Sarkozy, Cameron 'colonising Libya'

2011-09-16 10:29

Nicosia - The Libyan visit of David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy “marked the start of the colonisation of the oil-rich country”, Muammar Gaddafi’s spokesperson Mussa Ibrahim warned on the Arrai television channel.

The British prime minister and French president, whose forces spearheaded the Nato air war that helped to topple Gaddafi, were hailed as heroes during their visit on Thursday to Tripoli and the eastern city of Benghazi.

But Ibrahim, in a telephone call to the Syria-based Arrai late on Thursday, charged that their joint mission had ulterior motives.

"The visit marks the start of a project of colonisation of Libya," he said.

"They are hurrying to collect the fruits of the fall of Tripoli... because they obviously fear the arrival of America and other countries wanting a slice of the cake," he said, without disclosing where he was phoning from.

Gaddafi and members of his inner circle have been in hiding since Tripoli was overrun by National Transitional Council (NTC) fighters late last month, with the fugitive strongman still believed to be in Libya even though members of his family have fled to Algeria and Niger.

"They hurried to Tripoli to make secret deals with the collaborators and the traitors, and to take the control of oil and investments under the pretext of rebuilding," Ibrahim said.

"They speak now about the construction of Libya for hundreds of billions of dollars... they destroy it and rebuild it with the money of Libyans."

Cameron, while in Tripoli, said Britain would release £600m in Libyan assets as part of a series of measures aimed at supporting Libya's new authorities.

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He also said Britain would release another £12bn in frozen Gaddafi regime assets as soon as the UN Security Council approved a draft resolution that Britain and France are to put forward on Friday.

Ibrahim charged that both France and Britain were out to "transform Libya into a fiefdom of the West".

"We will continue our resistance until we achieve victory, the recovery of Libya and free it of this project of colonisation. The battle is far from finished, we have the capacity to resist and win," he said, while calling for "passive resistance and civil disobedience."

"We have thousands [of fighters], weapons, ammunition, money and legitimacy... and we have thousands of well-prepared volunteers ready on all fronts and determined. The only way forward for us is the way of victory."

Ibrahim's message came hours after NTC forces launched an assault on Gaddafi’s hometown Sirte, suffering heavy casualties but saying they had the resources to overrun the Mediterranean city.

Gaddafi’s forces also still control a string of Saharan oases, including the town of Bani Walid southeast of Tripoli, which is surrounded by NTC fighters as attempts are made to secure a peaceful surrender.

  • JMan - 2011-09-16 10:44

    "We will continue our resistance until we achieve victory...".. ok!sounds logical.

      Liberty - 2011-09-18 18:21

      yeah it's kind of like farting against thunder

      Spyker May - 2011-09-18 18:47

      I always find such stooges, using the term “colonising”, highly entertaining... Eg – what do you call the invasion, of the southern tip of Africa, by savage mobs of foreign black settlers..? Blacks colonised southern Africa in exactly the same way as white Europeans did, bar the fact that (inter alia).., a. Their confrontational savagery, made the self-defence efforts by Europeans, look like a church bazaar. b. They did absolutely nothing with the land – it effectively remained on the fringes of the stone-age (till as recently as around 170 years ago). Europeans though, took it from a near stone-age wasteland, to one of the most advanced economies ever (at the time) – in some cases in less than 200 years. c. Europeans were advanced enough not to have walked there – eg they had already invented the wheel... I am not in the least surprised that the civilised people of Libya (viz those with a 21st century rationale) will emancipate themselves, from an archaic despot like the AU/Zanu/ANC’s sugar-daddy Gaddafi, at any- and all cost.

  • Francois - 2011-09-16 10:45

    It seems to me to be more of a human rights induced coup d'etat. So by the way, did Gadaffi not gain power from the barrel of a gun? Is it not a classic case of how you live is how you will die?

      Walter - 2011-09-16 10:52

      And a typical Robert Mugabe type statement.

  • steve - 2011-09-16 10:56

    Gadaffi had most of Libyas wealth in his foreign bank accounts, his family and cronies have been living the high life (champagne and sushi brigade) while the nation starved, but apparently this is what Africa aspire to become, I prefer Chinas Mao to this greed and corrupt society.

      Nhlanhla - 2011-09-16 11:04

      Libyan ppl have never starved. please check that again. people had direct grants from oil money.

      Ladien - 2011-09-16 11:15

      Clearly you dont know what you talking about. Libyans people are resisting Nato. dID YOU KNOW THAT LIBYAN CITIZENS have free education, free health care free houses.

      Anton - 2011-09-16 11:25

      Nhlanhla, But whatever, these gaddafi thugs will go down in history, as the most corrupt family, Africa has ever known. Not just the billions they stole on oil contracts, but just about on any deal made in Libya during the last 42 years. Just to show the level of GREED this family had; read about what happened when Coca Cola returned to Libya in 2004, when these lovely gaddafi kids were fighting amongst each other, who would gert the millions in "commission" These gaddafies are not just murderers, BUT TRUE ROTTEN THUGS!!!!!!!

      Illuminated - 2011-09-16 12:26

      its amazing how people like steve just make these statements that they suck out of thin air.. and i honestly think Anton works for NATO or some western owned propaganda company because he is relentless is spreading lies, no-one who is casually providing their opinion is that committed without having a hidden agenda.. any criticism of NATO or the terrorists overthrowing the lybian government is met with swift propaganda from him. very strange indeed..

      steve - 2011-09-16 13:37

      Nhalanha,Ladien, Why don't you check your Libyan history and catch a wake up!! http// ( Gaddafi's sons party in Venice 2005 while most Libyans starve) try get your facts from international press also, this family is well known in Italy for their exesses, reminds me of where our society is heading at the moment!

      Anton - 2011-09-16 13:45

      Ladien, Yes, and when you mention all these achievements of this gaddafi, don't forget, all these shallow unmarked graves, where this tyrant, had ,anyone who opposed him, thrown in!!!

      Logic - 2011-09-16 14:46

      Steve you an idiot! Libyans had it all, free, medical, education and for the best of the best students free overseas studies and all for the benefit of their country. Subsidised food, housing and other items.Gadaffi was no saint but then if you are free of sin cast the first stone. The WEST has taught all nations with their democracy about greed and corruotion and all traditional values have been eroded by the WEST's way of thinking, be it African, Arab or any other, we have lost our way by being WESTERNISED or in your case chasing the American dream. Americans have no culture so why should the rest of the world have any and you want their way of life.... move to the US.

      Harvey - 2011-09-16 18:01

      Steve, these guys are conspriacy nutters. They believe the illuminati and our reticulan overlords have masterminded this coup for oil, because they once watched a michael moore "documentary." The world is a better place without Gadaffi. Libya is a better place without Gadaffi. The Libyan people rose up and took him out. There were no Nato forces on the ground. That fact alone proves this was the will of the people. Sic Semper Tyranis.

      john - 2011-09-17 10:56

      Logic, the Libyans did not "have it all". Almost all of the oil-rich Gulf states provide free services for their people. Norwegians get exactly the same services from their govt. The difference is that Norwegians are also highly-paid, get lots of disposable income, and live in a highly developed country. Libyans had very little disposable income and their country is under-developed. It's amazing how Africans have been conditioned to believe that having no disposable income, no way of procuring your own services, and thus being entirely dependent on the state, is somehow preferable to being able to pay for these things yourself. A Westerner wants a million dollars in his bank account so that he can pay for his own water, electricity, education, house and car. An African wants no money in his bank account but the State to provide free water, electricity, education, RDP housing and public transport. And then Africans wonder they lag so far behind the rest of the world. A Westerner wants his govt to stay out of the way while he creates his own wealth. An African wants all the money to go to the govt so that they can dish it out as they choose. That's why Western businessmen and African leaders like Mugabe/Zuma/Gaddafi get all the wealth. Western leaders get very little wealth. Compare 10 Downing Street to the average African leader's official residence. In the West, they money goes to those who work for it. In Africa, it goes to those who govern. That's why they like tyranny.

      Ryan - 2011-09-18 13:06

      @Nhlanlha (and all those that gave him a thumbs up) .. did they also have the right to vote and select their government and have freedom ?? but i suppose thats not important right

      Ryan - 2011-09-18 13:10

      @ Ladien .. you are an idiot ... Libyans are not resisting NATO. the rebels asked for UN and NATO help. the rebels are Libyans and they are not a minority. you must be the only sorry ass that doesn't care about having freedom and the right to vote. well, after 40 years, the people of Libya decided they couldnt live without freedom any longer. they then asked NATO for help since they had no chance on their own against Gadaffi's army and mercenaries

      slg - 2011-09-19 05:45

      Logic, if Libyans had it all why would they throw out the brutal dictator Gadhafi and his apprentice sons? Why would Egyptians and Tunisians do the same? You're not making sense.

  • letsee - 2011-09-16 11:14

    Well, maybe, Gaddafi didn't do better and gave the opportunity...

  • Debonaire - 2011-09-16 11:31

    It was colonised/stolen by Gaddafi for 42 years - better that being colonised by the chinese

  • Sisie - 2011-09-16 11:41

    I think that France & UK were looking to see if things were okay getting back to normal again, so that they can send all those "refugees" back to Libya, otherwise they will never leave Uk & European shores again, and in a years time will want citizenship oh and don't forget benefits. Why work when they can get it all for being "refugees". I guess that is what colonizing they mean - with their own people. They are needed to help rebuild their country.

      Illuminated - 2011-09-16 12:29

      France and UK government officials were there to secure a return on their investment.. they got rid of gadaffi and propped up a new dictator and now want resources... i watched RT last light and with hidden cameras saw that any lybians supporting Gadaffi or critisizing the rebels are killed... democracy in action..

      slg - 2011-09-19 05:44

      lluminated, have you checked to find out which countries have been awarded the oil exploration tenders in Iraq? I suggest you do this before spouting inaccurate conspiracy theories.

      GrimReaper1 - 2011-09-19 10:55

      hahaha...u should do stand-up comedy,they are there only for the oil

  • Fred Marais - 2011-09-16 12:00

    so where are the democratic elections for a new government ? If Libya didn't have oil and money, doubt the US and UK would have raised a finger.

      Anton - 2011-09-16 12:49

      Fred Marais, Elections in Libya, should be within 8 months!! Don't forget, this gaddafi thug destroyed every possible democratic institution, political parties, unions, and any possible civil organisation, so the Libyans will have to start from scratch, but fortunately they are getting many offers of help from many parts of the world!! And surely its time now, to forget about all these silly oil conspiracies!!!

      Law01 - 2011-09-16 16:51

      true, why not Zimbabwe??? Zim has no OIL... how evident!

      aman - 2011-09-16 17:11

      They're leaving Zim to the toothless AU to do NOTHING. Actually I cringe to think if Zim had a coup whether the AU and SA would keep their noses out of their business, because right now they fit the image of what is ahead for South Africa perfectly.

      Ryan - 2011-09-18 13:17

      you sound like an oke with half a brain. LIBYA IS STILL FIGHTING A WAR. there is still major fighting between the rebels and loyalists in areas like Sirte and Bani Walid. Tripoli, the capital, was only taken within the last month. you really think right now is the time for elections across the country ??? wake up fool. those elections will happen, because without democracy it would be like having another Gaddafi and a country that still has no freedom.

      Ryan - 2011-09-18 13:22

      @ Law ... the people of Zim did not rise up and start and armed struggle like the people of Libya did. the Zimbos rather just packed up and walked across the border to prosperous SA. secondly, I won't assume that there was no hidden agenda for NATO helping the rebels. but maybe you shouldn't assume that there is. but whether theres a hidden agenda (like scoring business deals within Libya) is not as important as that with NATO's help the rebels were able to secure the beginnings of freedom for the Libyan people and forthcoming elections to elect a democratic government for the first time in 40 years.

  • marco - 2011-09-16 13:29

    While the revolution against Gaddafi is over,the NTC has a much more difficult political task of putting together a stable government that's experimenting with Democracy.We all hope that the leaders who emerge from all this will be seriously concerned with improving the lives of Libyans rather than just enriching themselves or their "friends". Since the(NTC)relies on NATO countries for its money,services and whatever else,it is very likely that the NTC will have to adopt any if not all policies that NATO nations approves of.Can't really see it going any other way. You see Gaddafi financed the African Bank and the continent wide telecommunications system,which allowed African Nations to bypass western-controlled networks ie the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.And to be at their tender mercies when it came to borrowing money and paying back debt.No wonder Gaddafi said he wanted to be leader of a United States of Africa,cause he poured so many billions of Libyan funds into the African continent.Gaddafi at one time also wanted a new single currency for Africa which could be used instead of the US dollar or the Euro. Ellen Brown,an attorney and president of the Public Banking Institute,and writer of the book The Web of Debt wrote: "Gaddafi initiated a movement to refuse the dollar and the euro,and called on Arab and African nations to use a new currency instead,the GOLD DINAR. Gaddafi suggested establishing a united African continent,with its 200

  • marco - 2011-09-16 13:30

    million people using this single currency.During the past year,the idea was approved by many Arab countries and most African countries. The only opponents were the Republic of South Africa and the head of the League of Arab States.The initiative was viewed negatively by the USA and the European Union,with French president Nicolas Sarkozy calling Libya a threat to the financial security of mankind."-Sarkozy why am I not surprise!!!! Anyway moving on.Amengeo Amengeo wrote in an article in The Citizen in Tanzania how Gaddafi had been seen by African leaders overall including the big man himself:"While under sanctions by the West, the Africans unswervingly supported Gaddafi.Nelson Mandela upon his release from apartheid’s prisons defied Western sanctions and went overland to visit and thank Colonel Gaddafi for his moral and financial support during the long struggle against apartheid.Other African leaders followed and regular visits with Gaddafi which defied the West and made the sanctions totally irrelevant.” Under Gaddafi's Rule Libyans got free medical treatment,free education where better students were supported to study abroad.Gaddafi also subsidized the price of cars,the average life expectancy of a Libyan in 2009 was 77 years one less than an American.Retail and wholesale trading operations were called "people's supermarkets" where Libyans could purchase whatever they needed at low prices.In the 1980's Libyans enjoyed much improved housing and education,

  • marco - 2011-09-16 13:30

    comprehensive social welfare services, and general standards of health that were among the highest in Africa.The the most popular achievement of the Gaddafi regime is its Great Man-Made River (GMMR) project which brought water to the desert by building the largest and most expensive irrigation project in history, the $33 billion GMMR (Great Man-Made River) project.Even more than oil,water is crucial to life in Libya.The GMMR provides 70 percent of the population with water for drinking and irrigation, pumping it from Libya’s vast underground Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System in the south to populated coastal areas 4,000 kilometers to the north. NTC listen up. The West and NATO countries are committed to the “Washington consensus”,with its emphasis on privatization of public enterprises,elimination of subsidies so that prices are set by the free market, reduction of taxes and public services,sacred economic doctrines that Gaddafi did not accord with when he was in power.What about Libya's oil? Syed Rashid Husain, writing in Arab News, explains that:"Russian giant Gazprom,as well as China’s CNOOC and Sinopec were traditionally present in a dominant way before the outbreak of violence in the oil rich Libya.About 75 Chinese companies operated in Libya before the war,involving 36,000 staff in some 50 projects.”Both China and Russia abstained from voting on the UN resolution supporting military action against Gaddafi. NTC frontman Mustafa Jalil did say "we will

  • marco - 2011-09-16 13:30

    favour companies from countries which support the rebel movement over those from countries which did not.So it seems that companies from Italy,France,UK and the US will benefit from this removal of Gaddafi,while companies from China,Russia and Brazil will not.Certainly this is what it looks like from the Russian point of view. In an article from The Voice of Russia Kudashkina Edaterina wrote: “…it is now very clear that the war was for Libyan oil and in this sense we have to watch carefully because among the countries which suffered from this unprecedented use of force against the Libyan state is Russia which lost about $4 billion of possible contracts with Libya.” Removal of Gaddafi-The History between Africa and Europe: The period between 1881 and the start of World War I is described as the Scramble for Africa.During this time European imperial powers of Great Britain,France,Germany,Italy,Belgium,Spain,and Portugal, gained control of virtually all of Africa.By 1914 only 2 countries in Africa were not under European control ie Liberia and Ethiopia.In 1911,the Italians took control of Libya from the (Turkish) Ottoman Empire.Even though Libya was one of the last African regions to fall under European control,it was the first African colony to gain its independence from Europe in 1951. While the leaders of Western countries hated Gaddafi,we have seen that he was well regarded by the leaders of the newly independent African countries in much of the 20th century.

  • sarecen - 2011-09-16 13:33

    so please explain the riots in egypt, syria, and morroco etc you uneducated morons should rather just shut up and go weed or mow somebodys lawn

      Logic - 2011-09-16 15:14

      you obviously a little underdeveloped as well as a person who has never fought for anything. Why don't you see who is sponsoring these uprisings and why? Then start commenting about how much weed you smoke while your "boy" is mowing your lawn if you get my drift!!

      slg - 2011-09-19 05:42

      No-one's sponsoring these events Logic. You're making this up and in the process missing momentous world events. You loss, but not the loss of one hundred million people of the Middle East who are celebrating.

  • sarecen - 2011-09-16 13:36

    anton you are waisting your time trying to explain to these things, i think they suffer from some type of phobia, they only can function under a dictator, or cheif. one boss for life and then they are happy

  • mokafor3 - 2011-09-16 13:47

    pple should be happy for UK and France without that now masacare will be in Libayn, Gaddafi will slugther his peopls thats his ways

  • mokafor3 - 2011-09-16 13:50

    check he lost power but still asked to fight knowning fully well that his own family are in safe heaven pls guys Gaddafi has been there now for 42 year his history can be google the man is a devil, one more thing they must find and kill him his forefather's was Lucifer

  • steve - 2011-09-16 14:12

    Look up Gadaffi's torture gulag on Google, this guy was a monster!!!

      Logic - 2011-09-16 15:10

      Shut up Steve!! You ever been to Libya or any other "BLACK" country even on holiday and spent time with the locals and not in a resort or hotel, eaten local cuisine and slept in their homes. Monsters are created not born. Who is creating the current monsters?

      slg - 2011-09-19 05:41

      Logic, being hysterical is really weak. Your arguments have little substance too. Libyans, Egyptians, and Tunisians have just freed themselves from decades of dictatorial rule and this is what you have to say about that? You're missing the importance and significance of what's just happened.

      GrimReaper1 - 2011-09-19 10:58

      it's all western propaganda that the West are feeding you so that they can get away with murder

  • mSholozi - 2011-09-16 14:28

    it is the tendency of the west..

      slg - 2011-09-19 05:35

      And every tribal grouping, all over Africa.

  • Sammy - 2011-09-16 14:49

    What these idiots like Gadaffi and Mugabe dont realise with their colonisation rhetoric is that nobody wants to colonise africa again because it will cost more to develop than what the country is worth oil and all,why did they leave in the first place,it wasnt all the socalled liberation struggle, they were just fed up of throwing money away, even now they are still throwing it away in so called development aid africa is a money pit, minerals and all.Many of the expats I have spoken to from Zim say they would prefer to have Smith back as then they would have food ,jobs,education and health care that existed then.

      Logic - 2011-09-16 15:07

      Spoken like a true silver spoon kid who never had to fight for anything and all was just handed to you. Have you ever gone hungry, been turned away because of the colour of your skin or looked down upin beacause of the same thing that you were stupid because you are not WHITE skinned. Only a idiot would want to go back to being oppressed openly and with the consent of the rest of western world to boot as well!!

      slg - 2011-09-19 05:39

      Logic, there's no logical connection between what you've just written dn what Sammy has said.

  • Logic - 2011-09-16 14:56

    We fought apartheid in the streets and never did the US or NATO or any other WESTERN nation step up and assist with arms and asset embargos yet here we are on the brink of a civil war that most SA citizens do not even see coming but we send so much energy wanting to be westernised. Why is the WEST so involved in these countries and their affairs? Why is the west so afraid of Gadaffi and his wanting to form a UNITED AFRICA with a single trade currency? Why do they (WEST)not want AFRICANS to control Africa? For our benefit, I think not?

      Law01 - 2011-09-16 23:00

      Well said Logic... where was there Human Rights Watch then?? There Time is coming to an end soon, this pathetic US Governement, brainwashing its citizens with its media, poor people. Gadafi sponsored Africa's only sattelite to the tune of 300 Million of Libya's Money so Africa could have its own sattelite TV, Protecting us from the Brainwashing of the Zionist Run Western Media. Shame it never took off. SA could be next in the American Hitlist. Please do visit: and read "confessions of an Ecnomic Hitman" by John Perkins, Our Childrens future is at stake so Open Your Eyes and let us stand together against Western Oppression. Lawyer for Human Rights, Justice, Peace...

      Liberty - 2011-09-18 18:41

      look the west couldn't care less about Qadaffis plans for a United States of Africa, an single African currency and the like. It's nothing but a joke to the rest of the world anyway. And they are not scared of Qadaffi. The west haven't forgotten the lockerby bombings and Qadaffi's hand in it. The rebel uprising presented a good opportunity for the west to give some payback. The piece of crap got what he deserved, and soon he will start his journey to hell.

      slg - 2011-09-19 05:36

      Apartheid would not be over were it not for the so-called Western powers and so-called White South Africans. You have a very slanted and incomplete view of the world.

  • Timothee Bisimwa - 2011-09-17 16:14

    All of you who have commented on and against the lybian government under Gadhafi, are you Africans or emperialists? Are you educated or ignorents. I feel like you are more of engineering professionals rather than human science ones. Do you know of any nation in Africa whose living standard equated with lybia? In libia people had lived a happy economic life. It is too different from other countries in Africa. Your own concern is that Kadhafi was a dictator who stayed toolong on power.Is that a problem? For how long is Elisabeth a queen in England? I don't care how long a leader stays in power if his people are not starving in poverty as it is in many other African countries, including SA. In Lybia a small corrupted minority of Libia sponsored (by western superpowers) that has topled Kadhafi is but the triumph of darkness against light (socially speaking). Lybian people whose freedom of choice has been violated are just vulnerable, having lost tens of thousands of souls.

      Anton - 2011-09-18 13:28

      This is a lovely story, the only problem is, that the majority of Libyans would not agree with you. But, that's probably a small irritation for you!!!

      Ryan - 2011-09-18 13:37

      Gaddafi was the ruler of Libya and took power by a coup. the government (Prime Minister and parliament), not the Queen, rules England. and in case youre unsure, the government in England gets elected.

      Ryan - 2011-09-18 13:41

      so Timothee, I assume you are black .. so by your logic, if the Apartheid government gave you what you think Gaddafi gave the Libyans economically, then you'd have been happy to continue living under the Apartheid government with no freedom and equality ?

  • Ryan - 2011-09-18 13:26

    Will all those people that support Gaddafi (and other dictators) and who believe that Libyans were better off without freedom, please give this comment the thumbs up

      Ryan - 2011-09-18 13:28

      oh, and leave a comment so we can see who you are. (it will probably be many of the usual suspects).

  • Critereo - 2011-09-18 21:30

    BP and BAE systems will stop at nothing to do business and try to repair the UK's broken economy, with a failing GDP. I am utterly ashamed to be a westerner - Cameron and Sarkozy are born of cheap prostitutes and cannot be above the law. These war criminals, together with corrupt false media have gotten away with unrivalled attorcities. They want to enslave Libya so the IMF can act as loansharks. All the UK and Frances gold should be sold to compensate Libya for all the destruction caused by unlawful barbaric Nato bombing. Rott in hell Madd Dog Hitler Cameron, Sarkozy, runt child Obama!

      slg - 2011-09-19 05:38

      You're a twisted person with twisted views at the moment. Weakness does not have much impact on world events.

      MobBim - 2011-09-19 10:29

      If someone is not agree with you does not make him\her irrational the people with dictator shipment get angry when someone is not agreeing with them please dude let your upstairs grow if you are working for western agent(nato) do your properly because we understand the world is controlled by greed of money people are slaugterd every day for tne love of money... Qaddafi is defeated but the fight still goes on.. I have bad feeling many people will commit suicide to break the inner silent... I do respect the Muslim people because they don't giveup they fight until they die...

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