet, and I will be the one making the money.

      Ron-ny - 2011-09-22 09:53

      @umfubi I'll take you up on that bet aswell. get your head out of your arse

      Lauren - 2011-09-22 11:30

      Ron-ny, instead of acting like a little ponce and insulting people, why don't you use the time to go and read up on the matter. See what the overwhelming evidence is with regard to the death penalty being a deterrent. Do yourself that one favour today. Be kind to Ron-ny and educate him before he opens his mouth again and insults without clearly having done his homework. Just because you like a concept, it does not necessarily make it truthful or relevant.

      Ron-ny - 2011-09-22 13:12

      @Lauren "acting like a little ponce"?? big words comming from a keyboard tough guy, I bet you get a hard on when you try and force your opinion down peoples throuts. I don't need to do any homework on this matter. All I need to know is that, that particular murderer, if exicuted, will never kill an inocent person again because he/she will be permanently removed from society. With today's trackrecord of escapees and early parolees due to full jails, I welcome death to deserved canidates. I agree with umfubi that murderers believe that they wont get caught, but then once they do get caught we should remove them. And here we go: "GET HOUR FUC*ING HEAD OUT OF YOUR ARSE.."

      Umfubi - 2011-09-23 09:06

      Gee, Ron-ny - nice intellectual argument. Is that the best you are capable of?

  • Philip - 2011-09-22 08:40

    The police officer didn't get to appeal for his life ... Everyone cries out to bring the death penalty back and then evryone's up in arms when they actually do it

  • Coconut - 2011-09-22 08:46

    Bring back the death penalty to South Africa. Maybe this will reduce the number of heinous crimes that are committed in this country. It will also save the tax payers million for keeping the perpetrators of these crimes in prison. They do NOT deserve to live.

      Nkutist - 2011-09-22 09:48

      Yeah, if we had a solid and fair and not so corrupt judiciary then it would work....

      Snoopy88 - 2011-09-22 11:22

      Now that's a good point. Only 1% of criminal cases currently get a successful conviction! Cops get bought, dockets disappear, police and medics don't follow procedure - and that's just at the start of the process. But to be honest I'd still rather take my chances. If you're a law-abiding citizen you have nothing to worry about right? Stringing up a few murderers is bound to get the clogged up legal system flowing again too. I'd rather tht the money spent housing, clothing and feeding these good for nothing lowlifes be spent on an operating sex offender's register (apparently its too expensive?), upgraded and fully kitted crime labs and a DNA database. Check out the Lee Matthews Trust webpage.

  • Stevie - 2011-09-22 08:48

    20 years seems reasonable to review every shred of evidence. *Nine* judges still couldn't find sufficient reason to alter the sentence. Sounds like justice to me. No more, no less. Tutu, the Pope, and Jimmy "The Traitor" Carter seem to be displaying a disrespect for the rule of law that speaks volumes about their character...

      Miguel Gomes - 2011-09-22 09:15

      Stevie, you raised the same point earlier in this debate and I will give you my answer again. I don't think that the call by those high profile people like Tutu was that he was innocent and should be released. Simply that he should not be executed. There is a big difference. Eyewitness accounts can be unreliable and to put someone to death with no physical evidence is wrong. I am not saying that he is innocent or guilty, but he shouldn't have been executed.

      Umfubi - 2011-09-23 09:11

      Exactly right, Miguel. Well said.

  • Hay Seeds - 2011-09-22 08:49

    I wish SA will bring the death penalty back, i believe if you take the life of someone else, what gives you the right to live, he had 20 years to prove his innocence, and he couldn't, so be it.

  • Ohmikehunt - 2011-09-22 08:50

    Let me get this right... people see a person commit a crime and that's not enough to convict him? What utter rubbish!

      resiststance - 2011-09-22 09:07

      I saw you murder a man the other day and will happily testify to it in exchange for a twinkie bar. Would you be happy to go to jail and die because I wanted a twinkie bar?

      Cindy2810 - 2011-09-22 09:11

      @resiststance... or even simpler, because i have pending charges, or possible pending charges, and am being promised a drop in charges... this case reeks, what on earth happened to "beyond reasonable doubt"?!?

      Miguel Gomes - 2011-09-22 09:18

      fully agree with both your comments resiststance and Cindy2810. People will point fingers at others very quickly if it means that they get away scott free.

      Johann - 2011-09-22 09:35

      @Cindy2810 They have proven the beyond reasonable doubt clause at the original trial. DNA, ballistics and eyewitness testimony. Oh, and he was busy beating up a homeless man.

      Oom Filimon - 2011-09-22 13:02

      Clearly you are brain-dead. Go read up on the whole case.............if you still cannot understand why he deserved to die, then there is no hope for you. Also - all those "praying" for his life to be spared - clearly whoever/whatever mighty power there is did not want to have his life spared eitther. So much for "prayers"......

  • chris. - 2011-09-22 08:50

    Premeditated murder at it's worst. Just goes to prove that the law has absolutley nothing to do with justice. *sick*

  • Xzaviera - 2011-09-22 08:50

    Casey Anthony walks free because they couldn't prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt... Damn Americans decide if right is right, or if right is actually wrong. Idiots!

      Fred - 2011-09-22 10:58

      Same with OJ Simpson, murder case, not guilty, civil case, guilty, crazy justice system.

  • Cowabunga - 2011-09-22 08:51

    At the same time there was a white man executed for killing a black man by dregging him behind a bakkie, there were no people protesting his execution,wonder why, maybe it is about colour?

      OnlyaGinger - 2011-09-22 08:56

      Because he drgagged a man behind his car, you moron, the cases are completely different, this has nothing to do with race. In this indtance there is a huge chance that troy was in fact innocent, same cannot be said for that redneck hick who killed an innocent man

      Lauren - 2011-09-22 09:06

      This is why there were no protests at his execution: http://www.news24.com/World/News/Klan-man-executed-for-murder-20110922

      Miguel Gomes - 2011-09-22 09:11

      Cowabunga, please read the article that Lauren has left for you and see the difference. Why is it that South Africans always fall back on race???

      Fred - 2011-09-22 11:00

      @ginger, not true, he claimed the other guys did it, in the Davis case there was DNA, ballistics a numerous eyewitness's, its racism as was the verdict with OJ Simpson.

  • Skietlood - 2011-09-22 09:02

    The only way to reduce crime drastically is to hang murderers (when it's 100% clear that the person is guilty) and punish criminal officials and cops without mercy. A fish rots from the head downwards.

      Fred - 2011-09-22 11:03

      What do you do with the lawyers that knowingly lie to the courts to defend their client, if it was you or me we'd be jailed for perjury, why not lawyers as well?

  • SGL - 2011-09-22 09:12

    An eye for an eye - I don't agree with all the "human rights" protests. What about the human rights of the victims? They always just go on and on about the human rights of the criminal! Troy Davis (and all the other criminals world wide) didn't give a hoot about the human rights of their victims. They were/are all driven by greed, revenge, lust etc. There is no place in society for criminals.

      Lacri - 2011-09-22 09:45

      If. It. Was. Troy. What. Did. It. I don't think I can make it any simpler for you.

      Ron-ny - 2011-09-22 09:55

      IT. WAS. HIM.

  • Great-Dane4 - 2011-09-22 09:13

    Bring the death penalty back to this country !!!

  • SkandaalZA - 2011-09-22 09:17

    America....I hope you are proud of yourselves! Troy..I am sorry for what they have done.

  • talkischeap - 2011-09-22 09:18

    It's amazing almost everyday you read about crime on News24 and people shout "BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY" without saying "maybe, just maybe the person is not guilty". Today we read about a state where the death penalty actually happened and the majority of people are questioning it and all of a sudden not agreeing with it. A question of double standards maybe ..........

      Fred - 2011-09-22 11:05

      Anybody have anything to say about the Pakistani guy who was executed by the Chinese this week for selling drugs?/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

  • I_Say - 2011-09-22 09:19

    Find me a nation with more double standards please!!!

      Miguel Gomes - 2011-09-22 09:25

      Land of the free, justice for all and all that crap!!

      negro.please - 2011-09-22 09:32

      Israel? Sorry, cheap shot. I'll shut up now :)

      Johann - 2011-09-22 09:33

      South Africa maybe? Social injustices, political injustices,racial injustices, oppression of the minorities?

  • Engeltjie - 2011-09-22 09:24

    Wish we had the death penalty in SA!

      resiststance - 2011-09-22 10:42

      Yeah, then the ANC can frame and legally execute anyone who dares to speaks out about them in public. Careful what you wish for...

  • Andries - 2011-09-22 09:27

    Justice prevailed, unlike in the Casey Anthony case! What people may not know is that Lawrence Russell Brewer, a white man was also executed Wednesday evening in Texas for the infamous dragging death slaying of a black man in 1998. Strangely, no group protested his execution or appealed to the Courts for a stay of his execution. Why?????? Makes one think how the Racial card is used whenever it suits some self-proclaimed judges!

      OnlyaGinger - 2011-09-22 10:55

      Andries- no one protested because people were in agreement that he was guilty and a hateful racist- it seems you are also a racist for wanting to compare these two guys. They never proved beyond doubt that troy was guilty of either shooting, if you bothered to do some research you would maybe know that the entire trial is rife with questionable actions. Two of the 'witnesses' are illiterate, so they couldnt even read the testimony the police made them sign. 7 out of the 9 witnesses have recanted their stories- and say they were coerced by the police. one of the other two witnesses was a very likely suspect himself since he was a well known drunk who would pick fights and threaten people- he was the one that first accused Troy- nothing fishy going on here is there?? Bloody racist moron. read before you write

      Fred - 2011-09-22 11:14

      I will never support amnesty international nor human rights watch as both have political agendas and are quite willing to twist the truth and/or omit facts to get their pc point across. They also avoid serious issue like the 40000 dead Matabela in Zimbabwe, the 800000 genocide victims in Rwanda or why some nations are begging for food although billions of dollars have been poured into these countries, or how bankrupt states can afford to make donations to "poor" countries, the list goes on and on.

  • Ross - 2011-09-22 09:46

    Botswana hanged a White woman who comitted murder some years ago. Nobody complained because she got what she deserved. The same applies here the only problem is they should have done it 19 years ago.

      2WhiteStars - 2011-09-22 10:02

      Spot on. But every time it's black man, especially in America, it's a "racially charged" case. BS to that. It's the NAACP who stir up trouble every time. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

  • santoro29 - 2011-09-22 09:46

    Its was his second shooting ! You do the crime then u must Pay ! Doesn't matter what colour or country u from ! Please bring death penalty to SA !If you take a innocent life then expect to give yours !!

      OnlyaGinger - 2011-09-22 10:57

      the point is he may very well have been innocent of both charges of murder- pitiful racists read the article- read on the internet! use your brains, oh wait you obviouls missing a couple of chromosomes you hick

  • AfrikaTsoga - 2011-09-22 10:08

    Some of you are throwing stones so hard as if you are without sins. A soul has died and all people do is to indulge in the most sickening judgemetnal exchanges. Which proves the point that we all need Help. God save us from wilful and unwilful sins. AfrikaTsoga

      bonny - 2011-09-22 10:40

      Umm. Sorry Bud but murder is a sin too far.....cursing the idiot in the traffic and killing someone are totally different..

      AfrikaTsoga - 2011-09-22 11:10

      @Bonny, I couldn't care any less about your filthy mouth but the sin that decorates your conscience that you so unwittingly wrapp at the back of your mind. You might have not murdured or raped anyone but to claim perfection is the worst sin that terrorises the world in the form of pride. Calm down from your high horse and concede your fallible human nature which we're all born with. Now, I don't condone any injustice equally so, in fact even more, self-righteousness. Let's not gloat over death be it of criminals or enemies otherwise we are not any different from them. AfrikaTsoga

      Fred - 2011-09-22 11:16

      Not a soul, a low life criminal, the true soul in this case is the off-duty police who was murdered for defending another human being.

  • Clinton - 2011-09-22 10:36

    Ya, when things dont go a black persons way...OUT COMES the RACE CARD!!!

      OnlyaGinger - 2011-09-22 10:58

      @ clinton They never proved beyond doubt that troy was guilty of either shooting, if you bothered to do some research you would maybe know that the entire trial is rife with questionable actions. Two of the 'witnesses' are illiterate, so they couldnt even read the testimony the police made them sign. 7 out of the 9 witnesses have recanted their stories- and say they were coerced by the police. one of the other two witnesses was a very likely suspect himself since he was a well known drunk who would pick fights and threaten people- he was the one that first accused Troy- nothing fishy going on here is there?? Bloody racist moron. read before you write

      Daemos1 - 2011-09-22 11:11

      @clinton great story bro!

      AfrikaTsoga - 2011-09-22 11:12

      You are guilty as charged. Exactly what I am doing now!

  • Fred - 2011-09-22 10:36

    How many at Davis's death sentence went across to Texas to demand a stay of the KKK guys execution, this stinks of racism.

      OnlyaGinger - 2011-09-22 11:00

      @ fred- no one protested because people were in agreement that he was guilty and a hateful racist- it seems you are also a racist for wanting to compare these two guys. They never proved beyond doubt that troy was guilty of either shooting, if you bothered to do some research you would maybe know that the entire trial is rife with questionable actions. Two of the 'witnesses' are illiterate, so they couldnt even read the testimony the police made them sign. 7 out of the 9 witnesses have recanted their stories- and say they were coerced by the police. one of the other two witnesses was a very likely suspect himself since he was a well known drunk who would pick fights and threaten people- he was the one that first accused Troy- nothing fishy going on here is there?? You're the one pulling the race card. you are the one who is incapable of reading english it seems. Stop with this racist chant and read before you write

  • Daemos1 - 2011-09-22 11:10

    I guess this is a lesson for those of us constantly calling for the death scentence, there's a lot of gray areas.

  • AJ2 - 2011-09-22 11:16

    "It's about justice, not about colour," he added. Considering we have Vision Jones and Al Sharpton there I would say it is about colour actually. I can not comment on Mr Davis guilt/innocence per se, but do these two perform the same protestations when white guys are on death row? Sorry, the message may be correct in terms of saving a life, but it is ALL about colour for these two.

  • Bok Fan - 2011-09-22 11:19

    I have no problem with this. The fact that serial idiots campaigned for his release is of no consequence. This evil man deserved the penalty he eventually paid. No tears from me.

  • ousie - 2011-09-22 13:08

    If we had the death penalty, Bees Roux should have been executed as well. Right?

      AJ2 - 2011-09-22 13:57

      There are various degrees of murder ousie, determining the duration and type of sentence, if any. From self defense to 1st degree pre-meditated for example, with various in between, Roux's was not pre-meditated of course and may or may not have been self-defense. So no, he would not have received the death penalty. So to answer your final question....Wrong!

  • Gaina - 2011-09-22 13:52

    I don t understand how they see it is right to execute someone for a crime committed so many years ago.

      AJ2 - 2011-09-22 13:59

      You mean they should have executed him soon after the crime then? Some will have wanted to, whilst the prisoner obviously exhausted any and all means to prolong his life. That said, I do believe taking so long after an appeal has been unsuccessful is ridiculous.

  • Opinion101 - 2011-09-22 13:55

    Go read the life story of Troy Davids and you will see that he most likely was innocent.

  • stadleroux - 2011-09-22 14:34

    Just this one article is clear indication of all the doubts surrounding this case: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/15/troy-davis-execution-william-sessions_n_963366.html. Just because the NAACP was involved in the attempts to get his execution commuted didn't necessarily mean that they were making a racial issue out of it, and I certainly didn't get the impression that those who were against his execution were crying racism either, yet we insist on hammering on it here... :( Finally, I'm against the death penalty and I believe if Amnesty International was campaigning against Davis' execution they should also have campaigned against the KKK guy's execution, no matter how guilty he was or how viciously he murdered his victim, but maybe they did and it just didn't get as much publicity/support, I wouldn't know.

  • traceyLew - 2011-09-22 14:49

    I am gutted as I was part of the Amnesty International plea for clemency since the beginning. Whether or not he was always an upstanding member of the community is not what was on trial here. What was on trial was whether or not he was guilty of the killing of Officer MacPhail. The Court could never prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did kill the Officer. This meant that he was executed for nothing. For that reason i am gutted that Troy was executed. Troy was a Black man in a White state, that's a fact and he was the scapegoat for the killing. I am normally against using racial profiles but I know what happens in the South. My family is from the South of the USA so I know what I am talking about. Some of the witnesses also changed their testimony so that means there was no case, period. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt obviously did not apply to Troy Davis. RIP Troy and Officer MacPhail. I am sorry that justice was not served in your case.

  • morena - 2011-09-22 16:07

    @Lauren yes Lauren in that field (Law) i'm an expert and still redifining our laws everyday in the court room, my apologies got carried aways there, my sincere apology to my fellow Saffas

  • tony.delucchi - 2011-09-22 16:44

    ...i did not know who this dude was, so I googled it....won't comment on the case because from what i read many have already! Personally I do not believe this case deserves the media attention it is getting....this was a one mean mother....If I really needed a Hero it would not have been him!

  • CPII - 2011-09-22 21:21

    Oh but SA has a death penalty…it's called a "slow puncture"..…especially if you're white.