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UK probes MI5 Gaddafi connection

2012-04-22 22:12

London - Britain said on Sunday it would "take seriously" claims that British spies worked with Libyan counterparts to betray opponents of Muammar Gaddafi and lure al-Qaeda militants to a radical mosque.

The claims were made by two British newspapers who cited documents unearthed from Libyan archives after the Gaddafi regime was toppled last year.

The Mail on Sunday said documents revealed that in 2006, agents from Britain's domestic intelligence agency MI5 provided Libyan spies with intelligence about dissidents who had fled to Britain.

"The documents disclose that MI5 betrayed the confidentiality that all refugees are promised when they apply for asylum," the paper said.

Spies also provided the Libyan agents with secure mobile phones and a luxurious safe house in London's plush Knightsbridge district, the Mail added.

The Sunday Telegraph claimed MI6, the international intelligence agency, worked with Gaddafi's agents in around 2004 to establish a radical mosque in an unnamed European city that could lure al-Qaeda members.

A spokesperson for the Home Office, Britain's interior ministry, said: "We do not know the full details of these cases, but we take such claims seriously."

Parliament's intelligence and security committee was looking into the government's relationship with Libya "and will take account of any allegations raised by these reports", he added.

The alleged co-operation would in both cases have occurred during Tony Blair's premiership in Britain.

The Labour leader, prime minister between 1997 and 2007, re-opened diplomatic links with Libya after his so-called "deal in the desert" talks with Gaddafi in 2004.

On Wednesday, two Libyans who accuse Britain of having been complicit in their torture by Gaddafi agents announced they were taking legal action against former foreign minister Jack Straw.

Abdelhakim Belhaj, who became Tripoli's military commander after the Libyan leader was ousted in last year's revolution, and fellow Gaddafi opponent Sami al-Saadi both allege British involvement in their illegal rendition in 2004.

Comments
  • Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 08:24

    Any comments FRED and ANTHONY

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:13

      All governments have corruption in them. This unfortunately includes the more light ones that promote greater human freedom and greater human rights.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:13

      All governments have corruption in them. This unfortunately includes the more light ones that promote greater human freedom and greater human rights.

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 21:28

      Thanks Fred. That's a little better

  • Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 08:35

    One thing is for certain this will all be brushed under the carpet and we won't hear another thing.

  • AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 10:37

    Sure, this should be investigated. But, again it shows the unhealthy relationship that existed between that prostitute gaddafi , and the West. We have to thank NATO, to coming to the aid of Libyans to end their nightmare !!!!

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 13:05

      So gadaffi was a whore and the west are still noble and righteous!!! And lets thank NATO for saving the Libyans? They bombed that country back to the stone age ruined there infrastructure. In my opinion the country is worse off now than it was.

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 13:05

      So gadaffi was a whore and the west are still noble and righteous!!! And lets thank NATO for saving the Libyans? They bombed that country back to the stone age ruined there infrastructure. In my opinion the country is worse off now than it was.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 14:05

      Dylan, A person who is willing to sleep with anyone, willing to pay, is called a prostitute. gaddafi was such a person. And if some want to call him "the king of Africa, I can only say " a king , weak as p.ss!!" He was often referred to as "strongman" How absurd !! And when you say; "They bombed that country back to the stone age ruined there infrastructure" , you are being dishonest, and rather make up your own stories, than sticking to reality ! Most damage in cities and towns, was done by tank fire. The ONLY tanks in Libya, were the ones from the Libyan army. The bombing Nato did was to distroy his tanks and all army basis ,including amunition depots, many being in residential areas. The country worse off....!!! That is your opinion,and most definately not shared by the Libyan people !!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 14:05

      Dylan, A person who is willing to sleep with anyone, willing to pay, is called a prostitute. gaddafi was such a person. And if some want to call him "the king of Africa, I can only say " a king , weak as p.ss!!" He was often referred to as "strongman" How absurd !! And when you say; "They bombed that country back to the stone age ruined there infrastructure" , you are being dishonest, and rather make up your own stories, than sticking to reality ! Most damage in cities and towns, was done by tank fire. The ONLY tanks in Libya, were the ones from the Libyan army. The bombing Nato did was to distroy his tanks and all army basis ,including amunition depots, many being in residential areas. The country worse off....!!! That is your opinion,and most definately not shared by the Libyan people !!

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 14:11

      Anthony please show me proof were the Libyan people are happier now? And please show me proof that the only damage was by libyan tanks? Your assumptions are rather annoying!!!

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 14:11

      Anthony please show me proof were the Libyan people are happier now? And please show me proof that the only damage was by libyan tanks? Your assumptions are rather annoying!!!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 14:39

      Well, I don't want to annoy you too much, but I only ask you, stick to facts, and not some 'wishful' thinking !!! I did not say ,only, but ,most, There have been a number of researches done after this war, including one recently by the HRC, and they back this up. Also confirmed was that 56 civilians were killed through Nato bombing. That is 56 too many, but it is little compared with the 30000 Libyans who lost heir lives in this civil war ! Re the Libyans being happier now; the scenes of Libyans celebrating in the streets of Libya, after it was announced, gaddafi was visiting an abatoir, were not taken in a Hollywood studio !!! But further proof you will see, when the Libyans, possibly as early as this year June, will be going to the polls, to vote, for the first time in over 40 years, who THEY want to be their leaders !!!!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 14:39

      Well, I don't want to annoy you too much, but I only ask you, stick to facts, and not some 'wishful' thinking !!! I did not say ,only, but ,most, There have been a number of researches done after this war, including one recently by the HRC, and they back this up. Also confirmed was that 56 civilians were killed through Nato bombing. That is 56 too many, but it is little compared with the 30000 Libyans who lost heir lives in this civil war ! Re the Libyans being happier now; the scenes of Libyans celebrating in the streets of Libya, after it was announced, gaddafi was visiting an abatoir, were not taken in a Hollywood studio !!! But further proof you will see, when the Libyans, possibly as early as this year June, will be going to the polls, to vote, for the first time in over 40 years, who THEY want to be their leaders !!!!

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 16:11

      Like I said please show me proof unfortunately you Havnt shown me any you say NATO killed 56 civilians were on earth do you get your info below is a link from the bbc. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15528984. So that silly number of 56 debunked. Next you claim people were celebrating the fall of gadaffi. Sure they may have been happy then because of all of the empty promises made by the west. Show me any evidence that they are happy now? I don't think you will be able to prove so.

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 16:11

      Like I said please show me proof unfortunately you Havnt shown me any you say NATO killed 56 civilians were on earth do you get your info below is a link from the bbc. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15528984. So that silly number of 56 debunked. Next you claim people were celebrating the fall of gadaffi. Sure they may have been happy then because of all of the empty promises made by the west. Show me any evidence that they are happy now? I don't think you will be able to prove so.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 17:35

      Dylan, I don't know what proof you want, when I say Libyans are far happier now, with that terrorist gaddafi is out of the way ! A photo ?? Don't understand what you need. But in the meantime relative calm has returned to Libya !! And when I said 56 deaths caused by Nato, I made an error...It's 55 !! Amnesty International, good enough for you; ""Investigators for the U.N. Human Rights Council concluded earlier this month that NATO had caused civilian deaths but had taken extensive precautions to ensure civilians were not killed. Amnesty agreed NATO had made significant efforts to minimize the risk of civilian casualties, through precision bombing and warning where strikes would occur. However, the rights group said that did not release NATO from the responsibility to carry out investigations into any deaths, or making reparations to victims or families of those killed. Survivors and victims’ relatives interviewed by Amnesty said they had never been contacted by NATO. Amnesty had documented 55 cases of civilians, including 16 children and 14 women, being killed in air strikes in Tripoli, Zlitan, Majer, Sirte and Brega, often in private homes with no clear evidence of any military purpose.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-23 17:35

      Dylan, I don't know what proof you want, when I say Libyans are far happier now, with that terrorist gaddafi is out of the way ! A photo ?? Don't understand what you need. But in the meantime relative calm has returned to Libya !! And when I said 56 deaths caused by Nato, I made an error...It's 55 !! Amnesty International, good enough for you; ""Investigators for the U.N. Human Rights Council concluded earlier this month that NATO had caused civilian deaths but had taken extensive precautions to ensure civilians were not killed. Amnesty agreed NATO had made significant efforts to minimize the risk of civilian casualties, through precision bombing and warning where strikes would occur. However, the rights group said that did not release NATO from the responsibility to carry out investigations into any deaths, or making reparations to victims or families of those killed. Survivors and victims’ relatives interviewed by Amnesty said they had never been contacted by NATO. Amnesty had documented 55 cases of civilians, including 16 children and 14 women, being killed in air strikes in Tripoli, Zlitan, Majer, Sirte and Brega, often in private homes with no clear evidence of any military purpose.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:14

      Dylan, you're doing the teenager either-or, black or white thing again.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:14

      Dylan, you're doing the teenager either-or, black or white thing again.

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 21:40

      Is this the article from amnesty you were citing? In March 2011 several member states of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) launched a military campaign against Colonel Mu’ammar al-Gaddafi’s forces. Although NATO appears to have made significant efforts to minimize the risk of causing civilian casualties, scores of Libyan civilians were killed and many more injured. Amnesty International is concerned that no information has been made available to the families of civilians killed and those injured in NATO strikes about any investigations which may have been carried out into the incidents which resulted in death and injury. Well that is interesting I must say. Notice it says 'scores of civilians killed and many more injured' no mention of 55 bud so it's another mistake Anthony.scores to me is quite a lot of people one would think. So while amnesty would obviously be politically correct it quite a damning article in that NATO have made no investigations into the deaths or made no attempt to explain to the families what has happened.

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 21:45

      Goodness Anthony amnesty internationals site has done more to substantiate my claims than anything here's another one of widespread torture of black libyans from the new regime. http://www.amnesty.org/zh-hant/node/30973 Sorry 'relative calm' you said?

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 21:49

      Oh goodness Anthony here's another http://www.amnesty.org/zh-hant/node/30943 Do you know what rendition is? This is something the us and uk are heavily active in. Read the article. Rendition is the clearest case of us and uk hypocrisy.

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-04-23 21:56

      Oh my I think I will rub it in a little. Here's another from amnesty. http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/libya-out-control-militias-commit-widespread-abuses-year-uprising-2012-02-15 Libya is in ruins my friend. But surprise surprise no mention of it from the west. Haha where's all the talk of vast human rights abuses from Obama and his cronies? Not a peep bud.

  • Fidel - 2012-04-23 11:49

    The “Red Man” said it best, “white man speak with forked tongue”.

      bluzulu - 2012-04-23 14:29

      heheheheheheeee

      bluzulu - 2012-04-23 14:29

      heheheheheheeee

      bluzulu - 2012-04-23 14:30

      This must have been after the red man was disenfranchized,

      bluzulu - 2012-04-23 14:30

      This must have been after the red man was disenfranchized,

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:16

      The usual hypocrycy at work from both of you. You cry racism to high heaven. All the while you're the biggest racists.

      Fred - 2012-04-23 20:16

      The usual hypocrycy at work from both of you. You cry racism to high heaven. All the while you're the biggest racists.

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