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US will ensure Israel defence capability

2012-03-06 22:08

Washington - The United States will ensure Israel retains "military superiority" over its adversaries as the country faces the potential threat of a nuclear-armed Iran, Defence Secretary Leon Panetta said on Tuesday.

"This is an ironclad pledge which says that the United States will provide whatever support is necessary for Israel to maintain military superiority over any state or coalition of states, as well as non-state actors," Panetta told the top pro-Israel lobby in Washington, Aipac.

He touted President Barack Obama's record of security assistance to Israel, saying the administration has "dramatically" increased military aid since Obama entered the White House in 2009.

"This year, the president's budget requests $3.1bn in security assistance to Israel, compared to $2.5bn in 2009," said Panetta, according to a prepared text of the speech delivered to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.

Panetta cited advanced missile and rocket defences and plans to deliver the new F-35 fighter jet to Israel, which he said would provide the country with "unquestioned" air superiority.

But amid growing speculation that Israel may conduct a pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear sites, Panetta made no mention of more powerful "bunker buster" bombs that Israel would need to reach some deeply buried targets.

It remains unclear if the Pentagon has provided Israel with the most powerful conventional bomb in the US arsenal, the massive ordnance penetrator (MOP), which the Air Force says could strike facilities 60m underground.

The Pentagon chief echoed comments by Obama on Sunday, saying the United States would not tolerate Iran obtaining nuclear weapons and was ready to take military action if necessary.

"Let me be clear: We do not have a policy of containment - we have a policy of preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons," he said to applause from members of AIPAC.

Comments
  • Ian - 2012-03-06 22:52

    good, even though israel has more nukes than iran has drops of water, glad the support is there, then again US support has always been there

      ludlowdj - 2012-03-07 09:28

      Doesn't matter how many nukes Israel has, it just takes one to turn Israel into a thousand year wasteland.

      Juan - 2012-03-07 10:00

      The enemies of Israel knows that any country that would attempt such an unthinkable thing would suffer the same consequence.

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 10:03

      Mutually Assured Destruction, hence Iran going nuclear should be seen in this context, it worked for Nato and the Warsaw Pact.

      Jaba - 2012-03-07 10:29

      fidel - it didn’t work for Hitler. Israel doesn’t have to take any chances. If you call for Israel’s destruction – don’t cry if you lose your life along the way. Every action has a reaction…

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 10:53

      It worked in the case of Hitler, as he was ultimately destroyed while trying to destroy Russia. Revisit your history books.

      Jaba - 2012-03-07 11:25

      fidler - maybe for you it worked... obviously the 40 million lives lost in-between this doesn’t seem to interest you one bit. But that is the common line for all the pro- Iran lunatics –This is why the West & East is in conflict. Clash of civilizations; for example the zero value for a human life in the so called ‘East’.

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 13:01

      You seem quick to go off at tangents and avoid any relevant, direct arguments.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 16:35

      Fidel, you're off on your usual tangent. The Iranian will NEVER have a nuclear weapon. Nor should it while it funds terrorism, uses the Palestinians to hold onto power, denies the Holocaust which cost the lives of six million Jewish people, and routinely threatens to eliminate Israel. The US was the main reason Hitler failed.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 16:36

      Fidel, you're off on your usual tangent. The Iranian regime will NEVER have a nuclear weapon. Nor should it while it funds terrorism, uses the Palestinians to hold onto power, denies the Holocaust which cost the lives of six million Jewish people, and routinely threatens to eliminate Israel. The US was the main reason Hitler failed.

  • Fawzia - 2012-03-06 23:09

    Anything for the new god on this earth, aka Money, Money, money, sell your souls for it!!!

      Adam - 2012-03-07 07:07

      where do u see any mention of money here?

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 08:47

      This year, the president's budget requests $3.1bn in security assistance to Israel, compared to $2.5bn in 2009," said Panetta, This is what happens, the "US government" gives aid ($6 billion p/a) to Israel, which the Israeli government swipes back to the US to AIPAC, which then gives the money to the US politicians (congressmen) in the form of donations. A clear case of modern day money laundering.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 16:37

      More made up nonsense Fidel.

  • Dee - 2012-03-06 23:10

    I don't get the logic of this. What evidence is there that Iran intends using nukes against Israel? Why can Israel have nukes - and perpetrate acts of aggression and land grabs with no condemnation? And just who appointed USA as judge and jury in nuclear matters? USA - armed to the teeth with WMD's, and the only country who has dropped not 1 - BUT TWO almost genocidal nukes. Bah and humbug on double standards and USA still being held up as anything of a moral or other leader outside the ir borders.

      James - 2012-03-06 23:42

      Good point Dee. The J's are the Democraps biggest donors. And we spent, $1 Trill in Iraq and killed nearly a million innocent people.The warmongers were Perle, Wolfowitz, Krauthammer,Lieberman,E Abrams and Bolton Ref. Kill Hussein By J Wedel

      Jameel - 2012-03-06 23:44

      Dee all they have is a misinterpreted video of Ahmedinajad saying they will wipe Israel off the map of which he actually made no mention of that.

      Fred - 2012-03-06 23:56

      Because it doesn't. Get your facts straight, use some insight and you will hopefully understand that it is Israel that is under almost daily attack by the UNELECTED dictators of the Middle East, who are using the Palestinians to distract their populations from their disenfranchised state, to hold onto power. Once these dictators are gone, there'll be greater peace in the Middle East. We're watching this process start to unfold right now. Tunisia. Egypt. Libya. Yemen. Syria. Iran. Saudi Arabia.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 00:20

      James, you're talking rubbish

      Oneant - 2012-03-07 03:51

      @Fred : Exactly which part of James's statement is rubbish? The 1 trillion dollar war budget or the 926,842 innocent civilians killed since the first american bomb hit middle eastern soil?

      Dee - 2012-03-07 05:26

      Jonathan - Thank you. Long, but certainly worth listening to. That President sure has gonads ... I salute him & his truth.

      TheJaydedKing - 2012-03-07 08:26

      Answer this girly pants-would you prefer a wmd in the hands of Iran or Israel? Think about it.

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 08:41

      Iran may well have the capabililty to produce Nuclear weapons and I don't trust them, but then I trust the Israelis even less.

      TheJaydedKing - 2012-03-07 08:55

      Fidel - my silly little friend. how many israelis have blown themselves up on buses packed full of ppl?

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 09:06

      Jayded, my BIG friend, suicide bombers would not resort to suicide bombing or to terrorism if they had cruise missiles, drones, aircraft carriers, military bases in 200 countries etc. Raining down white phosphorous on UN schools was just a mistake; carpet bombing villages, well that just collateral damage... ask yourself this when an israeli pilot drops a one tonn bomb on a thirteen story apartment building because there might, might be someone they have labelled a combatant living there... what is that?

      TheJaydedKing - 2012-03-07 09:17

      Fidel - If Zimbabwe was to continually fire rockets at South Africa, how long do you think it would take for us to respond? Terrorism is a strategy, the masters of terrorism Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Phillipines, Sudan etc are armed to the teeth with advanced weaponry, yet the choose to deploy terror because its very hard if not impossible to tie back to them.

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 09:24

      The masters of terrorism is Israel, remember Menechen Began. It was Israel that gave the world terrorism when Jewish terrorists bombed the King David hotel, killing British service men, now escalated to STATE TERRORISM. Defining a national resistance movement legitimately defending their country from foreign invasion as terrorism is Orwellian in the extreme.

      TheJaydedKing - 2012-03-07 09:40

      Fidel - Please get a grip. The first arab sponsored terrorist attack upon Jews occurred in 1920, long before the establishment of Israel and long before there were any so-called palestinians. In 1929 arab mobs massacred over 100 Jews, 67 of them in 1929 Hebron massacre alone, an ancient community where Jews lived among arabs peacefully for centuries. Many of the corpses were mutilated by arabs. After the israel state was established the intensity of the attacks began in earnest. this all culminated in wars in which the israeli occupied territories in some cases strategic in some cases not, much has been returned but some simply never will be due to strategic importance, either way they are fully within their rights to retain it. firing rockets at your neighbour is not defending your country, nor is persistent terrorism.

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 09:52

      If someone was stealing my land, I'd resist forcefully, in whatever manner I could, rather than standing outside the thief's office with a placard for the next 60 years.

      Jaba - 2012-03-07 10:44

      Fidel. The first act of recorded terrorism was done in what is now Pakistan, a terrorist went on a rampage killing British army soldiers in India in the early nineteen hundreds. To stop the terror the British army started covering the bodies of the dead terrorists in pig’s skin. Even Israel has never downgraded itself to that level (freedom of religion in Israel forbids this anti-terror tactic), however it worked, and terror on the British troops & Hindu civilians was stopped, as the terrorists feared they would not be able to enter paradise in pig’s skin.

      TheJaydedKing - 2012-03-07 11:57

      Fidel - The problem with what you are saying is that it is based upon the assumption that the land was originally Palestinian, nobody including the Israelis have any idea where Judea or Palestine actually were. Both were conquered numerous times by various different neighbouring states and more importantly no one defined actual boundaries. The joke of the matter is that there is fairly strong evidence that suggests that the Palestinians and the Israelis are actually the same ppl under different rule.

      ziyaadj1 - 2012-03-07 12:16

      Very good point after so many lost of innocent lives in Iraq did any of you see the weapons of mass distraction the USA claims Iraq had.Iran will bring them down if they think its Iraq,Afghanistan or Libya.And remember Russia,North Korea fully supports Iran and so will China cause they not America and Israel's bi@#$%hes like the rest of the world.America is already weak and need wars to fund it's economy everyday we see the dollar is less of a currency and so will it go down.

      Danny - 2012-03-07 12:20

      @ Fidel - I believe that pre-Israel was actually British land. In your logic, should the displaced Jews go back to Poland, Germany etc and reclaim land and belongings taken away from them there? And we can also go further back than that for every displaced nation or group of people throughout time. Also, further to your point about Menachem Begin, the King David hotel bombing occurred in approximately 1944. What do you call the period of 1939 - 1945?

      Danny - 2012-03-07 12:23

      @ Fidel again - re your point on dropping a bomb onto an apartment block, part of the bombing operation involves leaflet dropping and information spreading to the general public in the area of the intent to hit a strategic target, with a view to giving them time to disperse. What notice is given to a bus full of people who get hit by a suicide bomber?

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 12:44

      "The joke of the matter is that there is fairly strong evidence that suggests that the Palestinians and the Israelis are actually the same ppl under different rule." I agree with you 200%. The Palestinians shared the land with their brethren, the Shepardic Jews until the introduction of the Ashkenazis who brought their racist bigotry from Europe with them. The former lived at peace with their neighbours and the latter are terrorists.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 16:43

      Fidel, again, its Sephardic Jews. And both the Sephardic and Ashkanazi Jews trace their lineage back to Abraham. Rather focus on the more than obvious racism in the Muslim population, than on the Jewish people who have suffered the single biggest attempt at human genocide in human history. Six million killed in the matter of a few years.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 16:46

      The Israelites have been in the area as long as the other tribes. This is recorded fact. If the UNELECTED dictators of the Middle East really cared about the Palestinian people they would have given them the few neighborhoods the Palestinians need from the vast land they control. They haven't.

  • Fawzia - 2012-03-06 23:17

    Lets see who fabricates more facts on WMD'S again, & lets have another war to boost the US economy , because for the US , war is a money making machine & do they (THE US ADMIN) care about whose lives are lost , be it american soldiers lives or the so called enemy's lives, after all the US admin aka president & senate just have to vote for war & give orders, they are not in the battlefield, have to live with remorse & eventually commit suicide. (google how many US soldier have commited suicide , ask oneself why). Why the paranoia??? Do you people feel so threatened? Are you insecure within yourselves?

      James - 2012-03-06 23:44

      That war cost us $1Trill. The only ones making money were the Military Industrial Complex.

      Fred - 2012-03-06 23:58

      Clearly you're uninformed and confused as to the real issues. I recommend focusing on the mad terrorists in your midst who have killed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of innocent civilians with their car bombs and suicide attacks aimed at terrorizing people to do what they say. Only then will your words be credible.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 00:21

      James, it's beyond obvious you're not American. What are you doing man?

      Oneant - 2012-03-07 03:53

      @Fred. REALLLY? And the CIA had nothing to do with training these terrorists?

      TheJaydedKing - 2012-03-07 08:28

      The paranoia is derived from brain dead extreme muslims intent on destroying anyone and anything that does not agree with them. There are more than sufficient examples of this in almost every country on earth. The most atrocious thing is that muslims stand by and do absolutely nothing about it.

      Fred - 2012-03-08 19:38

      Which terrorists Oneant?

  • Jaba - 2012-03-06 23:45

    the US will be cowering under the hostile glare of the mullahs in Iran if Israel does stop their nuclear weapons program. Then, they will tell Obama to jump and he'll ask how high. Israel stoped Iraq's & Syria's nuclear ambitions - and it will stop Iran's. Israel is just a bumper to the west - so the west supports the bumper as much as possible, as to insulate the west from the fundamentalism that is the Middle East. Its US and western interests before Israel's always has been.

  • Gordon - 2012-03-07 01:40

    I am an American writing this, the one who commented on previous articles, and you say to but out of your affairs, well not talk about my nation in that tone of voice. The US is the one tells Israel to jump and they will ask how far. Remember the US protected Israel in the past against the other middle eastern nation(e.g 1950s and 1970s) and are keen about keeping a good relation with Israel, to have a point in the Middle East to go to launch an attack. The US still has the biggest and strongest armed forces so if they left Israel alone, they would be screwed. And the Fawzia, the US has its own department of veterans affairs to help soldiers cope with war. And tell me, how much do you learn about America in your schools? So can you make enough accurate statements about it?

      Hoosen Essa - 2012-03-07 02:04

      Gordon, don't mind wat people are saying about ur country, ignore them. you keep paying your taxes ;) ok buddy.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 02:23

      What on earth are you talking about? It is clear you too are not American.

      Oneant - 2012-03-07 03:56

      yes gordon. you also have the biggest debt, biggest trade deficit, and biggest average weight. frankly... you're the laughing stock of the world ( that is the part of planet earth outside FOX news and CBS coverage to you. )

      Oneant - 2012-03-07 03:57

      And lets see how big your nuts are when the Chinese and Russians decide they have had enough of your countries spoilt brat bully attitude.

      Erick Bukula - 2012-03-07 07:25

      Oneant, stupid is far from describin ur level of reasonin, the US has the capability of flattening ur country in a matter o hours and nor the chinese or the russian wud dare stand to the US military, so I suggest u get ursel documented b4 ur mouth alters any nonsense my friend

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 07:30

      @Gordon “You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…” Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache" *"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - "Israeli" Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio Your country was usurped by zionist bankers in 1913 when Woodrow Wilson created the Federal Reserve Bank, which is neither federal and has no reserves. Offcourse the US is at liberty to arm Israel and so are other countries who want to arm its neighbours.

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 07:55

      Here we go again !!!! The ones with their anti Western thoughts , will grab any oportunity to p.ss on the USA. What's new ? Absolutely nothing. It is the same old silly and childish rhetoric we been hearing for the last 10-20-30-40 years. Word for word, letter for letter. And the most boring part is, that they base the way they look at the world, ALWAYS from this anti Western stance. It is the lazy way to look at our world, as one does not have to think. It is just REPEAT-REPEAT-REPEAT-REPEAT-REPEAT-REPEAT-REPEAT Word for word , letter for letter

      Jaba - 2012-03-07 08:16

      Oneant - spoilt brat bully attitude?? Are you mad? The United States along with the other 20 odd Western nations are China’s largest customers - purchasing over 75% of China’s exports. China will never tell the US to go - they will tell Iran (a supplier) to go jump of a cliff because of their fundamentalist spoilt brat bully attitude in trying to build a bomb and keeping the world hostage. China can always purchase its fuel in Saudi or the Gulf States if it wanted to. Gordon - I didn’t say Israel will tell Obama to jump, what I said was that once Iran becomes nuclear - they will tell Obama to jump & how far... unfortunately once a nation become nuclear; appeasement is the only way... until the day the war breaks out. Action now will prevent the deaths of 200 million and a Middle East that is so radio active that Hoosen, Fidel & Fawzia will not be able to perform Hajj for two millennia.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-03-07 13:15

      Federal reserve arguement is a load of BS , there have been central banking systems since the 1700's and the roles of the cenral banks have evolved as different events have occurred . Their purpose is there for everyone to see and is fundamental to Monetary policy and the financial system. This notion that Jews run the US is load of bollucks too and the remenants of racist myth.

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 13:25

      Who owns the US Federal Reserve Bank? And no, it's not the American government. You have been duped! Give me control of a nation´s money and I care not who makes her laws. ~Mayer Amschel Rothschild

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-03-07 13:51

      The FRS is headed by the Board of Governor a Federal Agency with no mechanism of any sort for anything resembling private ownership. The concept of ownership comes at the branch level(12) which are organized similar to corporations. Member banks are compelled to subscribe to shares in their local Fed branch. These shares are very limited in their power. Regardless of who the share owners are, the law is fairly clear about ownership of shares in a Fed branch: •Only member banks can own shares •All member banks must be domestic (i.e. a majority of the shares in a member bank must be owned by Americans) •Regardless of the number of shares a bank owns it has only one vote. •Regardless of the number of branches a bank has, it can only own shares and have it's vote in a single branch. So involvement and influence in Fed branches is spread over thousands of banks. And, of course, no bank has any vote within the Board of Governors which oversees the entire system. Bottom line: The list of secret owners has been parrot for decades by gullible conspiracy theorists who accept it without question.

      ludlowdj - 2012-03-07 14:20

      The current US military force INCLUDING non combatants is 1.5 million men, enough for the US to fight two conventional wars on different fronts at the same time. China's military has stated it can put a million men (all combatants) on a single battlefield. Although the US is undeniably the most battle ready force in the world it is not the largest. Taken that any confrontation will include Russia and China, with indications that Korea will also support a Chinese initiative, and remembering that Russia has started a 22 million dollar upgrade of intercontinental ballistic missiles and anti missile systems as well as halting its nuclear disarmament program. Taking into consideration both powers having publicly stated that they will support Iran even to the point of starting world war 3, means that anyone contemplating or starting a war must by human standards be crazy and would indicate that the current "crisis" is little more than posturing.

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 14:32

      All the wiki info you have provided is meant to confuse the simple minded. The Federal Reserve history is far too long to go into here for fear of monopolising the thread, I suggest that instead you do a little reading on these: The Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins and Creature from Jeklly Island by G Edward Griffins.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-03-07 15:24

      I read it and it is false , its been used by conspirators as evidence but repeatedly debunked . Mullins is a known anti-semite and conspiracy novelist.

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 15:38

      You are a denialist, it's not false, it is a historical fact that a meeting took place in Jeklly island, and you know who the attendees were. I have a filling that you've never read it but are making this up to strengthen your argument. We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of darkness; but it is a real tragedy of life for men is afraid of light. In the meantime do carry on burying your head in the sand if that make you happy.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 16:48

      Fidel, your perspective is far from light, far from true. This is more than obvious.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-03-07 16:50

      Yes a meeting took place with bankers (as with any industry the participants in it) to establish the federal reserve but not in the context of controlling the world . Like most things a meeting was required to establish the institution(central bank) which is univerally used in every country .Somehow they managed to fool everyone into using the concept ? Where is the central bank of India,People's Bank of China or ECB conspiracies? Information should be used as food for thought, not poison to the soul. ~Shellie R. Warren

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 18:42

      Yes, in the context of controlling the US treasury, which up to that point was responsible for printing its own currency, i.e. money belonging to the US government and citizens. The Bank of China is controlled by the Chinese government, not private bankers. The ECB is also controlled by private bankers hence Greece and other EU countries (sovereign countries) have no control of their own monetary policies and Greece has been FORCED to accept austerity measures that its citizenry hasn't been consulted on.

      Fred - 2012-03-08 19:42

      Fidel, as usual you've totally misinterpreted what central banks are and distorted reality with your stupid prejudices.

  • EttieneC - 2012-03-07 09:07

    Its not a deterrant if its not on the table. Arm Israel to the teeth I say, that way the nations the "Will not rest before the complete destruction of Israel" will have to think long and hard before taking on the task. Then again, if JuJu can be radical with his big mouth, I suppose I can say what I really think aswell... Israel, just kill all those who oppose you and get it over with... If Iran is hellbent on the destruction of israel, and rockets are fired into Israel from Palestine on a daily basis, go in and wipe them out Israel! Do it now before they can do it to you! Kill all those stinky good for nothing genocidal arabs that oppose you before its too late! Yes. Prevention is better than Cure... Is it not? And before you even think about commenting "Oh but Israel, or who says Iran this that" Iran has stated already that it will not rest before Israel is destroyed, so dont even try the Iran is innocent crap. Long live Israel!!

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 09:29

      Good heavens, you really do not read much source material do you? You obviously prefer to read what "reporters" and "journalist" tell you what someone said and what they think they meant when they said it.

      Edwhynot - 2012-03-07 12:27

      No Fidel, I use logic, read from "source", follow treands and make up my own mind. Unlike people that idolises Communist leaders, and swallow all the "Anti-West" crap that gets spewed at them, like some people around here... Yes "Fidel" I mean you. By the way Fidel, who are your Idols? And what have they done that has improved the situation and lifestyle of the people around them, that they may influence or lead? My guess is NOTHING... Because you, my friend. Are a blindfolded revolutionary, that can not think for himself, but you rather get hung up with what your "Comrades" want you to think and beleive. Anyways, not really here to insult individual posters, unlike our friend Fidel here, who cant argue a point but would rather get personal. So, once again... Long live Israel!

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 13:02

      A rather silly response resorting to knee-jerk replies that have very little traction except with those whose prejudices colour their reasoning.

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 13:37

      Fidel, can't you just with "normal" words, say you don't like a comment, This is the problem with all these radicals, they got this air of superiority, Like their hero dictators, they enjoy talking down on the masses !!! Stop being soo pathetically childish !! GROW UP !!!!

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 13:50

      When I write a comment lasting two and a half lines it is important to have good letters and good words. With good words you can make strong sentence. I have good words. I am sure of this.

      ludlowdj - 2012-03-07 14:26

      I highly doubt Israel needs much in the way of arming, other than possibly in respect of logistical support. As much as I believe Israel to be too confrontational and war like, they are undeniable self sufficient in the area of arms development and manufacture.

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 15:06

      There's a very strange undercurrent here, have I touched a nerve? "If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack." ~ Winston Churchill

      Fred - 2012-03-07 16:49

      Way too bloodthirsty Edwhynot

  • ludlowdj - 2012-03-07 09:28

    Well of course they will, the US is run by Jewish money, they would not risk the inevitable collapse of the US financial system by risking a mass Jewish money pull out.

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 09:36

      A democracy owned by Wall Street!

      Fred - 2012-03-08 19:44

      Also part of the stale, dumb, boring, racist myth that has caused untold human suffering. This is what you have to be proud of.

  • Bram - 2012-03-07 10:56

    "Iran may well have the capabililty to produce Nuclear weapons and I don't trust them, but then I trust the Israelis even less." - this is possibly the only intelligent comment I have ever read from you on this forum, Fidel. Well done!

      Jaba - 2012-03-07 11:34

      I agree - first time he said he doesn’t trust the crazy Ayatollahs with a weapon a mass destruction like a nuclear one. He has changes his tune from I hate the Israelis more than I love Iran - now it’s I hate Iran but the Israelis are worse... I guess he is warming up to the idea that not all the propaganda he hears on Fridays is all truth? *Who threatens to destroy whom? • Iran and Israel are not in equivalent situations • Israel does not challenge the right to exist of Iran , or any other country • By contrast, Iran denies the right to exist of Israel and its leaders openly call for Israel to be "wiped off the map" • Israel requires nuclear arms as a last-resort deterrent against Iran and others who proclaim their wish to destroy it and who acquire and use either massive conventional armouries or weapons of mass destruction

      Jaba - 2012-03-07 11:34

      *The ideology of their countries' leaders • Iran 's leaders make open genocidal statements advocating mass destruction • Israel 's leaders are silent about their nuclear capability. Leading Israeli advisers speak in cautious and low key terms about it *The position of the international community • The international community accepts Israel 's nuclear capability as a strategic reality • Iran 's nuclear ambitions are strongly opposed by the UN Security Council and by almost the entire international community *Nuclear weapons and national prestige • Iran claims the right to make nuclear weapons as a matter of national prestige and Muslim honour. • Israel makes no equivalent claim to this

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 12:16

      Yes, Fidel could be Malema's brother They share soo much in common; They both REPEAT the same old crap time and again!!! They both are full of hatred, and both of them are plain sick racists !!!!!

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 12:50

      Jaba, you are propagandist, where have I ever said that I hate Israelis. Friday prayers? You know nothing about me except what you have assumed from my comments, so shoulnd't really make judgements based on your own prejudice.

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 13:41

      Fidel, How can you possibly say, we don't know anthing about you?? You are full of hatred, bloated with self importance, and a racist !! THAT'S enough for most of us !!!!!!

      Fidel - 2012-03-07 13:51

      Who is us, is it you and your mouse in your pocket?

      Fred - 2012-03-07 16:50

      That you trust Israel less than the oppressive Iranian regime shows how far out of touch with true reality you are.

  • aabushny - 2012-03-08 17:10

    No one has a right to own a Nuke inform of weapon or an industrial plant!!!

      Fred - 2012-03-08 19:45

      ?

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