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West's outrage collides with Muslim anger

2012-09-12 22:19

Paris - Western countries expressed outrage on Wednesday at a mob attack that killed the US ambassador to Libya while Muslim nations denounced the anti-Islam film that has sparked unrest and demonstrations.

US President Barack Obama strongly condemned the "outrageous" and "senseless" attack on the consulate in Benghazi that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other American officials.

But Western condemnation of the killings collided with growing anger in the Muslim world over online clips of the low-budget film that sparked the consulate attack, which pokes fun at the Prophet Muhammad and touches on paedophilia and homosexuality.

Obama said the United States "rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others", but also mourned the killing of four Americans as a "terrible act" and pledged that those responsible would be brought to justice.

Contrast


"Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers," Obama said.

"They exemplified America's commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives."

In Egypt, where a protest over the film also turned violent on Tuesday as thousands of demonstrators tore down the flag at the American embassy, President Mohammad Morsi's government condemned the film as "offensive to the Prophet and immoral".

The government called on Egyptians to exercise restraint, but the country's powerful Muslim Brotherhood, from which Morsi emerged, called for new nationwide protests.

Protests


Coptic activists in Egypt said they planned to stage their own protest against the film later on Wednesday outside US missions in Egypt and Libya to condemn "all sorts of contempt or disdain against any religion".

Egyptian media have said that some Egyptian Copts living in the US were involved in the production of the film, which was produced by Israeli-American Sam Bacile, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Hundreds of protesters in Sudan also demonstrated outside the American embassy.

Afghanistan's government meanwhile blocked YouTube for nearly 90 minutes to discourage people from watching the film that it called an "inhuman and insulting act".

Blame

Iran blamed the US for what it called the "repulsive" movie.

"The American government has the responsibility to stop this dangerous trend in the spreading of insults to Islamic Umma's [nation's] highest sanctities," said foreign ministry spokesperson Ramin Mehmanparast.

In Libya, where US support was key to implementing the Nato no-fly zone that enabled the country's current leadership to overthrow dictator Muammar Gaddafi last year, the government apologised for the killings.

"We present our apologies to the United States, the American people and the entire world for what happened," said Mohamed al-Megaryef, president of Libya's highest political authority, the General National Congress.

Concerns

But the killings raised concern abroad that Libya's new government is not in full command of the forces transforming the country.

Nato chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen called on Libya's government to ensure "a peaceful, secure and democratic future".

The UN's top political official, Jeffrey Feltman, said that at the world body "we condemn in the strongest terms" the attack, adding that the killings "further emphasise" Libya's security challenges.

And Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski suggested that "extremist activities by al-Qaeda" may have played a role in stirring up protesters' emotions.

Europe

The killings drew wide condemnation in the rest of Europe.

EU diplomatic chief Catherine Ashton called the attacks "despicable" and German government spokesperson Steffen Seibert said they were "tragic and difficult to bear".

British Foreign Secretary William Hague called on the Libyan authorities "to ensure that this is fully investigated, that those responsible are brought to justice".

Canada echoed that call, with Minister for Foreign Affairs John Baird saying Libya must protect foreign diplomats and "ensure the extremists responsible are brought to swift justice".

The Vatican for its part condemned both the anti-Muslim "provocations" of the film and the resulting "unacceptable violence".

And Israel, the United States's closest ally in the Middle East, conveyed its condolences, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying: "The people of Israel stand alongside the American people in their sorrow."

Comments
  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-12 22:39

    These inciteful movies and cartoons r the conspiricy of satan and his lackeys to create enmity bet Gods believers of different relgions east,north,south or west!

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-12 23:20

      Im not gona b dictatd by u fella,theres innocent ppl dyng at the hands of ur country evryday,innocent women and children dat need much more condolences then were u wana impose it!dnt worry about wot im smokin,go detox urself from ur self absorbd state 1st.

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-13 02:05

      @weslywt.muslims r human and we r well short of the mark on many issues,but like all human beings r constantly striving.It wud be unfair to critisize Islam for the shortcomings of its believers.The beheading was a retaliation for the rage created by the shooting of 12 yr old Muhammad al Durrah in his fathers arms in Gaza in 2000 which also inspired 9/11.These atrocities and abuses r stil goin on in Palestine on children under the age of 10.One child begd for his life recently wen a soldier pointd a gun in his face.How do u xpect the muslims to tone dwn nd b spectators wid this kind of bhaviour??

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-09-13 08:11

      Freedom of speech starts with criticism of religion .

      natural.view.52 - 2012-09-13 09:30

      @ dear fort.horseman.7 "The beheading was a retaliation for the rage created by the shooting of 12 yr old Muhammad al Durrah in his fathers arms in Gaza in 2000 which also inspired 9/11" So murder is fine if it is done in retaliation? An eye for an eye? An eye for an eye is barbaric and anamilistic. If we all followed your advice, the world would be blind! So what if all the family members of all those killed in 9/11 also decided on 'retaliation'? Like the USA did when they invaded Iraq? And now all those Mussies are retaliating again, and their victims may also retaliate... etc... when will it end? When the whole world is drowned in the tears and blood of the vanquished? No, the easiest solution to war, death, and violence: Don't pull the trigger.

  • jomar.delange - 2012-09-12 23:27

    Religion, nationalism, racism... it's all the same thing.

      Mark - 2012-09-13 03:22

      Anything that requires the individual to sacrifice him/herself out of consideration for some group is morally repugnant. Groups should be created by individuals who voluntarily come together to serve their wants and needs. Groups have to serve the interest of the people that create and belong to them, or membership in the group becomes meaningless and it should disintegrate - provided membership is voluntary. What you have with nationalism, religion and racism is that a core group of people have constructed self serving 'groups' and then force other people to be members in order to artificially sustain them. Borders, Hell, master races, class warfare; these are but some of the tactics used to herd people into some poorly conceptualized group over a figment of some power hungry demagogue's imagination - and then to pit them against others that fall outside the 'hive' as it were.

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-12 23:37

    Wait,Gaddafis killing was probably linkd to the 'Texas Chain Saw Massacre'!So i tink the US is responsible!!

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-13 00:01

      The God that u r insulting has granted you respite for a fixed term,so enjoy it and make a mockery of it while u can!

  • joseph.motloung.3 - 2012-09-13 00:10

    The chickens have come home to roost. Last year the NATO partners engaged in a massive bombing campaign in Libya to get rid of Gaddafi. In the Gaddafi era the were no assassinations of western diplomats. The west was so hell bent on getting rid of Gaddafi and get their hands on Libyan oil that they resorted to importing Alqaeda affiliated terrorists into Libya. Now the newly elected government can't maintain stability in that country. This is what you get when you put a terrorist in to government. They now want to do the same with Syria

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-13 00:36

      On the mark! History has repeatedly proven that the wests medling and manipulative policies in an Islamic Country,is like playng Russian roulette with 7 bullets in a 6 barrel gun.

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-13 00:46

      @joseph.u on the mark.and @Quick,good nd evil of an individual is not being based on merit but on whether the individual holding leadership positions serve the interests of the few percent at the top.

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-13 01:19

      @quick.we r from 2 diffrnt libraries.Poverty is manipulated by the wealthy power brokers,so the desperation of poverty forces the poor to be enslaved by those few % at the top nd to serve to satisfy their insatiable greed and lust for power.That is the unfortunate 'deal'

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-13 02:26

      @quick.if others see you as poor,is not imprtant,so long as u feel rich with knowlegde and hopefully find God.Goodluck!

      Sonnyjakes - 2012-09-13 06:49

      Was Lockerbie not an assasination, even if it was civilians? Idiot.

      jayjay.mlungu - 2012-09-13 08:02

      Sorry Joseph you are wrong. Do you remember how the masses begged Nato for help to get rid of the devil's brother/ Very short distorted memory you have!

  • sarel.brits - 2012-09-13 05:57

    Woo hala lalalalala Poof!!! I kill you, better hide rag-heads Uncle Sam is coming.

  • edna.errenrich - 2012-09-13 06:06

    Looks like islamists prefer clips of Westerners being beheaded - why no protest for those? As for France imposing a ban on burka try wearing a mini skirt in Saudi Arabia.

  • Rashida Patel - 2012-09-13 06:52

    Why is everyone shocked ? When america armed and encouraged libyans to kill gaddafi ,was ok ,what's the issue when libyans kill americans with same weapons?

      natural.view.52 - 2012-09-13 08:34

      The issue is 'KILL'. KILL KILL KILL. Not who is killing who, but the KILLING. And right now, ISLAM DOES THE MOST OF IT

  • Peter Zylstra - 2012-09-13 07:10

    The muslims must realise there is a real world out there and start by respecting woman, especially their own, and other religions!

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-09-13 07:13

    And I find it amazing that the USA is outraged by these attacks and yet they invaded and forced 'democracy' on countries that have precious mineral resources....OIL. Liberate the oppressed and leave if its about democracy. Why don't they do the same to Zimbabwe then?

      larry.piggott1 - 2012-09-13 07:25

      @Viv. Probably because the poor old Zimbo's dont fly planes into Buildings, Kill Ambassadors, send Suicide Bombers to blow up innocent people, force religion and a ridiculous religious code on people, force a dress code on people, etc, etc.

  • imtiaz.osman.5 - 2012-09-13 07:39

    To all your muslim haters commenting , I got news for you islam is the fastest growing religion and guess what not by the sword despite all the negativity portrayed by the western media. Muhammad (pbuh) the seal of prophets is the greatest man that put foot in this world also confirmed by non muslims intellectuals and leaders eg george bernard shaw, mahatma ghandi etc. It is not freedom of speech when u insult other people.

      Mark - 2012-09-13 07:50

      Thinly veiled threat... I guess when you reach the tipping point you are going to hunt the non-believers/haters (really no difference in your mind) down and make them choose Islam or death. If that time comes, I will choose death rather than survive and condemn any of my descendants to the mental slavery that Sharia represents; a Muslim ruled world will be a complete and utter return to the so-called 'dark ages'. Say 3 billion people believed that the earth was flat - would that make it true? It does not matter if it's the fastest growing belief or that most people may one day believe it, or if even 100% of humanity is put to the sword and forced to 'believe' that Muhammad was a peace loving man - the facts are against you, sir.

      LanfearM - 2012-09-13 09:09

      @ imtiaz.osman.5 - Islam is not the fasting "growing" religion in the world! It is the fastest "breeding" religion in the world! Or do you deny that most Muslims don't use contraceptives? Do you deny that if you are a Muslim you are not allowed to convert to another religion or become an atheist, that doing this will result in the death penalty in any Islamic country? It is part of OUR culture to take the p*ss out of people, religions, politics, even tragedies. So deal with it! And stop trying to intimidate people. Your prophet was a sun-crazed madman who spewed hate and bigotry in every single word he said. You follow a religion that allow ten year old girl children to be married. You follow a prophet that married a nine year old girl. You follow a religion that shouts in many verses in the qur'an that everyone who doesn't believe as you do must be killed! Religion of peace my arse!

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-09-13 09:24

      Rather hypoctical considering on almost every page, the Koran instructs observant Muslims to despise nonbelievers . On almost every page, it prepares the ground for religious conflict.(not to mention its vitriolic hate for Jews and christians) How offensive do you think that is ? How hate-filled is that especially coming from text that is apparently 'perfect in its every syllable', infallible .

      bridget.s.pienaar - 2012-09-13 09:31

      I'm not responding to cause an uproar, but I do have one question. How much faith do you have in your god's ability to be powerful and fight his own battles? Bombing people who insult him undermines his power and causes the rest of us believe that your allah is weak, that your religion is bad and that your people are violent. Think about it. Whenever there are movies/cartoons of Jesus, some Christians get angry, the rest of us pray and those movies etc eventually don't generate as much hype as they were expected to. Both The Golden Compass and the Da Vinci Code flopped. That's our God being powerful enough to fight His own battles. Your actions, not media coverage of it, creates the perceptions that you are currently being faced with...

      malemaisawanker - 2012-09-13 09:33

      yup, every prison is filled with pedophile worshipping, scum of the earth, reborn oxygen thieves.

      imtiaz.osman.5 - 2012-09-13 09:39

      Pedophiles are in the roman catholic church

      LanfearM - 2012-09-13 09:59

      @imtiaz.osman.5 - I see you don't answer my questions. Typical of religious people. Oh I see, so since there are some priests in the RCC that are pedophiles, then it is ok for Muslims to marry 10 year olds? So two wrongs make a right in your book? [And fyi, I am not a Catholic. Also fyi there are many millions of christians that are not Catholic. And more fyi, no I am not christian either. I am a non-believer and think you are all mad.] So instead of dealing with the problems in Islam, you just turn around and accuse Christians instead? Answering an accusation with a "but you do that" accusation in turn, is certainly never going to fix anything. Just who the hell do you Islamic idiots think you are? Dictating to the rest of the world? Bombing and killing people that don't agree with you or believe as you do. The whole qur'an and the hadiths are filled with hate speech and atrocities. Much like the bible. You know what will be the best thing ever for the future of the human race? If we gather all the people who worship the three Abrahamic religions together, and nuclear bomb them to oblivion! Then they can sit in their heaven with their evil god, and the rest of humanity can enjoy the earth and life in peace. Ok, I don't really mean that, but I am so sick and tired of all these killings and atrocities that are okayed in the name of religion.

  • Phelamanga - 2012-09-13 07:58

    If you don't like something, avoid it. If it offends you, don't look at it. If it tempts you, don't allow it to. If it goes against your religious code, turn away and ask God for forgiveness. If it is harmful to another life, speak out against it. But, you do not have to kill another person because you don't like it. It becomes a reflection of you and what you believe in. To kill another person because you think your religion tells you to is a sign that you are in the wrong religion. All life is sacred,and to kill for any reason, even a non-believer, is a sin against God/Allah. In this case innocent people, who had nothing to do with a film that the majority of these murderers had not seen, were killed because people were told that it was blasphemy by narrow-minded clerics with little to no education and who had not seen the film. These lives can never be replaced, but a film is short-lived. The hatred of Islam that these deaths have brought will last a long time and will lead to many other films depicting Muslims and their prophet in a bad light. Religious arrogance is not the same as religious tolerance.

  • fidel.mgoqi - 2012-09-13 08:27

    Irresponsibility is not freedom!

  • pdevillet.patrik - 2012-09-13 09:00

    where can we find that video?

  • pdevillet.patrik - 2012-09-13 09:25

    of course westerner are outrage,it remind them of the dark ages when churches went on a rampage with their inquisition program. religion is the worst that could have happen to humanity

      LanfearM - 2012-09-13 10:26

      Fully agreed!

  • zaks2217 - 2012-09-13 10:20

    My condolences to the family of the american diplomat. The reality is unfortunately this is war, cloaked by freedom of speech and secular security policies and legislations to undermine the truth and due to lack of knowledge on what the appropriate islamic route to take the Muslims end up doing something stupid. Islam has ruled the world before(fact) and can do it again. This is what the west and all islamophobes so vehemently fear. The only reason it fell was Muslim rulers left the way that was prescribed for them. Phase one is underway, kicking out the puppets from power aka the arab spring. If you seek contentment and meaning in life embrace the truth!

      LanfearM - 2012-09-13 10:30

      Islam has never ruled the world. That is not a fact. Proof and references of your claim?

      zaks2217 - 2012-09-13 10:50

      http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islam - to be more specific we can say the then known world when europe was still in the dark

      LanfearM - 2012-09-13 11:12

      Oh wikipedia! I see, so no authoritive references? No matter. Europe was enlightened and advanced long before Islam even existed. It was because of religion [christianity] that they were dumped into the so-called "Dark Ages". What did Islam rule? The "known" world? Really? What about Asia, South- and North America? They had thriving civilisations at the time, and long before that too. It is erronous to say that "Islam ruled the world", for they have never done so. They only ruled a small part of it, mostly desert too. Why do you want Islam to rule the world anyway? Do you not think that we should have freedom of association and freedom of religion? We must all be allowed to believe what we choose, and live the way we choose.

      pdevillet.patrik - 2012-09-13 11:17

      get over it,all religions are the curse of humanity

  • wade.johnson.58726 - 2012-09-13 20:02

    I see News24 have removed the comment I made earlier. This comment was not Vulgar; racist or offensive, and did not constitute Hate Speech. It was an Observational comment on how I believe that the right to Freedom of Expression, is ignored, when it comes to criticising Islam. I mentioned this to be the case, as there have been so many incidences where lives have been threatened, or people have been killed as a result of their criticism of this religion. I'm glad the comment was removed, as it served as admission to fact that any scrutiny of this Religious group, will be censored. It proved my point completely, though its sad that there are Double Standards. EVELYN BEATRICE HALL QUOTE:"I disapprove with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the Death your right to say it."

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